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Bounties fot bounty hunters?

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« on: <12-04-15/0305:08> »
What are reasonable bounties on vampires, toxic/blood/insect shamans, ghouls, mundane murderers etc?  Is there any official information anywhere?

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« Reply #1 on: <12-04-15/0318:50> »
That is actually an interesting question - I also looked for this kind of information recently. Also, which organisations are actually offering those bounty (Draco Foundation, ...)

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« Reply #2 on: <12-04-15/0457:27> »
Its mostly governments that offer the bounties. Simply because a Corp's laws and regulations end at their marked property line.
Thus, offering a bounty for something that is NOT on their property is a big No-No....


That would be like police going into another country unannouced to catch a criminal. It just doesn't happen without that countries permission - the officers could be breaking all sorts of domestic laws...

(Weapon offenses if they are armed. Forcible confinement, kiddnapping, endangerment to the public, assault.... the list goes on..)
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« Reply #3 on: <12-04-15/0500:52> »
What are reasonable bounties on vampires, toxic/blood/insect shamans, ghouls, mundane murderers etc?  Is there any official information anywhere?
Yes there Is for MMVV and Paracritter
IIRC in The SR4A  Paracritter Book(forgot the US Titel its "Wildwechsel"  in German)
Ghouls sell for 1000 resp. 1500 Ľ in the CAS and UCAS, Vampires ....2500 and Nosferatu 10.000 Ľ
(all IIRC ;) )

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« Reply #4 on: <12-04-15/0534:40> »
What are reasonable bounties on vampires, toxic/blood/insect shamans, ghouls, mundane murderers etc?  Is there any official information anywhere?
Yes there Is for MMVV and Paracritter
IIRC in The SR4A  Paracritter Book(forgot the US Titel its "Wildwechsel"  in German)
Ghouls sell for 1000 resp. 1500 Ľ in the CAS and UCAS, Vampires ....2500 and Nosferatu 10.000 Ľ
(all IIRC ;) )

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« Reply #5 on: <12-04-15/0730:19> »
I'm not sure if it is canon anywhere on corps offering bounties, but they certainly could offer them regardless of where the person is. Legally, they couldn't formally arrest off of their property. However, if that person just happened to end up in their Corp prison and the corp story is that "he just showed up on our property" well...

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« Reply #6 on: <12-04-15/0908:34> »
The issue with that are things like shifters.
The CAS offers/offered bounties on shifters while in the NAN they are treated like citizens (can apply for a SIN).

So you get into murky waters real fast and could end up having your Corp blackballed from the country in question and all your VIPs arrested!!


Look at what happened with Renraku Arcology.... the UCAS basically said "You fucked up big, endangered our citizens and WE had to moblize the military! Either pay us back plus damages or we are taking your multibillion building" Which they did..
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« Reply #7 on: <12-04-15/1220:01> »
Bounties on Infected (in nuyen)
CAS
Bandersnatchii 5,000
Banshees 5,000
Dzoo-noo-qua 3,000
Fomôraig 1,500
Ghouls 1,500
Goblins 4,000
Loup-garou 3,500
Nosferatu 15,000
Vampires 6,000
Wendigos 15,000
UCAS
Bandersnatchii 7,500
Banshees 5,000
Dzoo-noo-qua 2,500
Fomôraig 1,500
Ghouls 1,500
Goblins 4,000
Loup-garou 2,500
Nosferatu 15,000
Vampires 7,500
Wendigos 15,000
As per Running Wild, Page 64.

Blood Mages 10,000 Dead to 300,000 Alive
Insect Shamans 15,000 to 75,000 Average, Higher if Renegade from Organization (One is worth 500,000 due to him being a former CDC bio-warfare person who stole a bunch of lethal pathogens on the way out.)
Toxic Shamans 50,000 to 250,000 Average (One is worth 500,000; Artaxias the Toxic Shaman Lion Shapeshifter, only Saeder Krupp is offering that much for him)
Shadow Spirits 50,000 to 350,000 (Only if you can prove you destroyed them, not mere disruption.)
This is from Hazard Pay, Pages 25-37

Keep in mind all these canon bounties vary from place to place and by individual; sure, you can sell a bunch of no-name ghoul tongues for 1,500 a pop, but Dahmer the known radical ghoul rights activist could go for plenty more. 

Everyone offers bounties; Reaver's assertion that Corps don't is incorrect for sure (Hazard Pay has a number of them).  That said, those bounties are for proof of death or being brought in alive.  It isn't the Corporation's fault if some unaffiliated asshole might have snatched someone off of property that isn't theirs. 
And definitely no to getting all of your VIPs arrested.  All AA or AAA Corporations have extraterritoriality, which no Megacorporation can allow to be threatened.  You threaten that, you can destabilize their entire structure.  The Renraku Shutdown was a rather large anomaly caused by the second known AI going rogue and taking around 100,000 people hostage (and most of those were Renraku citizens, by the way).  The big problem was that it was shooting down aircraft nearby (since Renraku ARMED the building, which is such a wise idea). 
Would you want to go into a place where the resident had a drum-fed shotgun and can see in the dark?

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« Reply #8 on: <12-04-15/1804:50> »
There you go. I stand corrected.
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« Reply #9 on: <12-05-15/1404:19> »
And definitely no to getting all of your VIPs arrested.  All AA or AAA Corporations have extraterritoriality, which no Megacorporation can allow to be threatened.  You threaten that, you can destabilize their entire structure.  The Renraku Shutdown was a rather large anomaly caused by the second known AI going rogue and taking around 100,000 people hostage (and most of those were Renraku citizens, by the way).  The big problem was that it was shooting down aircraft nearby (since Renraku ARMED the building, which is such a wise idea).
Not really. Having the building be armed wasn't that big an issue, since the guns only targeted those who wen into Renraku airspace. The big problem, and the reason that no one yelled too much when the UCAS walked into the Corporate Council meeting to say they were in charge, was the THREE NUCLEAR REACTORS in the basement, which posed a rather major problem to Seattle as a whole.
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« Reply #10 on: <12-06-15/0104:19> »
How much for Devil Rats? I presume the bounty's gone down since their powers have been eratta'd.  :o

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« Reply #11 on: <12-06-15/0121:34> »
I'd assume something like 10 nuyen a tail, personally. If you kill 10 of them in 10 shots without getting mauled/diseased, that's 80 nuyen profit. 
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« Reply #12 on: <12-06-15/1426:32> »
Don't forget the Draco Foundation's standing bounty on living Blood and Toxic Mages at 1 million Nuyen per head as established by the Big D's will.

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« Reply #13 on: <12-06-15/2359:15> »
Don't forget the Draco Foundation's standing bounty on living Blood and Toxic Mages at 1 million Nuyen per head as established by the Big D's will.

Those have dropped in value.  I linked the modern bounty averages earlier.  I assume (it may be incorrect) the economy has changed, thus what they will pay has gone down. 

The most valuable blood mage (alive, if it matters), is 300,000 nuyen for a former employee of the DIMR who investigated magical threats like blood mages, insect shamans, etc.  He was basically a magical profiler who didn't come back sane from a job. 

The Four Horseman, Absolute Equilibrium and Final Judgement are all Toxic Mages worth 250,000 nuyen dead or alive, and Artaxias the Toxic Shaman Lion Shapeshifter is worth 500,000 nuyen alive from Saeder Krupp and less from others, but only on capture.
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« Reply #14 on: <12-07-15/0242:56> »
I'd take those toxic/blood mage prices in Hazard Pay as a bonus since their values vary so much (at least those from the DIMR).  Big D's will put a standing one million nuyen bounty on all toxic and blood mages in general, and if the DIMR won't pay out on those then it puts into doubt they'll pay out on anything else someone qualifies for from Big D's will.

For one there's Lewis Hartfield, a toxic troll dog shaman with Body, Strength, & Magic 10, and a 50,000Ľ bounty by MCT (dead) and the DIMR (alive).  Last sighting of this rabid dog was 2071, July 18 in Chicago.  For that much the bugs can have him.