[wolfrider66]

I posted this at the end of the "A History of the Sixth World" topic that is pretty old so I'm re-posting here in case it gets overlooked. Sorry if this causes a problem.

My campaign is taking place in FDC. The players will eventually get involved with Rozilyn Hernandez through a botched assassination attempt in front of their apartment complex. Her motorcade or escort is ambushed, her vehicle disabled and blown open. Her security attachment is toast. She will be the damsel in distress that my newb runners, fresh out of AD&D, won't be able to ignore. They will rush to her aid to find out just how deep a rabbit hole can be as she doesn't remember her name or anything else for that matter. A minute later their news feeds light up with sketchy details of the attack and who she is. Then a Mr. Johnson calls and offers them a job they can't refuse.............to be cont.

That is for the future.  Right now I need to know what caused the Rift at Watergate. Was it Dunkelzahn's assassination? I am also a Shadowrun newb as my Jack Point tag so elegantly states, and although I have alarmed my wife with hundreds of dollars worth of "research" materials (Game books by the dozens lol), I don't seem able to sort that out. I have found tons of rumors on who was there at it's closing, but I might want to play that out with my guys. So I need to know how it started and is there a mission book or something that has it? 


wolfrider66
"Make your own luck."

[CanRay]

Dunkie go boom, rift opens up.  That's all anyone knows. 

[Crimsondude]

Its closing is described in Artifacts Unbound. If I did my math correctly in CT there should be at least two extra elves the Army found who weren't named in the story in AU, Praxis, and two of the elves named in the story (Surehand and Reed) escaped.

Heh.


But, yes, as I wrote in CT, Dunk exploded. The Rift appeared immediately after the explosion. It's described in Portfolio of a Dragon and The Dragon Heart Saga novels.


In Year of the Comet, Ghostwalker's astral form and some shedim (and possibly other unknown types of spirits) emerged. After that is when they built the bunker around it. It's also referenced in the novel Crossroads.

[Digital_Viking]

If I did my math correctly

/tonystark
And I always do
/tonystark

[CanRay]

If I did my math correctly

/tonystark
And I always do
/tonystark

Math SPUs, they're worth the cost! 

[ArkangelWinter]

In Year of the Comet, Ghostwalker's astral form and some shedim (and possibly other unknown types of spirits) emerged.

Perhaps a lesser horror or two?

[CanRay]

In Year of the Comet, Ghostwalker's astral form and some shedim (and possibly other unknown types of spirits) emerged.

Perhaps a lesser horror or two?

Before, or after the "Crossing Guard" or Ghostwalker pimpslapped them?

[ArkangelWinter]

In Year of the Comet, Ghostwalker's astral form and some shedim (and possibly other unknown types of spirits) emerged.

Perhaps a lesser horror or two?

Before, or after the "Crossing Guard" or Ghostwalker pimpslapped them?

In the confusion with GW and the shedim, one or two could have slipped through, made their way to  a secluded or high BGC area, like Salem, MA or Florida

[Crimsondude]

If I did my math correctly

/tonystark
And I always do
/tonystark

Indeed.

[wolfrider66]

Thanks folks. I found a short description in the Almanac and I'm shopping for the Dragon Heart Saga. Oh, and I am not going to compromise my timeline by playing through the events with my group. Also having Mrs, Hernandez get attacked near their home is a bad idea too. With the amount of news coverage that will be more ubiquitous than rats in a sewer, my group will most likely want to hide her somewhere and assuming they will think of somewhere other than their own home is, how do I say this kindly.....a stretch.   distance from the scene is a good idea.

[Crimsondude]

Thanks folks. I found a short description in the Almanac and I'm shopping for the Dragon Heart Saga.

Whoa whoa whoa. Hold on a second there.

I appreciate your enthusiasm. I really do. However, that's going a bit too far. If you can find some of the great novels like 2XS or Burning Bright for cheap, then by all means you should get them. But I don't think you'd get as much out of the DHS as you might think. It crawls up Shadowrun's own ass with a microscope, and ... yeah. Hold off on that. Having read them for their importance to MY work, I can assure you that there is nothing in those novels that I think would be overly useful to a new group just starting to play Shadowrun.

We also don't need to antagonize Mrs. wolfrider. Catalyst likes repeat customers, not dead ones.

Oh, and I am not going to compromise my timeline by playing through the events with my group. Also having Mrs, Hernandez get attacked near their home is a bad idea too. With the amount of news coverage that will be more ubiquitous than rats in a sewer, my group will most likely want to hide her somewhere and assuming they will think of somewhere other than their own home is, how do I say this kindly.....a stretch.   distance from the scene is a good idea.

As for this adventure/campaign idea, I think you may be overthinking that one a bit. If the attackers are who I think they are, or might be, or have a fleeting idea in wanting her dead or worse then there is an easy handwave there: "X controls the media and kept the story from leaking." Boom. Problem solved.

I'd run with the idea you have. There's no shortage of ideas and hooks presented in CT, that was kind of the idea, but just start simple and build from there like a reverse onion. No need to overcomplicate things. Especially with AD&D players. Their brains can't handle anything more complicated than "Dragon! Kill it!"

[TheNarrator]

Perhaps a lesser horror or two?

Before, or after the "Crossing Guard" or Ghostwalker pimpslapped them?

If the shedim got through after Ghostwalker took off to go look for his body, then other things could. And if it was a Named Horror, then it would be beyond the capabilities of Ghostwalker's pimp hand... or quite possibly be the one doing the slapping.

Normally I would say that the mana level isn't high enough yet for them to exist in our reality, but around the rift, who can say? Anyway, I suspect that they're finding ways to get at us, even if they can't arrive physically yet. Some of the magical threats and metaplots have a familiar feel to them.

[wolfrider66]

Thanks folks. I found a short description in the Almanac and I'm shopping for the Dragon Heart Saga.

Whoa whoa whoa. Hold on a second there.

I appreciate your enthusiasm. I really do. However, that's going a bit too far. If you can find some of the great novels like 2XS or Burning Bright for cheap, then by all means you should get them. But I don't think you'd get as much out of the DHS as you might think. It crawls up Shadowrun's own ass with a microscope, and ... yeah. Hold off on that. Having read them for their importance to MY work, I can assure you that there is nothing in those novels that I think would be overly useful to a new group just starting to play Shadowrun.

We also don't need to antagonize Mrs. wolfrider. Catalyst likes repeat customers, not dead ones.

Oh, and I am not going to compromise my timeline by playing through the events with my group. Also having Mrs, Hernandez get attacked near their home is a bad idea too. With the amount of news coverage that will be more ubiquitous than rats in a sewer, my group will most likely want to hide her somewhere and assuming they will think of somewhere other than their own home is, how do I say this kindly.....a stretch.   distance from the scene is a good idea.

As for this adventure/campaign idea, I think you may be overthinking that one a bit. If the attackers are who I think they are, or might be, or have a fleeting idea in wanting her dead or worse then there is an easy handwave there: "X controls the media and kept the story from leaking." Boom. Problem solved.

I'd run with the idea you have. There's no shortage of ideas and hooks presented in CT, that was kind of the idea, but just start simple and build from there like a reverse onion. No need to overcomplicate things. Especially with AD&D players. Their brains can't handle anything more complicated than "Dragon! Kill it!"

I can handle that, I like simple too. I want some one in a position of power to "owe" the characters at the very least  a thank you. From this person, Mrs. Hernandez in this case, they have access to any information about the timeline they might need in a pinch. Having access to the University of Georgetown libraries not to mention a foot in the door at the Illuminate of the New Dawn is my intention here. Now whether or not the characters realize the potential contacts here, well I'll slip a hint or two during game-play so even AD&D players get it.

wolfrider66
"Make your own luck."

[ArkangelWinter]

Normally I would say that the mana level isn't high enough yet for them to exist in our reality, but around the rift, who can say? Anyway, I suspect that they're finding ways to get at us, even if they can't arrive physically yet. Some of the magical threats and metaplots have a familiar feel to them.

I seem to remember Laughing Man reminding Ehran in an earlier book that Horrors may need a high mana count to cross over, but not to stick around after.

[NinthSphere]

Horrors theorizes that they need a sufficiently magic-rich environment to hang around, comparing an insufficient source to suffocating.