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Shadowrun General => Gear => Topic started by: thalandar on <02-21-11/2039:02>
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This is a real request from a player for a "pistol":
You start with the Warhawk, then you fill up all six slots with Large Mod Firing Selection Change (to add Full Auto) and High Power Chambering from War (+2 DV, -1 AP). After that, you overmod it to give it a Custom Look, engraving the name 'Bessie' on the side of the barrel.
You now have an 8P, -3AP Revolver that can fire a Long Burst, emptying the cylinder in a single shot and jumping the damage to 13P before net hits. Of course, Hambone applies both his Foot Anchors (+2 recoil comp) and his Cyberarm Gyromount (+3) whenever he fires it, nicely negating the -5 recoil mod from full auto. It's a bitch to reload, but its worth it seeing the look on a ganger's face when you pull this massive mother of gun out of your cyber holster and splatter his chrome troll buddy all over the payment in a single shot.
I don't know if I should laugh or cry-I ask for people to flesh out their characters and this is what I get.
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I am proud of your player
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I'd say let them go for it, but if they use it more than a couple times have them start picking up levels of the Distinctive Style negative quality from Runner's Companion. This way, it discourages its use all the time, while leaving the option open for them to use it when it really counts.
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*laughs*
I like the premise, and it already has some serious drawbacks:
A) foot anchors take actions to get sorted
B) Arm Gyros are not subtle
C) Distinctive style is definitely going to apply
I'd also require the PC to get some serious Firearm/Armourer contacts to validate getting their hands on this prototype firearm that requires a facility to build....
Either that, or the Hunted quality for having stolen this weapon from whomever was building it.
Basically, this gun could not have been jury-rigged by some back-alley workshop. Someone has put serious Nuyen into making it, and they're going to want it back....
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Finally, this is going to be loud as all hell.
Not, "Wake the neighbors" loud, I'm talking, "WHAT THE FRAG WAS THAT" from a dozen blocks away, past heavy construction, loud.
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Finally, this is going to be loud as all hell.
Not, "Wake the neighbors" loud, I'm talking, "WHAT THE FRAG WAS THAT" from a dozen blocks away, past heavy construction, loud.
Maybe the gun's name should be changed from 'Bessie' to:
- Wailin' Winnie?
- Screamin' Susan?
- Howlin' Harriet?
I remember the Ruger Thunderbolt (Lonestar weapon) had a particular firing noise that anyone familiar with police (for, or against) could recognise instantly.
Maybe it could be two sets of Distinctive style for this weapon...one for seeing it, and one for hearing it.
Either way, anyone in any way familiar with the PC is going to hear this one coming!
Note: It's actually not that hard to get a pistol-weapon firing this big.
I recommend starting with a Savalette, give it the Small mod firing selection change (going from Burst fire to Full Auto), add the same High-power Chambering and Voila! you have almost exactly the same weapon, but with an inbuilt smartlink, some recoil comp and even a few mod slots spare for further customisation....like, I don't know...a Sound Suppressor? :P
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This is a real request from a player for a "pistol":
You start with the Warhawk, then you fill up all six slots with Large Mod Firing Selection Change (to add Full Auto) and High Power Chambering from War (+2 DV, -1 AP). After that, you overmod it to give it a Custom Look, engraving the name 'Bessie' on the side of the barrel.
You now have an 8P, -3AP Revolver that can fire a Long Burst, emptying the cylinder in a single shot and jumping the damage to 13P before net hits. Of course, Hambone applies both his Foot Anchors (+2 recoil comp) and his Cyberarm Gyromount (+3) whenever he fires it, nicely negating the -5 recoil mod from full auto. It's a bitch to reload, but its worth it seeing the look on a ganger's face when you pull this massive mother of gun out of your cyber holster and splatter his chrome troll buddy all over the payment in a single shot.
I don't know if I should laugh or cry-I ask for people to flesh out their characters and this is what I get.
As a player this is the kind of thing I really like having to have. As a gm is the kind of thing that makes me want to beat players over the head for lol
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As a gun nut, I wonder how the mechanics behind this would even work. Of course, you could always just "Fan" your gun like Clint Eastwood does.
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I bet you'd need a cyber hand to fan that beast
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Fanning the hammer? No.
Holding onto revolver itself, yes. Break your wrist otherwise. It's practically a wrist-breaker on it's own.
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either way lol
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Can a pistol really handle that kinda stress, long term? The thing has got to fall apart after a use or two.
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Well I know alot of guns being made now are rated for +P ammo, so its not a huge step up from that
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Can a pistol really handle that kinda stress, long term? The thing has got to fall apart after a use or two.
As long as it's properly maintained, firearms are typically over-designed for the ammunition they use.
The actual restriction that exists for powder charge is usually the Brass used.
I'm pretty sure I've heard that a Browning M1935 (AKA: The Browning Hi-Power) from WWII, if properly maintained as I've stated, can use modern 9mm Parabellum +P ammunition without much problem. And, well, the Canadian Armed Forces are supposedly still taking those babies out of the packing grease from production runs from WWII to issue to officers, brand new.
But, I'm not a shooter, nor have I ever served, so all I have to go on is research, and that can sometimes be wrong, and I freely and fully admit that.
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Make it into an autorevolver that drops the hammer when the trigger is down? Probably makes a stuttering noise.
Or go crazy and have an electrically powered cylinder and hammer (or use electric firing), kinda like a gatling gun.
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"My very first pistol was a cap and ball Colt
Shoot as fast as lightnin' but it loads a mite slow" - Devil's Right Hand, Steve Earle
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Can a pistol really handle that kinda stress, long term? The thing has got to fall apart after a use or two.
Depending on what materials the frame is made out of you could see cracking on the crane, just south of the forcing cone. As an example S&W's new models have been reported to crack, in the above mentioned spot, for rounds that produce higher pressure (magnum, +p). That's because S&W started using an alloy to make the revolvers lighter.
The Super Warhawk is based off of the Ruger Super Redhawk (http://www.ruger.com/products/superRedhawk/index.html) (the Super Blackhawk is a single action hunting revolver so I don't think it based off of that model). Revolvers are heavy duty and simple in mechanics, but they are engineered to fire whatever they've been chambered for. In this case the Redhawk is based off an 'N' frame, which is designed to shoot hunting sized calibers, like the .44 Magnum/.454 Casull. So ultimately the GM needs to decide if the High Power Chambering is scaled up beyond what the frame is designed to shoot. IRL the Redhawk is already at the top end of what the frame can handle, but who knows what it's designed to do in the Warhawk.
I would make the call that they would need a frame rebuild to handle the scaling up in ammo (the whole point of the Ruger Super series is to handle the largest caliber round for the largest frame). Another example would be like trying to modernize a .45 ACP cartridge from black powder standards, which is where it is still IRL, to current capabilities. The pistol would have a catastrophic failure in your face if you fired it without a total rebuild to handle the new characteristics. The cylinder I wouldn't worry about as much, because they are designed for HIGH pressures, but I still wouldn't fire it under water (there was only ever one revolver designed to fire under water and it wasn't a mainstream weapon).
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You mean .45 Colt Long Revolver and not .45 ACP, I bet. Smokeless Powder was developed a bit before 1911. :P
The Colt Single Action Army Model of 1873 is still in production, BTW, and comes in a variety of calibers, including modern .357 Magnum and .44 Special.
Man I wish I could own firearms... 100th Anniversary of the M1911 special editions are available for ordering now...
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You mean .45 Colt Long Revolver and not .45 ACP, I bet. Smokeless Powder was developed a bit before 1911. :P
The Colt Single Action Army Model of 1873 is still in production, BTW, and comes in a variety of calibers, including modern .357 Magnum and .44 Special.
Man I wish I could own firearms... 100th Anniversary of the M1911 special editions are available for ordering now...
Oops I've got .45 on the brain, I meant to put .45 LC... I've been eyeing the S&W Governor (http://www.smith-wesson.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Product4_750001_750051_786049_-1_757767_757751_757751_ProductDisplayErrorView_Y) lately. It's a bit gimmicky, but it shoots .45 ACP, .45 LC, and .410. It sounds fun to me!
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Oh nice. Reminds me of the old Medusa Model 47 revolver. That baby could chamber and shoot any 9mm caliber ammo you could name. The only ammo they didn't test it on were museum pieces in rarity.
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Man I wish I could own firearms... 100th Anniversary of the M1911 special editions are available for ordering now...
They are. Go to your local store.
Oh nice. Reminds me of the old Medusa Model 47 revolver. That baby could chamber and shoot any 9mm caliber ammo you could name. The only ammo they didn't test it on were museum pieces in rarity.
I've seen it once at the store.
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Hey, that's my gun! I posted that in the Trigger Talk thread. Your player even used the name Hambone!
My personal favorite gun right now belongs to an eccentric Dwarf Rigger who goes by the name Hambone. Hambone may be married to his drones, but his mistress is his beloved Bessie, a customized Ruger Super Warhawk.
You start with the Warhawk, then you fill up all six slots with Large Mod Firing Selection Change (to add Full Auto) and High Power Chambering from War (+2 DV, -1 AP). After that, you overmod it to give it a Custom Look, engraving the name 'Bessie' on the side of the barrel.
You now have an 8P, -3AP Revolver that can fire a Long Burst, emptying the cylinder in a single shot and jumping the damage to 13P before net hits. Of course, Hambone applies both his Foot Anchors (+2 recoil comp) and his Cyberarm Gyromount (+3) whenever he fires it, nicely negating the -5 recoil mod from full auto. It's a bitch to reload, but its worth it seeing the look on a ganger's face when you pull this massive mother of gun out of your cyber holster and splatter his chrome troll buddy all over the payment in a single shot.
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Man I wish I could own firearms... 100th Anniversary of the M1911 special editions are available for ordering now...
They are. Go to your local store.
I'm in Canada. They don't exactly have that at my local store.
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Man I wish I could own firearms... 100th Anniversary of the M1911 special editions are available for ordering now...
Oh man I think i just died and went to runner heaven
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Man I wish I could own firearms... 100th Anniversary of the M1911 special editions are available for ordering now...
They are. Go to your local store.
I'm in Canada. They don't exactly have that at my local store.
Ditto for Australia. Handgun laws are bloody strict down my way.
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Man I wish I could own firearms... 100th Anniversary of the M1911 special editions are available for ordering now...
They are. Go to your local store.
I'm in Canada. They don't exactly have that at my local store.
Ditto for Australia. Handgun laws are bloody strict down my way.
lol is it wrong that I really wanna start sing the USA national anthem right now :P
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lol is it wrong that I really wanna start sing the USA national anthem right now :P
Bloody Separatists. :P
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lol is it wrong that I really wanna start sing the USA national anthem right now :P
Bloody Separatists. :P
Say what you want, I think I'll go clean my handgun now ;D
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You know what bugs me, chummer? Political/Legal issues aside, guns are expensive. They would seem to be the privilege of the wealthy.
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You know what bugs me, chummer? Political/Legal issues aside, guns are expensive. They would seem to be the privilege of the wealthy.
Only legally.....
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You know what bugs me, chummer? Political/Legal issues aside, guns are expensive. They would seem to be the privilege of the wealthy.
Ehh that depends on what you get, yeah the really nice and fancy ones are, but you can get a cheap hand gun for less then $200. I guess thats kinda expensive, but thats cheaper then a crappy tv anymore
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I'm sad that no one cares my character was swiped. I'm gonna go mope in the corner now.
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I'm sad that no one cares my character was swiped. I'm gonna go mope in the corner now.
Poor Ryo. Do you need a hug?
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I'm sad that no one cares my character was swiped. I'm gonna go mope in the corner now.
Poor Ryo. Do you need a hug?
Yes, please.
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I'm sad that no one cares my character was swiped. I'm gonna go mope in the corner now.
Poor Ryo. Do you need a hug?
Yes, please.
Well come here and I'll give you a man hug lol
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You know what bugs me, chummer? Political/Legal issues aside, guns are expensive. They would seem to be the privilege of the wealthy.
That's because Budget Firearms, even when legally produced, sold, and owned, have the reputation of being "Saturday Night Specials" for criminals. Sad, really...
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You know what bugs me, chummer? Political/Legal issues aside, guns are expensive. They would seem to be the privilege of the wealthy.
That's because Budget Firearms, even when legally produced, sold, and owned, have the reputation of being "Saturday Night Specials" for criminals. Sad, really...
I would disagree the only handgun I own is a Highpoint .40, cost me $165 new, with a live time warranty. Never had any trouble with it and I'll probably get a .22 from them
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I'm sad that no one cares my character was swiped. I'm gonna go mope in the corner now.
Plagiarism off a forum? Say it ain't so! :o
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You know what bugs me, chummer? Political/Legal issues aside, guns are expensive. They would seem to be the privilege of the wealthy.
In the Americas, 1776, the cost of a musket would be a month's wage for a skilled workman... Never were cheap, but nowadays you'll find more affordable firearms for sale.
Like aimlessfreak, my brother bought a couple of firearms for obnoxiously cheap at a Big 5 sporting goods store (Bass Pro & Cabellas also sell used and consigned weapons). They sell plenty of 'left overs' from WW2, some of them still have attached bayonets, and they are more than capable of being put through the ringer. I guess it depends on what state you're in (if you're in the US), because it can cost more for bureaucracy than for the firearm. I bought a no bells and whistles Remington 870 Police when I was in California, and it shocked me how high the processing fees could get. I prefer to buy from the places that can do all their own work (repairs & custom), they tend to give discounts to repeat buyers, military, police, and bulk purchases.
If you're in Canada I can put you in touch with some locals, east coast, that can point you in the right direction for starting the legal hoops... Last I heard buying ammo took a fingerprint check, maybe that was just a regional thing?!
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In the 18th Century, buying a firearm was for life, possibly generations. That's month's wage was worth at least twenty years, if not longer, of service.
WWII weapons range in price depending on availability. M1 Garands were going to have a major lowering of price until the US State Department got in the way of Korea selling their old stock of back these "Military-Grade Weapons" to the USA, aimed at selling them to civilians. SMLEs and Kar 98Ks are pretty popular in Canada, but most are already owned by families and aren't as likely to be sold, from my understanding. (If you're from the North, like I am, there's even a touch of "From my cold, dead hands" thoughts going on when it comes to the family rifle. It got Great Grandpa through The Great War, Grandpa through WWII, and put food on the table ever since.).
I'm in Canada, yes, but not a Maritimer. I think just having fingerprint checking would be a local thing, as I've heard some rather bad stories from folks. :(
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Hey, that's my gun! I posted that in the Trigger Talk thread. Your player even used the name Hambone!
My personal favorite gun right now belongs to an eccentric Dwarf Rigger who goes by the name Hambone. Hambone may be married to his drones, but his mistress is his beloved Bessie, a customized Ruger Super Warhawk.
You start with the Warhawk, then you fill up all six slots with Large Mod Firing Selection Change (to add Full Auto) and High Power Chambering from War (+2 DV, -1 AP). After that, you overmod it to give it a Custom Look, engraving the name 'Bessie' on the side of the barrel.
You now have an 8P, -3AP Revolver that can fire a Long Burst, emptying the cylinder in a single shot and jumping the damage to 13P before net hits. Of course, Hambone applies both his Foot Anchors (+2 recoil comp) and his Cyberarm Gyromount (+3) whenever he fires it, nicely negating the -5 recoil mod from full auto. It's a bitch to reload, but its worth it seeing the look on a ganger's face when you pull this massive mother of gun out of your cyber holster and splatter his chrome troll buddy all over the payment in a single shot.
That is TOTALLY correct, and I apologize. :-[ I am a full time student and I was wanting to throw in some other things and change a few, but just didnt have the time. By the way, this pistol ROCKS the world!!! Again sorry for the swipe...
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I don't mind you using the idea, just as long as you aren't swiping credit for it. So, is this game a play-by-post? I wouldn't mind seeing my gun in action in another game.
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The Super Warhawk is based off of the Ruger Super Redhawk (http://www.ruger.com/products/superRedhawk/index.html) (the Super Blackhawk is a single action hunting revolver so I don't think it based off of that model).
I resend my previous assumption. I was looking at the Warhawk earlier and notice that it's SS, so perhaps it is based off of the Ruger Super Blackhawk (http://www.ruger.com/products/newModelSuperBlackhawkStandard/models.html) (looks more 'old west' than the Redhawk).
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I really like this "combo", it is both completly fun and complety crazy. :)
I imagine the lone runner who have only one shot to lay down his target, and leave holes in the ground at the place he stood when firing.... what make forensic and police job easier ;)
Really, this kind of proposition make me laugth. Thanks for this good time. ;)
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I don't mind you using the idea, just as long as you aren't swiping credit for it. So, is this game a play-by-post? I wouldn't mind seeing my gun in action in another game.
Neg. Tabletop game going on bi-weekly.
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I don't mind you using the idea, just as long as you aren't swiping credit for it. So, is this game a play-by-post? I wouldn't mind seeing my gun in action in another game.
Neg. Tabletop game going on bi-weekly.
Haven't said you can use it yet, khansgod01 ;) .....did you really get that from the forum? ???
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I don't mind you using the idea, just as long as you aren't swiping credit for it. So, is this game a play-by-post? I wouldn't mind seeing my gun in action in another game.
Neg. Tabletop game going on bi-weekly.
Haven't said you can use it yet, khansgod01 ;) .....did you really get that from the forum? ???
He did. From me. It's in Trigger Talk.
My personal favorite gun right now belongs to an eccentric Dwarf Rigger who goes by the name Hambone. Hambone may be married to his drones, but his mistress is his beloved Bessie, a customized Ruger Super Warhawk.
You start with the Warhawk, then you fill up all six slots with Large Mod Firing Selection Change (to add Full Auto) and High Power Chambering from War (+2 DV, -1 AP). After that, you overmod it to give it a Custom Look, engraving the name 'Bessie' on the side of the barrel.
You now have an 8P, -3AP Revolver that can fire a Long Burst, emptying the cylinder in a single shot and jumping the damage to 13P before net hits. Of course, Hambone applies both his Foot Anchors (+2 recoil comp) and his Cyberarm Gyromount (+3) whenever he fires it, nicely negating the -5 recoil mod from full auto. It's a bitch to reload, but its worth it seeing the look on a ganger's face when you pull this massive mother of gun out of your cyber holster and splatter his chrome troll buddy all over the payment in a single shot.
It's worth noting I have since changed Bessie, giving her Firing Selection Change Large Mod, Custom Look 2 and Personalized Grip, then loading her with Ex-Explosive Rounds. This changes her from 8P -3 AP to 7P -3AP, makes the ammo a lot easier to come by, and also allows for 1 point of integrated recoil compensation.
Custom Look 2 also means I can get a lot more interesting with the gun's appearance. A description follows.
Bessie is a black tinted revolver with a pearl grip. The barrel of the gun has the name 'Bessie' engraved in fanciful gold script, which flows out from the name to cover the majority of the barrel. The pearl grip is etched in gold with the image of a bucking bronco, and each chamber of the cylinder is etched in gold as well, showing 6 separate stages of a bomb exploding. When the weapon is fired on full auto, this essentially plays out as a small flip book.
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I don't mind you using the idea, just as long as you aren't swiping credit for it. So, is this game a play-by-post? I wouldn't mind seeing my gun in action in another game.
Neg. Tabletop game going on bi-weekly.
Haven't said you can use it yet, khansgod01 ;) .....did you really get that from the forum? ???
I know that. And yes I did get it from the Trigger Talk forum. It is an AWESOME idea. As I mentioned earlier, I WAS going to do other things, but me being a full time student and all doesn't give me much time to hash over things...
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You know what bugs me, chummer? Political/Legal issues aside, guns are expensive. They would seem to be the privilege of the wealthy.
Not any more than anything else, really.
I got my Glock for about as much as I spent on my XBox 360, and my AK for the price of 6-8 games for it. A box of 100 9mm rounds runs me less than an average graphic novel or DVD purchase, 1000 rounds of 7.62 for the price of two or three decent gaming books, and all my guns and ammo put together would maybe be half of what I've spent on Shadowrun books. Gencon's gonna run me more than a weekend trip to a reputable firearm training academy would, by a longshot.
It all comes down to what guns you want, and what your idea of "wealthy" is, I suppose. If you don't buy yourself an XBox 360 or PS3 game every month, you've got enough to buy yourself a nice 1911 in December...and I promise the 1911 will last longer. ;)
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I want a Centennial-Edition M1911. :'(
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I want a Centennial-Edition M1911. :'(
You and me both
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I'm seriously thinking about a Colt Government 2066 for my "Accountant From Hell" character that I hope to use in a game just because of my love for the M1911. :P
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It sounds just like trigger talk again...here is what every runner needs
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WOW!!! Is that government issue... LOL!!
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Hey, I once thought about paying a group for a job done with a truck full of Government Soycheese.
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Fake. The real dehydrated water was made by Russian scientists to water down vodka. :P
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Fake. The real dehydrated water was made by Russian scientists to water down vodka. :P
They were later shot behind the chemical shed for sacrilege against Vodka.
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Fake. The real dehydrated water was made by Russian scientists to water down vodka. :P
They were later shot behind the chemical shed for sacrilege against Vodka.
No they were shot in front of the Kremlin, thats a state crime :P
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I sit corrected.
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I don't understand why everyone is so freaked out about allowing a pistol that fires one long, out of control (8+5P -3AP) burst before needing to be reloaded with a complex action. ( And besides, it takes a free action to deploy the foot anchors and start the cybergyro, then another free action to disengage the foot anchors to allow movement again.)
Did everyone forget that you can just load an Ingram Supermach 100 with 60 rounds of stick and shock and do 17S(e) -half AP full-auto bursts all day long, without the need for extensive, illegal cyberware (but it helps ;))?
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I don't understand why everyone is so freaked out about allowing a pistol that fires one long, out of control (8+5P -3AP) burst before needing to be reloaded with a complex action.
Uhm...who's freaked out? :o
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I think it's just the novelty. Everything's better with spinning!
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The gun nut in me goes, "How, just... HOW?", but the action movie fan in me goes, "COOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL! Gatling Revolver!"
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Exactly! Just like that Nerf revolver...drek, can you imagine what Nerf is like in 2070? Better yet, Nerf Cyberguns!
Actually, do you suppose Nerf produces Gel Rounds?
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Nerf Narcojet Pistol.
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Exactly. Full auto revolver is just cooler than abusing stick-n-shock, despite all the drawbacks.
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Exactly. Full auto revolver is just cooler than abusing stick-n-shock, despite all the drawbacks.
Fully Automatic Revolver using Stick 'n' Shock?
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At what point does Stick and Shock just up and give you are heart attack? Are there legal liabilities involved with that ammunition?
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When the stun damage overflows into physical damage and then you overflow that. Also, when the person being hit gets a critical glitch on their Body roll.
LOW-lethality rounds. Not NON-lethality rounds.
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True enough.
BTW, regarding the cost of firearms, I purchased my pistol (http://www.gundirectory.com/more.asp?gid=20227&photoNum=2 (http://S&W .40 Model 410))after I left the Navy in '98 for about $450 to $500. That was about two paychecks worth. Not terribly expensive.
It's a pretty dependable firearm, and it fits my hand comfortably. Good buy.
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When the stun damage overflows into physical damage and then you overflow that. Also, when the person being hit gets a critical glitch on their Body roll.
LOW-lethality rounds. Not NON-lethality rounds.
The politically correct term is 'less-than lethal'
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When the stun damage overflows into physical damage and then you overflow that. Also, when the person being hit gets a critical glitch on their Body roll.
LOW-lethality rounds. Not NON-lethality rounds.
The politically correct term is 'less-than lethal'
Politically Correct terms are for the "Differently Minded". I'll call a spade the BLUNT OBJECT I USE TO SMASH YOUR HEAD IN, and like it.
Sorry, seen and been the target of too many double-standards for PC BS.
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I don't know that it's politically correct. More like 'liability minded' or 'accurate'.
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Yeah, it's not so much the "politically correct" term as just the "correct" one, period.
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Sorry, seen and been the target of too many double-standards for PC BS.
I can second that notion whole heartedly! My idea of LTL ammo is rock salt scattergun rounds or aiming for extremities...
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aiming for extremities...
Round here they call that a warning shot.
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Sorry, seen and been the target of too many double-standards for PC BS.
I can second that notion whole heartedly! My idea of LTL ammo is rock salt scattergun rounds or aiming for extremities...
Rocksalt is a good way to say, "GET THE HELL OFF MY PROPERTY" with the warning shot going to center of mass.
Aiming for extremities is not exactly the easiest thing to do... Then again, I'm a Canadian that can't own firearms, so what do I know?
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Pumping a shotgun sounds the same loaded or not
scary as shit
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Pumping the shotgun and putting a shot into the chest of the first intruder sounds a lot scarier, and will also usually get the authorities around faster than a simple 911 "I have an intruder" call.
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Pumping the shotgun and putting a shot into the chest of the first intruder sounds a lot scarier, and will also usually get the authorities around faster than a simple 911 "I have an intruder" call.
Yeah but then you have to clean up the mess afterwards
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With rock salt, there isn't that much of a mess, other than the guy pissing himself and happy that he isn't dead.
Then you pump the shotgun again, again with the scary sound, "The next one is steel buckshot." in your best Clint Eastwood impersonation.
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Seems like you're asking to end up firing the wrong round; that's why I never liked dual magazine lethal/less lethal guns.
Heh...I wonder if Supersoaker is a subsidiary of Parashield?
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Seems like you're asking to end up firing the wrong round; that's why I never liked dual magazine lethal/less lethal guns.
Make sure you load your shotgun correctly. Know your weapon.
As for dual magazines, Smartgun Links will prevent issues like that.
I'd be tempted to get multiple versions of the Dual Magazines, and make a Judge Dredd-esque Lawgiver Pistol.
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I'd be tempted to get multiple versions of the Dual Magazines, and make a Judge Dredd-esque Lawgiver Pistol.
Damn it now I have "Mean machine, mean machine" stuck in my head
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I'd be tempted to get multiple versions of the Dual Magazines, and make a Judge Dredd-esque Lawgiver Pistol.
Damn it now I have "Mean machine, mean machine" stuck in my head
Anthrax's "I Am The Law" is stuck in mine occasionally.
I just wish it was easier to get the graphic novels here.
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Rocksalt is a good way to say, "GET THE HELL OFF MY PROPERTY" with the warning shot going to center of mass.
Aiming for extremities is not exactly the easiest thing to do... Then again, I'm a Canadian that can't own firearms, so what do I know?
I spent a lot of my informative years on a ranch in northern California where drugged out wackos come around looking to find anything they can sell for the next high. They come outside the city limits because police response time goes from minutes to hours and sometimes days. So shooting trespassers became a normal part life.
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I live in Canada, we can't shoot or even seriously hurt anyone even if our lives are in danger unless we want to seriously risk jail time. >:(
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I live in Canada, we can't shoot or even seriously hurt anyone even if our lives are in danger unless we want to seriously risk jail time. >:(
You guys are just to nice
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"Candy @$$." The phrase is "candy @$$."
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The phrase is "Centered towards coddling the f***ing criminals while screwing over honest citizens."
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But you have Tim Hortons :P
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So I know where to go if I ever need a cop. Better hope there's one nearby if I'm ever mugged and stabbed because I can't fight back...
The PRIME MINISTER gets assaulted and beats some sense into the idiot, and the RCMP pulls the guy away and asks if he wants to press charges!
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Just remember you could always come south :P
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While I certainly agree with the sentiment, fellas (more than most, I'd wager), let's be careful about turning the thread too political.
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Just in case it wasn't clear everything I've been saying has been in good humor
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Just in case it wasn't clear everything I've been saying has been in good humor
I've been serious.
Yes, let's move away from this and go back to .500 S&W Gatling Revolvers.
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sounds like a plan
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Last comment on the priors... Doesn't Canada have the highest hunting related accidental death rate on this continent?
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Possibly, but that's because we have so much to hunt, so there's a lot of hunters. Got to take that also into consideration.
Also, it doesn't happen with Gatling Revolvers. Usually Bolt-Action or Semi-Automatic Rifles.
I'm also going to point out that I know quite a few hunters, and they inform me quite actively that tourists are the major reason for that fact.
Edit: It's also easier to explain to the cops that it was a "Hunting Accident" than it was, "Those idiots from out of town didn't respect my clearly marked property lines." But I'm only guessing that part.
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Just wondering do the hunters there have to have all the safety orange that they do here?
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Here's a better question, when Shadowrunners go hunting (Because, you know, the heat is too high in the city, and you need SOMETHING to do), do they wear hunter orange? Or just hope their pink mohawks are enough to make sure they're not mistaken for Snow Moose?
And it depends on the hunter, but the ones I know do wear them, yes.
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I'm not sure, I mean awakened snow moose might have pink mohawks too
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I want to play an awakened Snow Moose with a Mohawk and Punk Mentalities now.
He'd be killer in a bar fight! Only problem, a regular Moose can DRINK! A Snow Moose could drink a group of Troll Quebec Lumberjacks under the table, one after another!
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I seem to remember being on a crosscountry trip and suggesting that we go hunt Awakened Buffalo from the comfort and safety of a zeppelin. My gamemaster dismissed it as being insane, and dangerous.
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This is probably going into new thread territory, but...
I imagine hunting in he sixth world would be hugely more dangerous since Homo Sapien _(insert your variant)_ is no longer at the top of the predator list. I knew a guy from South Africa who owned a farm, we would call it a safari, and from his opinion the only thing more dangerous than man is a Black Rhino, though it's not a predator. Everything else could be easily cared for with Bull Mastiff's (I was amazed when he said that a single B-Mastiff could kill a lion without help) or hunting firearms.
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To continue the derail, Hippos will mess people up too (and boats, and cars).
On topic, interesting gun. I wouldn't use it on my current character, but it's more of a style thing keeping me from doing such.
I have been thinking of making El Mariachi as my next character, maybe on him.
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Yeah...though I bet it'd be even flashier if we could make it a gyrojet or a laser, or shoot grenades...
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In all honesty, I'm more interested in the whole machine gun in a guitar case as a weapon. Kinda an upsized Executive Protector. The recoil would be the biggest problem.
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Exactly. Full auto revolver is just cooler than abusing stick-n-shock, despite all the drawbacks.
I was more referring to the "slap my player" "impose _____ penalty" "it would have to..." from the first page before people started talking about their personal firearms.
It seemed to me that people had a problem with this gun, despite the fact that it already has lots and lots of problems by design.