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baronspam

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« Reply #30 on: <08-26-11/1056:26> »
When an adept initiates normally two things happen, his potential magic score increases by one, and you get to choose a metamagic.  You still have to spend the karma to raise your magic score to get the power point.

There is an optional rule that says instead of a metamagic you can have an extra power point.  Consult your GM about the this, but if allowed you can get potentially two power points per initiation that way, one from the initiation, one from spending the karma to increase  your magic stat.

BTW, the somewhat striking term "pornomancer" refers to a character build, usually an elf, with stupid high social skill dice pools.  Usually in the 20s.  I think the term arises from the fact that with that many dice in con you ever really have to put your pants back on if you don't want to.

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« Reply #31 on: <08-26-11/1246:07> »
While idly browsing the net, I'm pretty sure I've found Pornomancer builds with 50 odd dice. As starting characters too I think.

Oh, and I never said the spy idea was original - although having little grounding in the history/metastory of the game, I have bugger all idea what Critias is on about. In my case, the initial idea came from reading too much John le Carre. The elf just makes sense for better attributes.

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« Reply #32 on: <08-26-11/1333:54> »
Hmm...

Elf, Charisma 8 + Exc Attribute Charisma 1 + Genetic Optimization Charisma 1 + Con (Specialization) 6 (8 ) + Aptitude (Con) 1 + Kinesics 3 + Improved Ability 3 (Con) 3 + Tailored Pheromones 3 + First Impression 2 = Con Dice Pool of 30 at the cost of 4 Magic and 1 Essence (Magic's reduced to 3by Essence Loss).

30 BP + 65 BP + 20 BP + 9 BP (45,000¥/0.2 Essence) + 26 BP + 10 BP + 30 BP (1.5 Magic + .75 Magic) + 9 BP (45,000¥/0.6 Essence) + 5 BP = 205 BP/2.25 magic used of 3 Magic Attribute/5.8 Essence

Can get it pretty high, but I don't see how you can get it up to 50.

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« Reply #33 on: <08-26-11/1335:08> »
Just for giggles, lets see what we can get.  Whats the maximum dice pool for a pornomancer to pick someone up in a bar?  I am going to be cynical and assume this is a Con check.

Elf with hardcap charisma with SURGE charisma (9), adept with kinestetics (3), con 6, with Adept Improved ability  to bring that to (9),Specialization (pick up slitches in beer joint +2) bioware Tailored Pheromones (3), running Emotion Software (6) through comlink and glasses, first impression quality (2) =34 dice. 

I am sure there is some more you can pile on.  That was off the top of my head without looking at the rules. 

The life of a pornomancer is never dull.

Edit: ninja'ed by Fastjack.
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« Reply #34 on: <08-26-11/1337:40> »
Huh... forgot SURGE and EmoSofts. With those, add another 7 to mine for 37 dice.

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« Reply #35 on: <08-26-11/1342:24> »
Actually, the Metagenetic Qualities would top my PC over the 35BP max for Qualities. So, they wouldn't count for a starting character. Now, buying the Metagenitic Improvement (Charisma) and Glamour qualities with Karma later on, would give an extra 4 dice on top of the 36 from Character generation.

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« Reply #36 on: <08-26-11/1344:49> »
Huh... forgot SURGE and EmoSofts. With those, add another 7 to mine for 37 dice.

Wow.  with 37 dice you can buy 9 hits.  I won't add any narrative details to what that would mean, but good lord, it would be quite a life.

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« Reply #37 on: <08-26-11/1345:28> »
Huh... forgot SURGE and EmoSofts. With those, add another 7 to mine for 37 dice.
Minor Bio-Sculpting adds +1 Die
 Patron Dragon adds +2 Die
thats 40 Dice

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« Reply #38 on: <08-26-11/1346:01> »
Huh... forgot SURGE and EmoSofts. With those, add another 7 to mine for 37 dice.

Wow.  with 37 dice you can buy 9 hits.  I won't add any narrative details to what that would mean, but good lord, it would be quite a life.

Just call him Bueller, Ferris Bueller.

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« Reply #39 on: <08-26-11/1356:30> »
Elf Technomancer (8) with exc attrib cha (1) and emotisoft complex form 6 that's threaded to 12 and assisted by a rating 6 sprite gets (18), add the r6 emotitoy that's being diagnosed by a machine sprite for another (9), con (6).
8+1+18+9+6 is 42, and I'd have to crack a book to go past that.

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« Reply #40 on: <08-26-11/1357:27> »
Wow.... just wow.....

Isn't 4 supposed to be hard? Anything beyond that is just added fluff to most skill checks? o.O with about 9 automatically I think he could make almost anyone fall in love with him.

A Great Dragon shows up.

>.> no he doesn't have to kill him, after all he's a lover not a fighter. (rolls 40 dice against seducing dragon)

I would probably "Die" if i saw that in a game. No Pun intended.

Oh and you guys have forgotten on critical thing.... he could have 6 or 7 edge on top of that. <.<
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« Reply #41 on: <08-26-11/1404:21> »
All of this is the type of thing that has to be kept in line by a good GM.  Con isn't mind control.  There are times when it doesn't work, no matter what you role.  Some of those dice are also situational, like First Impression and a specialization, and you need a GM will let you use Emotisofts.  But even under the worse conditions you should be able to get a pool in the high twenties, which by any standard other than pornomancer numbers is just crazy stupid high. 

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« Reply #42 on: <08-26-11/1423:32> »
In fairness it's the sort of thing that makes people think of dice caps. I think caps are a mencken solution (simple, obvious, and wrong) but it doesn't stop the underlying reason people think of them.

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« Reply #43 on: <08-26-11/1544:19> »
Use a Dryad instead of a Elf; another few dice for glamour. Throw in Home Ground. There's a Mentor Spirit that helps here too. I might be wrong about the starting character and 50, but the ensuing search shows the power of Porno Elf.

Feck it, I'm gonna go look it up.

edit: Found it, apparently originally posted on dumpshock

Dryad with 8 Charisma and 6 Magic. Relevant Qualities: Adept, Addiction: eX, Mild, Fame (Global), First Impression. Get Con at 6 and specialize in Seduction. For adept powers, get Kinesics: 5 and Improved Ability/Con: 3. For bioware, get Tailored Pheromes: 3, Enhanced Pherome Receptors: 3, Vocal Range Enhancer, and minor Biosculpting.

That's 8 (Charisma) + 6 (Con) + 2 (specialization) +3 (Glamour) +6 (Global Fame) +2 (First Impression) +5 (Kinesics) + 3 (Improved Ability) +3 (Tailored Pheromes) +2 (Enhanced Pherome Receptors) +1 (Vocal Range Enhancer) +2 (Minor Biosculpting) +6 (Empathy Software) +1 (symbiosis gives bonus to social skills vs. inhabitants of her neighborhood) +1 (effects of eX) = 51 dice. :eek:

... yeah.
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« Reply #44 on: <08-26-11/1625:37> »
Use a Dryad instead of a Elf; another few dice for glamour. Throw in Home Ground. There's a Mentor Spirit that helps here too. I might be wrong about the starting character and 50, but the ensuing search shows the power of Porno Elf.

Feck it, I'm gonna go look it up.

edit: Found it, apparently originally posted on dumpshock

Dryad with 8 Charisma and 6 Magic. Relevant Qualities: Adept, Addiction: eX, Mild, Fame (Global), First Impression. Get Con at 6 and specialize in Seduction. For adept powers, get Kinesics: 5 and Improved Ability/Con: 3. For bioware, get Tailored Pheromes: 3, Enhanced Pherome Receptors: 3, Vocal Range Enhancer, and minor Biosculpting.

That's 8 (Charisma) + 6 (Con) + 2 (specialization) +3 (Glamour) +6 (Global Fame) +2 (First Impression) +5 (Kinesics) + 3 (Improved Ability) +3 (Tailored Pheromes) +2 (Enhanced Pherome Receptors) +1 (Vocal Range Enhancer) +2 (Minor Biosculpting) +6 (Empathy Software) +1 (symbiosis gives bonus to social skills vs. inhabitants of her neighborhood) +1 (effects of eX) = 51 dice. :eek:

... yeah.

If I was wearing a hat I would take it off to you, sir.  50 freaking dice.  I do think being a global celebrity is, at least in spirit, cheating a bit, but I am impressed.

Edit: is Kinesics 5 kosher?  I had in my head it maxed at 3, but I could be wrong.
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