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[6e] Skill Expertise Prereq

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ammulder:
To get a skill expertise, it says you need a specialization and "your related skill rank needs to be at least 5."

Is that 5 with or without the Specialization bonus?  That is, is the minimum for expertise a general skill rank of 3 (specialization rank 5), or a general skill rank of 5 (specialization rank 7)?

Stainless Steel Devil Rat:
It's got to be 5 without the specialization.

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