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Title: Upcoming Products / Releases
Post by: AJCarrington on <01-31-18/1235:43>
Pinged Jason earlier this week and he passed along some info:

Upcoming Releases
Dark Terrors - print release upcoming

SR5 Core Rulebook - reprint w/ errata (hardcover)

Toxic Alleys - stand alone adventure that has loose ties to the Denver adventures and Dark Terrors (to help bring some chaos to DeeCee)

Pipeline
Street Lethal (advanced combat book): more weapons, including some future tech, info on corp security and unconventional fighting forces, and new maneuvers for tactical combat
 
Kill Code (advanced Matrix book: all the stuff slated for the technomancer ebook--complex forms, streams, alternate TM builds, and more--as well as decker gear and qualities, a guide to running the Matrix, and other useful stuff for Matrix-based shadowrunning

Better than Bad ("hooding" book): focused on how to run with a conscience, and provide info on Pretoria in Azania
 
I also asked him re the potential for elf / dwarf books, but nothing approved or in process, at the moment.
Title: Re: Upcoming Products / Releases
Post by: firebug on <01-31-18/1314:18>
Wow, finally something for TMs has a title at least.  Here's hoping it actually gives most of the book to TMs and doesn't reveal that "all the stuff slated" ends up being "well they only got around to a few things scrawled on a napkin".  Any word on if it will include Paragons?

I'm excited for Street Lethal though, it sounds like it could have a lot of fun junk in it.  And Better Than Bad is probably gonna be the kind of thing that inspires me to want to start an entirely new campaign.
Title: Re: Upcoming Products / Releases
Post by: AJCarrington on <01-31-18/1424:47>
Indeed!

I'm also happy to see another print run of the core rulebook, especially given that it will have the errata Patrick and team have been working on for some time now. Jason also indicated that there will be variant covers that they'd be sharing with us at some point...always like to see new pictures. ;D
Title: Re: Upcoming Products / Releases
Post by: belaran on <01-31-18/1433:28>
 Thanks AJCarrington for this update! It's awesome to have some visibility on the coming books :)

And thanks for the info on the elf/dwarf book. I had understood, it was a "done deal", so it's good to know, it is only planned for now. But if it does happen and it is as good as the Complete Trog, it will be great!

(PS: If you happen to have any update on the Shadows of Morrocco  & 10 AI books that has been announced for a quite while, that'll be nice to have too :) ).
Title: Re: Upcoming Products / Releases
Post by: &#24525; on <01-31-18/1755:01>
I think those two are just dead in the water.
Title: Re: Upcoming Products / Releases
Post by: AJCarrington on <01-31-18/1858:25>
I’ve not heard anything about them (or other e-releases, for that matter), but will let you know if/when I do.
Title: Re: Upcoming Products / Releases
Post by: Prime Mover on <02-01-18/1617:38>
Any chance we'll see HV weapon rules or cyber zombies in street lethal?
Title: Re: Upcoming Products / Releases
Post by: Backgammon on <02-01-18/1748:08>
Shadows of Morocco is the next ebook scheduled to be out. That being said, no ETA.
Title: Re: Upcoming Products / Releases
Post by: AJCarrington on <02-01-18/2002:00>
Thanks for the update!

@Prime Mover - not sure, will see what I can find out
Title: Re: Upcoming Products / Releases
Post by: Wakshaani on <02-01-18/2052:45>
Thanks AJCarrington for this update! It's awesome to have some visibility on the coming books :)

And thanks for the info on the elf/dwarf book. I had understood, it was a "done deal", so it's good to know, it is only planned for now. But if it does happen and it is as good as the Complete Trog, it will be great!

(PS: If you happen to have any update on the Shadows of Morrocco  & 10 AI books that has been announced for a quite while, that'll be nice to have too :) ).

10 AIs was finished a few years back, but was held off for timing reasons. Then we got a new edition, so the rules had to be redone. In holding again.HOPEfully, I'll be able to update it with KillCode as a shoulder-rubbing release. Lots of plotlines tied up in that lil' book. Mind you, I need to go update it again sometime, to take Things into account...
Title: Re: Upcoming Products / Releases
Post by: TonyK on <02-01-18/2115:08>
I feel like Charlie Brown kicking the football, waiting for the TM book. :)

(https://media1.tenor.com/images/c8409669e51f412dc9658f45e9bdfcd8/tenor.gif)
Title: Re: Upcoming Products / Releases
Post by: &#24525; on <02-02-18/0232:38>
Spot on reference +1
Title: Re: Upcoming Products / Releases
Post by: Mirikon on <02-02-18/1301:45>
Sadly, Charlie Brown is more likely to actually kick that ball than we are to get the rewrite TMs need. At this rate, it'll probably be a chapter that is 75% fluff and has two new echoes and a handful of complex forms that do nothing to address the painfully obvious major structural problems facing TMs since they decided to get nostalgic with the Matrix.
Title: Re: Upcoming Products / Releases
Post by: AJCarrington on <02-02-18/1359:47>
While I don't have any insider info on the changes/updates for TMs, it is quite likely that the people doing the writing behind the are aware of the issues and will be trying to address.
Title: Re: Upcoming Products / Releases
Post by: Crimsondude on <02-02-18/1818:51>
While I don't have any insider info on the changes/updates for TMs, it is quite likely that the people doing the writing behind the are aware of the issues and will be trying to address.
Nope. Sorry. They've been living in a cave. On Mars. With their eyes closed and their fingers in their ears.
Title: Re: Upcoming Products / Releases
Post by: PiXeL01 on <02-02-18/1906:52>
One problem this edition has had since its beginning is the difference of vision between those with power and the fans and in some cases writers. Longtime fans would say the company is not loyal to the history and fluff any longer and will discard anything that doesn’t support the company’s vision.

But I guess that’s an issue every long running franchise faces. Any time a series is rebooted, a spin off is created, or a remake is produced the longtime fans make their appearance known.
Title: Re: Upcoming Products / Releases
Post by: PMárk on <02-02-18/1929:01>
One problem this edition has had since its beginning is the difference of vision between those with power and the fans and in some cases writers. Longtime fans would say the company is not loyal to the history and fluff any longer and will discard anything that doesn’t support the company’s vision.

Could you elaborate on that, please? What parts do you feel they abandoned?

Admittedly, I'm fairly new around SR (started playing it and reading the books a bit over a year), but I somewhat got  acquainted with 3e and 5e side-by-side. 3e, because that was what we played and 5e, because I wanted to know the latest version and because of the possibility of a latter switch to that. To be fair, I feel 5e is quite in-line with 3e, aside from the obvious things, like the Matrix, but that's okay. I don't feel it's being unfaithful to the setting and story, at this point, based on the books I read this far. Honestly, I like it, too much recent editions of old rpgs indeed abandoned the feel of the original settings, I don't feel 5e is one of them. I won't call it nostalgia, since, I'm new to it, i just like that style better. 

However, due to the above reasons, I totally skipped 4e, so there's that. It could influence my kinda lack of ire regarding technomancers, for example. 
Title: Re: Upcoming Products / Releases
Post by: firebug on <02-02-18/2004:48>
Technomancers have struggled from the release of 5th edition due to a number of problems.  In 4th edition, they had a few features that made them broken--  The way the matrix worked at the time meant that any device slaved to a technomancer's "bionode" was literally unhackable by anything other than a technomancer.  So in 5th edition, they nerfed the hell out of them (despite the fact that the very changes they made to the matrix in general fixed all the problems with technomancers already!) resulting in an archetype that was incredibly resource-heavy in character creation, and couldn't fill the same role that deckers could (as the matrix was designed with deckers in mind, and TMs were added as a damn afterthought because they existed already).

To show what I mean when I say "resource heavy", think of the Priority System.

A decker needs a lot of money, high LOG, moderate INT, and a decent number of skills.

A technomancer needs less money, but can't dump money the way that a decker can dump MAG/RES because they still need gear like every runner does.  But the TM does need to invest in MAG/RES as well.

A technomancer also needs more attributes.  In addition to LOG for skills, a TM's mental attributes become their limits on the matrix.  Attack and Sleaze are the most important and most often-used limits, so CHA and INT need to be high.  WIL is firewall, your defense attribute, in addition to being one of the two attributes used to resist Fading, and thus can't be skimped on either.  Not to mention, a TM will take a lot more Stun then a decker.

Skill-wise, the TM needs just as many skills as the decker, and then needs even more for Compiling, Registering, and/or Decompiling.

So this is all a much bigger investment and it's a lot harder to balance, but if they're just as good it's no big deal.  But...  The matrix was designed around deckers.  Deckers have higher dice pools than TMs because they are able to use augmentation to boost their LOG (and have more attribute points to spare).  As well, many cyberprograms a decker can get for the piddly cost of 250¥ are required to do basic matrix things like cause biofeedback damage.  A TM cannot do those things unless they spend 13+ karma, which is an absolutely massive amount for such an incredibly cheap item.  Then you consider that TMs cannot slave any devices to their Living Persona, and so can't protect their gear (or their team's gear) as well.  Then you factor in that a TM takes Stun damage whenever they would take Matrix damage.  This means not only do they fall unconscious instead of being bricked, but it means matrix combat will cause Wound Penalties (which doesn't happen through a cyberdeck) making them even worse at it.  Finally, because a TM doesn't have the money and wants to avoid lowering their Essence, they can't use augmentation to help them fill non-matrix rolls, have no way to boost their Initiative outside of drugs, and are generally worthless in a fight.  Unless you wanna spend even more of your precious skillpoints and little money on drones.

And this is all for...  What?  Complex Forms?  They are all mediocre, and until errata, had hideously high Fading values that basically killed you if you wanted to accomplish anything with them.  Sprites are likewise underwhelming, as their dice pools are often even lower than the TM's.  A chargen decker will usually have 12 in most skills, and 14+ in the ones they use a lot.  A F6 Sprite will have 12 in its skills and can usually only use 2 or 3 of them.  They blow through Tasks quickly and so cannot be relied upon for most extended hacking, and the marks a Sprite gets are not shared with the TM, meaning they can't help you get into hosts or download files.

It sucks.

It's been years, and technomancers have gained almost nothing in the books that have come out.  Data Trails promised to fix the issues with TMs, and instead offered about 4 pages of awful Complex Forms and even worse Echoes that hardly added anything worthwhile, let alone fix any of their existing problems.  The book then continued to ravish deckers with new toys and mechanics, and an entirely new system that...  Oh!  It needs you to have a certain cyberprogram to do any of it!  Meaning 250¥ for deckers, and 13+ karma for TMs.

Someone came on to the forums and said she was going to begin working on the supplemental book that TMs needed, to include fixes and all the material from 4th edition that was just never included in 5th edition (like the Technomancer-equivalent of Mentor Spirits).  She made the first post, and then never posted again, and said almost nothing for years save for a twitter post about how she somehow misunderstood a coworker's joke so badly that she genuinely thought she'd been fired on the spot.
Title: Re: Upcoming Products / Releases
Post by: PiXeL01 on <02-02-18/2053:38>

Could you elaborate on that, please? What parts do you feel they abandoned?
 

I came into SR around the same time as SR2 kicked off, played through SR3 and left because SR4 changed the rule set completely, only to return with SR5 and loving it.

One example of disagreement in vision is the Shapeshifters. All of a sudden they lost regeneration and allergies although they have had that since SR2.
Title: Re: Upcoming Products / Releases
Post by: AJCarrington on <02-03-18/0801:51>
Pretty much what I figured  ;)
Title: Re: Upcoming Products / Releases
Post by: Mirikon on <02-03-18/1148:39>
While I don't have any insider info on the changes/updates for TMs, it is quite likely that the people doing the writing behind the are aware of the issues and will be trying to address.
Oh, there are enough writers on the forums here and we've been bitching loud enough that I'm sure they are aware of the issues. Whether they'll be given the word count and latitude to actually FIX those issues, especially since some of them would basically require a full rewrite of TMs in general? This I'm not so confident of.
Title: Re: Upcoming Products / Releases
Post by: Finstersang on <02-03-18/1210:35>
And to add insult to in injury, there a numerous spells out there (as if that archetype wasn´t powerfull enough!) with effects that scream "KOMPLEX FORM" at your face, like analyze device, vehicle mask, pulse...
I mean, every other book offered a couple of spells, adept powers, augmentations, gear... Would it have been such a hazzle to add a few Echoes or Complex Forms as well, especially for the more espionage-centred supplements? Anyway, I´m giving you the benefit of the doubt that something good might come out of this.
Title: Re: Upcoming Products / Releases
Post by: AJCarrington on <02-03-18/1358:34>
Oh, there are enough writers on the forums here and we've been bitching loud enough that I'm sure they are aware of the issues. Whether they'll be given the word count and latitude to actually FIX those issues, especially since some of them would basically require a full rewrite of TMs in general? This I'm not so confident of.

Fair points; I choose to be more optimistic ;D
Title: Re: Upcoming Products / Releases
Post by: Mirikon on <02-04-18/1122:03>
Oh, there are enough writers on the forums here and we've been bitching loud enough that I'm sure they are aware of the issues. Whether they'll be given the word count and latitude to actually FIX those issues, especially since some of them would basically require a full rewrite of TMs in general? This I'm not so confident of.

Fair points; I choose to be more optimistic ;D
You're a good man, Charley Brown. I think Lucy has the football ready for you.
Title: Re: Upcoming Products / Releases
Post by: AJCarrington on <02-04-18/1209:55>
We’ll just have to wait and see. 8)
Title: Re: Upcoming Products / Releases
Post by: PiXeL01 on <03-28-18/0951:17>
I hope all the examples will be fixed too before the reprint.
Title: Re: Upcoming Products / Releases
Post by: AJCarrington on <03-28-18/1352:47>
I would think so...plan is to capture all the errata and such for the reprint.
Title: Re: Upcoming Products / Releases
Post by: HiddenBoss on <04-02-18/0515:34>
I hope they got to the matrix behind closed doors, by raw, the matrix should not even work at all.

"If there is a Noise Rating from a situation that is greater than the item’s Device Rating, not including distance, the item temporarily loses its wireless functionality" 421p
as General appliances falls under DR1, it can't work in the Sprawl downtown,

and i given up on material links being used in place of spotters making a come back.
Title: Re: Upcoming Products / Releases
Post by: Stainless Steel Devil Rat on <04-03-18/1455:07>
I hope they got to the matrix behind closed doors, by raw, the matrix should not even work at all.

"If there is a Noise Rating from a situation that is greater than the item’s Device Rating, not including distance, the item temporarily loses its wireless functionality" 421p
as General appliances falls under DR1, it can't work in the Sprawl downtown,

and i given up on material links being used in place of spotters making a come back.

That's a simple fix.  The language just needs to say "If there is a Noise Rating resulting solely from Static greater than the item's Device Rating..."  Of course, publishing errata is largely more difficult than just making a post in the forum.  They'd probably also have to errata Jammers go from emitting untyped Noise to specifically Static Noise.
Title: Re: Upcoming Products / Releases
Post by: lokii on <04-05-18/0300:10>
I have noticed that Prime Missions 3 and 4 have still not been published (though PM 5 is already available). Any idea whether they will come out at all?
Title: Re: Upcoming Products / Releases
Post by: AJCarrington on <04-05-18/0738:07>
I'm in the process of putting together an update...these didn't hit the list, but will ask.
Title: Re: Upcoming Products / Releases
Post by: HiddenBoss on <04-14-18/1356:12>
Put his ear to the ground, (anything new?)
Title: Re: Upcoming Products / Releases
Post by: AJCarrington on <04-14-18/1532:34>
Yep...should have an update out later today.
Title: Re: Upcoming Products / Releases
Post by: AJCarrington on <04-15-18/1317:43>
Apologies for the delay in getting this out.

Latest and greatest from the product pipeline:

In development:

Looks like we have a pretty solid set of releases over the next several months :)
Title: Re: Upcoming Products / Releases
Post by: HiddenBoss on <04-15-18/1743:12>
I take it you not got any idea when kill code will be out?
Title: Re: Upcoming Products / Releases
Post by: kyoto kid on <04-15-18/1952:29>
...any idea when the PDF version of Street Lethal will be available?  Just checked DrivethruRPG and nothing there yet. Usually the PDF version releases before the dead tree one.
Title: Re: Upcoming Products / Releases
Post by: Marcus on <04-15-18/2233:53>
...any idea when the PDF version of Street Lethal will be available?  Just checked DrivethruRPG and nothing there yet. Usually the PDF version releases before the dead tree one.

^^^^^^^

Keep the dead tree version, the pdf is all I desire.
Title: Re: Upcoming Products / Releases
Post by: Marzhin on <04-16-18/1726:36>
Thanks for the update AJ :)
Title: Re: Upcoming Products / Releases
Post by: AJCarrington on <04-17-18/1426:18>
...any idea when the PDF version of Street Lethal will be available?  Just checked DrivethruRPG and nothing there yet. Usually the PDF version releases before the dead tree one.
I poked Jason on this a couple of times...couldn't get him to bite ;)

My GUESS is that we should see a digital release sometime in late May...but that could be wishful thinking on my parts as much as anything else.
Title: Re: Upcoming Products / Releases
Post by: Marcus on <04-17-18/1733:15>
...any idea when the PDF version of Street Lethal will be available?  Just checked DrivethruRPG and nothing there yet. Usually the PDF version releases before the dead tree one.
I poked Jason on this a couple of times...couldn't get him to bite ;)

My GUESS is that we should see a digital release sometime in late May...but that could be wishful thinking on my parts as much as anything else.

Thanks for Asking AJ, just let Jason know any time ya'll are ready to sell that book, I'm ready and eager to buy it.
Title: Re: Upcoming Products / Releases
Post by: kyoto kid on <04-17-18/2156:27>
...yes thank you.  I purchase the PDFs as for me it is difficult to lug 20 or so Kilos of books around to each session (as I have serious bone & joint arthritis) compared to a lightweight slim notebook.  Some people in my missions group say they don't like them but I've been able to get around finding the information I need little trouble.  At home I have a display that I can rotate 90° to view an entire page.
Title: Re: Upcoming Products / Releases
Post by: AJCarrington on <05-04-18/2332:27>
From the blog (http://www.shadowruntabletop.com/2018/05/new-adventure-core-sr5-rulebook-back-in-print-all-sorts-of-fun-to-be-had/), list up of updates in the new printing of the core rule book can be found here (http://www.shadowruntabletop.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/SR5-Core-Book-Errata-2018.pdf).
Title: Re: Upcoming Products / Releases
Post by: &#24525; on <05-05-18/0036:38>
Woah a post to the main page. How strange.
Title: Re: Upcoming Products / Releases
Post by: The Tekwych on <05-05-18/0045:02>
Which printing has the new errata? Are we on 5th printing?
Title: Re: Upcoming Products / Releases
Post by: tasti man LH on <05-05-18/0154:58>
Wait, is this post just announcing the SR5 corebook reprint or is it actually available to be purchased?
Title: Re: Upcoming Products / Releases
Post by: Redwulfe on <05-05-18/0210:30>
We just received the books in our store and the bingeing looks good. It is the 5th corrected printing.
Title: Re: Upcoming Products / Releases
Post by: Xenon on <05-05-18/0437:57>
http://www.shadowruntabletop.com/2018/05/new-adventure-core-sr5-rulebook-back-in-print-all-sorts-of-fun-to-be-had/

...list up of updates in the new printing of the core rule book can be found here (http://www.shadowruntabletop.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/SR5-Core-Book-Errata-2018.pdf).
Wait... what??

This list does not include the official 4 page SR5 errata changes such as removing Herding and Lockpicking because they are not skills in SR5, correction to auto soft prices, crack file no longer listed as both a sleaze and an attack matrix action etc etc..?
Title: Re: Upcoming Products / Releases
Post by: AJCarrington on <05-05-18/0929:08>
I suspect that list details the changes since the last printing. Neither Herding or Lockpicking are listed as skills in the Master Index edition (though there do seem to be some references to Lockpicking in the character builds); as well, crack file is listed as an attack action only in the MI.

Haven't see the digital release, so can't really say for certain.
Title: Re: Upcoming Products / Releases
Post by: ShadowMaster on <05-05-18/1133:05>
I suspect that list details the changes since the last printing. Neither Herding or Lockpicking are listed as skills in the Master Index edition (though there do seem to be some references to Lockpicking in the character builds); as well, crack file is listed as an attack action only in the MI.

Haven't see the digital release, so can't really say for certain.

I have the pdf for MI and crack file is an attack
Title: Re: Upcoming Products / Releases
Post by: Jack_Spade on <05-07-18/1306:00>
Just noticed, the German version of Deadly Shadows is already announced for June:
https://pegasusshop.de/?thisoperationid=4&Action-Display-Detailansicht=45064G
Title: Re: Upcoming Products / Releases
Post by: AJCarrington on <05-08-18/1403:23>
Wondering if this is the German equivalent of Street Lethal?
Title: Re: Upcoming Products / Releases
Post by: Marzhin on <05-08-18/1421:17>
Wondering if this is the German equivalent of Street Lethal?

Judging by the blurb describing it as a « combat rulebook », it seems likely.
Title: Re: Upcoming Products / Releases
Post by: Opti on <05-08-18/1533:22>
Yeah, this is just the German version of the upcoming Street Lethal.
Title: Re: Upcoming Products / Releases
Post by: HiddenBoss on <05-09-18/1558:14>
And it out before we get it from what i hearing..... They are making CGL look bad...
Any one want to bet they get more stuff and it better edited?
Title: Re: Upcoming Products / Releases
Post by: AJCarrington on <05-10-18/1323:40>
Street Lethal is being printed now (per JH on FB).
Title: Re: Upcoming Products / Releases
Post by: adzling on <05-10-18/1430:53>
this is the only book i've been excited for in a lonnnng time.

wonder when the PDF will drop on drivethru?
Title: Re: Upcoming Products / Releases
Post by: tequila on <05-10-18/1448:17>
It might beat the 5th printing Core Rule Book PDF to drivethru. :D
Title: Re: Upcoming Products / Releases
Post by: AJCarrington on <05-10-18/1932:33>
It might beat the 5th printing Core Rule Book PDF to drivethru. :D
I doubt that, but stranger things have happened... ::)
Title: Re: Upcoming Products / Releases
Post by: lokii on <05-11-18/1747:42>
Shouldn't the news section of the forum be updated, now that Dark Terrors, Toxic Alleys etc. have been released?
Title: Re: Upcoming Products / Releases
Post by: adzling on <05-11-18/1829:05>
haha you sweet summer child Lokii ;-)
Title: Re: Upcoming Products / Releases
Post by: ShadowMaster on <05-11-18/2142:54>
That's like asking when will we get an official announcement in that area of the forums about a new release happening. Have we had one in the last 6 releases?
Title: Re: Upcoming Products / Releases
Post by: Mirikon on <05-12-18/0019:27>
Shouldn't the news section of the forum be updated, now that Dark Terrors, Toxic Alleys etc. have been released?
Oh bless your heart.

But seriously, the last time they tried to update things, we went through about a year where the forum was down more often than it was up, and when it was up it wasn't working right, and then sometimes they might get it working only to have to roll it back a month or two when something else breaks...

You're better off hoping for an honest politician.
Title: Re: Upcoming Products / Releases
Post by: lokii on <05-12-18/0813:22>
You are telling me, updating that list will take the forum down? o_O So basically this is the new: http://www.shadowruntabletop.com/products/upcoming-products/

You don't understand: I have default javascript off. So to me it's an actual useful list. Just--if not updated--its usefulness rapidly decreases. I advertised that newsfader on reddit. Oh ghost, have I betrayed the trust of my upvoters?
Title: Re: Upcoming Products / Releases
Post by: AJCarrington on <05-12-18/0913:51>
As others have alluded to, CGL is not the most...proactive...when it comes to announcing upcoming products/releases.
Title: Re: Upcoming Products / Releases
Post by: lokii on <05-12-18/1324:42>
Frankly, I was under the impression you would be able to update the newsfader. That's why I asked here. Insidious nudging. ;) Guess I was mistaken.
Title: Re: Upcoming Products / Releases
Post by: Marcus on <05-12-18/1722:25>
The forum works and everything seems to look good release wise, I for one am grateful for that.
Title: Re: Upcoming Products / Releases
Post by: Marzhin on <05-22-18/1825:06>
According to Jason on the facebook page (https://www.facebook.com/shadowruntabletopgame/posts/10156443874024591), something big will be announced tomorrow.

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Big Shadowrun news coming tomorrow! Be ready to be excited!

And before anyone asks: No, it's not a new edition of the RPG. jmh
Title: Re: Upcoming Products / Releases
Post by: neomerlin on <05-22-18/2308:20>
Are the new printings of the core book actually available? Do we have a street date? I've been looking online but everybody appears to just be selling the original printing with the original cover art. I can't tell if there's a digital version of the new printing exists, yet, either.

Finding Shadowrun books in FLGS around here is like finding hen's teeth and before I ask if the new editions can be ordered in, I'd like to be sure it's actually available.
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Post by: Redwulfe on <05-22-18/2310:22>
I own a store in Central IL, We have the new printing on our shelf. They are available.
Title: Re: Upcoming Products / Releases
Post by: neomerlin on <05-23-18/0030:07>
I own a store in Central IL, We have the new printing on our shelf. They are available.
You're the best. Thanks.
Title: Re: Upcoming Products / Releases
Post by: Beta on <05-23-18/1146:30>
Just looking through the comments to the 'big announcement tomorrow' post, I found the following from JMH:

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As it turns out, that should be going to press this week, but that's not the announcement! jmh
(where "that" = "the new matrix splat book")

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That’s not the announcement, but look for e-release of Street Lethal soon! Origins attendees might be able to pick up physical copies … jmh

Title: Re: Upcoming Products / Releases
Post by: AJCarrington on <05-23-18/1932:39>
For those who didn’t see the post in the main board, CGL has launched a KS campaign for Sprawl Ops (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/450703636/shadowrun-sprawl-ops-boardgame?ref=discovery&term=catalyst)
Title: Re: Upcoming Products / Releases
Post by: HiddenBoss on <05-27-18/1741:13>
I think a lot of people are waiting on the kill code news
Title: Re: Upcoming Products / Releases
Post by: AJCarrington on <05-28-18/0843:48>
I know I am, but nothing more to share at this time.
Title: Re: Upcoming Products / Releases
Post by: HiddenBoss on <06-18-18/0612:20>
Well Street Lethal is out and i hear it gotten worse in editing
Title: Re: Upcoming Products / Releases
Post by: carmachu on <06-18-18/2130:03>
Quuck question. Is run and gun out of print permanently or will it come back in print? I cant seem to find a dead tree version anywhere.
Title: Re: Upcoming Products / Releases
Post by: AJCarrington on <06-19-18/0701:05>
Not sure, though I suspect it will be reprinted. I’ll ask.

Aside, Jason was interviewed at Origins and a couple of tidbits:

 - Kill Code has been sent to printers...expect copies on hand for GenCon
 - No Future is in development/being written. Sounds like it will be focusing on street culture/society...a new version if Attitude.

Video here:

http://gamer-goggles.com/blog/origins-game-fair-2018-event-coverage-3-jason-hardy-talks-shadowrun-13358/ (http://gamer-goggles.com/blog/origins-game-fair-2018-event-coverage-3-jason-hardy-talks-shadowrun-13358/)
Title: Re: Upcoming Products / Releases
Post by: tequila on <06-19-18/1055:48>
Looks like Street Lethal beat the 5th printing. :D

It might beat the 5th printing Core Rule Book PDF to drivethru. :D
I doubt that, but stranger things have happened... ::)
Title: Re: Upcoming Products / Releases
Post by: Crimsondude on <06-20-18/0021:36>
- No Future is in development/being written. Sounds like it will be focusing on street culture/society...a new version if Attitude.

Or ...

;)
Title: Re: Upcoming Products / Releases
Post by: Marzhin on <06-23-18/0642:58>
- No Future is in development/being written. Sounds like it will be focusing on street culture/society...a new version if Attitude.

Or ...

;)

Something akin to a new version of the Sprawl Survival Guide? With maybe a focus on the punk aspect of cyberpunk? :)
Title: Re: Upcoming Products / Releases
Post by: AJCarrington on <06-23-18/0939:26>
- No Future is in development/being written. Sounds like it will be focusing on street culture/society...a new version if Attitude.

Or ...

;)

Something akin to a new version of the Sprawl Survival Guide? With maybe a focus on the punk aspect of cyberpunk? :)

This sounds quite intriguing  ;D
Title: Re: Upcoming Products / Releases
Post by: Marzhin on <06-27-18/1447:27>
This sounds quite intriguing  ;D

Keep in mind there's a fair chance my guess is utterly wrong ^^
Title: Re: Upcoming Products / Releases
Post by: AJCarrington on <06-28-18/1518:00>
Still sounds intriguing ;D
Title: Re: Upcoming Products / Releases
Post by: GeLrIrToCrH on <06-28-18/1944:20>
I was under the impression that No Future is going to be the new Shadowbeat book.
If I understood an interview I saw of Jason Hardy at Origins correctly.
Title: Re: Upcoming Products / Releases
Post by: kainite311 on <06-30-18/2115:15>
Are we going to see Kill Code release at GenCon? Or possibly before... Or....???? Patience is not a virtue...
Title: Re: Upcoming Products / Releases
Post by: Crimsondude on <06-30-18/2328:52>
With maybe a focus on the punk aspect of cyberpunk? :)
Duly noted.
Title: Re: Upcoming Products / Releases
Post by: Mirikon on <07-02-18/0013:57>
Are we going to see Kill Code release at GenCon? Or possibly before... Or....???? Patience is not a virtue...
It will come out after 6E has been announced.
Title: Re: Upcoming Products / Releases
Post by: ShadowMaster on <07-16-18/1505:45>
So if print copies of killcode will be available at gencon when will the pdf version be available and when is gencon?
Title: Re: Upcoming Products / Releases
Post by: AJCarrington on <07-16-18/1700:21>
If they have copies of Kill Code at GenCon (Aug 2-5), then the digital release will likely happen early August.
Title: Re: Upcoming Products / Releases
Post by: ShadowMaster on <07-16-18/1715:35>
Awesome!
Thanks.
Title: Re: Upcoming Products / Releases
Post by: Marcus on <07-16-18/2257:15>
That if part makes me slightly nervous. Is that a I cannot confirm or denie if?

I figured when everyone stopped talking about Kill Code and it became pretty clear it was the book almost everyone was hot to get their hands on we would see release at Gen Con, but IF is not the same will be released.

I'm just making sure something terrible didn't happen the book tossed for re-write, we have waited like over 2 years for a major part of this book. Not meaning to be jerk or anything.
Title: Re: Upcoming Products / Releases
Post by: baal_firenze on <07-16-18/2330:19>
There's a sourcebook listed as "Better Than Bad" SKU: CAT 27203 up for preorder at

https://www.thewarstore.com/Catalyst-Game-Labs-Shadowrun-RPG-Better-Than-Bad.html

also at miniature market.   Now the name could be a placeholder for Kill Code the name is not necessarily accurate.   Universal Dist lists 19 SEP 18 as release date, this could also change.

The SKU indicates it is the 3rd in the series of Cutting Aces CAT 27202 and Hard Targets CAT 27201 , so I think Kill Code could be a good bet.

[Edit: add release date]
Title: Re: Upcoming Products / Releases
Post by: ChromeCoyote on <07-17-18/0040:55>
No, Better Than Bad is a separate book about "hooding", as in Robin Hood.
Title: Re: Upcoming Products / Releases
Post by: Mirikon on <07-17-18/0120:57>
Watch it get pushed back to 6E.
Title: Re: Upcoming Products / Releases
Post by: Finstersang on <07-17-18/0829:29>
Totally unrelated for sure: https://twitter.com/amyveeres/status/973081482024628225   ::)
Title: Re: Upcoming Products / Releases
Post by: TonyK on <07-17-18/1656:20>
No, Better Than Bad is a separate book about "hooding", as in Robin Hood.
Darn it, now I have the Log song from Ren & Stimpy ("It's log, log, it's better than bad, it's good!") stuck in my head.
Title: Re: Upcoming Products / Releases
Post by: Mirikon on <07-18-18/0255:09>
No, Better Than Bad is a separate book about "hooding", as in Robin Hood.
Darn it, now I have the Log song from Ren & Stimpy ("It's log, log, it's better than bad, it's good!") stuck in my head.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2C7mNr5WMjA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2C7mNr5WMjA)