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« Reply #30 on: <04-02-14/0618:46> »
Cram + psyche are good for mage too. And with high logic, you can easily beat the addiction test.

Until you don't.   There is a non-zero chance of failure, which means failure is statistically inevitable.
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« Reply #31 on: <04-02-14/1601:12> »
Psyche isn't a problem, really. It's got a Rating of 6, so 5 weeks time. At Threshold 2, you'd have to use it in week 1, 3 AND 5 to risk addiction. How often is that going to happen? Cram has a rating of 4 so 7 weeks, but a threshold of 3 so we're talking week 1/4/7 to face a test. But let's say you use a lot but game the system enough so you only face a threshold of 1. As Psychological, you likely have 11 dice, that's 2048/177147 odds, ~1/86. So once every two~three runs you'd take a test at those odds, which means you have an average of 200 runs or so under your belt when you fail it once.
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« Reply #32 on: <04-03-14/0019:37> »
Psyche isn't a problem, really. It's got a Rating of 6, so 5 weeks time. At Threshold 2, you'd have to use it in week 1, 3 AND 5 to risk addiction. How often is that going to happen? Cram has a rating of 4 so 7 weeks, but a threshold of 3 so we're talking week 1/4/7 to face a test. But let's say you use a lot but game the system enough so you only face a threshold of 1. As Psychological, you likely have 11 dice, that's 2048/177147 odds, ~1/86. So once every two~three runs you'd take a test at those odds, which means you have an average of 200 runs or so under your belt when you fail it once.

Or, blow your first roll and be on the way to addiction in week 1. :D



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« Reply #33 on: <04-03-14/0026:29> »
Yeah, but with that luck you'd probably just have gotten mangled in your first run and lost both your arms to critical glitches on the recovery test, so it's whatever.
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« Reply #34 on: <04-03-14/0030:16> »
Hey, with the hundreds of rolls a player has to make during the course of a single run, odds say, that even "sure things" are going to end in outright failure eventually, yet we still come back to the table for more dice abuse the next week :P  (or for me, the next day!)
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« Reply #35 on: <04-03-14/0349:13> »
Psyche isn't a problem, really. It's got a Rating of 6, so 5 weeks time. At Threshold 2, you'd have to use it in week 1, 3 AND 5 to risk addiction. How often is that going to happen? Cram has a rating of 4 so 7 weeks, but a threshold of 3 so we're talking week 1/4/7 to face a test. But let's say you use a lot but game the system enough so you only face a threshold of 1. As Psychological, you likely have 11 dice, that's 2048/177147 odds, ~1/86. So once every two~three runs you'd take a test at those odds, which means you have an average of 200 runs or so under your belt when you fail it once.

Or, blow your first roll and be on the way to addiction in week 1. :D
That's not possible, since you ONLY roll at the end of week 5 (Psyche) or 7 (Cram), so it'd take you at least 3 runs (or less if you got a run spanning 3+ weeks) before that happens.
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« Reply #36 on: <04-03-14/0449:42> »
Hey, with the hundreds of rolls a player has to make during the course of a single run, odds say, that even "sure things" are going to end in outright failure eventually, yet we still come back to the table for more dice abuse the next week
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« Reply #37 on: <04-03-14/1006:22> »
There is always the option of using Edge to re-roll that 1/86 chance of failure. I wouldn't worry about it too much personally.

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« Reply #38 on: <04-03-14/1103:03> »
I wouldn't allow a player to Edge their way out of an Addiction test.
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« Reply #39 on: <04-03-14/1531:34> »
I wouldn't allow a player to Edge their way out of an Addiction test.

Neither would I.
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« Reply #40 on: <04-03-14/1559:08> »
Now lie in it, to die in it's the crime. Speaking of crimes: What DOES your avatar read?
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« Reply #41 on: <04-03-14/1616:33> »
Now lie in it, to die in it's the crime. Speaking of crimes: What DOES your avatar read?

It's a picture (apparently) of my daughter's new puppy.... (which means... MY new dog in 3 years :-[ )

The caption reads: "Don't make me get up.. I might fall over!"
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« Reply #42 on: <04-03-14/1623:45> »
Be glad it ain't a cute little Tibetan Mastiff pup, because those turn into this:

http://imgur.com/4K61Z1S
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« Reply #43 on: <04-03-14/1627:29> »
I could live with that :P

I'm a dog lover, and they seem to love me back (judging by how many just wonder up to me)

But my lifestyle is not good for pets.
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« Reply #44 on: <04-03-14/1822:37> »
Be glad it ain't a cute little Tibetan Mastiff pup, because those turn into this:

http://imgur.com/4K61Z1S
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