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Title: Great Topic
Post by: Prime Mover on <09-03-10/1738:47>
Been reading through Corp book this week and making a list of hints and leads that have plagued SR for years without any answers. 
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Post by: Caine Hazen on <09-03-10/1745:48>
Like why someone introduced Psycics as something special in Z-O?  Cause that one keeps me thinking someone didn't know the rules for magic when they were writing :D
Title: Re: Great Topic
Post by: Wayfinder on <09-03-10/2027:24>
If you're going to list all the unanswered leads from past source books you'll need a LOT of paper. I think every book from first edition on has several leads and hints that were never fulfilled in an official or fictional sense.
Title: Re: Great Topic
Post by: Jackal on <09-03-10/2111:42>
Like why someone introduced Psycics as something special in Z-O?  Cause that one keeps me thinking someone didn't know the rules for magic when they were writing :D

I predict they'll all go mad...
Title: Re: Great Topic
Post by: FastJack on <09-03-10/2135:01>
If you're going to list all the unanswered leads from past source books you'll need a LOT of paper. I think every book from first edition on has several leads and hints that were never fulfilled in an official or fictional sense.
Don't forget that many times the runners contradicted themselves with differing theories.

Me, I'd like to learn more about that Pendragon guy. Seriously? He just disappears back in the æther after the Queen takes out the Lord Protectoriat? And what about the sword? Did Laughing Man get it?
Title: Re: Great Topic
Post by: Critias on <09-03-10/2137:07>
Me, I'd like to learn more about that Pendragon guy. Seriously? He just disappears back in the æther after the Queen takes out the Lord Protectoriat?
What was he supposed to do, stick around and rule?  His job was done.  Batman doesn't stick around and actually run the Gotham City PD, does he?   ;D
Title: Re: Great Topic
Post by: Random on <09-03-10/2151:43>
Like why someone introduced Psycics as something special in Z-O?  Cause that one keeps me thinking someone didn't know the rules for magic when they were writing :D

Actually did something with that in a game I GMed about 15 yrs ago (no type). Created a bunch of Adept powers around that theme....Not a very succesful experiment ;D
Title: Re: Great Topic
Post by: Prime Mover on <09-05-10/0159:55>
The resolution of the Pendragon storyline happened behind the curtain so to speak, surprised such a long running plot was wrapped up so quick and quiet.
(Maybe I'm just nostalgic for our long nights running missions in England after London sourcebook came out.)
Title: Re: Great Topic
Post by: Patrick Goodman on <09-05-10/1123:30>
What was he supposed to do, stick around and rule?  His job was done.  Batman doesn't stick around and actually run the Gotham City PD, does he?   ;D
But he should. :)
Title: Re: Great Topic
Post by: FastJack on <09-05-10/1449:21>
What was he supposed to do, stick around and rule?  His job was done.  Batman doesn't stick around and actually run the Gotham City PD, does he?   ;D
But he should. :)
He does in Earth-2.

Seriously. Bruce Wayne became GPD Commissioner after Jim Gordon retired on Golden Age Earth-2. After he married Catwoman, of course. Made the dinner table awkward later on when their daughter became The Huntress and turned to vigilantism.
Title: Re: Great Topic
Post by: martian_bob on <09-05-10/1509:29>
What was he supposed to do, stick around and rule?  His job was done.  Batman doesn't stick around and actually run the Gotham City PD, does he?   ;D
But he should. :)
He does in Earth-2.

Seriously. Bruce Wayne became GPD Commissioner after Jim Gordon retired on Golden Age Earth-2. After he married Catwoman, of course. Made the dinner table awkward later on when their daughter became The Huntress and turned to vigilantism.
Power Girl is still the best thing to come out of that continuity, IMHO.
Title: Re: Great Topic
Post by: Critias on <09-05-10/1510:50>
I think you mean Power Girl is the best two things.   ;D
Title: Re: Great Topic
Post by: Casazil on <09-06-10/1840:28>
The whole thing with pendragon would have made a great adventure to publish.

and not small time either big like the harleyquin books.
Title: Re: Great Topic
Post by: FastJack on <09-06-10/1910:00>
That's what I was hoping for. And to have a sidequest in there somewhere that Pendragon went to Tír na nÓg to address the court there... ;)
Title: Re: Great Topic
Post by: Turtletron on <09-06-10/1925:30>
Sorry if i look like the guy who don't follow, but who or what is Pendragon? ??? looks interesting.
Title: Re: Great Topic
Post by: FastJack on <09-06-10/2052:31>
Sorry if i look like the guy who don't follow, but who or what is Pendragon? ??? looks interesting.
OMG! OMG! OMG!

*ahem*

Sorry, that was my ... nephew ... Yeah. He jumped on the computer while I was making dinner.

Pendragon appeared in London raising a ruckus against the Lord Protectorat office. He was a hypnotic speaker, and wielded a sword that may or may not have been Excalibur. He was able to organize all the different groups together into the largest peaceful march ever to protest the Lord Protectoriat, with no violence occurring, no matter how much the Protectoriat's officers provoked the group. Upon speaking to the group outside of Buckingham Palace, Queen Catherine came out to the crowd, joining with Pendragon and abolishing the LP's office. At which point, that was the last time anyone has seen him.
Title: Re: Great Topic
Post by: Turtletron on <09-06-10/2131:01>
Ok, but if the sword was Excalibur, wasn't it supposed to be Harlequin that was in possession of it?
Thanks for telling me who was Pendragon btw.
Title: Re: Great Topic
Post by: FastJack on <09-06-10/2144:25>
Yeah... there was even a comment about that in one of the descriptions about he sword he was carrying. The Laughing Man mentioned that maybe he should go check it out...
Title: Re: Great Topic
Post by: Casazil on <09-07-10/0532:44>
Last I read no one had Excalibur but Dunkelzhan said in his will if found return it to the Dunkelzhan Instatute of Magical Research and youd get I think it was a favor from Harleyquin?? AKA the last knight of the crying spire.
Title: Re: Great Topic
Post by: The_Gun_Nut on <09-07-10/0620:26>
The old name was the Crimson Spire, but ya.
Title: Re: Great Topic
Post by: FastJack on <09-07-10/0859:30>
Casazil's got the right of it:

Quote from: Dunkelzahn's Will
To the last Knight of the Crying Spire, I leave the suit of armor worn by Richard the Lion-hearted on his Crusade, because it's up to You to lead the next one. I also leave you the sword Excalibur — unfortunately, I can't seem to find it at the moment. To whomever finds Excalibur, deliver it to the Draco Foundation for a reward and title. The Draco Foundation will promptly turn the sword over to you, my knight.
Title: Re: Great Topic
Post by: Turtletron on <09-07-10/1018:30>
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Casazil's got the right of it:

Quote from: Dunkelzahn's Will
To the last Knight of the Crying Spire, I leave the suit of armor worn by Richard the Lion-hearted on his Crusade, because it's up to You to lead the next one. I also leave you the sword Excalibur — unfortunately, I can't seem to find it at the moment. To whomever finds Excalibur, deliver it to the Draco Foundation for a reward and title. The Draco Foundation will promptly turn the sword over to you, my knight.

Sounds like Harlequin will have to get the sword back from Pendragon, should be interesting :o
Title: Re: Great Topic
Post by: FastJack on <09-07-10/1039:27>
Laughing Man's made a couple of comments regarding Excalibur. One insinuates that Arthur had taken a lot more credit than he deserved for Camelot, and the second was when it was mentioned that Pendragon was carrying the sword. Something akin to "Maybe I should pay him a visit."

It's been noted that Pendragon has visited the island that appeared in the English Channel (which many consider may be Avalon), no matter how hard the Lord Protectoriat's office tried to keep him away...
Title: Re: Great Topic
Post by: Casazil on <09-07-10/1859:36>
Harlequin vs. Pendragon

I'd buy tickets!!! :o ;D
Title: Re: Great Topic
Post by: FastJack on <09-07-10/1958:59>
Harlequin vs. Pendragon

I'd buy tickets!!! :o ;D
Probably go something like this:

"`sup, Arthur."
"Hoi, Caim."
"How ya been? How was the nap?"
"Not bad, had this krick in my shoulder for what seemed like years."
"Uh-huh... Listen. Big D, ya remember 'Merline', right? Anyway, he left me the sword in his will."
"Yeah, I saw that. Just needed to borrow it to get England back on track. Here ya go."

<Casazil angrily yelling and booing as he throws his popcorn at the two of them.>
Title: Re: Great Topic
Post by: Casazil on <09-07-10/2023:09>
Harlequin vs. Pendragon

I'd buy tickets!!! :o ;D
Probably go something like this:

"`sup, Arthur."
"Hoi, Caim."
"How ya been? How was the nap?"
"Not bad, had this krick in my shoulder for what seemed like years."
"Uh-huh... Listen. Big D, ya remember 'Merline', right? Anyway, he left me the sword in his will."
"Yeah, I saw that. Just needed to borrow it to get England back on track. Here ya go."

<Casazil angrily yelling and booing as he throws his popcorn at the two of them.>

Sadly I bet your right they would be like that.
Title: Re: Great Topic
Post by: kinderkrieg on <09-07-10/2026:34>
i may be combining memories from different books here, but i could've sworn there was something mentioned in one of the short stories in spells & chrome about excalibur and being on the astral...don't have the book with me atm, i let a friend borrow it. like i said i could be combining things...i'll have to figure out where i'm remembering this from. it's gonna aggrivate me until i remember now...>_<
Title: Re: Great Topic
Post by: Casazil on <09-07-10/2028:36>
i may be combining memories from different books here, but i could've sworn there was something mentioned in one of the short stories in spells & chrome about excalibur and being on the astral...don't have the book with me atm, i let a friend borrow it. like i said i could be combining things...i'll have to figure out where i'm remembering this from. it's gonna aggrivate me until i remember now...>_<

Well if it's in the NEW book spells & chrome I have been slacking as of late an have yet to read that one. Could also be I only have the PDF version of it.
Title: Re: Great Topic
Post by: kinderkrieg on <09-07-10/2035:59>
ya, it would be the new one. got it at gencon, started reading it and couldn't put it down. it's worth the time to read, and being short stories you feel a sense of accomplishment finishing a story in like 30 min lol. ya i'll get it back and do some research as to where i saw the reference
Title: Re: Great Topic
Post by: Turtletron on <09-07-10/2051:15>
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Quote from: Casazil on Today at 05:59:36 PM
Harlequin vs. Pendragon

I'd buy tickets!!! Shocked Grin
Probably go something like this:

"`sup, Arthur."
"Hoi, Caim."
"How ya been? How was the nap?"
"Not bad, had this krick in my shoulder for what seemed like years."
"Uh-huh... Listen. Big D, ya remember 'Merline', right? Anyway, he left me the sword in his will."
"Yeah, I saw that. Just needed to borrow it to get England back on track. Here ya go."

<Casazil angrily yelling and booing as he throws his popcorn at the two of them.>

That would be funny as hell, i'd also buy a ticket, but to see Casazil yelling at them XD.
Title: Re: Great Topic
Post by: Casazil on <09-07-10/2059:11>
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Quote from: Casazil on Today at 05:59:36 PM
Harlequin vs. Pendragon

I'd buy tickets!!! Shocked Grin
Probably go something like this:

"`sup, Arthur."
"Hoi, Caim."
"How ya been? How was the nap?"
"Not bad, had this krick in my shoulder for what seemed like years."
"Uh-huh... Listen. Big D, ya remember 'Merline', right? Anyway, he left me the sword in his will."
"Yeah, I saw that. Just needed to borrow it to get England back on track. Here ya go."

<Casazil angrily yelling and booing as he throws his popcorn at the two of them.>

That would be funny as hell, i'd also buy a ticket, but to see Casazil yelling at them XD.


Gee thanks..... ;D ;D :P
Title: Re: Great Topic
Post by: Turtletron on <09-07-10/2110:33>
Kinda makes me wonder what kind of powers Excalibur has. Must be one hell of a weapon focus, but the sword must have some other powers?
Title: Re: Great Topic
Post by: Casazil on <09-07-10/2112:18>
I wouldn't put it past the devs to make it a massively powerfull focus mid double digits 40's 50's it may even be slightly selfaware.
Title: Re: Great Topic
Post by: FastJack on <09-07-10/2121:36>
Weapon/Power focus? Probably also gives a serious bump to Social skills.
Title: Re: Great Topic
Post by: Turtletron on <09-07-10/2211:07>
Weapon/Power focus? Probably also gives a serious bump to Social skills.

like some kind of power to inspire people into doing great things like the peaceful prostestation you spoke of earlier.
Title: Re: Great Topic
Post by: FastJack on <09-07-10/2249:34>
Exactly. All the stories about him in the sourcebooks went on about how he was a terrific speaker and inspired a lot of people, but didn't have the aura of a Social Adept.
Title: Re: Great Topic
Post by: Turtletron on <09-08-10/0016:26>
As we talk about all of this, I feel like I should try to find and read some Earthdawn books, since a majority of the most powerful characters(immortals and dragons) came from that era.
Title: Re: Great Topic
Post by: kinderkrieg on <09-08-10/0022:03>
As we talk about all of this, I feel like I should try to find and read some Earthdawn books, since a majority of the most powerful characters(immortals and dragons) came from that era.

Thats why i got the earthdawn books at gencon this year heh heh heeeeh....
Title: Re: Great Topic
Post by: Casazil on <09-08-10/0026:47>
Weapon/Power focus? Probably also gives a serious bump to Social skills.

I was just saying a powerfull focus as it is clearly a weapon but a combined power/weapon focus yeah that'd work.