[Adamo1618]

Ah, I see. However, Marcus Gideon is correct.

[Jack_Spade]

Just a minor correction: Smartguns give you always +2 Acc, the DP bonus is dependent on if its connected to an implanted smartlink or only an exterior version.

[Marcus Gideon]

Just a minor correction: Smartguns give you always +2 Acc, the DP bonus is dependent on if its connected to an implanted smartlink or only an exterior version.

*ninja edit*

Right, +2... that's what I said. =)

[gradivus]

the smartgun system increases the gun’s Accuracy by 2
Provided you use an image link or wireless connection

You have to have an image link or wireless turned on for this?  Isn't that what the smartlink eyeware is for?

The smartlink processes the info from the smartgun sytem... the dni lets yur brain see tat information...or lacking dni, you use an image link. That all it does is process the information begs the question why it has to be eyewear?

[Marcus Gideon]

I've seen GMs house rule that you can buy the Smartlink add-on, and install it as software on your Commlink or Deck. Then use the auto Image Link that DNI gives you, to get the imagery beamed straight into your melon.

[Strange]

the smartgun system increases the gun’s Accuracy by 2
Provided you use an image link or wireless connection

You have to have an image link or wireless turned on for this?  Isn't that what the smartlink eyeware is for?

The smartlink processes the info from the smartgun sytem... the dni lets yur brain see tat information...or lacking dni, you use an image link. That all it does is process the information begs the question why it has to be eyewear?

But you don't need wireless for the +2 accuracy, right?  Also, if it is allowed to be used with an image link instead of smartlink, why do they have the smartlink option on the eyeware?  Wouldn't everyone just choose the $25 image link over the $2,000 (and not to mention availabilty 4R) smartlink?  Does it say somewhere that you CAN use the image link in lieu of smartlink?

[Novocrane]

I think there are some wires being crossed with 4th edition. Previously, you needed an imagelink and smartlink in the same device in order to get the smartlink bonus.

[Medicineman]

>> But you don't need wireless for the +2 accuracy, right?

right

 >>Does it say somewhere that you CAN use the image link in lieu of smartlink?


nope, nowhere

 HougH!
Medicineman

[gradivus]

The problem is the terminology smartlink (and the fact that is eyeware) sounds like it a specialized image link just for the smartgun system.

In actuality it seems to be more like a co-processor...

For me..in addition to vision items(glasses etc) and cybereyes, if you have DNI, it should go into any cyberware that has capacity.

If you can put your deck in your cybertorso, why not the smartlink?

[Marcus Gideon]

When you pay for the Smart link, what you're getting is the software that processes data from the gun, calculates trajectories, and creates a combat heads up display. Your typical Image Link doesn't handle all that extra processing, it just does basic Matrix imagery.

So you have to use Eyeware capable of Image Link, since that covers the ability to generate graphics. But you still need the specific software to handle the combat side of things. That's why you can't replace one with the other.

Simply having a graphics card driver does not replace the need to buy and install Call of Duty separately.

[CitizenJoe]

Earlier editions described the smartgun system as follows:

1. You've got the gun, modified to be smart.  This includes a small camera and the various activators needed for the gun to operate from the smartlink.

2. There is a connector to the smartlink.  This was an induction pad in the hand, a cable to a datajack, cable to smart goggles, or in 4th ed and later, a wireless connection.

3.  There is an image display, either in the eye or eyewear.

4. There's a partial simrig that tells the system what the user's position is.

5. There's a ballistics computer.

When you are adjudicating, figure out if all those bases are covered.

[Rooks]

ok so for drones or vehicles you would need a visual device that had smart link installed then smartlink installed in the gun then smartlink installed as a sensor in the vehicle/drone? cause run and gun packages treat the smartlink as a sensor but then theres the smartsoft from rigger 5 that lets you use smartlink on any drone without it using it as a sensor?

[Herr Brackhaus]

As of Rigger 5, a drone would only need the smartgun system on a weapon, and the smartsoft program. Later publications take precedence over older.

This is the same smartlink provided in eyeware or video enhancements, integrated into the sensors of a vehicle or drone.

No need for visual devices; the smartlink is integrated into the sensors and the smartsoft "is considered a Rating 3 Autosoft that allows the full use of smart weapons".

[Marcus Gideon]

Which, if that's the case... I think lends credence to loading the Smartlink software into your Comm or Deck and getting the imagery piped straight to your noggin with DNI. That would save people from having to buy Eyeware, or get implants, if they already use Trodes or a Datajack anyway. Stick with the same rules, if you're using Trodes you only get +1, but a Datajack gets +2.

[Herr Brackhaus]

Except a commlink can't run autosofts without a program carrier, and even then it wouldn't be "integrated into the sensors" of your character. Don't forget, a sensor array starts at a minimum of 2000 nuyen, but is included with all drones and vehicles for less due to mass production.

Can it be house ruled? Sure, but why would you want to? The mechanics already exist for how metahuman characters interact with smart weapons, and you need a smart weapon and a smartlink, either in a visual device or installed as cyberware. Seems like a no-brainer to me, what with the everything has a price theme of this edition.

No such thing as a free lunch; if I could run the software off my link and not have to buy expensive gear, why would I choose any other option?