Shadowrun Reboot

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« on: <07-05-23/0219:05> »
If you could reboot shadowrun what changes would you make to the system and lore ?
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« Reply #1 on: <07-05-23/0515:45> »
I am a tinkerer. I always fiddle with rules endlessly. Bearing that in mind, some of what I suggest might be considered heresy, so take it with a pinch of salt.

1. TN4+ instead of 5+. Buying hits will be replaced with "take half". Suddenly, dice pools don't need to be so large and you don't need to scrounge for every modifier you can get. You can also afford to broaden your skills at chargen.

2. A firm dice pool cap of 20 dice (with an optional rule to break the cap for those who want it). Situational mods cap out at +/-5, and mostly are in the range of +/-3. Only give one high-level mod rather than lots of itty bitty fiddly ones. Combined augmentations (magical, cybernetic, pharmaceutical, etc) still cap out at +4, which stacks with the situational mods limit.

3. Standard thresholds should be 1-5 and no higher. Thresholds started at 1/2/3/4 in SR4, becoming 1/2/3/5 in SR4A, and then by SR5, the upper end was "8+". It's no wonder dice pools spiral so quickly in this game.

4. Staged Karma costs. Buying attribute ratings 2-4 would cost 10 Karma or one attribute point each. Buying them at 5-6 would cost 20 Karma/two attribute points each. At 7-9, it's 30 Karma/three attribute points. This makes creation/advancement so much easier to balance! Alternatively, use flat Karma costs (based on SR4A Build Point costs) with a single bump up to max out an attribute or skill.

5. Reduce the attributes to two physical, two mental, and two social, as follows: Strength, Agility, Cunning, Logic, Charisma, Willpower. Strength and Body would be combined into Strength, and Reaction and Intuition into Cunning. Make Athletics and Close Combat key off Strength. Use SR6 skills, or perhaps the Anarchy ones with a couple of tweaks.

6. Merge Magic and Resonance into Essence (and maybe Edge too). Essence comes in multiple flavours, and your rating (6) can be divided among them with certain caveats (e.g., you can't take both Magic and Resonance). The flavours might be: Magic or Resonance, Chrome, Edge. So you may have Magic 4 and Chrome 2, letting you take up to two points' worth of cyber, plus up to 8 spells or 4 Power Points. If you divide your Essence among multiple areas, you have less "capacity" for your main thing. Your Essence doesn't go down, it just gets shifted around, so you always have a maximum of six points between any of the flavours. If you gain more augmentations, your Chrome goes up and your Magic or Resonance may have to drop to accommodate this. Some points can't be shifted -- you need to remove 'ware to reduce Chrome (but you can use transhumanism to increase the amount of 'ware you can squeeze in per Chrome point). Initiation and submersion just add bonus dice and increase the number of spells and CFs you can learn, instead of raising your Magic or Resonance limit (but they might permit you to rearrange some Essence points if it makes sense).

7. Following on from that: cyborgs get transhumanism like in the 6e Companion. I'm calling it Metanoia, because it has multiple meanings that are apt here: The equivalent to metamagics would be adaptations. Cybersams deserve nice things too!

8. I think I'd make chargen simpler. Everyone gets the equivalent of around Priority D in all areas of their character as a baseline. You then get either one major advantage (roughly equivalent to an A or 200 karma) and one minor advantage (equivalent to a B or 100 karma), or three minor advantages. You can take no more than one minor disadvantage (equivalent to dropping something to an E) to take an extra minor advantage or to swap one of your minors for a major.

A major advantage would be a premium cyberdeck with programs, Magic or Resonance with free spells/CFs/etc, or a suite of top grade augmentations with relevant mods. A minor advantage might be a pair of cyberarms with razors, a bunch of extra points in attributes and/or skills, or a DIY deck/modded commlink with some minimal hacking abilities but no flexibility. A face could be made with three minors (+x attributes, +y skills, +z contacts) or a major and a minor (adept + minor social = social adept or major money + minor social = socialite face, etc). Optional rules would allow you to go totally freeform or to customise your choices further.

9. No more tracking ammo and the like in play. This would all be a factor of lifestyle costs and consumables rolls. Ammo might run out on a critical glitch but otherwise, don't worry about it during a run. At downtime, have people make a consumables roll, with any 1s meaning they incur extra costs due to unexpected repairs/delays/shortages/etc (maybe +5 or 10% of your monthly lifestyle cost per 1 rolled). Used gear ups the number of dice rolled, as would living beyond your means (e.g., living on the street but toting around SOTA gadgets). Free League has supply rolls which are a good model for this.

10. I might even use an abstract resources system altogether.

11. Put the Missions downtime actions economy into the core rules, and streamline it a bit. Allow enchanters and DIY deckers/riggers to make cool stuff for their next run. Working for the Man/Working for the People should be standard.

12. By default, gear should come in PACKs with each PACK itemised to allow customisation. People can then disassemble a PACK and swap bits out for other bits, if they really want to, but everyone can use something "off the rack". When someone buys an item, it should come with all the essential bits needed to make it functional, rather than requiring players to take an advanced course in fictional future tech and its interactions so they can actually use their commlink as intended.

13. No more aspected mages, per se. An aspected mage is any magician who hasn't mastered multiple aspects of magic. Players who want to play one can just buy Incompetent in two of their magical skills, can take a geas limiting their practice, or can just not invest in those skills. This makes trying to balance aspected mages much easier to do. I'd probably also keep mages as a A and B priority, with no other options available.

14. Mystic adepts are adepts who purchase each of the magical skills with Power Points. Mages might be able to gain a power point as a form of metamagic, but I'm undecided. I'm considering limiting this option to initiates in either case, which effectively bars mystic adepts out the gate, but I think giving GMs the option to allow initiation at chargen makes starting mysads much rarer, as in the fluff, without entirely removing them.

15. You can build your own decks from the start. Have this in the core rules. A DIY deck might just be a few commlinks spliced together with some other junk, or a cannibalised terminal with illegal software, but it is possible. You can't swap the array on DIY decks, but they're a suitable interim option for starting deckers. In time, you might even build something incredible.

None of this is playtested, and it's mostly off the top of my head, so caveat emptor!


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« Reply #2 on: <07-05-23/0517:07> »
I forgot to mention:

16. All metatypes would have zero cost. Find a way to balance them against each other in terms of packages of starting traits (I think it was Russell Zimmerman who posted a way to do that on here, which would work as the basis for doing so).


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« Reply #3 on: <07-05-23/0740:27> »
I would try to treat adept powers, spells, complex forms and more powerful augmentations all the same: Increase a special attribute to define how many "abilities" you can have and buy those abilities for Karma.
That way Essence would be like Magic or Resonance. Expensive gear is bought with Karma.

The consequence must be to classify gear in "Paid with money" and "paid with Karma" - but as I said: "Paid with Karma" gear would not be considered gear anymore.

Lorewise I would change it in a way that there are minor augmentations that are normal to everyone, like some kind of implanted AR viewing - even for awakened or emerged characters.

I would introduce "Quickhacks" some kind of mundane decker equivalent of spells and complex forms, short-ranged against near-range devices. I loved how Cyberpunk 2077 gave you options to disable cameras, hack the vision or hearing of opponents for a few turns. Stuff that makes it interesting for a decker to accompany the team into a building.

In addition, I would toy with the idea to treat ammunition, drain and fading (and a to be named resource for quickhacks) with the same rule mechanism: a resource that gets reduced by usage and can be replenished with an action - eventually modified by qualities.

For combat I am not sure. My goal would be to eliminate either the defense or soak roll - I tend to not have soaking anymore, but re-introduce armor as being something that directly reduces hits.


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« Reply #4 on: <07-05-23/0749:33> »
By reboot, do you mean a whole setting reboot or just a mechanical reset like a new edition or alt edition?

If I were to boot ahead to a new/alt edition, I would make the massive lore dump that GMs and players face go away somehow.  The easiest way to do that is (sadly) to crash the Matrix again, and take history with it.  No one knows what's true any more except core events that everyone knows about.  Those that were there and those who can find proof of it are secret keepers now.  Lore becomes a commodity.  The GMs and Players can start off with only what they need to know, and then the discovery is optional after that.  Entire runs can be devised around just finding out the truth of the past (ie delving into a past module or sourcebook). Corporate propaganda runs wild as the govies and corpos try to reinvent themselves as benevolent forces.  You'd maybe need a 20 year nudge forward to make it make better sense, and assume that the newest crop of runners were in the history-deficient category.  I was thinking just kick it to 2100. 

That also lets you do a few things like re-baseline cyber and bioware so there aren't 6 editions of clunk to drag along with it.  Let old concepts die off in favor of something simpler for new players to grab and go with.

Lastly, you could also address some of the "magicrun" complaints by nerfing astral space with a big global astral spirit war or something that makes astral space warped, making it more interesting, dangerous and less certain.  Leaving active spells running may attract wandering hostile spirits that try to feed on the mana, so maybe don't do that.  That sort of thing. 

Mechanically, I just want something basic that has no extraneous meta systems like Edge/AR/DR or Limits.  Those more than anything have kept me out of playing SR.  A simple but expandable core set of rules.  Make it easier for new players  and GMs to grab and run with at a basic entry level, but follow that up with the "advanced rules" book that expands into all the edge cases you care to dream up. 

I have friends that really want to play SR again.  As I'm the one that would have to teach and run it, I would like to  minimize teaching and managing the system, and just have some fun again.  I see so many people wanting to get into SR, but are usually met with "yeah, but the rules are not great".  I don't need it totally simplistic and overly abstracted, but simpler than today would be nice.  Strip out the Edge Pool and AR/DR from SR6 and I think that the basics are pretty good.  You would need to bring back dice pool mods, but if those are also simplified so not every little thing has a unique modifier, its something familiar enough to manage easily.  Conditions are a good idea, but I'd streamline those too.  Caps on enhancements and total dice pools for players (ie, no more than 20 dice ever) keep things dialed down.

And no, Anarchy isn't for me either, as it turns out I'm not much into the narrative game style. 


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« Reply #5 on: <08-23-23/0317:20> »
If you wanted to streamline conditions, I'd probably go with freeform conditions instead. They have a rating (1-5?) which determines the dice pool bonus or penalty they inflict.

So, if you get Dazed 5, you know you've got -5 dice on relevant actions because you're dazed. The other good thing is that when someone tries to avoid/cause a Condition, the net hits can determine the Condition's rating. If you score 5 net hits trying to set them on fire, they get Ablaze 5. If you only scored 3, you'd get Ablaze 3 instead. Averting Conditions would reduce the rating with every hit instead. Conditions would last until you resolve them.

For things that cause damage, you could maybe split hits between damage and duration. So, for 2 hits, you could do 1P for two turns or 2P for 1 turn. That way, you don't end up with everyone burning alive because they can't get rid of their Ablaze 5 condition.