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Title: Shameless Fan Theories
Post by: 0B on <12-09-19/1925:29>
(Hey now... I gotta put this somewhere!)

The real reason Perianwyr and Kyle Morgan got kicked out and put on a kill list by the Azzies wasnít because of Bull and Johnny 99′s antics (Or the PCs, if you played the modules with your group), but because Perianwyr was feeding information about the Azzies to Dunklezhan.

The timeline matches up. Working backwards from the start of ďStranger Souls,Ē we know that at the time of the big Dís death in 2057, Ryan Mercury was the primary source/spy for him in Aztlan, regarding the Azziesí attempts to summon the horrors. Based on text in Stranger Souls, this is a new mission for Ryan- Nadja flashbacks about saying goodbye to him before he left, and notes that she doesnít know anything about his current mission. Ryan was also told by the big D about Mr. Darke, meaning that he hadnít been assigned to a mission regarding the horrors until recently. Dunklezhan likely got the information about Mr. Darke from Harlequin, when the elf encountered him in 2055.

The last module where Kyle and Peri work for the Azzies is in A Killing Glare, in 2054. If they live at the end of the module, it states that the duo flee Seattle and Aztechnology since they failed the corp, and return to shadowrunning. Though itís true that Kyle Morgan is the number one assassin, thatís a pretty quick turn around. Itís unlikely that any individual would flee employment/death from a megacorp, and then not bother to lay low at least for a little bit. The only way you could get away with it would be if you had some other means of protection or backup, and even a dragon isnít going to be an impenetrable defense. A great dragon, on the other hand, could be.

So if Peri was feeding information to Dunklezhan about Aztechnology, this would have been cut off in 2054. Ryan Mercury began spying on them sometime between 2055 and 2057.

We know from Dunklezhanís will that Peri was a friend. The two possibilities here are that Perianwyr had been friends with Dunklezhan since before he left Aztechnology, or became friends shortly after. In the first scenario, he had been a spy all along- and itís possible that he and Kyle joined the Azzies for that purpose.

The other scenario might be more likely. After leaving the Azzies, they had to find some form of protection. Perianwyr and Kyle could give all their dirt on the Azzies to Dunklezhan. This allowed for the big D to send in Ryan to track down the locus (What the Azzies were using to summon the horrors), and in return they got protection. Kyle Morgan wasnít killed until a few years before 2063, well after the big Dís death. Iíd wager this was before December 2061.

In December of 2061, Ghostwalker made his return. Peri was living in Denver at the time, and did end up working for him in exchange for protection (And also because Ghostwalker was much bigger than him...) Iíd wager that the Azzies waited things out to see if the big D was actually dead, and then started going down the list of people who defected from them to Dunklezhan. And if they got to the number one assassin, needless to say that it would only be a matter of time before Peri was taken out.

Furthermore, for Aztechnology to still care about killing them after all that time implies that what they did was worse than a couple of botched missions. Killing someone for failure is all well and good on the principal of things, but it's not something you care about after six years. I think it must have occurred before 2061, since I'm not sure how much Perianwyr would want Ghostwalker's protection if his partner was killed under his watch.

To summarize, canon is:

Semi-canon (Most likely results of modules):

Reasonable Inferences (Possibly not true/not substantial):

If you think this theory is out there, then you probably donít want to hear my theories on who Perianwyrís sire is, why the Outcast must still be alive, why Eliohann is the youngest/last student of Earthroot, and who Kyle Morganís real killer is (It absolutely is not Blackwing).Mostly because I can't back up these theories quite as well...

If you spot holes, poke at them! Most of this can be seen as circumstantial- it pretty much all rests on a convenient timeline and one entry in Dunklezhan's will.
Title: Re: Shameless Fan Theories
Post by: Crimsondude on <12-14-19/0216:22>
why Eliohann is the youngest/last student of Earthroot

So where does Peri fit in relation to Celedyr?
Title: Re: Shameless Fan Theories
Post by: 0B on <12-14-19/0913:18>
why Eliohann is the youngest/last student of Earthroot

So where does Peri fit in relation to Celedyr?

I'm not sure that he does. The only great dragon he's said to interact with is Rhonabwy, who's also a music-lover. (That stuff at the end was mostly to show that the fan theories I have are kind of ridiculous...)
Title: Re: Shameless Fan Theories
Post by: Mirikon on <01-08-20/1359:49>
Actually, the Outcast could very well be alive. The nominal head of the Illuminati-esque group you see in the books (forget the name right now) is called the Penultimate Master. That implies an Ultimate Master. The Outcast has a history of building human dynasties to serve him. And it would explain both where they get their knowledge from, and why they are so anti-dragon.
Title: Re: Shameless Fan Theories
Post by: Crimsondude on <01-08-20/1550:09>
But it seems so on-the-nose as to be obvious. Besides, Black Lodge has only really been explicitly anti-elf. And they're only anti-elf because they know about the immortal elves and how they formed the Tirs and so they see them as competition (enough to apparently even recruit a Danaan family member as a spy until his cover was blown in Dark Terrors).
Title: Re: Shameless Fan Theories
Post by: Mirikon on <02-02-20/0045:36>
They are most noticeably anti-elf. However, they're definitely no friends to the dragons, either. The Black Lodge did, after all, attempt to kill Lofwyr during his fight with Alamais. It is simply easier to strike at elves than dragons as a general rule. They likely wouldn't have even tried if Lofwyr hadn't been in the middle of death match with an equally powerful great dragon.