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Shadowrun Play => Play-by-Post => Topic started by: adamu on <02-24-16/1650:09>
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Okay, this is where we'll keep all the OOC action for Tangled Currents on this board.
All the first wave Dumpshockers are up, and now Black Bart is up on this side.
Rest of first wave is Prof Gast, Jack_Spade, and BigGuns, also all on this side and up by end of the week.
(Apologies again for the big delay from last week.)
Second wave will start up as soon as possible. That will be Chrome Head (love your stuff on OP, man), Beta, Pap, and Brickyard if she returns.
I also have placeholders for Horseman and Renard in that wave if I get submissions from them.
If I missed anyone, please speak up!
This thread will be for ongoing action.
You can keep using the recruitment thread for build/submission questions or, of course recruitment issues.
RECRUITMENT UPDATE
I'll put this in the recruitment threads also, but...
Second wave will be the end of the one-on-one, then duos, then finally groups format.
I will still have recruitment open for people that want to join as others drop out, but they will be brought into the existing groups.
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@BlackBart
Will need initiative, declaration of actions, and any rolls you think you might need (including some defense rolls).
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Apologies, just noticed the IC for my character. I'll try and get a post up for it later today.
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Apologies, just noticed the IC for my character. I'll try and get a post up for it later today.
Actually my bad for being so late with everything!
Post when you post - all cool.
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Well, my IC is pretty much combat at the start, so before I post anything there, I put up my dice pools.
Initiative is 10+1d6. First roll man i got a six... not even playing. So initiative 16
First attack on elf is Agi+Unarmed for 14 dice. I had a question since the elf is coming down on top of me, when I grab, does me slamming him into a wall act as throwing or still unarmed?
Def roll is 10 dice
Resist Damage is 21
Tell me if got this right or not. An unarmed attack has 8S damge, with 10 accuracy. Does that mean against an unarmored opponent I could do 10 hits of 8 stun damage?
I don't even know if this was the stuff you were looking for Adamu.
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@Adamu: I think I've managed to link all of the Tangled Currents threads in the master OoC here and on DS, all 9?!? You've got your work cut out for you!!! Enjoying it immensely, now I just need to keep track of them all :P ...and that's on top of your thread with Mercy...on p10 of 17 there sheesh ::)
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@Adamu: I think I've managed to link all of the Tangled Currents threads in the master OoC here and on DS, all 9?!? You've got your work cut out for you!!! Enjoying it immensely, now I just need to keep track of them all :P ...and that's on top of your thread with Mercy...on p10 of 17 there sheesh ::)
Dude, that's very macho and i appreciate it much.
All those links and things - I literally get dizzy thinking about trying to sort all that.
Sorry about the volume. It's a bit much for me as well, but once things coalesce then it will probably just be a couple of more conventional run-oriented threads (but hopefully with the added depth of more fleshed out characters and relationships).
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I have complete faith that you'll manage that just fine ;D
If you need help with anything (develop locations, find connections etc.) just send a PM.
And don't fret about the speed. The dynamic will come by itself once we are all fully invested.
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Well, my IC is pretty much combat at the start, so before I post anything there, I put up my dice pools.
Initiative is 10+1d6. First roll man i got a six... not even playing. So initiative 16
First attack on elf is Agi+Unarmed for 14 dice. I had a question since the elf is coming down on top of me, when I grab, does me slamming him into a wall act as throwing or still unarmed?
Def roll is 10 dice
Resist Damage is 21
Tell me if got this right or not. An unarmed attack has 8S damge, with 10 accuracy. Does that mean against an unarmored opponent I could do 10 hits of 8 stun damage?
I don't even know if this was the stuff you were looking for Adamu.
BB - thanks for this!
Have PMed you with a few questions about your stats.
Once we straighten that out we should be able to resolve this little fracas with the elves fairly quickly, and I'll put up answers to your rules questions above at that time.
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Been a while since there's been a response in the threads for this one (though the "Al and Alyce" thread got posted in yesterday).
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@BigGuns - it is actually a big deal to me that I had them use your street name instead of the real name they know you by. I'm going to edit that right away, and I appreciate you pointing it out!
Also, instead of putting spoilers in the IC posts, would you mind puttin such messages here in the OOC thread? Thanks!
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Sam intends to contact Gordo as soon as Ken weighs in on if it's a good idea or not. It isn't that he doesn't trust Comb, but he's had no real dealings with the Ko'mungo since coming to Seattle and in cases like that he always falls back on asking the information broker's opinion.
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Big announcement
Due to me obviously biting off more than I can chew, the esteemed Mercy Merchant will be co-GMing with me. Specifically, Mercy will be launching the one-to-ones for the Second Wave and GMing those characters until stated otherwise.
Because I have taken so much longer than planned to get this started, some people may have justifiably given up on me (ouch).
So Mercy is trying contact all the second wave folk, and do pipe up here if you have not been reached.
Also, Mercy is having trouble getting registered on Dumpshock, so may have to conduct things on Shadowgrid.
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Cool :) I really enjoyed seeing MM as a player in another game, will be cool to see as GM. And, uh, I guess this means I need to actually decide on one character ASAP and get it re-submitted.!
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@Jack - wasn't really sure what was up with the werewolves - that's a game you play with her? Anyway, ball is in your court if you want to send Kate a message.
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@adamu
That's just a bit of fluff - an online MMORPG I like to mention in every SR pbp game one of my characters is in ;D
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Preston OOC (for post 1)
Scanning the area: Perception pool 12
Perception (http://orokos.com/roll/385134): 12d6t5 3
Check for hidden devices: Computer pool 10
Look for hidden icons (http://orokos.com/roll/385136): 10d6t5 4
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@Adamu/Mercy: to ensure I don't miss anyone can you let me have a total list of PC threads (and where they are) now please?
So far I've got
<<Spriggan>>
<<Rave>>
<<Vexboy>>
<<Des>>
<<Serge>>
<<Black Bart>>
<<Jan>>
<<Revenant>>
<<Sam Chat>>
Thanks!
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Preston @ http://forums.shadowruntabletop.com/index.php?topic=23767.0
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@BigGuns - dancing, huh? Well, there's no end to what can happen at an upscale nightclub in 2075 Vasa Park!
If you want to explore that - maybe to establish your relationship with Veronica better, or whatever you had in mind, I am ready to back-and-forth that for a bit, see where it goes.
Or your next post can have you back at the clinic (next 'planned' event).
No hurries, no worries, your call.
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@Adamu/Mercy: to ensure I don't miss anyone can you let me have a total list of PC threads (and where they are) now please?
So far I've got
<<Spriggan>>
<<Rave>>
<<Vexboy>>
<<Des>>
<<Serge>>
<<Black Bart>>
<<Jan>>
<<Revenant>>
<<Sam Chat>>
Thanks!
That's pretty much my list, broke down as:
Black Bart, Serge, Revenant, and Sam Chat here on SG.
DES, Jan, Rave, Vexboy, Spriggan, and now Lady Tanya on DS.
I'll let my new co-GM come back to you on Mercy's ever-expanding flock.
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So far I have:
Gaze: Shadowgrid
Preston: Shadowgrid
Helena: Dumpshock
Juniper: Dumpshock
I might have a couple more soon. I am far behind what Adamu is doing. I am such a slacker.
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@Jack_Spade - assuming you're willing to pay a measly Y500 for the matrix support (her 'friend rate"), then you will have no problem getting past the front desk and up to the proper floor.
Once you get there, I'll post what you find.
@BigGuns - didn't know if you generally carried your weapon, but assumed you did since you have a license for it on your fake ID. Not a big issue either way in this scene - but for the future, do you carry when you are out and about? How about at the clinic? Thanks!
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@BigGuns - didn't know if you generally carried your weapon, but assumed you did since you have a license for it on your fake ID. Not a big issue either way in this scene - but for the future, do you carry when you are out and about? How about at the clinic? Thanks!
Have a license on real SIN as well, but I figure that there's probably another one (stock with just regular ammo) for that identity. And yeah, he'd carry just about any time he's out and about. Probably wouldn't have it on him when treating patients, but it would probably be close enough to grab just in case.
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@ Mercy:
1) I'm not sure there is a need for anything new from you before my next IC Preston post -- I have things for him to be doing in the morning, I just can't stay awake any longer to write it all up at the moment.
2) Also still need to finish the OP version of the character sheet (with the 40 points of extra contacts). Given that it wasn't written down there yet, I'd like to up the loyalty on Radiant Shadow to three -- you had her responding more like a friend than a business contact, so that would be a better fit I think, and easy enough to explain that in the back-story at some point.
3) the various matrix searches that Preston set up in his last IC post are just set-up for his activities the next morning (but will buy hits: 2 each, if needed). I don't know that I need answers from you, but if you do want to define styles at all, feel free of course. Otherwise I'll avoid most specifics most likely and make up whatever I really need, which is simple enough.
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@ Beta Do I need to delete or edit my last post to let you do things in the morning or can you work around what I did?
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It is fine. I hope to finish the morning tonight :-)
Sorry to have dragged this part out so far, but I wanted to sort of baseline how he goes about routine, low key disguise to avoid becoming recognizable.
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LOL Do not be sorry about the pace. I love the sort of detail we can get this way. Keep doing as you are. I am in no hurry to get to the next step.....................it will still be there when we get to it. And this gives me a bit more time to tailor the encounters to you as I see your character evolve in front of us. Still trying to work out which of you is my favorite, but leaning to Monkey.
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Wow, 15 PCs on the go for this part of the campaign!!! Good going Admau and Mercy!!!
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We are trying. There are some good posters in this group to keep the pressure up for good stories.
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Anyone else feel guilty for conversational posts racking up the post count (hence karm+nuyen) quite quickly? I hate to just post a wall of text when there could be back and forth, but a bit of natural back and forth could easily turn a fairly mundane encounter into something quite lucrative.
Is there any existing rule of thumb for discounting short posts or anything like that? I'll do my own lumping together of short posts to keep the rewards somewhat reasonable, but was just wondering if anyone else was thinking about this, and how they were handling it?
(by the way, this is NOT a complaint about how anything is being done or run, more of a "Wait, just getting ready for the meet could easily end up being eight posts. If this goes on ....." (granted, maybe we'll burn Mercy out before long at the rate she's been replying, but in case she keeps up this super-human responsiveness ....)
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I will let Aria or Adamu make the call on that, but I happen to believe that even the short conversational posts add to character and plot development. I try to make mine so that it is not just a waste of time and space, but something that moves everything forward a bit. As I see it, it would be easy to just say, "Poof. You are now at the meeting after having a suit made and picked up flowers.", but I would rather RP out the encounters to help us both get more from the experience and give you a chance to showcase your talents.
Besides, there is no telling what sort of side plot might pop up from one of these events.
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I don't intend on policing your posts, move the story on or provide richer character background and post as much as you like! The reward scheme was devised to give an incentive to post and over the long run probably isn't too dissimilar to a tabletop karma award given pbp often can be very slow!
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OK, then I'll stop feeling guilty!
(and i totally agree, Mercy -- I think these things have value, and I really enjoy them. maybe I just felt bad about getting rewarded for something I enjoy so much?)
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Thank you for the nice comments, by the way.
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Anyone else feel guilty for conversational posts racking up the post count (hence karm+nuyen) quite quickly? I hate to just post a wall of text when there could be back and forth, but a bit of natural back and forth could easily turn a fairly mundane encounter into something quite lucrative.
I just avoid counting my posts. No counting posts, no karma. Simple.
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Anyone else feel guilty for conversational posts racking up the post count (hence karm+nuyen) quite quickly?
Nope.
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@Mercy: I'm willing to take clothes in lieu of cash. What would you put the value of all this tack at? I was thinking on the order of 8k, but that is just a finger in the air number.
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The cost of the clothes will depend on what you want as adaptations. Do not worry, you will pay for most of it in some fashion.
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With regard to the conversation at Crocus & Co: although Sonya is Preston's highest loyalty contact, she is also from the period covered by his 'Big Regret' negative quality, which means that when he is dealing with her his social limit drops by three ..... leaving it at one :o Throw in that his only social skill is etiquette so he only throws one die on anything other than simply behaving well .... it rather constrains what he can try to do in talking with her. The best he can hope for is to meet basic standards of decent behavior. I figured that he has enough history with her that whenever he's tried more, it has gone badly (I tried to show a bit of this with his comments on her having lost weight, when trying to be conversational he started screwing up)
Over time I may buy up his charisma and social skills, which will maybe give him a shot at sorting things out with her. But for the moment, I was just trying to show that despite the affection they have for each other, communication between them isn't working well.
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That came through pretty clearly. Well done.
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Not only out of character but off topic: In case any of you don't have enough shadowy goodness cascading across the boards already, I'll point out this thread: http://forums.shadowruntabletop.com/index.php?topic=23823.0 Biotech is working through the current season of Missions modules, which is a VERY different experience than games like are Stormy Waters and Tangled Currents.
Being missions, it is far more tactical and much less role-play than here so it may not appeal to most on this thread. But I thought I'd point it out all the same as a) he hasn't had much response because he posted in the 'looking for games' board rather than the 'play-by-post board', b) I ran the first module of the season with him and all but two of the players disappeared after the meet, which was rather frustrating, so I figured I'd advertise where I already know there are some really committed players.
Now I'll stopping spamming you, and return to Tangly goodness.
PS: been really enjoying reading other's threads. On the edge of my seat to see what happens between Joe and the goons, loving the dealing between Des and his passenger, and so on. So much good stuff!
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Hey everyone - work kicked my ass this week - hoping to bump everyone over this weekend.
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Thanks for the comments, Beta. Adamu are really working hard trying to keep up with the posting. Some of you guys are killers. If you like seat of the chair, check out the Helena thread on Dumpshock. Just starting something there.
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Thanks for the comments, Beta. Adamu are really working hard trying to keep up with the posting. Some of you guys are killers. If you like seat of the chair, check out the Helena thread on Dumpshock. Just starting something there.
i know, it was all going along smoothly, then "BOOM!" Nice change-up :) I'm not going to try and talk about all of the threads, but I am enjoying all of them.
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Yes. The going along smoothly then BAM can happen to anyone, even guys going to the opera.
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If the vehicle is putting out any publicly visible signals (as it should be given the neighborhood the club is in) any such the comm is detecting will be included in the message. If it isn't, then that will be included (as proof that the other driver is in violation of law for the area of town).
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Preston is going to be doing a lot of matrix perception: unless until one of us says otherwise, I'm happy to just buy (i.e. 2 hits).
And in case I didn't make it clear enough from the IC post, Preston's ongoing crush on Sonya is helping immunize her versus Tanya's charms somewhat, helping him focus on the job at hand.
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@Prof Gast - take his offer or not, totally up to you.
But if you are worried about staying in line with your Day Job quality, then thanks for remembering your negative quality penalties, but in this case don't worry about it (it's there to invonvenience you, not me!).
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@Jack.Spade
I was trying to decide what your Korean media friend was going to do, and I realized it is high time for a Con roll....
Assume your hacker friend thows together some suitable credentials for you, which will give you three extra dice.
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Fair enough ;D
Con Roll (http://orokos.com/roll/389527): 8d6t5 3 [8d6t5=3, 3, 2, 6, 3, 4, 5, 5]
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@Jack - loved your post. Dying to see what happens with all that toilet paper!
Just want to make sure we're on the same page with the layout (and sorry I'm too computer illiterate to do up any sort of graphic).
So assume you enter the office suite facing north.
So in the foyer you've got the reception desk on the north wall, and the bathroom you just used would have a discreet door on the east wall of the foyer.
The only other two doors out of the foyer are on the north wall, to either side of the reception desk. You are in the eastward room that is to the north of the reception desk.
It follows that there is another room to your west accessed by the other door from the foyer.
There is also a door on the west wall of the office you are in, which also most likely connects to the 'northwest' room. That is the door that had the loud pop music coming through, which music stopped a couple of minutes after you spoke to the receptionist about seeing Cheryl.
Will put a post up soon.
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I still consider the levels of charge you're having those people levy utterly nonsensical and ridiculous. There is no valid reason, IMO, for such cost beyond purely meta-game ones.
The figures given would put the increase up to 120,000 per month and that is high for an area such as Bellevue, thus completely out of line and absolutely ludicrous for Touristville.
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Sounds almost as if they don't want you to pay rent but leave. A not unheard of tactic. ::)
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Sounds almost as if they don't want you to pay rent but leave. A not unheard of tactic. ::)
Completely incorrect. I just expect that the actual rules be followed for these costs rather than arbitrary and exorbitant sums be made up because the GM thinks that that's supposedly necessary to "give a reason to run".
Just getting irritated at this point because I tried to work with it, and just ended up with the cost being exponentially increased again seemingly to counter my efforts.
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Thanks for the comments, Beta. Adamu are really working hard trying to keep up with the posting. Some of you guys are killers. If you like seat of the chair, check out the Helena thread on Dumpshock. Just starting something there.
i know, it was all going along smoothly, then "BOOM!" Nice change-up :) I'm not going to try and talk about all of the threads, but I am enjoying all of them.
Yup, that was pretty surprising !
Anyway, just wanted to give props to Adamu, Mercy and the others involved with TC, its been a blast to read and write so far ! ^^
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Thank you for the nice words. Adamu and I are trying to keep everyone in the independent threads interested enough that they will want to continue as we move to pairs and small groups in the future. The timing of those stages is pretty nebulous right now as we are all having fun (I hope). Both of us are very happy with the writing and posting we are getting from the various players. So kudos to all of you that have entrusted your characters to us.
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Just wanted to apologize for the lack of activity, got caught up in something this weekend. Will try to get something up tomorrow.
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Just wanted to apologize for the lack of activity, got caught up in something this weekend. Will try to get something up tomorrow.
Dude, thanks for checking in, but no worries.
We post when we can.
It's not like I have time to bump all these threads daily either!
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@BigGuns - all is well!
The one and only point of all this is to have fun.
If you are not, then we fix things!
Hopefully tonight or tomorrow night I'll carve out a block of time to bump all my Tangled Currents threads, and we'll see if we can shift gears a bit for you, reorient things to be more enjoyable for you.
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@Jack_Spade
Short IC, but you are so incredibly fast there is very little any of these people can do before it's your turn to act again!
What is Prestidigitation in game terms? I couldn't find anything on your sheet about it...thought maybe you meant Palming, but that's not on your sheet either. Let me know where that's from, because it sounds like something magic-trick-infatuated Al needs to get!
Finally, feel free to IC any further actions you might make within this room, including moving towards an exit if you wish, but stop any IC before actually leaving the room.
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Yeah, it's a specialization of palming. John is using his Stealth group + high agility to do this (Stealth group is the best group skill)
And sorry, yeah I didn't read this post before posting ;D
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Ah, wasn't looking for the Group on the sheet.
And sounds like a cool idea for a specialization...
Anyway, no sweat on the post - like I said in the PM, my next event will play pretty much the same, maybe even better this way....
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I promised this ages ago so apologies if you've been waiting for it...
Here's the Obsidian Portal Format if you want to do something a bit more than 'text wall' (which I have no problem with but some want it prettier!)
[spoiler]
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h4. #Ethnicity & Metatype#
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h4. Adept Powers
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h4. Spells / Complex Forms
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|>. |=. M /P|=. T/LOS (A) |=. I/S |=. F |=. ? |
|>. |=. M /P|=. T/LOS (A) |=. I/S |=. F |=. ? |
|>. |=. M /P|=. T/LOS (A) |=. I/S |=. F |=. ? |
|>. |=. M /P|=. T/LOS (A) |=. I/S |=. F |=. ? |
|>. |=. M /P|=. T/LOS (A) |=. I/S |=. F |=. ? |
|>. |=. M /P|=. T/LOS (A) |=. I/S |=. F |=. ? |
|>. |=. M /P|=. T/LOS (A) |=. I/S |=. F |=. ? |
h4. Weapons
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h4. Ammunition
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h4. Armour
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h4. Lifestyle
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h4. Cyberdeck
Standard Array: 5 Data Processing, 4 Firewall, 3 Sleaze, 2 Attack + Edit + Configurator
Configurator Array: 5 Sleaze, 4 Firewall, 3 Data Processing, 2 Attack + Exploit + Sneak
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|>. Armor |=. Hacking | +2 Resist Matrix Dmg |
|>. Biofeedback Filter |=. Hacking | +2 Resist Biofeedback Dmg |
|>. Browse |=. Common | Cuts search time in half |
|>. Configurator |=. Common | Stores Alternate Configuration |
|>. Decryption |=. Hacking | +1 to Attack Attribute |
|>. Defuse |=. Hacking | +4 to Resist Data Bomb Dmg |
|>. Demolition |=. Hacking | +1 to Data Bomb |
|>. Edit |=. Common | +2 to Data Processing Limit |
|>. Encryption |=. Common | +1 to Firewall Attribute |
|>. Exploit |=. Hacking | +2 Sleaze to Hack on Fly |
|>. Guard |=. Hacking | Reduce Dmg from Marks by 1 DV per Mark |
|>. Hammer |=. Hacking | +2 DV to Attack Actions |
|>. Mugger |=. Hacking | +1 Dmg from Marks on Others |
|>. Shell |=. Hacking | +1 Resist Martix and Biofeedback Dmg |
|>. Signal Scrub |=. Common | Rating 2 Noise Reduction |
|>. Sneak |=. Hacking | +2 vs Trace User, GOD Canont Find Your Physical Location |
|>. Stealth |=. Hacking | +1 Sleaze Atribute |
|>. Toolbox |=. Common | +1 Data Processing Attribute |
|>. Track |=. Hacking | +2 Data Processing Attribute When Tracing User, or Negate Sneak |
|>. Virtual Machine |=. Common | +2 Program Capacity, Dmg increased by 1 DV |
|>. Wrapper |=. Hacking | Override Matrix Icon Protocols |
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Just a question looking to the future: I assume you follow the usual 5th edition rules on improving abilities? (for the first time ever, karma is coming in fast enough that the scarce resource might almost be the downtime in which to make improvements! So just starting to tentatively plan out priorities, and thought I should double check that things run as usual)
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Beta - I don't want to speak out of turn since Mercy is handling you.
But speaking for myself, I think those "hey badass living outside the rules shadowrunner go and find yourself a teacher so you can learn how to raise our logic score" rules are the stupidest, most deeply incongruous artificiality in the game. I like to see some IC justification for the improvements players make, but my players shouldn't sweat all that X amount of time crap.
This is especially true since we are not doing a 'go on a run, run ends, we have no idea or care what your personal life is like, two months later a Johnson calls and you go an another run' kind of a game. We are running a continuous life sort of game, and you may or may not ever have 'downtime'.
If you want to use karma, I suggest you run it by your GM in a PM and go from there....
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Heh, just as well that I started threading in Preston's upgrade paths a while back. New voices in your head being a good thing may not be most people's ideas of 'things getting better', but each to their own, right? (That will still take a while, story-wise, but hopefully it can move at 'story speed' instead of 'calendar speed')
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LOL You better hope so since we are many posts in and still only a couple of days so far. It could be a lot of posts to get anywhere. And I am pretty close to Adamu's take on the training. I like to see some IC justification and will usually be willing to make some IC time to get some training. It is easier to justify something if you are improving it, but it might take a short period of instruction if it is something new. We can talk specifics as we go and you can always PM me with what you would like and we go from there.
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@Prof Gast -
need surprise test (+3 dice - you're RP obviously indicates wariness, and also suspicion of the other people present)
initiative
declaration for the first combat turn, and rolls for anything you do
FYI - Bumper is going to try to go right past you to melee Blue Dragon
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With how I've been playing him up so far, I think I need to dump some of this Karma into a few ranks of improvement to his Social Skills...
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Was that minus one thousand, so the guy is offering to pay to be security?
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I was assuming it was paying a thousand, but I may have misunderstood. If I have, then I'll edit the post once I find out for sure.
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He means he'll pay you a thousand a month for the privilege of providing security.
(It is conceivable there is a catch.)
But it's a weird enough offer that I think it's only natural for your character to misunderstand.
Edit if you want.
Or I'll just push forward and have him clarify himself next time I'm sitting here with the GM hat on.
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I'll go ahead and just leave it as is.
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Surprise Test @ +3 (http://orokos.com/roll/397623): 14d6t5 3 Passes
Initiative (http://orokos.com/roll/397624): 2d6+11 19
Sam will be moving to intercept and then using a Called Shot (Sweep) technique, Push the Limit with Edge.
Called Shot, Trip (+2 Style, +5 Edge, -4 Called Shot (http://orokos.com/roll/397627): 16d6h5 11 Oh that poor poor man... Sam has a Strength of 8 so if 8+net hits exceeds Bumper's physical limit, he'll get knocked down.
Due to the technique he will ALSO take 10S+Net hits damage.
Let me know if you want me to post the actions in IC.
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@Professor - nice call to use the sweep, for a couple of reasons - you'll see soon enough that this guy is...not really himself right now...you can sense that he's much stronger and tougher than you would expect, and hitting him might not have as much effect as you'd have liked.
Other thing is that you are pretty high up, and there's no wall or railing at all. You have so may net successes I'm happy to let you control the direction of his fall...
So go ahead and IC successfully sweeping him before he can cut anybody.
Please be sure to
(1) mention the sense that he is - for whatever reason, there are a few possibilities - stronger/faster than you'd expect (you can see it in the eyes, or he can be screaming, or do some sort of superhuman posturing, whatever you like)
and
(2) which direction you choose for him to fall......
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Just to be sure are the two pieces of arm-candy screaming inside the room with Blue Dragon? or out on the landing with me?
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Just to be sure are the two pieces of arm-candy screaming inside the room with Blue Dragon? or out on the landing with me?
Out on the landing with you.
Shocking, I know, that Blue Dragon didn't see to their safety before his own.
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@Big Guns
If you have more questions - by all means ask.
If not, then while I may toss something your way if I find myself with time and inspiration, a bit of time in the game world is going to pass before you get the call explaining more details of the job you've agreed to.
In the meantime, if you have any other projects you want to do - personal or professional - go for it.
Feel free to double/triple post etc. without me if it is a personal project.
But of course if you toss the ball to me by initiating something that you need me to post on, of course I'll respond.
I'll post "the call" once I'm (1) sure you have done whatever you might like in the meantime and (2) once some other timelines catch up to you.
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Never did get a response on putting some of this karma toward beefing the mechanical levels of his social skills given how I'd been playing him thus far.
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With how I've been playing him up so far, I think I need to dump some of this Karma into a few ranks of improvement to his Social Skills...
Hadn't realized this was a question.
No problem to spend karma on that..
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@Mercy: I was at a bit of a loss of which way to go, so thought I'd let the dice (or die) guide me. I figured 'negotiate' was the best skill for 'look, I'm interested, but need a little more space and time to take this all in.' A deliberate chance .... and this happened: negotiate (http://orokos.com/roll/400902): 1d6t5 1
You already saw the way I interpreted that in my IC email. Sorry I hadn't gotten this post up until now.
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I think you miss read that, it's actually a success.
1d6t5: 1 [1d6t5=5]
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So I did. I removed the post. I was thinking he was saying that he rolled a 1. Sorry.
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I think you miss read that, it's actually a success.
1d6t5: 1 [1d6t5=5]
I totally did -- saw a '1' and went "OK, I know which of the three options I've thought of to write up."
I guess i should have read more carefully!
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Glad to be of assistance. And I spotted this only because I once made the exact same mistake ;D
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@Prof Gast
There are a lot of fancy rules for beating down a barrier.
It's, like, a normal locked door.
I've looked at your sheet.
No need fo dice.
See upcoming IC.
EDIT - okay, the IC is up.
So, new combat turn.
Need initiative, actions, and rolls you'll need for your actions.
And defense rolls.
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@everyone in my game -
life hitting a crazy patch.
May not be able to keep up my two-bump-a-week resolution for the next little while.
I'll definitely be around as much as I can, though.
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Initiative (http://orokos.com/roll/402399): 2d6+11 16
Actions kinda depend on who acts first etc. If Sam takes first action he will definitely take an attack action, with Martial Arts: Kick. This'll give him a pool of 15 with +1 reach.
Kick Attack (http://orokos.com/roll/402400): 16d6t5 6 hits
If Sam is attacked he'll probably Edge Push the Limit a Counterstrike attack, which will be an exploding dice pool of 20 as an interrupt action.
Counterstrike (http://orokos.com/roll/402401): 20d6h5 10 hits
As a note though, Sam *does* have Adrenaline Surge which means unless his enemy is using Edge or has similar quality, he should be acting first.
P.S. I'm having horrific loading times on the site right now... kinda sapping my will to log in and check :-\
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@Prof Gast
I totally feel you about the load times on this site.
I just also keep Dumpshock open (when it's not down), and I do my posting there while I wait for this silly board to load my next page. Driving me crazy!
Anyway, yeah, you go first.
You can post yourself kicking the nasty beast spirit good and hard, even knocking it down.
Then from where it is sprawled on the floor it will use Fear on you. You'll need three hits on a Will + Log test to not run away in terror.
You can go ahead and IC-post that result once you determine it as well.
If you are not running in terror, then declare and roll for your next action here.
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@Big Guns -
As per my last OOC message - just a note that I am not ignoring Serge.
I have stories for each person designed to set them up for a point where things come together. For various reasons, yours played out first.
But I still welcome any self-directed action in the meantime.
I was thinking that since Serge has actually never done any sort of criminal or clandestine work in his life, now that he knows something like that is coming up within a few days, he may have things he wants to do in preparation, either physically or emotionally.
But that's just me tossing ideas into the ring - it's your character.
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@Jack
Just to clarify, the woman was seen at the four kill spots, but those were one-offs.
The three forested park locations are not locations of any violence, and she has (according to data retrieved from previous agents) been known to be at those spots more than once (though not with any discerible pattern).
Also, they have exact coordinates (to within a hundred meters or so) of the spots in each of the three parks.
They can get you a one-day tourist visa (public places only) for Council Island. It will only pass a cursory scan, though, as they don't have biometric data on you (do you even have biometric data?).
As for next IC post, you can go again if you want, since you are in 'self-directed' territory right now.
Of if you OOC me what you will do next, I can IC what (if anything) you discover.
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Ah, ok then I misunderstood.
What I still don't understand is how this all started - what, where and why was the first attack.
And no, no biometrics beside what a glove molder or a contact lens can provide.
My next step would be to go home, recharge/realign (Yes, AIs need to take a nap regularly and even longer than normal meta-humans) and than go on a stake out while going over the provided material.
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What I still don't understand is how this all started - what, where and why was the first attack.
My next step would be to go home, recharge/realign (Yes, AIs need to take a nap regularly and even longer than normal meta-humans) and than go on a stake out while going over the provided material.
The file they send will have what they know about all four attacks. They all happened in public places, and there are dates for each. The first one was about two weeks ago. Other than those factors, the exact dates and locations are unimportant - feel free to fill them in if you want to when you IC looking at the files.
As for the why, Korean Gordo was clear that they have no idea why these attacks are happening. (Whether that's the truth is for you to decide.)
Okay, so when you get time you can IC yourself to your first stakeout spot. Let me know in it which of the three it is and what exactly you do there....
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I'll start with the easiest to reach: Snohomish
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Just as a heads up I'm out of town on a trip atm. I'll try to get a post up when I get back.
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Just as a heads up I'm out of town on a trip atm. I'll try to get a post up when I get back.
No worries - appreciate the heads up!
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@Big Guns -
As per my last OOC message - just a note that I am not ignoring Serge.
I have stories for each person designed to set them up for a point where things come together. For various reasons, yours played out first.
But I still welcome any self-directed action in the meantime.
I was thinking that since Serge has actually never done any sort of criminal or clandestine work in his life, now that he knows something like that is coming up within a few days, he may have things he wants to do in preparation, either physically or emotionally.
But that's just me tossing ideas into the ring - it's your character.
Been trying to think of something, but I'm not good with self-directed.
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@Big Guns -
As per my last OOC message - just a note that I am not ignoring Serge.
I have stories for each person designed to set them up for a point where things come together. For various reasons, yours played out first.
But I still welcome any self-directed action in the meantime.
I was thinking that since Serge has actually never done any sort of criminal or clandestine work in his life, now that he knows something like that is coming up within a few days, he may have things he wants to do in preparation, either physically or emotionally.
But that's just me tossing ideas into the ring - it's your character.
Been trying to think of something, but I'm not good with self-directed.
No hurries, no worries, no pressure...just wanted you to know posts are welcome if you are so inclined, and will get responses if they are needed.
This whole multi-threads coalescing thing is a bit of an experiment, and one of the bugs is apparently that different storylines progress at different paces.
Trying to tweak things so that they come together, but limited time plus the snail's pace of PbP....
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Greetings all, I was informed by Mercy Merchant, via PM, that a spot for a new Player may be opening up in the Tangled Current threads that he is graciously running. I haven't yet posted my character build on the OP site, but I will endeavor to do so over the next few days, I started to post Echo (http://forums.shadowruntabletop.com/index.php?topic=487.msg450175#msg450175) in the Big Black Book thread, should I post his Appearance, Background & Bio there as well, or save that exclusively for the OP site?
As he has Amnesia, his background is doled out by one of his Contacts, via Video Clips, Personnel Files, and BTL chips. I was hoping to do his Background as a 1st person exposition as he sifts through this data trying to piece together who he was, and what he intends to become. A couple of questions as well, some Qualities I am used to seeing in 4E, specifically Biocompatibility, don't seem to have made the new Edition, are there alternatives to that specific quality, or it out completely? Secondly, from a narrative perspective, is it unreasonable, assuming a fake SIN with a Rtg of 4, and a fake Occupational License of the same rating, to assume that he has a day job as a Private Investigator, that pays some of the bills?
Anyways, thank you for your time, and this opportunity, I am very much looking forward to getting back into the Shadows, it's been some number of years for me!
Any comments or concerns in regards to the forthcoming build and background would be much appreciated!
~ Zen
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Day Job is in Run Faster. Biocompatibility is in Chrome Flesh.
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@Zen: you are welcome to post your background in the Black Book here but the main place we check for character info is the OP site now so prioritise that one please :)
I'll let Mercy respond on the character questions ;D
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@Irn0rchid - Thanks for the info, that helps! Though now I discovered that I made an error, my previous version of Chummer was allowing me to place Second Hand Enhancements in Standard Cyberlimbs, which isn't kosher. So I'll need to tweak his limbs to stay in budget.
@Aria - Right! The OP posting will be my priority, I just have a few other questions for Mercy before I put up the Build & Bio on the site.
Thanks once again.
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And after a hellish week at work, Bryant Champagne, currently going by the alias of Benoit Christianson, is up on Obsidian Portal (http://stormy-waters-2075.obsidianportal.com/characters/tc-bryant-champagne) for your review.
Early Childhood, Psych Profile and Employment History will all be forth coming tonight, or tomorrow. As some may note, the entry is being down as though a personnel file for his corporate handler, Ulyana Khorzikhov, who will get her own entry at some point as well.
If anything needs to be fixed or tweaked, let me know, hopefully Mercy still has a spot available.
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TC gives 40 points of freebie contacts too! Worth investing some time in them!
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Still limited to 7 though correct? Something to think about, though I will work on the background and character info first. Oh! Do I need approval for entries and such to earn the Karma? Just curious ;)
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@Zen The additional GM points for contacts are you helping us fill out the universe. These contacts are for you, but they are more under GM control and may not react entirely as you want them to. Not that any of the GMs here would try to screw you over through your contacts. No, you can be absolutely certain that will never happen because all three of us are really nice guys and would never think of doing that to you. Right, Adamu? Aria?
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It's not Shadowrun if you don't have to watch your back, your enemies, and your allies for the inevitable double cross. :)
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@Jack - wasn't sure if you had more to do in the clearing or intended to leave.
If you do leave, there will be a post from me before you leave the wooded area, so you can leave the clearing but not the woods.
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@Jack -
Surprise.
Initiative.
Actions.
Rolls.
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@Mercy Merchant
Not overly familiar with Seattle anymore, so the Lakeshore as a district doesn't give me much info for a narrative IC post, any clues you can give me on the layout of the district, commercial, industrial, entertainment, security and such. Stuff Benoit could find over a map soft, or news streams.
Just want to be more descriptive in the next post! :)
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@Zen. Very good point. Let me work something up that you can play against. I am sorry that I did not think far enough head to have it ready for you. Sorry to delay you. You can, of course, make something up and it will become real.
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No need to apologise, there is a Lake ridge Dr just off of Ranier, which would put the meet at the southeast edge of the Downtown core, a mile or so from the Bellevue district.
We could use that, though my parents are up this weekend so I may not have a post up till Sunday night anyways.
Thanks for the response though I'm having a blast getting into character!
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Question, as I am a newb to the board, is there a built in dice rolling function or do I have to use an external site? For example if Bryant wanted to scan the crowd at Lake Washington Park, how would I go about rolling it? In spoilers in the IC thread?
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I like Orokos for dice rolling. Xd6t5 is what you want for normal rolls and Xd6h5 for edge.
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I use Orokos as well. I do see the need for rolling dice on occasion, but prefer to just play it out for most things, but I have no problem with you rolling all the time, if you like. For my purposes, I like to have that posted in a spoiler in the IC as I hate having to flip back and forth. If you do not want to roll then please just list what your dice pool is and I will adjudicate it. It is pretty much your call.
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Edited it a Visual Perception check to my last IC post, I typically only roll when I am obviously using a skill to try to accomplish something, or when asked to by the GM. I am curious though, are the Tangled Current threads all solo, or is the plan at some point to converge them into a larger group arc?
Not that I mind at all, the solo thread allows me to build but Bryant's characterization in my own head. :)
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The TC threads are supposed to go to duos then to groups.
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That is correct. The TC threads are meant to be solo for a bit so that you and the GM can get comfortable with the character. Then we move to pairs to get you used to working together with someone, then on to larger groups. No set timeline to do that, at this point, but that is the plan. I think that Adamu actually has at least one pair already working together. I started after he did and am not at that point yet.
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Hey Mercy, in Echo's thread I dropped one of the hit team's gunmen. You provided a description detailing the result of that action but they didn't return fire, an I to assume I have another action due to surprise, or should I just post some narrative in regards to Jacobs and Rowena, before you have them light me up?
Thanks for any clarification, and I am very much enjoying the scenario.
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@Zen They are certainly not expecting any resistance here. Take another action.
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Sorry Mercy, I would have had a response up, but my son's ball game & hiccup with our internet this morning prevented me from getting a post in. I'll have a response for you this evening for sure!
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@Jack/Revenant
I'm not happy being grabbed/subdued without a defense roll - John's chassis may be slowed but it's not immobile
Dude, your words cut me to the quick.
Please rest assured that I would never have you controlled like that without you getting every chance to defend.
You'll recall that in your previous post you included a melee defense (on full D) roll.
That was not used immediately because you also successfully rolled to Evade.
But once the spirit caught up with you on the next pass (possible because his friend Slowed you), I rolled against that result.
Since you got five successes and the spirit was rolling only 11 dice, I fully expected to fail, but sometimes the GM gets a lucky roll.
He got six hits (well under his Limit), and your chessis is definitely Engulfed. No movement possible until you escape (per the rules).
As I explained in my earlier PM, he's choosing not to inflict damage, just hold you (for now).
Now I have to decide what happens when you Con a spirit - I know you don't want me to give away any secrets, but there are a lot of weird variables to consider!
I'll roll some dice and do an IC.
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Ah ok, sorry that was me getting home at 3.00 am from a very mediocre date - I really should stop posting after midnight.
That came over a lot harsher than intended.
(but a little Spoiler tag with background explanation would still be nice in the future - just so I understand ooc what happens)
All good.
That said: I hate engulf with a passion and I usually spend edge to avoid it because this power alone is as good as death in most circumstances.
A question on that account: Since I'm engulfed, a shock hand attack should be impossible to dodge, correct? So I can deliver the same auto damage as the spirit.
Regarding Con: Since Spirit and Conjurer are in telepathic contact, ultimately I'm conning the Conjurer.
I'm hoping for a dice penalty to see through that lie since John should be hard to read and gets the info second hand.
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@Jack
Ah ok, sorry that was me getting home at 3.00 am from a very mediocre date - I really should stop posting after midnight.
That came over a lot harsher than intended.
All cool - I have the same problem when squeezing out posts between dealing with problems at work.
Hope your next date is better than mediocre!
(but a little Spoiler tag with background explanation would still be nice in the future - just so I understand ooc what happens)
Yeah, as you know we talked a lot about how to resolve this scene by PM, but with PbP there's always that lingering fog....always happy to answer any questions I can about the behind-screen-process as long as it doesn't compromise story-secrets (which of course are often the cause of the most heinous disasters for the players!)
All good.
That said: I hate engulf with a passion and I usually spend edge to avoid it because this power alone is as good as death in most circumstances.
Yeah, Engulf is badass - but GMs need that stuff to even slightly challenge certain players!
If you would have liked to Edge your melee roll, that's really no problem.
I don't want to retcon the IC so far, but you haven't taken any damage anyway.
If you choose to use an Edge point now to reroll fails on that previous melee defense roll, and if you get just one hit, then we can simply give you an automatic success on your next attempt to escape the engulf.
A question on that account: Since I'm engulfed, a shock hand attack should be impossible to dodge, correct? So I can deliver the same auto damage as the spirit.
That is a very interesting question to me, bringing up a broader question I've thought about for the past 30-odd years of RPG play - balancing the necessary abstraction of the rules with the application of common sense rulings.
Of course each game system makes decisions on how finely to calculate every possible variable and still be playable. I think SR is somewhere around the middle of the spectrum there. When we shoot a guy with an armor jacket, he gets to apply the armor value to all shots against him, even though it really only covers his torso.
Then it we take it another step and can apply, say, the Run & Gun hit location rules, but we still end up with relatively broad result descriptions compared to some other systems, and certainly compared to what we might fluff in a descriptive IC. .
On the other hand, the beauty of table-top (or PbP) RPGs is that instead of a rigid computer, the GM is a human who can modify these abstractions to apply common sense. So in theory you get the best of both worlds - playability and also a very fine scale of variable judgment.
The problem then, is balance.
It tends to be the case that the players always come up with a common sense factor that would give them an advantage (like the idea that your shock hand should be undodgeable), but are generally displeased if the GM deviates from pure RAW when running the bad guys!
So I have to be cautious about that slippery slope.
So now that you've had a tiny piece of my RPG philosophy, I will tell you that for at least the first action, you can do auto damage (no defense, but he gets a soak) to the spirit. However, if you are still Engulfed by your next turn, we should assume that he's had the chance to isolate your wrist and prevent further such attacks.
Regarding Con: Since Spirit and Conjurer are in telepathic contact, ultimately I'm conning the Conjurer.
I'm hoping for a dice penalty to see through that lie since John should be hard to read and gets the info second hand.
Great minds thinking alike!
Yeah, I took this straight to the conjurors - yeah, the fact that it is plural is one of several behind-the-scenes variables I had to take into account, but you have probably guessed that one by now from the IC.
As for penalties, the point is moot as they are all believing you either completely or partially.
And that is the effect of Con - to convince someone of a lie.
What they do based on that belief - well, the IC is up.
Feel free to either post more IC or if you want to do something with dice first that is cool too.
On the other hand, if you don't fight, then things will remain static for a while (aside from the fact that the singing will resume!).
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@ Mercy
Good morning man, thanks for the game so far enjoying it for sure! Now, I didn't make a Willpower check to not open up on the new comer to the scene, if you want me to let me know and I can edit that in. Secondly, I am just assuming that his demeanour and appearance don't match either the gunmen or the pair of corp sec with them, otherwise I would have assumed he was a hostile target.
Let me know if I am wrong in that and I can change the narrative as required.
Thanks!
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@Jack, hope i've not taken liberties. You mentioned to the spirit you'd wait, so I assumed you did.
I suck at computery things, so hopefully this works....
https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=druidic+priestess&biw=1280&bih=917&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjs-_PWvqzNAhUYM8AKHbc5CEIQsAQIJg#imgrc=DCHe_AKwBx7WcM%3A (https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=druidic+priestess&biw=1280&bih=917&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjs-_PWvqzNAhUYM8AKHbc5CEIQsAQIJg#imgrc=DCHe_AKwBx7WcM%3A)
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Oh boy, that is indeed a hippy! ;D
I really wished Al was here.
And no, John is a good boy and stays - he wants information after all. He just doesn't want to hang in a tree for a few hours with the option of having his 100.000 Nuyen body destroyed. ;)
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Question, while certainly NOT an option given his current situation, Bryant (http://stormy-waters-2075.obsidianportal.com/characters/tc-bryant-champagne) will want to upgrade his limbs in the future. As such, I am curious how the process would go, lets start with his Left Cyberarm, it is currently 2nd hand cyberware worth $64875, a Beta Grade limb would cost $129750.
Obviously he would need to pay the full $129750 for the Betagrade limb, but could he recoup any of the funds spent on his current cyberarm?
Sorry, I do tend to plan long term, and going from 1.05 to 0.5 would open up a whole lot of body 'ware options.
Thanks for any information you may have. :)
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It is certainly possible to sell off used cyberware. It will be considered used and you will not recoup anything like what you paid for it, and even that may depend on who you are selling it to.
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Looks like the ones that Mercy is doing are the only ones still alive.
It's all right though. Been long enough that I've completely lost the feel for Serge.
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@Guns Adamu is crazy busy at work. I am sorry that you have lost the urge for Serge, but would you like to get back in with another character? I have some space and can take you if you are interested. Give me a jingle.
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Question for you Mercy, considering Rowena's current state in the Echo thread.
In 2076, one would assume that with the advent of cybernetic limbs, that there would be some sort of brace, or walking assist exoskeleton, that she could use in lieu of a wheelchair? Though that perhaps would require either trodes, or a datajack? Just curious if such a thing existed without resorting to cyberlimbs, as it was spinal trauma that brought on her paralysis.
Thanks for the feedback, and thanks for the game, been enjoying it alot. Trying to figure how to get out from this situation and it just keeps getting bigger and bigger. Eeeek! :)
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The problem with exoskeleton is that most of them probably only amplify the user's movements. While you could probably modify one with a DNI, I think it would be a custom job: there's probably not enough money to earn for a corp by doing this, since surgery, bioware or cyber would be able to fix the underlying problem (you can regrow limbs, so...).
But if you got your hands on one, I suppose Barbara could probably make the required adjustments (might not be easy though, unless she finds the code for some cyberlimbs and use it as a baseline to modify the native programming). Of course, finding the exoskeleton (or at least, a sufficiently discreet one) might not be that straightforward given your situation...
I must confess that I'm almost happy Barbara never answered my message. Dante's Inferno might be hell to Cynthia, but at least, she's safe and free ^^
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There are probably several ways to help with Rowena's situation. The unfortunate bit is that they all probably cost a ton of nuyen and she is a realist where that is concerned.................she doesn't have any. She is/was basically a full time student studying for her advanced degrees in psychology. Now, even that is curtailed by her condition and the loss of her job. However, you are building some good relations with a powerful gangster who might have good connections....................
Oh, and Eva? Safe and free for how long? Bwahahaha.
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I'm trying not to think about Eva, don't spoil the mood :o
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Just a little something:
OOC: Wow 2 10S -4 AP didn't take any of them out, I'm scared now =P
It's not 2 times 10S at -4AP, when two grenades detonate at the same time, you add to the first one half the DV of the second, and improve the AP by 1 (same thing if you have more than 2)
So here, it's 15S at -5AP.
So all in all, while it's not good news that the men are still standing, it's not too surprising either.
Anyway, good luck ;)
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Indeed. It does not mean they are not rocked on their heels, but even with AP-5 they can soak some of the stun and still be on their feet..................sort of. And maybe they are just tough.
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Ah okay. Thanks for the info. I was really thinking I was in over my head with that. I'm still new to 5th ed so I'm happy to learn game mechanics.
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I was really thinking I was in over my head with that.
It might still be true :P
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True but not nearly so obviously.
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knee (http://orokos.com/roll/426861): 10d6t5 1
That's not a glitch here, you have a pool of 10 so you'd need 5 ones to have a glitch.
Here you have 3, 4 on your clinch, and 3 on your elbow attack, but that shouldn't be enough to get a glitch. Unless you have some kind of negative quality that changes it?
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Awesome. I've always played that if you rolled more 1's than successes that was a glitch and 1's with no successes is a critical glitch. I'm guess that's another 5th ed rule I'm ignorant of lol.
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Yep, a glitch is at least half your pool as ones, and a critical glitch is a glitch with no successes at all.
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OOC: I am going to link you for a bit with Cynthia in the Eva/Cynthia thread but keep the threads separate. I do not know if we need to combine them yet.
Wouldn't it be better to do it in Echo's thread if only Cynthia is involved at this point? It would probably be easier to follow for Echo and since for now it's only messages, it doesn't really matter to me if it's in Eva and Cynthia's thread or Echo's.
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Doesn't much matter, I am watching both threads anyways ;)
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So do I. But I was thinking more in terms of continuity than anything else.
It would have the added advantage to not disrupt Eva's plots. Our thread could become a bit cluttered by adding another layer of posts not concerning Eva.
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OK. I can see the advantage of having Cynthia post in both threads for the time being. At some point it may mean a combining of both threads.
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The irony is moving it is that Eva is thinking about following. She got a tip from a hacker who tracks this kind of thing for fun, definitely a person worth talking to about it further. Also, I haven't really been keeping with the Echo thread, someone want to give me the cliff notes or will it be better if I learn it all through my character? I can go either way.
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Well... He's the one everyone is looking for, especially the mercenaries currently dropping bodies everywhere. So if you want to join him, you should expect some action (especially if said hacker is right and the mercenaries are currently on their way to introduce themselves to him)
After that I can't judge if you'd be better off knowing more or not, but you've probably got the main points there ^^
By the way, you may have missed a message from Cynthia where she warned you she was leaving:
[...] send a message to Marissa too <<It's getting late and I'm tired so I'm off to bed. You know how to contact me if you want something.>>
Not sure if you did or not, but since you seemed to learn Cynthia was leaving when you checked I supposed it might be the case.
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It's too bad Rose is not with Echo, she would have been able to build one hell of a wheelchair for Rowena, it would have helped in situations like this ^^
Anyway, take care...while Cynthia enjoys her dreams :P
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There's a problem with the dates in Echo, Eva & Cynthia threads: the evening at the Dante was sunday 10th, we spent maybe one hour or two on Monday 11th, and now we're tuesday 12th.
Who stole an entire day?
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Sorry. Thanks for the catch. Too tired. I will fix the date back to Monday.
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No problem :)
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Just a little something regarding Jeremiah's healing:
The good news is that you're supposed to add the rating of the medkit to your pool, subtracting one since you're indoors but not in a sterilized med facility.
The bad news however, is that if you are trying to "heal" her, you can only apply first aid at most one hour after the damage was taken:
First Aid can only be used if you have a medkit (even if you do not currently have supplies for it), and it may only be applied within 1 hour of when the damage was taken.
Since she was probably tortured by the mercenaries to find Bryant/Rowena/Barbara (shame on them by the way, not protecting the doc!) before they attacked the gangs, it would be 36 hours ago... Could be after for another reason of course, but I doubt it would be less than an hour (even with a large margin)
So it can probably be considered as a stabilization (even if strico sensu, stabilization is to stop overflow damage, which occurs every Body minutes). Good news is the threshold is 3, so even if you have a medkit with a rating of 1, your roll is enough. But she will need to be taken to your doc' friend before she can tell you anything I suppose.
Oh and I'm impressed by Eva's restraint. I expected her to flip out when she learned that Sylvia was employed by Tanya, thinking that their relation was some kind of plot or something...
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Teach us more, oh wise guru, Stuttr loves him some rules. We are pretty new to 5th ed and we only dabbled in 4th unfortunately. So we are way behind the times. Let me know if I'm glossing over the chemistry rules. I was really going for a kind of breaking bad motif when I set up Lizzie and I think I'm doing it all correctly. mostly I'm looking at chrome flesh though so if you have any suggestions I'd love to hear them. If you are even following my story line I don't think I have anything to do with you guys at all yet.
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Well, for chemistry, it's much easier for us: there are no rules, unless you want to make custom drugs (Chrome Flesh, p190). But for the drugs you want to make, nothing.
I suppose you could use the rules for Building & Repairing (with the modifiers p146, CRB) but it's not really made for this. And absolutely nothing is said regarding base materials you'd need, to compute costs, margins, etc. So it's pretty much up to the GM. It would be more important if we wanted to roll dice for every single thing, or if we wanted to know how much you make, but since we don't... It's a nice justification of the fact that we earn 2000 nuyens per 2 IC posts, so...
As for your storyline, I read it as all the other ones, and there's a link with Eva and Rose through Sian. Not a big one yet, but both of them know Sian.
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well yeah but I think I'm going to start making a whole heck of a lot more than that.. I would think it would be something akin to a chemistry 6 1 hour extended test per batch. I would imagine standard ingredient costs would be around 10% of the street value. But that's just me. I suppose if it comes up I'll deal with it then.
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Aww, no update for me? :sadface:
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That's what you get for being an evil dealer!
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I'm not evil I make people happy. I sell party drugs not heroin or BTLs
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That's too bad, I was wondering what little miss breaking bad was going to do next.
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I'm not evil I make people happy. I sell party drugs not heroin or BTLs
Bliss and Ex maybe, but Cram doesn't look like a party drug.
And you don't exactly sell drugs out of the goodness of your heart :o
Just a quick reminder, should it help Echo:
Cynthia sends a copy of the footage she got.
Footage concerning the mercenaries and their ongoing operation of course.
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Quick question, in Washington Rec, Echo spent an Edge to get the drop on the gunmen. I am seriously concerned that he is going to be outclassed against these guys, as my implants are primarily Cyberlimbs, and I didn't have the Yen or the Essence to buy decent Initiative Boosters. So I can see a fair amount of Edge use in the coming engagement, so just curious if I am going to start that combat scene at 4 Edge, due to previous expenditure, or at my normal Edge of 5.
Hell, I am halfway considering dropping the 30 Karma to up my Edge to 6. Heh.
And speaking of Karma, my latest post was #134 if my count is right, as such that's 67 Karma earned there, plus an additional 6 for starting Karma and O.P. posts, for a total earned of 73. That's Street Cred of 7, already, is that correct? Also, do I have some Notoriety knocking that down due to my massively hunted Status?
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You regain one point of edge for every good night, which you did at least once if I'm not mistaken. Which means that even with a strict interpretation of rules, you have your 5 points of edge.
And given the nature of the game (ie. pbp), edge is refreshed more often. But well, here I can't tell you much more than that of course ^^
And yep, 73 karma is 7 in street cred. I don't know for notoriety but there may be some Public Awareness too.
Speaking of karma, curious I looked a bit at the sheets on OP: Rose's sheet is really out of date (I don't really want to count since the posting of mails is mudding things though ^^), but on Eva it's the opposite, there is too much karma. It's not critical since it's not spent karma, but it's quite a bit:, probably because Vegas counts 1 karma / IC I think. Instead of 70 karma earned in Eva & Cynthia thread, it's 42.5 karma (for 85 IC as of reply #375), and on Eva thread, I didn't check to see if there were OOC posts, but the thread sits at 364 replies so it should be around 182 for Vegas, which translates to 91 karma...and not the full 182.
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Looks like I didn't get the update this time. I'm sure Mercy is very busy, so while I am sad, I'm very grateful for everything they do.
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I missed a couple of updates. Sorry. Real life is impacting and I sometimes do not get to everyone. I wish I was better at it and will try to do better. I am off to a wedding today that is about 150 miles away, so will not be back until tonight. Sorry.
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We totally understand. I'm sure we all think you are doing an awesome job and I for one thank you for all that you do. Doesn't stop me from wanting more but you are doing a great job. I'm sure everyone agrees.
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Yep, don't worry about it, it's cool :)
Doesn't stop me from wanting more
As all humans do no matter what the situation is. It's part of why we're so successful as a species in fact ^^
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OK. I have a question raised by one of my players that I do not know the answer to. Can I get some opinions or guidance?
By the way, when a mage loses an essence point through getting an implant, does it reduces the current magic value in addition to the maximum possible magic score, or just the maximum?
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Both as far as I know but I couldn't point you at a page reference ??? ::)
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By RAW, I'm pretty sure it's both, but yeah, no idea where it comes from (might just be a case of "most people do it that way/never questioned it" in fact). The only thing as far as I know regarding this in the CRB would be p52:
It also affects the Magic and Resonance attributes, as losses in Essence are reflected by losses in Magic and Resonance.
It doesn't say maximum or current however.
There's an house rule in chummer that only reduces the maximum and not the current value (as long as the maximum is higher than the current value, from initiation for example) however.
So I suppose that at least some do it that way, and that it's at least frequent for it to be included in Chummer, but how common it is, I don't know.
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I know in fourth ed if you went below current you burnt out, no idea in 5ed though.
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Ok, found this is 4th edition:
Anything that reduces a character’s Essence will also reduce Magic. For every point (or fraction thereof) of Essence lost, the character’s Magic attribute and her Magic maximum rating are reduced by one.
And from there, I found the equivalent in 5th, CRB p278:
Anything that reduces your Essence also reduces your Magic rating. For every point (or fraction thereof) of Essence lost, both your current Magic Attribute and your maximum Magic Rating are reduced by one.
And it's the same thing for Resonance by the way (CRB p250):
For every point (or fraction thereof) of Essence lost, both your current Resonance Attribute and your maximum Resonance Rating are reduced by one.
So the question becomes "Do we apply RAW, or house rule this?" ^^
By the way, I did some digging, and it looks like this house rule in Chummer is not recent, it was present at least since 4th edition.
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@Cynthia First, I think we apply RAW to your question. Second, I think you might have misread the last post. The nurse with the tray left the room, yes, but the guard in the door just grumbled. When I referred to the remaining nurse, I was referring to him being the remaining of the two nurses, not the only other person in the room. The guard is still at the door. Will that change your post?
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Sure, it was what I always expected to do anyway so it's no problem.
I edited my post. More dangerous than I wanted but... Fingers crossed :o
And good luck to Echo ^^
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LOL Not too sure how much he will need with all the support that is coming. But I need to combine threads for the fighting. I think it best if we go to the Eva & Cynthia thread. I will start there and see what happens. It may even mean we are combining both threads. We will see how this works out.
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I don't really understand Eva's move with the spirit though. Sure, Air spirits are the fastest of spirits, but they don't go that fast. Had it been at another hour in the center of downtown, it could have been to avoid the jams, but here, the car should go much faster. And given the probable size of the buildings, she'd have to fly over them to go faster, which would make her more visible.
Given the absence of rolls, I'll suppose that it's a Force 4 spirit. This means that its movement values are 14/28.
28m / turn translates to 33.6 km / h. If it tries to sprint, it will get an average of two successes, which means it goes up to 57.6 km / h.
The only solution I see would be to have the spirit use its movement power, then it would go up to 230 km / h. Much better (a bit too much though, you'd probably need to have the spirit use it's guard power on you...) but it starts to be a lot and the use of the power would leave a consequent signature in the astral and effectively signalling that you're coming (as would the invisibility spell and the spirit itself in the astral anyway). If they have a mage on overwatch, it's dangerous...
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Yes, assuming they do not have a mage of their own might be dangerous.
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I can use movement. I can also roll if you'd prefer, and I could go for a higher spirit after I spend some of this Karma (which, can I do that right now?) and I really just don't want to arrive late for the fighting. I can fly lowish, mages wont see through the buildings.
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They can't. I don't think they are high in the sky (otherwise they wouldn't be discreet either...), but you won't know on site. And if they notice you... Well, geek the mage is a notion I never want to get to my enemies head when I'm playing a Mage ^^
For the rolls you'd have to see with Mercy, but with a force 6 spirit, you can take some drain there, so it could be important especially with the spirit whisperer quality which adds one resistance dice for the spirit.
It's the same thing if you want to cast a Force 6 invisibility for example, even more so that you'd have to cast it twice, once for you, once for the spirit (with a 2d sustain penalty).
This is even more important that it takes place before a combat situation.
When you do stuff at Force 4 or less it's not really an issue unless you're really unlucky, and since we don't want to roll for every little thing...
Another point to keep in mind is that you only have invisibility and not improved invisibility... There will be a lot of noise on the next day with all the footage of a mage flying through Seattle... And some of that footage is bound to be of reasonably good quality...
Speaking of karma, be careful, you put twice what you should have on your sheet, see here (http://forums.shadowruntabletop.com/index.php?topic=23520.msg461375#msg461375)
For the rolls, you can use this: http://orokos.com/
For Shadowrun the codes are Xd6t5 where X is your dice pool, unless you pre-edge your roll, then it's Xd6h5.
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For at least six hours today the forum was unresponsive.
Maybe we should take steps* in order to be able to smoothly transition to dumpshock forums. You know, just in case...
* said steps could just be to have a save of the threads (print button, bottom right of one of the thread page, save the resulting htm), and an activated account on dumpshock.
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I have a DS account and some threads already there.
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I'm going to concur, if only because I tried to respond last night, and I couldn't due to site issues. Let me know what the consensus is and I will make the transition.
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Agreed. If that is the consensus, I will move the post there tonight when I return from work.
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I can do it today if you want. I'll even try to have a script add the colours in the printed file. Should be easy.
Does Vegas have an account there though?
Visual Perception Check, ugh, what a shit roll! Visual Perception (Bratva Territory Rooftop Scan) (http://orokos.com/roll/432176): 14d6t5 4. And then a Stealth check to remain hidden from potential shooters; Sneak Check (Bratva Territory Rooftop) (http://orokos.com/roll/432177): 11d6t5 2. Apparently I have been abandoned by Polyhedrous, the patron saint of dice!
4 successes for 14d rolled is hardly a bad roll! A bit under the average, but since the average is 4.66 it's not too bad, you're just asking too much from your dice :P
And you'd need a resist invisibility roll too (Logic + Willpower).
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Didnt they say something about a new server? It seems to be working better than before. Maybe they were just working on it.
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Yeah, they said something about a new server in may. And that's all. No news since. Not saying there won't be but...
And if it works a bit better, just wait a bit, it'll pass...
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So, like I said, I copied the thread Eva & Cynthia over to dumpshock, it's here (http://forums.dumpshock.com/index.php?showtopic=41680)
It's from the printable html version of this forum, which removed the colours. I made a script that added them back, transformed the html back to bb code, etc. It's not perfect, there are things not exactly right, but it should be ok.
Now that I have the script, I can do the same in a matter of seconds for others if you are interested. Just note that there is only one colour for the speach, the script can't decide to alternate.
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I think I've broken our GM, damn!
By the way, the site was slow again yesterday, but we can see the post on dumpshock as a save rather than the new place to post, the slow loading is frustrating but it's not like we have to go there if you prefer it here of course.
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Sorry guys, I'm back. Long few days. What did I miss?
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Nothing much, to not say nothing.
Except that we might move over to dumpshock since the forum here is slow at the best of times, do you have an account there?
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No, not broken, just busy. I have posted for Echo and Eva on the DS thread, though. Working up sometihng for Cynthia.
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No problem, don't worry about it, I couldn't post on the IC so I had to post somewhere :P
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Ok, posted for Cynthia
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Just registered on the Dumpshock forums, awaiting activation at this point. That being said, I am heading out of town after work today, and probably won't have a post up until late Sunday.
Sorry for delay of game in the Vory vs Merc's situation :(
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Once you clicked on the link in the mail, don't forget to send a mail to request activation!
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Yup! All sent! :)
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By the way, do you want me to post your thread on dumpshock? I have it ready, it seems ok so let me know.
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Yeah, I think I am ready to make the transition, that way I don't have to flip back and forth between two sites. Thanks!
Though, I do have a question for folks ... since I have been out of Shadowrun for long enough, I am struggling on how to spend my Karma ...
I've made a couple purchases that haven't made it to my OP sheet yet, so here's the Chummer version with implants and augmentations, but sans equipment such as armor, weapons and gear.
[spoiler]== Info ==
Street Name: Echo; Benoit Christianson
Name: Unnamed Character
Movement: 18/36
Karma: 75
Street Cred: 7
Notoriety: 0
Public Awareness: 0
Human
Composure: 7
Judge Intentions: 7
Lift/Carry: 7 (15 kg/10 kg)
Memory: 9
Nuyen: 139451
== Priorities ==
Metatype: D - Human or Elf
Attributes: B - 20 Attributes
Special: E - Mundane
Skills: C - 28 Skills/2 Skill Groups
Resources: A - 450,000¥
== Attributes ==
BOD: 6
AGI: 1
REA: 5 (7)
STR: 1
CHA: 2
INT: 5
LOG: 4
WIL: 5
EDG: 5
== Derived Attributes ==
Essence: 0.16
Initiative: 10 (12) + 1d6
Rigger Initiative: 12 + 1d6
Astral Initiative:
Matrix AR Initiative: 12 + 1d6
Matrix Cold Initiative: 5 + DP + 3d6
Matrix Hot Initiative: 5 + DP + 4d6
Physical Damage Track: 15
Stun Damage Track: 11
== Limits ==
Physical: 5
Mental: 6
Social: 4
Securetech PPP: Vitals Kit [-1] (Must be visible)
Astral: 6
== Active Skills ==
Animal Handling : 0 Pool: 1
Armorer : 1 Pool: 5
Automatics : 6 [Submachine Guns] Pool: 8 (10)
Computer : 1 Pool: 5
Con : 1 Pool: 3
Cybercombat : 0 Pool: 3
Cybertechnology : 1 Pool: 5
Demolitions : 1 Pool: 5
Disguise : 2 Pool: 7
Diving : 0 Pool: 5
Electronic Warfare : 1 Pool: 5
Etiquette : 2 [Corporate] Pool: 4 (6)
First Aid : 1 Pool: 5
Forgery : 0 Pool: 3
Free-Fall : 0 Pool: 5
Gymnastics : 1 [Parkour] Pool: 2 (4)
Hacking : 0 Pool: 3
Hardware : 1 Pool: 5
Impersonation : 0 Pool: 1
Instruction : 0 Pool: 1
Intimidation : 1 Pool: 3
Leadership : 0 Pool: 1
Navigation : 1 Pool: 6
Negotiation : 1 Pool: 3
Palming : 2 Pool: 3
Perception : 5 [Visual] Pool: 10 (12)
Performance : 0 Pool: 1
Pilot Ground Craft : 1 [Wheeled] Pool: 8 (10)
Pilot Watercraft : 0 Pool: 6
Pistols : 1 Pool: 2
Running : 1 [Sprinting] Pool: 2 (4)
Sneaking : 2 Pool: 3
Software : 1 Pool: 5
Survival : 1 Pool: 6
Tracking : 1 Pool: 6
Unarmed Combat : 5 [Cyber Implants] Pool: 6 (8)
== Knowledge Skills ==
Alcohol : 1 [Scotch & Whiskey] Pool: 6 (8)
Area Knowledge: Montreal : 1 [Ville St. Laurent] Pool: 6 (8)
English : 5 Pool: 10
French : N Pool: 0
Russian : 1 Pool: 6
Security Tactics : 2 [Rapid Response] Pool: 6 (8)
Small Unit Tactics : 3 [Urban] Pool: 8 (10)
Underworld : 1 [Drugs] Pool: 6 (8)
== Contacts ==
Aisha Chaka al-Baz; Seattle; Renton Office; Street Doc (2, 2)
Ong Jennings; Seattle; Downtown Clinic; Cybersurgeon (6, 1)
Passion DeSimone; Seattle; Redmond Club; Club Dancer (1, 2)
Pedro Mendoza; Seattle; Downtown Hotspot; Fixer (2, 2)
Quentin Raleigh; Seattle; Auburn Office; Thaumaturgic Investigator & Partner (2, 5)
Silvia Osterhagen; Seattle; Downtown; Therapist & Counsellor (1, 6)
Ulyana Khorzikhov; Seattle; Shiawase Complex; Corporate Headhunter (6, 1)
Washington Turner; Boston; Mid-Town; Matrix Intrusion & Surveillance (2, 3)
Yocef Constantineau; Montreal; Ville St. Laurent; Corporate Director; Tetreault (5, 2)
== Qualities ==
Ambidextrous
Amnesia (Surface Loss)
Biocompatability (Cyberware)
Code of Honor (Captives, Civilians, Non-Combatants)
Day Job (20 hrs)
Insomnia (Basic)
Records on File (Shiawase)
Restricted Gear
== Lifestyles ==
Studio Apt; Converted Warehouse Complex 1 months
== Cyberware/Bioware ==
Adapsin
Bone Lacing (Aluminum)
Cybereyes Basic System Rating 1
+Image Link
+Flare Compensation
+Smartlink
Datajack
Obvious Full Arm (AGI 9, STR 8, Physical 10) (Left)
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Any suggestions on where to spend Karma, I am aiming for the role of tank, ie. someone who presents a threat to any enemy groups but can eat damage and such for us.
Now my issue is, and always has been, that magic trumps alot of things in SR. The mage can, through equipment and gear, plus the judicious use of spells buff up his soak totals as high as a street samurai, hence negating a samurai's ability to threaten him physically. How does a samurai buff up his magical defenses in the same way? As that's really Echo's issue, one Manaball and I am soaking with, from what I remember, Willpower only?
Anyways, short of that personal issue, which I typically just overlook and hope to leverage Edge to keep myself standing, what should I be investing in long-term, as far as karma goes?
Thoughts, and opinions would be greatly appreciated. :)
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Done, it's here (http://forums.dumpshock.com/index.php?showtopic=41682)
For direct spell you only resist with Body (if it's a Physical spell) or WIllpower (if it's a Mana spell). But for direct spells, the DV is the hits on the Mage's Spellcasting roll. So it's not too bad, and you certainly won't go down in one hit.
As for your XP, you should improve your agility and strength a bit. If you're worrying about a Mage, a sprint could be a way to get to him fast with a Running check. In addition, more strength would allow you to stack more armour. A higher Agility would allow you to sneak on people, and of course, be more effective with your gun.
Of course you can put points here and there in your skills (Gymnastic, Running and Sneaking come to mind).
New qualities could be really interesting too, even if the cost is doubled. Drug Tolerant for example, to you use drugs (like Kamikaze) safely. If you want to tank, Redliner (CF, p55) seems counter-intuitive. But more strength allows you to get more armour. And better recoil compensation. High Pain Tolerance could be a good idea. If you're worried about mages, Magic Resistance should be considered. Of course, friendly spells are resisted too so it's not all good (though given our mages, maybe that's for the better :P). Natural Athlete is interesting to get to your target faster, but it's not a "get it now" quality. Quick Healer is probably a must have: it's really cheap, and it helps healing the damage you took and since we don't have much downtime, it could be even more important than normal.
Adrenaline Surge is another way to act before anyone else without spending edge, but it's probably a bit expensive. You already have a high perception pool, but the perceptive quality could be useful nonetheless.
So to sum up, I'd increase agility & strength, get new qualities, and raise some skills here and there. Oh and remove Insomnia. Since Echo sleeps in Rowena's arms now, he should be ok (and Insomnia is nasty)
Apart from karma, one thing you could consider is a Synaptic booster. To get it you would have to change some of your existing cyber but from what I see on OP, most of your stuff is Used. Change that and you should get enough Essence hole to get a Synaptic Booster in there. Maybe there are other things to add, but if there's one thing I know less than riggers, it's implants so I can't help much there, sorry ;)
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Careful with the spell Ennui, the gangers would have a perception test with a threshold of Your Spellcasting - Force Spell.
Your best bet here would be to cast it at force 1 with reagents. Unless it's part of the intimidation process of course.
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I'd call it more of a con than intimidation but yeah thats the general idea.
Are you enjoying my story?
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Yeah, it's interesting :)
I'm glad I didn't meet the vampires though, I don't know how Cynthia would have handled that... Even if something tells me that sooner or later... I'll enjoy my "dream" as long as possible I think :P
By the way, Vegas, you around? Zen Gypsy hasn't logged in for a week so I suppose he is drowning in work or something, but since you logged in just today, I'm wondering...
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So are Eva and Echo gone? I haven't seen a post from either one in over a week I think now.
You probably wanted to put that here ^^
Zen Gypsy didn't log in since the 7th (here or on dumpshock), so I'd guess (hope?) he is drowning in work or something.
Vegas however last logged in yesterday, and quite regularly from what I saw when I checked. So I don't know.
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Yes I did mean to put that here. I guess I got confused.
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Where do I find this spell so I can see what it is does?
Street Grimoire, p111
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LOL I do not have access to that right now. Can you please tell me what the spell does?
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Sure:
This set of spells provides the spellcaster with an unusual set of non-lethal tools to distract his enemies by forcing great pleasure upon them. Euphoria envelops the target in the stimulating throes of a great high comparable to an empathogenic drug high or sexual climax.
Many magicians utilize this spell in their private lives, granting willing targets a thrilling ecstasy. However, using this spell on unwilling subjects is considered a criminal act by law enforcement officers in many jurisdiction. Spellcasters known to excessively cast this set of spells may gain an unsavory reputation.
Each net hit scored by the spellcaster applies a –1 dice pool modifier to all of the targets’ actions as they are distracted by the sensation. At the gamemaster’s discretion, a character who suffers a dice pool modifier higher than his Willpower is completely incapacitated and preoccupied. Euphoria affects a single target; Opium Den is an area spell.
It's a Mana spell, Realistic, Single Sense, Area. Resisted by Logic + Willpower.
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Thank you. Let me edit my post before you respond to it.
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Promise, I won't answer on Ennui's thread :p
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I get +2 dice pool on it being an illusion too. I took a little more license with that scene than I normally would but it just felt right,
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I would think that mind probes are a bit of a no no between PCs, but he is not here to say anything at the moment. I am still trying to learn the magic rules. so do you run out of power or can you cast this stuff all day?
I don't see a mention about a mind probe, but:
1) With the illusion running, it's -2d on all spells cast
2) Mind Probe is resisted by Willpower + Logic. With 9d to cast the spell, there wouldn't be a lot of hits, so only the surface thoughts would be sensed (if anything).
3) Mind Probe has a Drain of F, so it's something to take into account
4) Mind Probe is a Touch spell, not a LOS spell.
5) Clout is an indirect spell, so it can be dodged. The drain is only at F-3 so it's not a problem, but with 9d to hit, there won't be many successes. With a Force 6 spell, that's still 6+net hits (AP -6) damage, but it has to hit first.
6) Blast is F drain, so here again, drain starts to be dangerous, especially considering that casting at low force is useless.
7) All of this spellcasting is visible (perception + intuition vs a threshold of 5 - Force of the spell), to say nothing of the huge traces left in the astral
So while in most cases I'm all for handwaving rolls etc. in combat it's important, and especially if you want to play magic gatling.
And should I rename my thread on dumpshock to "Cynthia" alone?
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Thank you for the information. It is a big help when trying to get a handle on the system. It all seems a bit complicated, which is why I have never rolled a mage.
I think it might be best to rename it, yes. I can manage Eva here and am still hoping Echo returns.
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It's complicated if you try to do many things at once ^^
Otherwise it's pretty much "cast spell" "roll resistance" "apply effects" "resist (or not) drain".
But even if the drain is much less than the fade for Technomancer (something I dearly hope to see errated soon), it can quickly be a lot, especially when you cast some spells like Invisibility, Trid Phantasm, and so on. Sure you can cast them at a lower Force, but they become much easier to resist: handwaving those spell is still possible, but as the force of those spells decreases, the more people will resist: the limit on the spellcasting is the force of the spell, whereas there is no limit on the resistance.
Oh and looks like I can't rename... I'll ask an admin then, it's the matter of three clicks anyway.
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Lol Mercy is gonna teach you a lesson if you keep being so "fearless", Ennui.
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Nonsense. My snookums would never hurt their auntie Isla... not unless Sian wished it anyway.
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Anyone heard any updates on what is happening with Dumpshock?
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None.
But I think I'll cry soon :'(
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We might want to carry on here for a bit and then move back when/'if the site comes back?
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I still have the page loaded on my computer, so I can copy the last few messages if you want.
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I still have the page loaded on my computer, so I can copy the last few messages if you want.
At the very least, please do copy that out into a more secure/permanent document, just to be safe ...
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And we have a couple of posts in the Preston thread on email so can just post those and carry on.
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Oh, Creole Community? i've seen that somewhere :o
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Since this is my lodge I may not have rolled enough dice, but you know...
Nope, system-wise it doesn't change anything.
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Oh I thought lodges were automatically aspected to your magic up to their rating...I may have been thinking of 3rd or 4th ed.
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They are aspected...if there already is a background count in the area. It doesn't create the BGC, it only aspects a pre-existing one.
And even if you were aspected to the BGC, all it would do is raise your limit (which is dangerous, since you're more likely to take physical drain)
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*appears*
Reporting back to Tangled Currents and welcome to the new players !
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And welcome back.
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Hi.
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Thanks, glad to be back !
Also hi, Imladir !
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With Lizzie probably about to go to the Cajun town (if I understood right about the coffee producer at least), I decided to check when she was about to get there.
Took me a bit of digging (more than a bit in Lizzie and Rose's cases :o), but I think the current times are:
Helena: 10/06 - ~09h
Echo: 11/06 - ~06h
Eva: 11/06 - ~06h
Cynthia: 12/06 - ~11h
Lizzie: 12/06 - ~21h
Spokane: 13/06 - ~13h
Rose: 16/06 - ~10h
Pure guess for Lizzie and Rose as far as the time is concerned, I didn't have much.
For Lizzie she wakes up at 18h35 the day before so I supposed it's the usual, hence the ~21h
For Rose, I don't have a time at all. I'm only guessing the Oyabun visits in the morning, but it could be noon or even later.
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Thank you for doing that. I keep hoping that Echo will come back, but I have not heard from him for a while.
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Last connection the 28/09, so a while indeed...
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Even if it's been a while, you probably didn't miss that Ennui, but...
The cost of qualities after creation is x2. You took it into account for your Focused Concentration but not Exceptional Attribute which has a cost of 28, not 14.
Try to make a mistake where I'll give you a good news next time, otherwise I'll feel bad ^^
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Whoops, thanks for keeping me honest Imladir.
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Uh oh continuity error?. Special at cajun town 12/6 was crawfish and gumbo with ennui but salmon for imladiir. Tsk tsk, lol
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There's a special at 18h and one at 21h, maybe ^^
Or maybe the menu depends on who's asking, who knows...
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LOL They sold out of the earlier special and had to come up with a second one for later. Now that you know ALL my secrets..........................
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A big welcome back to Grunt. Thank you for returning to the threads.
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I have no idea what skill a matrix search is used with, Computers+Logic or is it intuition?
Computer+Intution, +2d If you're in VR (you need a datajack or trodes for that), with a limit equal to the data processing rating of your device (since it's probably a commlink, it's the device rating of the commlink). Note that if you help someone with a teamwork test, you can only add up to that person's skill rating in dice (and you increase his limit by one), the number of dice added being your number of successes on the test.
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okay so 8D6 in VR max 3 successes to Steves
matrix search teamwork x2 Liston and Mercs (http://orokos.com/roll/455404): 8d6t5 3 8d6t5 1
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Max "Steve's level in Computer", not "Spokane's level in computer"
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Oops, that was a typo, supposed to be a 3.
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Damn, I'm jumping up and down, hoping to get a lot from Tanaka's 'link.
Is it bad?
It's bad isn't it?
I knew it...
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With Johnny's beginning and Grunt's return (and Cynthia's new day ^^), an update:
Grunt: 08/06 - ~18h
Preston: 09/06 - 13h15
Helena: 10/06 - ~09h30
Echo: 11/06 - ~07h
Eva: 11/06 - ~ 07h
Johnny: 12/06 - 19h
Lizzie: 12/06 - ~23h
Cynthia: 13/06 - 06h
Spokane: 13/06 - ~13h
Rose: 16/06 - ~12h
Regarding Grunt, message #212 (http://forums.shadowruntabletop.com/index.php?topic=23771.msg448102#msg448102) put the 8th as the date, but afterwards it came back to 7th in message #222 (http://forums.shadowruntabletop.com/index.php?topic=23771.msg448392#msg448392), not sure which one is correct, but I went with the 8th. Not that it changes much anyway, Grunt is still the last one as far as timeline goes ^^ Which is a shame, could have been fun meeting Nova :D
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Yeah, I messed something up there. It is darned hard to keep all you guys in order.
Still, ten separate threads is not too bad. Missing a few from the original bunch.
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I didn't dig all the way to the inactive threads. Though I guess I should remove Echo...
And don't worry about the date mistakes, it's not that bad. And easy enough to fix if it happens.
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LOL I was not criticizing you not going to the dead ones. I was just moaning about the ones that have fallen away and wondering what I did wrong. I hope everyone still here will tell me if they are having problems with my GM style.
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Probably nothing, just the nature of PBP games where players often drop and you're lucky when you at least get some warning.
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Is it just me or is Mercy MIA? I hope he's okay.
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Still there, there were a couple of answers on dumpshock.
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I am on vacation and was unable to get to this site for a couple of days for some reason. I will try to keep things moving while on the cruise ship as I am supposed to have connectivity there, but the wife is going to limit my game time. Thank you all for your patience.
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Oh, nice, enjoy your cruise!
Where are you going?
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I sailed from Florida to Haiti, Jamaica, and Cozumel, Mexico. It was a good time, but I think I like Disneyworld better.
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Glad to have you back 😊
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Oh, must have been cool :)
Hopefully I'll get to travel abroad soon myself...
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I've just noticed something wrong in the dates.
For Eva, Cynthia, Lizzie, Grunt, Johnny, Seeker, Helena, there is a one day shift between the day number and the normal date (ie Sunday 10th should be Sunday 9th for example).
For Preston, there's a two days shift at the beginning (Wednesday 7th instead of Wednesday 5th) and one day shift the other way around at the end (Saturday 9th instead of Saturday 8th).
Annex has the right date.
Should we fix the dates and keep the days?
The current times would be:
Preston: Saturday 08/06 - 13h45
Grunt: Sunday 09/06 - ~07h
Helena: Sunday 09/06 - ~10h
Eva: Monday 10/06 - 16h30
Johnny: Tuesday 11/06 - 20h32
Lizzie: Wednesday 12/06 - ~01h
Cynthia: Wednesday 12/06 - 13h30
Spokane: Wednesday 12/06 - ~15h
Annex: Wednesday 12/06 - 18h35
Rose: Saturday 15/06 - ~12h
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Sheesh how did spokane get so far ahead of you guys I thought he and I were the last ones to join except for a a few of the new ones.
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Two main reasons:
1) The start dates weren't the same for everyone. The first batch began on the 5th, whereas for Spokane, Lizzie and Cynthia it was the 10th.
2) Posting rates
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Posting rates for sure, and how many posts to go through a section .... With Preston, after six pages of posts on this forum (when we moved back to dumpshock), we were not nearly done with the first day yet. And gradually my posting rate has fallen off -- fortunately we've been able to move subsequent days along with less density of posts, but it has probably worked out to just about the same amount of real-world time for each day in-game.
If it is needed to speed things up to let different threads synchronize eventually, let me know -- having some impetus to get moving would probably be good (right now I've been very much in my own cocoon with Preston with no idea of what is happening in other threads or if larger plots are coming together. I tried following other threads initially, but there are a lot of prolific writers in this game and I had to give that up after a little bit -- so I don't know anything about most of the newer characters, and can barely remember anything about the older ones (there was a doctor (or medic of some sort) who's new clinic was blown half apart, there a driver going on a run (to California) who hadn't really had to do anything yet when I stopped reading, an 'interior decorator' with a murky background who I never really got up to speed on .... I forget now if I read others or not).
I don't know what plans, if any, Mercy has for merging threads? Also not quite sure what Preston can bring to the table to help anyone else -- I'm in the slightly odd position of having had a chance to address some of the demons that were driving the character, but I'll have to re-read his character sheet to see what he's supposed to be good at, and try to recall whatever thoughts I'd had for how he might mesh with a larger group.
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The clinic would probably be for Helena, the "interior decorator" is Eva, both still active (even if there was a big pause for Helena). No idea who the driver is though. There's Rose as a rigger, but she didn't go on a road trip so...
As for the links to the larger plot, there are some between a bunch of characters, at least through some NPCs if not the plot itself (visibly anyway). The two for whom I don't see much are Grunt, Helena and Lizzie. For Lizzie, there is a start, but it's not much and nothing direct. For Grunt, and Helena nothing for now as far as I see it (both were bombed, so there's definitely something, but nothing visible).
Last I heard, the links (at least in duos) was schedule for soon™. Cynthia is probably in good position to link (or at least interact) with a bunch of characters. With Preston through Tanya, with Spokane given his last activities, Eva she already knows (even if she doesn't want to have anything to do with her ^^). Johnny is digging into the same things she is but from a different angle probably, so possible but not that easy for now (and he just started, so it might be too soon to link). Others like Grunt and Annex for example would probably link easily with pretty much anyone, no idea about Helena though.
For others linking with other characters won't be easy. I'm mainly thinking about Lizzie and especially Eva.
As for Preston, through Tanya there are Rose and Cynthia, Annex and Eva but it's more indirect (it would be through Ni Ni Xiaoliu, one a Tanya's contacts), so the possibilities exist ^^ Of course, since all of those are at least almost three days after Preston, it's not easy...
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Heh, jumping three days forward is easy "After a few days of staking out the place, stuff happens!" :D
Although in Preston's case there is a bit of a challenge with that, as he has another booked event to get through before Wednesday (and no, he still doesn't quite understand how he ended up agreeing to go skeet shooting ... ) That could still be narrated in a few lines, but it would be a bit odd.
Not that pairing up has to happen for Preston any time soon, I just don't know what Mercy's plans are, and if there is anything I can do to make them easier.
It was probably Rose I was thinking of. There was cars, PC was hired as part of a small convoy guarding the family of an exec or something like that. There was much vehicle talk, and code-names. They went through one gauntlet of opposition before I gave up trying to keep up with the other threads.
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Boy, thanks for keeping the posts up to date, although I have to say that Helena is actually on Sunday, not Monday. She is visiting the hospital to see some of her friends that were blown up and is supposed to go see the KE guys to give her evidence as to what happened. There was a rigger that was on that trip to California, but he bailed without comment and I have not heard from him since. Annex is brand new and there is another character that will be starting very soon. What a crowd.
I can still work several people in together if others would like that. Some people do post more than others and the time sequence is a bit off due to that, but it can indeed be fixed. Please let me know if some of you would like me to start edging you into groups of two or more. The posting may need to change a bit when in groups, but I am sure that all of you are aware of that.
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Fixed for Helena. As for groups, Cyntha going to Bogota could be the right time for that, but do it like you want, I don't mind either way :)
Well except that if I have to wait days between posts because I'm waiting for the other player, I'll be quite a bit frustrated of course ^^
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Speaking of days, has anyone seen Imladir recently? I haven't seen them for days.
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@Stutterboy You must be thinking of someone else. Imladir post very frequently. That thread is on Dumpshock as Cynthia.
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I know but I sent them a PM and they havent posted in sky for days now.
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I've answered now ^^
Both for the PM and Sky.
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So... Will Spokane and Cynthia meet at the Grainger warehouse?
*Suspenseful music*
I'll take karma bets :D
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That is certainly possible. These threads do seem to intertwine a bit.
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Damn, both forums down, that was depressing...
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For over a day. Frustrating. If you are one on one or in a small group it may be a good idea to exchange backup contact information with your partners. If you feel comfortable doing it. That way even if forums go down things can continue.
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I know that Mercy's mail is around somewhere on this forum. But I don't remember where ^^
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And Dumpshock is back too.
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Anyone find it odd that they both went down about the same time and were both down about the same or is my shadowrun paranoia showing?
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The coincidence is "funny" yeah. Though DS was down longer that this one by at least a day.
Since they don't have much in common, it's probably just a coincidence. At some point yesterday another PBP site I use went down too, I was sure it was a conspiracy, but I didn't find a likely culprit so...
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Was it shadowrun too?
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Nope, a more generic one.
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I can be reached at marisart@yahoo.com.
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I can be reached at Stuttrboy@cox.net
There is no "e"
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Ennui, regarding your project to train Awakened, I thought it could be useful to give some numbers. Not to say it's impossible or anything, just to put things in perspective.
From different official books, we know that there are roughly 1% of the population that is awakened (a percentage in slight augmentation over the years, with big differences depending on the place). Of that pourcent, most aren't "functional": burned out, ignore their nature, etc.
If we get into number, among a population of 1'000'000, we'd get:
Population: 1'000'000
Mundanes: 990'000
Awakened: 10'000
Unaware, burned-out, incompetent: 7'500
Functional: 2'500
Among those 2'500 functional awakened, you have:
Aspected magicians: 1800
-> Conjurers 600
-> Sorcerers 600
-> Enchanters 600
200 Full magicians
500 adepts
-> Among those, 250 are mystic adepts
Those numbers are from this discussion (http://forums.shadowruntabletop.com/index.php?topic=24101.0). Seattle's population is at a bit more than 3 millions in 2075.
Now you're interested in the "unaware" part of the awakened, which for simplicity's sake is a third of the "non functional" awakened, so 2'500 per million. You'd have a pool of 7'500 in all of Seattle to recruit. By no means a small number of course, but it's still 0.25% of the population. In addition to the difficulty to find those people, you'd be in competition with pretty much every AA+ corporation. Given those number, you can't really just assensse everyone you meet (takes time, risky, you probably wouldn't get more than one or two people...if such people are even identifiable by assenssing, which is not guaranteed at all) so you'd need some big scale tests.
I read somewhere (don't remember where, probably Street Grimoire or one of its earlier incarnations) that tests where handed to children in school, to test if they are awakened or not. I suppose you could do something like that, but you'll have to hide that under some other pretense, otherwise you'll quickly get a lot of problems ^^
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Totally Imladir. I was thinking I'd be lucky if I got 5...then again Fate might have something to say about that.
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Fate and a Monty Haul GM, perhaps. I really got to stiffen my game up a bit or you guys will be kings and queens of the world before long.
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It must be something in Mage's DNA, Eva and Lizzie are the only ones who want to conquer a region, Chinatown in one case, the Barrens in the other.
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I'm not trying to conquer Redmond. I'm trying to make it a better place to live and part of that is being able to fight off external threats.
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We have an opportunity to combine the threads for Spokane and Cynthia as they both appear to be planning on investigating the same warehouse at about the same time. I would like to combine the threads, but want the input of the players before setting that up. Are you two interested in working together? If so, we can make it happen and see if it works out. Please give me your impressions.
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Like I said on Dumpshock:
As for Spokane & Cynthia, I don't have any problem with it. He has NPCs with him and I'll still have the Matrix, so I'll be able to keep busy between two answers from him ^^
Though I'd really prefer the thread to be on Dumpshock. I think Stuttrboy has an account here, so it shouldn't be a problem.
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Thanks Imladir. I will wait to see what Stuttrboy says. There are still several game hours before anything would happen and that could take a day or more of RL.
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If you want to combine them i'm fine with that. I can actually post more often I just feel a little guilty when I'm trying to post about once a day on the DaE threads, since that's the majority of the players normal posting rates
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If you want to combine them i'm fine with that. I can actually post more often I just feel a little guilty when I'm trying to post about once a day on the DaE threads, since that's the majority of the players normal posting rates
"À la bonne heure !" as we could say around here.
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Happy New Year to everyone.
@Stuttrboy Do you have an account at DS? I think the combined thread will be there because I like the post speed much better.
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Yeah I have an account on DumpShock
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Cool. We can move you there when we get ready to combine the threads. Thanks.
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Regarding Lizzie's ritual: you realise that a Force 11 ritual means you have to beat a 22 dice pool?
On the plus side, the Lodge doesn't need to be permanent, you can just use 11 reagents, and you have a Force 11 lodge for 11 hours.
You'll spend so many reagents to lower the drain anyway that 11 more or less doesn't change much...
And note that you do not know in advance how much drain you'll take: the drain value is equal to twice the number of hits on the defense roll (so on average, 14P)
So if you expect trouble and go for 10 successes from the ritual (There's 16.31% chances to get 10 or more successes on 22d), so 20P, to reduce it to 2P you'd have to pay 18 x 11 = 196 reagents (so a bit less than 4000 nuyens).
And of course, the main problem is that you have to succeed in casting that ritual. Others can help, but Sian and Glinda are at -2d on their ritual spellcasting roll (not the same tradition) and if I followed correctly, Corbin is an adept so no use here. If they even have ritual spellcasting.
I know numbers shouldn't be that important, but I find it fun to look at the stats in cases like that. So...
In any case, you'd only be able to get a number of dice bonus equal to you ritual spellcasting level, so 2 at the moment.
You'd have at most a pool of 9d6 (Magic 5 + Ritual Spellcasting 2 + Teamwork 2), so 14.33% chances of success only if you post-edge (and pre-edging is not good either, 16.27% chances). Probably best to increase that...
If you have 6, and Glinda + Sian roll decently (probably more thanks to a high Magic rating than proficiency in ritual spellcasting given their particularities...), you'd get +6, for a total of 17d (Magic 5 + Ritual Spellcasting 6 + Teamwork 6)
Now, pre-edging gets you 50.87% chances to succeed, but post-edging you reach 70.64% chances.
If you want to play with the numbers, you can go there: http://anydice.com/program/a42c
Just put the values you want in Magic / Skill / Edge / Force and calculate. Use the Table / "At least" visualisation, it's the easiest to understand, and you want at least 1 net hit.
In any case, limit is not really an issue: even without taking the BGC into account (probably a +1 or +2), you don't have a problem with the limit, since it would be 13 (11 + 2 from teamwork), and there's only a 1.16% chance that the ritual goes that high.
tl;dr: Increase your ritual spellcasting before casting the ritual ^^
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The lodge would negate the BGC anyway.. Thanks for the other info. for some reason I was thinking the spell resisted with just (force) dice not force x2, I knew I would need to boost that, didn't realize by how much though.
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It would do a bit more than that, since it aligns the BGC to you.
Now that I think about it though... It will stay for Glinda and Sian, they will have the malus on their rolls.
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I thought as long as the leader wasn't effected by BGC it wouldn't bother the participants regardless of tradition. That would make it damn near impossible for other traditions to assist in cooperative magic.
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I'd say that's the goal...
Though if you perform the ritual in a place without BGC, then it's not a problem.
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Oh right, the malus is the BGC count not the lodge rating :facepalm: . I'll ask Mercy what the BGC is at my building...a temporary lodge may be called for then.
Hey Mercy what's the BGC at my building?
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BGC is 2 at your building.
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a high powered permanent lodge has it's own advantages
I'm curious about that, do you think about anything more than the barrier rating it implies?
And note that it also has a disadvantage: a Lodge 12 means serious mojo, you could draw unwanted attention there.
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I can shape it to the conours of the building right and they couldn't see it inside the building. It would be obvious to people infiltrating the building but not so much obvious from the general astral plane.
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Of course, it wouldn't be visible from outside the building. But anyone going there purely by curiosity will definitely know something's up there.
By the way, another argument about the temporary lodge:
Then spend a number of days equal to the lodge’s Force dedicating the space, setting up the physical components, building its astral form, setting up barriers, and harmonizing it to your aura. Once you’re done, your magical lodge is up and active.
Given the nature of the play, I suppose it could be reduced a bit, but you're still probably looking at a couple of days doing only that.
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By the way:
Wednesday 12 June 2075 0255 Chinatown Barrens Seattle
I've just seen that you've fixed the date (and on Spokane too), I'll do it too on my thread too then.
Oh and speaking about dates, an update (the last one was on the 09/12):
Preston: Saturday 08/06 - 13h47 (+2m)
Grunt: Sunday 09/06 - 07h85 (+1h)
Helena: Sunday 09/06 - 09h26 (-1h, I had set the hour later than it was on the previous one)
Seeker: Sunday 09/06 - 11h38 (new entry!)
Eva: Monday 10/06 - 17h20 (+50m)
Johnny: Tuesday 11/06 - 21h32 (+1h)
Lizzie: Wednesday 12/06 - 08h15 (+7h)
Spokane: Wednesday 12/06 - 17h22 (+3h)
Cynthia: Wednesday 12/06 - 19h00 (+6h)
Annex: Thursday 13/06 - 20h00 (+26h)
Rose: Saturday 15/06 - ~12h (no change)
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Thank you very much for helping me stay straight on the timing. We may have another new entry in a day or so.
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Crazy ;D
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If you are still taking more people I'm been playing around with a new character =P
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Are you talking to me? You want to give up the one you have or start another?
Maybe you should offer to be an assistant GM for Aria. It is very nice, if quite exhausting.
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Four hours sleep for Lizzie? The day will be hard!
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Lol I mentioned that in the spoilers
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Preston is buying Perfect Time (5 x2 for in-game purchase = 10), and both Con and Perform at 1.
He's getting back to where he was in his bounty hunting days, before emotional turmoil and drugs dulled his edge.
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LOL And here I thought Lizzie was tougher than that. It would have been nice to mess with her with so little sleep.
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If it's on purpose it's on purpose. I'm sure she can deal with it Ennui is a big girl.
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Seducing people and selling drugs with bags under her eyes, yawning every 10 seconds or so and constantly dozing would be a challenge ^^
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She'd probably just make a batch of long haul
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I knew you were playing Shadowrun or tales from the borderlands. You only cackle like that on those two games. Talking about me no less.
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I have no confidence when it comes to running games. Chris got me into playing these games but No way could I run them.
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Stuttrboy, nobody knows who you are talking about .
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But we can assume ^^
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Minor point for Spokane, but he woke up at 2030 in a previous message. The header is two hours late.
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Weird. I thought I mentioned that.
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That's age, the mind is always the first to go ;)
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And I am so old that more than just the mind is already gone. My advice for all of you youngsters is to not get old. It sucks.
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But it beats the alternative I think ^^
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Hum, shouldn't Hikari's sheet be modified to not be a Prime Runner? I don't care much myself given where I am, but it doesn't seem fair to those who just started normally.
Welcome anyway ^^
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Careful with the foci, there's possibility of addiction there.
Oh and from the rules, it takes 1 hour per point of Force to bound a focus. So you should negotiate that with Mercy before doing all three of them, or you'll miss some appointments I think...
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Yeah I don't think I'll have more than one active at a time.
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It's not too bad though, even with all those active. Sure, you'd have to roll for addiction every week, but Logic + Willpower with a threshold of 2 isn't really unbeatable. Especially considering that with your scores you can just buy the two successes.
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I was also thinking about making one of them an Increase Will focus to help with Drain anyway, but I have to buy the spell. I will probably make the first one increased reflexes and will probably have it on all the time.
I'm only bonding one right now, and will probably be initiating before I bond the rest, so it's not going to be a big deal I don't think. Is the bonding process involved I couldn't find anything on it other than time frame. I don't have to be sitting over it an chanting for 5 hours do I?
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Careful with that though, it's highly visible from the Astral.
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and masking will be my first initiation power =D
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And it's probably the case for every initiate. But note that it masks the focus...not the spell itself.
I'll be impossible to know it's sustained thanks to a focus, but the spell will still be visible.
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LOL Crap, it is very apparent that I know so little about magic in this game. Maybe that's why I don't play any mages or adepts.
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I'm sure anyone (especially Imladir) will be happy to answer any questions. I'm happy to go with the flow for the most part.
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I don't have to be sitting over it an chanting for 5 hours do I?
I'm afraid you do in fact.
I'm sure anyone (especially Imladir) will be happy to answer any questions. I'm happy to go with the flow for the most part.
On that subject, note that when I talk about rules, it's about the official ones, I don't mind if they are tweaked a little. Well except when I was planning something based on said rules, then I might be a bit grumpy of course :p
But for the most part, rules simplifications don't bother me, I'm mainly trying to offer the official point of view to allow you to decide how to handle things with some good footing.
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No, I appreciate it to be given the canon. It tells me what is normally possible. Most of the changes I make are for my own purposes. Sian and Glinda are not normal and they obey different rules.
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Monday 11 June 2075 1730 You do not know where
Spokane's header has more than an hour issue now ;)
I suppose the last one came from Eva (and it's Monday 10 by the way ^^)
For Spokane it should be Wednesday 12 June 2075 2116 Jake's Place Redmond Barrens Seattle
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Thank you. I have fixed those errors.
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The hour for Spokane yeah, but not the day nor the place.
And no problem, I did it a few times in my own thread, so I perfectly understand you sometime get a few things mixed up ^^
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Fixed now? LOL
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Looks like it :)
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By the way, are we waiting for something on my side?
Or maybe... No... Am I being punished? That's... That's.... :'(
*Cries pitifuly...while checking from time to time the impact of the tears*
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For Eva:
Speaking of karma, curious I looked a bit at the sheets on OP: Rose's sheet is really out of date (I don't really want to count since the posting of mails is mudding things though ^^), but on Eva it's the opposite, there is too much karma. It's not critical since it's not spent karma, but it's quite a bit:, probably because Vegas counts 1 karma / IC I think. Instead of 70 karma earned in Eva & Cynthia thread, it's 42.5 karma (for 85 IC as of reply #375), and on Eva thread, I didn't check to see if there were OOC posts, but the thread sits at 364 replies so it should be around 182 for Vegas, which translates to 91 karma...and not the full 182.
Since then, you have 66 IC posts.
And for the initial thread, you posted 182. None of those are pure OOC posts.
Which means as of answer #558 (http://forums.shadowruntabletop.com/index.php?topic=24462.msg477830#msg477830) on the Eva & Cynthia thread, you have 182+151=333 IC posts, so 166.5 karma.
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OOC: So I don't want to really be out of character for this but if you want to have Cynthia and I join up I can do that a little easier if I know a general time frame so I can work that into my plot-line.
You have some time, Cynthia will only get there a bit after 2300.
She's got to meet "someone" (probably Tanya) at the nearby Shack at 2300, and after that they'll go the the warehouse which is a block away.
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Ok, that is a lot more reasonable, I was just going through and looking at spending karma and was pretty shocked at how powerful I could get so fast. I'll amend that and prob mark this post, nice to have a count on hand.
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What Imladir says.
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Ok, that is a lot more reasonable, I was just going through and looking at spending karma and was pretty shocked at how powerful I could get so fast. I'll amend that and prob mark this post, nice to have a count on hand.
What I find handy is to put in the character sheet on OP something like
- total karma earned: 67 as of post 138
- karma spent in players: 33
- unspent karma: 34
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I went a step farther, I have the complete list of my karma expenditure on my sheet, that way, no mistakes, in addition to the Chummer version of the sheet.
And I mark all my messages with the post number, that way I just have to increment it each time I post, which makes things a hell of a lot simpler.
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Well, did the Alaskan cold finally catch Mercy in its grip?
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I saw that he posted in a few threads this morning. I hope he is okay.
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-39°C when I wrote the last post.
You can't possibly be "okay" ^^
I also saw a couple of posts these past few days, but nothing much.
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Even the matrix connections slow down in that sort of cold! ;D
I'm (southern) Canadian -- for a lot of cold weather I'm all 'you just need to dress for it, only hassle is how long it takes to put everything on.' But by -30C I begin to get "sure you can dress for it, but it takes ages and you are severely limited in what you can do by all the clothes so it isn't fun at all." But -39C? That just sounds like a whole new level of nasty that I would not be eager to deal with for any length of time.
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For me when it's below 10°C, it's already cold, so...
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Speak of the devil. ::waves at Mercy::
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Sssh, you'll scare him!
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Sorry for the sporadic posting. I am on vacation in Florida, visiting Mickey Mouse and friends. The wife and granddaughter are limiting my posting times, go figure. I think I managed to get a post in for everyone today, but please let me know if I have missed anyone.
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Oh.
Much better than freezing Alaska then.
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Well technically neither Lizzie nor Spokane got one from you "today", but they have in the last 24 hours.
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Speaking about Spokane, try to not go to fast now, you're awfully near 2300, time where Cynthia meets Tanya to go into the warehouse, probably in the same Stuffer Shack you're in.
It would be troublesome to miss each other by an hour or so ^^
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I am trying to watch the timing. I have a plan. Bwahaha.
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*raises hand timidly* I am a bit missed, though to be fair I have nothing to do on weekends so I pretty much respond to everything within a half hour.
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If someone asks why Cynthia has trust issues and why she keeps as much information she has as close as possible, I know exactly how to answer :o
I hope Spokane is not expecting a lot in the way of sharing of information ^^
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Init Roll: 8+1d6 13 Not entirely clear on how the stun condition modifier works with init, so feel free to correct as needed.
For my own reference in the next few posts: a magician can spend a Complex Action to reduce the time required for an astral signature to fade ( Core pg 312). Each complex action spent reduces the time by an hour.
Two questions that are about to be really relevant - does summoning a spirit leave a temporary signature or only while the spirit lasts? Does the fact that an area where a spell took effect also has an astral signature leave a trail of sorts that could be followed to find Renee while I am sustaining the spell?
Since you're not too familiar with Magic rules Mercy, I thought I should help ^^
For initiative, the wound modifier instantly reduces the initiative, but j suppose you already know that.
Now, for Magic:
Summoning does leave a signature, that should last for Force hours, same as the spells. However, that signature is not directly linked to the spirit. It just says "Something happened in the astral here". A spirit not using its powers doesn't leave an astral signature (note that materialisation is a power).
For the sustaining part, it's worse than that, as long as the spell is sustained, the link between Mage and spell is immediate, there is no need at all for an Assenssing roll to find the Mage. The signature left however should only be present at the locations the spell is in effect, and will last for Spell Force hours.
Without Assensing, someone (or something) in the astral will only know that something happened at the point the signatures were left. In addition, the unique imprint of the creature responsible will be known. If the one perceiving the signature sees the 'culprit' she will recognise her (in the astral of course) with 2 successes on an Assenssing roll.
Now with an Assenssing roll on the signature, it's possible to learn much more, like why there is a signature here (It's a spell, an active focus, a spirit used a power, etc) with 2 successes, the approximate Force of the effect (higher, lower or equal to your Magic rating) with 3 successes, the exact Force of the effect, and details class of its nature (fire spirit power, manipulation spell, health preparation, etc) with 4 successes.
Like I said earlier, a magical signature fades in Force hours.
Shouldn't be important for now, but the spirit must stay in a range of Summoner's Magic x 100m otherwise it counts as a remote service, which means the spirit disappears as soon as it's done.
From the spirit it's possible to find the Summoner (whose aura is on the spirit), but it takes hours of careful track in the astral. Not something important either at the moment I think, but useful to keep in mind.
At Force 3, the spirit has an Initiative of 6+ 3d6 in the astral. It will need a Complex action to materialise anywhere, so it can truly act at its second IP only. Its initiative then becomes 8 + 2d6, so you take the initiative roll when it was in the astral, add 2 and subtract 1d6. At the next turn (and as long as it's materialised, just roll the 8 + 2d6)
At Force 3, it has a pool of 7d to engulf its target. If it succeeds, it deals 6S, AP-3 damage at each of its IP, resisted normally by the target (Body + Armour). The victim cannot do anything else than try to disengage with a Strength + Body vs 6d roll. (Engulf rules are p396).
Other pertinent information for now is that the spirit has 8d for its defence, and soaks damage with 6d and three auto successes. No edge unless Hikari lends one, and 9 boxes to its condition monitors.
Now, more general considerations:
The spirit probably doesn't know what a sniper is. It's a water spirit, it probably isn't even able to recognise weapons. At Force 3, with 3 in its mental stats, it will of course be able to recognise them for what they are once used, but knowing what a sniper is is probably far from its knowledge. Plus it would need to be materialised to even see the weapon, which would lead to quite a few problems, since...
Obvious magic like a materialised spirit will raise the amount of panic and subsequent heat through the roof.
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And... I've got a new respect for Stuffer Shacks Hosts...
Editing minutes of video files in a Host is not a good idea.
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Stuttrboy has an account on DS yep. So you can start whenever you want.
I even already have my own intro written (since yesterday in fact :o )
Maybe we should start a new OOC thread there too, now that except Lizzie and Eva all the other (active) threads are on DS. And this site's timeouts are exhausting...
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With Cynthia's & Spokane's threads merging, time for a new timeline update!
Previous one was on the 09/01
Preston: Saturday 08/06 - 17:15 (+3h28m)
Grunt: Sunday 09/06 - 07:85 (no change)
Helena: Sunday 09/06 - 09:26 (no change)
Seeker: Sunday 09/06 - 11:38 (no change)
Eva: Monday 10/06 - 19:55 (+2h35m)
Johnny: Tuesday 11/06 - 21:50 (+18m)
Lizzie: Wednesday 12/06 - 21:50 (+13h35m)
Spokane: Wednesday 12/06 - 23:00 (+5h38)
Cynthia: Wednesday 12/06 - 23:00 (+4h)
Annex: Friday 14/06 - 12:49 (+16h49)
Rose: Saturday 15/06 - ~12h (no change)
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I'll continue my monologue on this thread to curse Spokane.
So Spokane, consider yourself cursed!
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Why are you cursing me?
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Because while Spokane is being difficult, I can't play, isn't that sad!?
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Stuttrboy can be one of the most infuriating stubborn people you are likely to ever meet. This is not him being difficult. LOL
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Maybe, but I'm cursing Spokane, not Stuttrboy, the distinction is important!
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Point taken
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You have to be careful when you do this kind of things after all.
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So...New common thread?
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I am pretty sure that Spokane will bite at this, but if not there is no need for a new common thread.
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*Cries*
I thought I should quickly go to 2300, I should have gone for just one hour of sleep instead and do some stuff in the meantime :'(
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There, there. I am sure that he will have mercy on you soon enough and say yes.
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I've said yes but I'm negotiating, we can start the joined posts anytime you want.
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I think now would be the perfect time myself :p
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He is thiiiiiiiis close. Tanya wants to work out how many people he has and is bringing along. Once I have the answer, I will get the joined thread going.
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*Sighs*
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Mercy - I havent posted on dumpshock, since it was down before I went out of town on vacation, and is down now that I am back. I will keep checking.
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It was back online for a few hours earlier in the week, but it didn't last long :/