Shadowrun
Shadowrun Play => Play-by-Post => Topic started by: Stuttrboy on <09-18-16/1557:35>
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This campaign is designed to be an ongoing persistent world that will be focused on individual and group stories. This is the introduction and OOC thread to part 1: Prelude.
Prelude focuses on the neighborhood dubbed South Cross in the Redmond Barrens. This area is run by a group of Neo-Anarchists and is well known for it's shadow economy. Since there is no centralized control the territory is constantly under pressure from surrounding forces to be brought under control of a more organized group like one of the syndicates or one of the larger gangs. Violence and despair is common and escapism is an ever present commodity.
Your introduction and inclusion in the shadow economy and thus your over all livelihood has come from your fixer “Gunderson”. The understanding is work for him a while. Do well and keep your head down and you will gain more access to bigger and better pay and toys.
Recruiting will be here http://forums.shadowruntabletop.com/index.php?topic=24760.0 rules for character creation are there. If you want to join please post there and ask for a friend request here https://www.obsidianportal.com/profile/Stuttrboy#
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Okay I've got characters for Imladir, Scawire and Ennui. I will start off kind of free form and let you do what you want, but don't worry, Gunderson will call.
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Cigz can make a Logic+Willpower (2) test to keep from spending 50 nuyen on drinks if you'd like, otherwise please update your character sheet.
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I decided no point trying to resist the drink yet. I modded the character on this site I'll get to it shortly on OP.
I was wondering what dice roller are we using in this game, also do I use it to roll my extra nuyen or do you want to. Since the extra money is going to be needed specially when living in the neighborhood we seem to be gracing with our mad combat skills. Ok the other two have mad combat skills I'm just mad (crazy happy about playing shadowrun after two years away.) ;D
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http://orokos.com/roll/
Feel free to roll your own, just post the BBC code in OOC
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sigh, I hate you Stuttr
Agent 1 teamwork matrix perception (http://orokos.com/roll/438633): 4d6t5 2
Agent 2 teamwork matrix perception (http://orokos.com/roll/438634): 4d6t5 1
Agent 3 teamwork matrix perception (http://orokos.com/roll/438635): 4d6t5 3
so +3 limit and +4 dice for matrix perception
leader teamwork matrix perception (http://orokos.com/roll/438636): 12d6t5 1 lol wow, spectacular, and a glitch.
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lol wut?
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leader teamwork matrix perception (http://orokos.com/roll/438636): 12d6t5 1 lol wow, spectacular, and a glitch.
I see 5 ones, not 6. So not a glitch.
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With a device rating of 4 and the +3 from the teamwork test she would have needed 7 1s to have made a glitch right? Were you thinking of using the data processing limit of your deck instead?
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A glitch is only when you have ones on at least half of your dice, nothing else matters (except some qualities like Social Stress for example).
And a critical glitch is a glitch with no successes.
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Oh, how do I keep mixing that up. I think you've explained this to me before.
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I didn't want to say it, but yes I did ^^
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Part of that may have been me. I was talking about glitches with him earlier and thought it had something to do with your limit. Thank you for clearing that up.
Oh and "wut?". You know damn well I didn't want to be called Arachne. That's not her name.
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Increased reflexes force 5 (http://orokos.com/roll/438704): 10d6t5 3
edge reroll (http://orokos.com/roll/438707): 7d6t5 3
I had 4 successes on a force 5 spell that had 6 successes is my drain still 5P or is it 6P because of the extra success?
Neither.
If you had six successes, then yes, you would take physical drain. As it is, you only get five: spending edge to reroll misses doesn't increase the limit, it stays at five.
And the value of the drain, would be computed base on the force, not the successes.
So Force 1 with 7 successes, would be a 2P drain. Force 8 with 5 successes would be 8S.
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So her force 5 spell got 6 hits so she's rolling against 6P or the edge reroll limits her hits at 5?
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Edge reroll limits her at 5, so it's only 5S.
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So if I had rolled 6 natural successes it would have been 6P right?
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Had your limit been six yes.
So it can only happen if you cast a force 6 spell, use at least 6 reagents, or add edge to your rolls to reroll 6s and remove the limit.
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Ah so force is the limit. Stuttr said that was the case but I showed him in the book where it said the hits determine the force of the actual spell, I think I confused him, thanks for clearing that up, He hasn't played a mage yet...or a hacker/ technomancer we may lean on you for rules a bit until he gets the hang of them.
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Unless in the case mentioned before, with anything magic (spells, summons, preparations, etc.) Force.is always the limit. For spells, rituals and summons, Force is the only thing that matter for the Drain Value.
The type of damage however is decided with the number of successes (after limit is applied): less than your Magic, it's stun, more it's physical.
In case of spirit summoning, the Drain Value is twice the number of successes rolled by the spirit when resisting summoning, but the type of damage is once again determined by your number of successes (and not net successes). Note that when summoning, you can't use reagents to set the limits.
Oh and there's another case where you have to be careful with limits, it's when you are aligned to the background count, you add the BGC value to your limit.
And, speaking of background, note that in the barrens, there is always a BGC of at least 1, often 2. And, there is of course Matrix noise you have to deal with. I think it's always 2 but I'm not sure.
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This area BG count is 1 and noise is 1, the deeper into the barrens it can get as high as 3 unless there is a particularly toxic area. I should have mentioned that earlier.
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Also in the vein of keeping the dice rolls to a minimum and since Ennui has left for work and I would be rolling for her anyway. I will finish up the combat scene without further dice rolls as you have pretty much finished it already and you would act next since they are going on the defensive.
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burst fire bullet 1 (http://orokos.com/roll/438787): 10d6t5 4
burst fire bullet 2 (http://orokos.com/roll/438789): 10d6t5 2
burst fire bullet 3 2nd target (http://orokos.com/roll/438790): 10d6t5 1
Not too impressive over all hopefully these aren't tough mooks.
Hum, sorry to be such a rule lawyer (and by the way, I'm fine if you want to do it that way, just pointing out what the rules are in case it's a mistake).
But here, even with a burst fire (or a full auto spread) you can only have one single target, unless you divide your pool in two, which would allow you to have two targets (or divide in three and attack three targets, the limit being skill / 2 attacks in one action). To do that, you take your full pool, add all modifiers, then divide as evenly as possible.
With a three bullets burst, what you do is impose a penalty of -2d on the defence pool of your target (CRB p178-180).
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Thanks I was going to explain to her when she got home. This saves me the trouble.
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I for one appreciate it Imladir. I would say I don't have a great grasp on the rules. I doubt Stuttr has a much better grasp than I do. Pointing out rules we've misunderstood is a good thing, don't feel bad about it. Stuttr has a saying: Ignorance is fixable, willfull ignorance is a crime against humanity.
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I also appreciate it. don't feel bad about correcting me I'd rather know than not.
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Sam is awarded 1 karma for her completed run btw, good job=P
@cigz protip man negotiate your fee before you accept the job in the future.
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I also appreciate it. don't feel bad about correcting me I'd rather know than not.
Well then, I shall continue to do so. Note that while I'm Magic and on a lesser measure Matrix and TM rules are ok for me, I'm much less on point regarding combat, and even less with rigging.
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I think Stuttr meant to post this here.
Pics for characters are encouraged to help me visualize them in my world. I won't require them, but there may be bonuses for them as well as RP, humor and trickseyness.
Which reminds me bonus +1K for Ennui for calling Gunderson out and getting away with it. +1k for Sky for RP.
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Ya I know I didn't negotiate any fee I just thought I didn't have the skill I would try and jump onto the job hoping to make a name with him more then nuyen on this one.
Note: I haven't played a decker since 2nd edition so even though I know mages inside and out I'm going to be a bit of a newbie when it comes to decking, I just love the characters too much not to try one after so long. So pointers from time to time on decking would help.
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Thanks Ennui I didn't mean to post it here but this is a better place for it.
Cigz is english a second language for you? What is you native language?
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English is my native language I'm just horrorable when it comes to spelling, I've always been good at math but bad at spelling.
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You might try a word processing program to spell check, then copy and paste. Open office is good. No offense I tended but it is rather jarring. I mean we all do it a little but...
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i think alot of the choppiness of the post is because I keep inserting the characters name Cigz, I'll see if I don't use his name as much if that cuts back on the choppiness.
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@Elena in case I didnt mention it the files have the girls addresses and key codes
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[spoiler]summon resist drain (http://orokos.com/roll/440194): 10d6t5 4
Resist (http://orokos.com/roll/440198): 4d6t5 1
drain (http://orokos.com/roll/440199): 10d6t5 2 ouch[/spoiler]
I'm fuzzy on the numbers here Imladir, is this 2 requests and 3 drain?
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Nope, you don't take drain, since the DV is hits on the resist roll times two (with a min of two). As for the number of services it's three if the Force of the spirit is at least four. If you want it a bit more formally, it's min(summon hits, Spirit's force) - resist hits.
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See I told you. I was wondering what the BG count of 1 would cause -1 dice pools for all rolls or just for the summoning test
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BGC is applied on all magical rolls, spellcasting, summoning, spirits actions, etc. Not on drain, and not on spirit resistance to summoning (since they're not here yet)
Careful with the impact of the BGC on adept powers too.
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I assume everyone is reading each others threads (it is highly recommended). Feel free to post thoughts and other chatter here as well. Please feel free to offer praise and criticism but please constructive criticism only. "You suck" for instance isn't very constructive, however "you such because..." is fine. Praise is always welcome, I have a need for External Validation =D
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I am, I'm enjoying the stories so far. As usual I'm waiting for the inevitable mindscrew, though that seems to be starting with Sky already, enjoy the ride
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I have a feeling I might not be waiting that long myself :-\
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@ ennui Muahaha
@cigz Gotta give me a little more to work with there buddy.
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Sorry about that I wasn't 100% sure something wasn't going to happen in the apartment. I'll try and move faster but if I go to fast feel free to back track.
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I have a feeling I might not be waiting that long myself :-\
Yeah, I think I prefer my creepy box at the moment :o
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Hmm, you are getting full on Hero's journey treatment, the obi-wan, fates call, even the death and dying symbolism is getting laid on thick, all for your initiation into the "underworld" lol Stuttr this is almost cliche
Being mean to poor Cap, he's dying anyway why won't you leave him alone :'(
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BTW, how do you get your rolls to stack like you do in your posts?
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A couple rolls for stealthy stuff:
Disguise (http://orokos.com/roll/440605): 6d6t5 1
Sneaking (http://orokos.com/roll/440612): 7d6t5 2
How do I get the links to have the text I want?
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You mean with the three rolls on a single line? Just separate them with ;
12d6t5; 4d6t5; 10d6t5 for example.
How do I get the links to have the text I want?
Click on bbcode, copy/paste the field.
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No I mean making the link be "Disguise" instead of the address.
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And that's exactly what I said.
Under your roll, you have a Line with "Copy pasta: link bbcode", click on bbcode, it will open a text field, copy its content, and past it here.
Disguise (http://orokos.com/roll/440605): 6d6t5 1
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Ahah.. I almost did what you said.. but only almost. :D
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What's the next step, once character is approved and such?
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The next step is I have to come up with something to fit you into the game. I'm blanking on an intro but I should have something up today for Twist. Sorry for the wait, I bit off a little more than I could chew. I wasn't expecting so many techie characters. We have three magic hackers, one of which is a rigger too and a technomancer, that's over half the team lol.
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At least Sky doesn't have a single technical skill :o
Increased Reflexes F5 (http://orokos.com/roll/440610): 9d6t5 3 +2 +1d6 init
drain resist (http://orokos.com/roll/440611): 10d6t5 3 no drain
Sorry to disapoint, but for a Force 5 Increase Reflexes, the drain is 5 (Stun since it's not higher than your magic rating). So with that roll, you take 2S.
Plus, you forgot the -1d from the Background count.
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Yeah I was going to mention that, she counted the BGC her normal roll would have been 10d6 but in the sewers the background count is a bit higher, due to the extra special pollution. So it was only 2 for +1 +1d6 Are drain resists effected by background count? I was thinking they were like rolling body+armor for resisting damage.
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Hum on her sheet she has 9d for spellcasting (11d for illusions). So I don't think the BGC was taken into account.
And no, drain resists are not affected by the background. It's bad enough as it is :o
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Casting + force right? that's 10, probably a typo.
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Spellcasting + Magic. Force is the limit (unless you use edge or reagents).
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I thought my base was 10 I'll check when I get home...I hope I havent been lying.
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It's 4 in spellcasting, shame on you. I think you might have been thinking of Isla
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Where do you guys see yourselves at on the scale from pink mohawk to black trenchcoat? One side or the other, middle road?
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SlidingScaleOfIdealismVersusCynicism: This is what "Pink Mohawk" vs "Black Trenchcoat" usually boils down to. "Pink Mohawk" games tend to be more idealistic and feature more So Cool, It's Awesome and larger-than-life neo-anarchists and cyber-warriors fighting the good fight with high-powered explosions, while "Black Trenchcoat" is more about your players being criminals if not outright terrorists living under the radar in a cyberpunk dystopia where you're a small fry in a big pond.
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My characters always tend to be idealistic, and I wouldn't be able to play a terrorist. A criminal possibly, but that would soon turn more Robin Hood than Al Capone... So in that sense, I'm more Pink Mohawk than Black Trenchcoat.
That said, while I don't like (at all) having Bad Stuff™ happen to my characters (I'm thinking really bad stuff, like torture, rape, etc, not just "I don't manage to do what I wanted", getting robbed - though surprisingly, I'm not a fan of getting robbed either, go figure :p), I like it when it's... well... dark. I don't mind if my characters can't have a global impact, as long as our characters have an impact in the current setting (so for example, here it could be just our corner of the barrens). I hope I'm reasonably clear :o
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I tend to just prefer some "realism" in the games I play. But that means "realism within the genre".
I tend to play characters with a lot of "character". Nothing very stereotypical or cookie-cutter.
Mostly I ref these days so my games try to have the characters make hard choices, and in SR there tends to be a lot of double-crossing and mysterious goings on which the players eventually figure out.
So less pink and more edge I guess. ;D
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Twist is up and waiting NightAngel
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Sky has completed her first run and is awarded 4 karma.
I may increase rewards and backdate some Karma seeing as how long these take posting once or twice a day.
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Teddy's ride just stopped it's not broken or anything, or at least I don't see anything that would indicate that. I don't see any reason you couldn't just run him over...other than that being a kind of dick move I guess.
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If Tedd can run the guy over he will do so instead, as it is the shortest and safest route. I am not sure that he can keep up with the biker by foot anyhow, but he will not attempt stunts and things that may endanger his passengers just to runover a guy. (so parking lot is fair game, afterwards he'll be on foot).
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You could also drive up next to him and say "freeze sucka!" lol
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@Stuttrboy Initially I wanted Tedd as a ruthless street kid wanting to get on top of the food chain. He is not particularly cruel but had no ideology of any sort and no moral - other than the etiquette of the streets. E.g, killing for Gunderson is survival not murder, he owns him after all. Now that he has a code of honor- I see him more of a 'good guy'.
@Ennui - I imagine Tedd as the most non intimidating person you'd imagine so I cannot even think of him trying to do something like that. Teddy - as a Teddy bear, this is why I named him like that.
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I think that was why Stuttr instituted that rule. He didn't want to be running a group of sociopaths.
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That's part of the reason. Having more hooks for a character is always a good thing in my opinion. I'm not here to screw you guys over but I want it to be interesting and applying pressure to sensitive areas is always better than leading people around by the nose.
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I think we should roll initiative on who goes first but, okay: Tedd is not exactly durable he has body of 3 and armor jacket + helmet (total of 17 body + armor). He will use interrupt action (evasive driving/full defense) to add 3 points of willpower to his defense roll, lowering his initiative from 26 to 16.
First phase:
Dodge + Full defense (http://orokos.com/roll/441674): 12d6t5 3
I think that usually the attacker rolls first - so here I get to decide - if he has 4 or more hits - then I'll spend edge to re-roll failures.
reroll faliures (if needed) (http://orokos.com/roll/441675): 9d6t5 4
if Tedd is hit , we'll have to see how well his armor protects him.
resist damage (http://orokos.com/roll/441676): 17d6t5 8
Tedd's attack:
Pilot ground craft +1 (http://orokos.com/roll/441678): 16d6t5 6
(limit is 5 - due to the limitations of the buggy).
It should do to the man 14P -6AP if Tedd hits.
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PS I also edited the previous post to indicate we went with running the guy down ;)
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Elena has few morals, but will not kill people she is not supposed to. She is very much a get in close kind of killer, having almost no ranged skills, but she likes it that way. Ranged weapons are for those who do not like to get their hands dirty or do not like to see the look in the victim's eyes as they die.
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I'm sort of both. When it comes to idealism I'm totally Pink Mohawk, but when it comes to runs I'm black trenchcoat all the way. The way I see it is those are two totally different areas, you have work, then you have personal. When it comes to work It's black trenchcoat but when it comes to righting wrong done to me or my friends, Pink Mohawk is the way to go, so I'm sorta in the middle with some extremes depending on the circumstances.
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Compile Sprite. It gets 5 dice to resist, and I take 2 DV Stun per hit (total hits, not net) it gets, minimum 2. I resist the first 2 DV of that stun.
Compile Data Sprite @ lvl 5. Pre-edge (http://orokos.com/roll/441865): 14d6h5! 5
Resist Fade (http://orokos.com/roll/441869): 9d6t5 2
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Stuttr says he's beat but he will update everyone tomorrow and will probably be around most of the day if you want to get in a few responses.
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As for pink Mohawk and black trench coat. I go more black trench coat I usally stay low key keeping in the shadows and trying to work with out getting noticed
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I'm not seeing where you are getting 14 dice for compiling the sprite. Reso +skill is 11 and noise of 1,(though I understand this wasn't apparent.)
with 10d6 you have 4 hits still. Exploding 6s only works with edge are you doing something you didn't describe somewhere?
The sprite scores 1 hit to resist.
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I pre-edged. Says so in the roll description, doesn't it?
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Ah I wasn't familiar with the terminology. I was looking at the pre-edge thinking you were saying this was your roll before edge, Then you did it exactly right. I did mention I was new to 5th ed right =P
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Bullets can't hurt spirits right, unless they are materialized? Which brings up the question does the spirit need to be materialized to fight the ghoul? They are dual natured right?
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Yes. Ghouls are dual natured, so spirits can attack them on the astral plane.
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I'd stick to astral with the spirit as that way the ghoul has to use astral combat to fight it back - and well it is not the most common of skills.
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I actually know a bit about this, because I was looking into it recently for a ghoul char in my game.
Ghouls because they are naturally dual natured may use their physical skills and stats when attacking in hand to hand in the astral plane. So for them it doesn't matter which one they fight on. It also doesn't matter because the spirit doesn't get immunity against the claws of a dual natured creature. On the other hand the ghoul is confined to moving physically whereas the spirit can disengage at will since it can move astrally if it chooses.
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Ah I wasn't familiar with the terminology. I was looking at the pre-edge thinking you were saying this was your roll before edge, Then you did it exactly right. I did mention I was new to 5th ed right =P
No problem at all! I understand the feeling.
So since the spirit got 1 hit, I fully resisted the Fade, right?
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Yeah that's right, I kinda went a little overboard on the description based on that didn't I...kinda blanked there.
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Nah, it's totally fine.
All we can do is keep moving forward, right?
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Matrix Perception (http://orokos.com/roll/442048): 11d6t5 4
Computer 5 + Intuition 4 + 2 (Hot Sim VR)
Looking for the highest device ratings in the area, and who owns those.
Also, did I get anything from the sprite looking up the people who live here?
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Someone forgot the noise again ^^
Oh and speaking of noise, I don't think it applies for resonance actions (like compiling a sprite)
And on the BGC side of things, don't forget that spirits are impacted by it on everything they do, astral or physical (the only pool where they don't get the penalty is for initiative)
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There's no host here, right? Doesn't that mean that I can just hack the various commlinks without going through the security system at all?
@Imladir: Thanks, you're right.
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No there is no host but the spider probably has a bunch of stuff slaved to his PAN that is hidden behind that firewall. That isn't really what you are here for though.
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Sky has heard stories about Scout, she also knows that she isn't one of Gundersons goons. This "girl" legitimately scares the crap out of you. I probably should have made this more apparent in the descriptions I gave. That being said she has a sense of humor but if you start a prank war with Scout...well let's just say I gave you a chance.
I'll let you edit your post if you'd like, if not just tell me to let it ride and the games can begin.
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Gonna start hacking the commlinks, then. How many Rating 4 links are there?
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Sky has heard stories about Scout, she also knows that she isn't one of Gundersons goons. This "girl" legitimately scares the crap out of you. I probably should have made this more apparent in the descriptions I gave. That being said she has a sense of humor but if you start a prank war with Scout...well let's just say I gave you a chance.
I'll let you edit your post if you'd like, if not just tell me to let it ride and the games can begin.
Crow (http://orokos.com/roll/442471): 10d6t5 1
I can't, I have to do it ^^
Maybe I should do it to someone else, but...
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@nightangel there are 5, you want to start with the closest most isolated...etc?
@Imladir It does say clever prank =P but okay.
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Not sure If I have to start rolling for the wi fi scan. Let me know if I do. Sorry again a bit new to deckers.
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Gonna start with the one furthest up in the building.
Level 4 Resonance Veil, "An authorized user asked you to upload a copy of all data you contain to the local matrix grid without displaying any notifications that you are doing so."
Test is opposed by the commlink's Intuition + Data Processing.
Resonance Veil (http://orokos.com/roll/442666): 9d6t5 2
Spending edge to reroll misses:
Resonance Veil (Post-edge) (http://orokos.com/roll/442667): 7d6t5 2
Total of 4 hits.
Resist Fade:
Resist Fade (http://orokos.com/roll/442669): 9d6t5 1
I take 2 stun. Ouch.
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@Imladir It does say clever prank =P but okay.
Yeah well, I'm not a prankster, so I do what I can ^^
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Sorry about the anemic posts I've been busy at work, I will try to make sure to get one up for everyone today. I have some hustle to do to get ready for the long weekend coming up.
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RL is for people that can't handle role-playing games IMO. ;D
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Stuttr has that annoying day job negative trait.
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Sky has earned +1 karma for role playing as well as the prank warrior negative quality. Enjoy!
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Ennui +2 karma for roleplay and completing your run, would have been more if you didn't kill that poor innocent ghoul.
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Killdare is awarded +5 karma for roleplay and completed run. sometimes sticking to your code can cost you some money, but it pays you back in other ways.
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FYI as Ennui mentioned work has been kicking my ass. I will try to keep up with at least 1 post a day, maybe more over the weekend but my birthday is this weekend so I may be busier that usual.
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@Stuttr - I was reminded on the run that when I made my char and took all those drugs I really wanted to take some toxins so I could knock people out but not kill them. I know that a lot of people take issue with the rules/strength for toxins so I didn't do it, but if possible it would be great to have something like Narcojet (and Neurostun/Nausea grenades) so that instead of shooting people in the face I could maybe knock them out with drugs and not have to kill them. ;)
Was wondering what your thoughts/stance on those types of things are. Might pick some up with all this new found wealth.
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Sky has earned +1 karma for role playing as well as the prank warrior negative quality. Enjoy!
Huh, straight to Prank Warrior..?
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Scout doesn't play around...I'll see how it plays out.
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Casting Resonance Veil, Level 4 again:
Resonance Veil (http://orokos.com/roll/443606): 9d6t5 4
Resist Fade:
Resist Fade (http://orokos.com/roll/443607): 9d6t5 3
1 stun.
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@Stuttrboy Enjoy your birthday weekend.
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HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!!!!
HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!!!!
HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!!!!
HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!!!!
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Ugh. Birthdays are more of a pain in the ass each year. It's more like my friends enjoy the shit more than me.
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I know what you mean. I keep telling my wife I don't want to do anything but she always wants to make a big deal.
Meanwhile... the important stuff..
So there are some optional rules in Bullets and Bandages p18-19 (don't know if you have/use the book) about upgrading a medkit so that it has a higher rating, but no extra supplies and still the size of the lower rating. If I can do that, I'd like to. Since it requires Cybertechnology skill I can spend all my awake time learning the skill online, and then working on self upgrading my medkit or totally screwing it up and having to buy another one because i bricked it. ;D
Also not sure if you saw my previous post about trying to get a hold of toxins (Narcojet) and/or Gas Grenades with Neurostun (or something) so I have some more non-lethal options. Could always go with Nausea gas too I suppose.
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Narcojet would need a specialized rifle to use, I'm not sure I'm willing to allow chem rounds without a decent armorer fixer, which will become available later if you guys play your cards right. gas grenades are basically the same as well.
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@gilga Since you are spending 4 days working on the car basically non stop I'm going to give the others a few extra posts to sort of "catch up" You all didn't necessarily start around the same time as each other but I'm trying to keep it fairly close. Otherwise congrats on your first run you earn 5 karma and you are likely to come out of this with 6kish.
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Nice going on that run, we can also RP downtime if you'd like. Most of the money will get to reduce the debt, and the way I see this going the karma goes to another point of auto mechanic.
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Are we using any of the Technomancer errata posted up recently, or are we going to stay with the core stuff for this?
Link for ease of reference:
http://forums.shadowruntabletop.com/index.php?topic=24595.msg467945#msg467945 (http://forums.shadowruntabletop.com/index.php?topic=24595.msg467945#msg467945)
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No reason why you should not.
I gleefully went ahead with my character on TC :D
Hopefully one other change will make it (suggested by one of the freelancers), which is to increase the living persona scores by 2.
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Well, it's specifically important to me in this scene, because if so I've only taken 1 stun, as opposed to 3. :P
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Stuttr says it's fine to use the errata just make sure to post the rules when you use them "like you did". He's down with a bad sinus infection, posts may be slow coming =/
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That's a peculiar birthday present...
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I hope you feel better soon Stuttr, and I hope you enjoyed your birthweek.
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Thanks I seem to get sick around this time of year, but I haven't been this bad since I quit smoking.
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Threading Resonance Veil 3 more times for the last three Rating 4 commlinks:
Resonance Veil, Level 5 (http://orokos.com/roll/446422): 9d6t5 3
Resist Fade (http://orokos.com/roll/446432): 9d6t5 2
Resonance Veil, Level 5 (http://orokos.com/roll/446434): 9d6t5 3
Resist Fade (http://orokos.com/roll/446435): 9d6t5 2
Resonance Veil, Level 5 (http://orokos.com/roll/446436): 9d6t5 5
Resist Fade (http://orokos.com/roll/446437): 9d6t5 2
No additional stun. Fading Value for Resonance Veil has been changed to (L-3), min 2 DV, per the errata I posted earlier.
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As you continue around the perimeter you number them at 56
That would be possible, but in 5th edition, watchers are made with a ritual, and last [Force x Net hits] hours. So in order to have so many of them, you'd need a bunch of mage who spend their lives creating watchers...
CRB, p298 for more details.
Assenssing (http://orokos.com/roll/447041): 9d6t5 3 on one of the watchers, mainly to determine its Force.
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Then they are just low force spirits like 1's and 2's
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That's possible.
So many mages though... Brrr...
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Yes there are quite a few.
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Night Angel you still around? You haven't posted in like 4 days. Hope everything is okay.
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Waiting for your reply on what happens with the complex forms I threaded, boss. :D
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I have.
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Oops. Missed that.
Sorry!
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Has there been any movement in meatspace?
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The PANs are all moving around but no one has come within your proximity alarm and none are near you other than the one guards.
ANNOUNCEMENT: My grandmother is in the hospital with a broken hip she's 94 and pretty frail so between that and work being crazy I'm going to be very limited on the amount of postings I can do. I will try to keep up with Into the Chaos but I probably won't be updating this game for about a week or so. Sorry about my inconsistency, but it will be temporary, please be patient.
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No problem, take your time.
Good luck.
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I plan on starting back up on friday. NighAngel I dont know if youve been waiting on me to post something but you should respond to the most recent one. Im starting to think you have quit.
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what about Teddy?
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You are like 4 days ahead I of everyone.
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For me the break was actually welcome.
Last week I moved and now I'm in my new house which is still being remodeled.
So everything is a mess still.
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I am very ready to get back into this.
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What is Sky trying to assense? If you are looking for a trail for your body that would have followed your astral form. If you are aware of other rules could you point me to them?
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Although if you really want to mess up a magician without killing her, you can move her body away from where she left it. Magicians hate playing hide and seek with their own body.
If someone moves your body away from where you expected it to be, you’ll have to search for it. If that happens, make an Assensing + Intuition [Astral] (1 hour) Extended Test. The threshold should be determined by the gamemaster based on how far your body was moved and how well it was hidden.
Given that if a Mage spends more than Magic x 2 hours in the astral he dies, and that finding his body can take hours... When Sky vowed to murder Scout, it was not just a joke there.
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You aren't even going to try asking nicely? She'll be crushed.
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Nice and attempted murder don't go well together.
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Oh yeah, you two are going to be a special kind of friends =D
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Yeah, for an hour or two.
Then, there'll be one dead, which kind of make friendship hard.
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I'm confused. Unless they are both projected (so mages themselves), there's no way I can hear anything from either of them...
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Okay, then you didn't hear Gunderson...You'd be able to hear a duel-natured individual though not necessarily projecting.
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Dual natured people are always in the astral yeah.
But in addition to that, Sky is not staying around the bar, she's "hunting" for her body...
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Or when an adept is astrally perceiving. The rules do not appear to be explicit about that. The way I see it, you are attempting to assense the location of your body which doesn't have an astral signature of it's own so you are assensing your own aura attempting to find the tether (the silver cord) that will lead you back to your body. Is there something that you wanted to do that this interferes with?
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An adept astrally perceiving would work too yes.
As I saw it, the process is more mobile, but it can work as you say too of course.
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My two cents.. I don't think there is actually any "sound" in the astral plane.
If you are listening to people talking you just get the emotional content of the convo (I think).
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From what I understand, Scout is an adept astrally perceiving. That way, she has dual nature. So when she speaks, it's audible on the two "planes", so it's ok.
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Things that exist only on the material plane can be seen and heard from the astral, but they are blurred and muted as the emotional context of people and things registers more than physical properties of light and sound (in many ways they are a substitution for those properties). SR5 p312
So what I was saying is that an Adept astrally perceiving (dual natured) who speaks will be heard normally on the mundane plane, but only the emotional content will be "heard" on the astral.
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I think people can communicate in the Astral and if dual natured that communication would be able to be heard on both planes.
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Someone astrally perceiving has the dual nature. By definition, the dual natured doesn't exist only in one plane. So whatever she does (movements, speech and even attacks) are reflected from one plane to the other.
Not that it changes much of what Sky does and will do in the current situation anyway.
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Teddy will need to be proactive if he wants to do something special besides work on his car as it is based on the time line you have 2 days lead on everyone else and I'm trying to keep things running more or less in tandem in case people are needed for back up..
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Well this is SR so no 9 to 17 people work insane hours and enslave themselves to their job, and that is when they are not fixing the car of a (more) dangerous criminal. So no, Teddy would not be hitting strip bars or going dancing, but he is going to party when he is done.
Also are we going to merge anytime soon? I mean, 1:1 is kind of too linear for my taste.
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I will probably merge a few of you soon. I had planned for this to be a little longer but keeping up with 7 of you is kind of time consuming. It will probably be two groups at first.
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LOL And here I was going to say that I love the solo aspect so far. Believe me, I do understand the problems with managing all the different threads of several solo games. I applaud the players that are still sticking with me in the Tangled Currents threads I am running and am not sure why some of them do, but I feel that so much more definition and detail is available to solo games. Having said that, I will, of course, go whichever way the thread goes.
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I like the solo stuff too, but I also see Gilga's point, though I don't think linear is the right word. Maybe specialized.
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What's going on in Sky's head? Give me an idea of what you are thinking please.
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Being unable to find her body is maybe the worst nightmare a Mage can go through in the Astral, something that could easily kill her without leaving a single trace. Having it done to her, she feel murderous regarding Scout.
She's not a killer, so she won't go find her. But if she sees Scout, she would probably try, which would end badly for one of them.
Maybe even more than that, she feels betrayed by Gunderson. Maybe wrongly - even probably in his opinion - but she feels that since she was doing his job, he should have prevented Scout from doing that, at least while she's working for him.
Which means that Sky has decided to leave Seattle. Maybe take the underground train to San Francisco. She's come to Isac to say goodbyes, considering that he's her only friend.
Oh and I don't expect you to Deus Ex the shit out of this, it's fine, don't worry.
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I won't Deus ex it but I'll give it a shot.
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Okay Cigz is fighting. Give me an initiative roll and your actions and I'll try to best describe the action.
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Initiative 8 + 2d6
Initiative (http://orokos.com/roll/457204): 2d6 7
Initiative 15
Two simple actions SA gun fire
Pistols 8d6
SA Pistols (http://orokos.com/roll/457206): 8d6t5 4
2nd SA shot
SA Pistols (http://orokos.com/roll/457207): 8d6t5 2
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I'm pretty sure you can only make one attack per initiative pass.
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Looks like hes doing it for both passes on 15 and 5
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I had asked for his actions for the round so that I could describe them. I guess I should have suggested he roll his defense and soak a few times as well, that's what I get for assuming. I'll roll them for him I guess,
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3 karma awarded to Killdare for completing his second run and keeping it real.
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Sorry for being slow, it's been really busy right before the holidays.
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Havent heard from Imladdir for a while are you still playing?
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Still here, and I've just answered your PM :)
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I realize posts have been slow. I'm still busy with my grandmother, work and holiday stuff things should normalize after the first of the year I hope but I'm going to try to be posting at least every other day if not daily. A few of you might be in line to be consolidates. I know Gilga wants to if anyone else does speak up and I'll see if we can't work it out. If you would prefer the 1 on 1 treatment let me know also and I will also try to prioritize that, no promises though.
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Am I in trouble? I'm going to make a Judge intentions roll. Judge intentions (http://orokos.com/roll/469911): 10d6t5 3 That was supposed to be 7 not 10, so 2 hits
I am not going to be talking my way out if this I don't think.
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Oh, and I like the one on one stuff but I'm happy to consolidate if that makes things easier on you
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There's an edge to it but he doesn't seem hostile exactly mostly just...curious.
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So no one but ennui has answered my last post, so I'll put a little reminder in the threads.
Also quick question. What does everyone like the most about Shadowrun? The run itself, the planning stages, the collaborative story telling, something else I haven't thought of maybe?
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I like all of it, except for maybe the combat sequences, which seem to really slow down the play. I am very big into RP and collaborative work that goes beyond a simple run. I lie it when PCs and NPCs are able to talk among themselves and broaden the scope of the world we are playing in.
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I like the planning an execution. Particularly when the plan goes right. There's nothing quite so satisfying as when a well laid plan goes smoothly or teamwork pull you out of a snag.
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I actually like character development and role playing most, but I do enjoy a good fight :)
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I realize posts have been slow. I'm still busy with my grandmother, work and holiday stuff things should normalize after the first of the year I hope but I'm going to try to be posting at least every other day if not daily. A few of you might be in line to be consolidates. I know Gilga wants to if anyone else does speak up and I'll see if we can't work it out. If you would prefer the 1 on 1 treatment let me know also and I will also try to prioritize that, no promises though.
Don't forget this one too
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I am perfectly happy in solo play and in group play. My normal posting is morning and night as I do not have access to the sight from work. If that will work with others, then by all means toss me into the fire. I ahve not got too far in my thread and others could help me solve the problem or I can continue to stumble after I made the mistake of eating and drinking drugged food. Bah. Rookie.
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I personally like having a group to fill in any holes in each others abilities. Thing is I only post once a day so if we are group playing we might want a system we use if some slows down the posts.
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What's your favorite part of shadowrun Scawire.
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So, to answer the two questions:
- I don't mind forming a group with someone else. Especially if our skills are complementary, a "group" of two mages may not help too much :o
- I'm not too fond of combat, making the plan can be fun if it doesn't take forever, but what I like best is story building, seeing my character live, evolve, etc.
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I love how shadowrun has fantasy meshed up with advanced tech. That is why my favorite characters are mage deckers. This time around i went with an adept since i could still get my fav spell.
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Well as Teddy is waiting for such a long time to get the car fixed, I think I'll just drop.
Don't converge just because Teddy has noone to interact with.
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Aww, don't go gilga. Stuttr's just got rigger 5 and has been reading it all week. Give it a little longer.
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From what I have been reading, Teddy would be a good one to merge with someone else.
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Yeah, don't go gilga I've almost got you done with the car and I was going to combine you guys into two groups at this point, working toward that anyway.
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Fine I am waiting, but it has been I think months to repair that car...
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I know it's been a while but i've been trying to keep the timeline fairly close. You blow through the entire day in two posts. It should pick up soon.
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Well, they are on separate threads I doubt that should be a concerned just don't let one get that much more money/karma then the rest. Just my opinion though, because Teddy is a mechanic and he is going to be fixing cars here and there, and it'd be a shame to have him wait so much every time a client walks in his shop. He'll probably waste most of the money he does not pay Gunderson to try and furnish his auto shop.
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I can support ending my mission in failure if this is an attempt to get me hooked up with someone else in a group, but I hate failing. There is a bit of loss of confidence.
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It's not, it is in response to your actions. You can continue investigating if you want but Gunderson isn't paying for it.
I know gilga but there are things happening behind the scenes that I can only fudge so much. don't worry though you will be rewarded for initiative.
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ANNOUNCEMENT: So I'm going to try an experiment. I will award Karma for adding in some good atmosphere with your posts. Mention the song you were listening to on your earbuds or an add you see in AR or a message board you frequent. Whatever you can think of. This is pure fluff please, no meta-gaming. Keep the mood of the campaign in mind but humor is always good too. Hell I might even take some of it and make it my own or incorporate it into the game if I'm particularly impressed. Thank you.
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Good start Mercy, congrats on completing your first run you are awarded 5K +1 for your atmosphere (probably won't do this for every post but you were the first) If you ever decide to check the credstick there is 2,000Y on in it.
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Are we talking about IRL songs or from SR bands/singers?
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If you want to listen to the golden oldies that's fine. Idon was a group I've mentioned in the threads a few times that I guess Mercy added to. It can be anything, music, AR adds critters scurrying in the darkness. Whatever.
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Hmmmm. I guess Elena is not waiting for Teddy. I wonder who?
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I guess it's no real secret Teams are (Elena, Sam and Killdare) and (Sky,Ted, andCigz)
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LOL I had not seen that coming. I guess I need to go back and reread those threads.
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I do not see a thread for Sam. Am I missing something? I have reread Killdare and am hoping that he can run with Elena, because she IS a cold hearted assassin and would have killed those guys without thinking twice about it if she was paid to do it. But only if she was paid to do it. She does have some ethics, after all.
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I edited my last post to reflect that I finally read the instructions and am waiting at the Next Round.
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Arachne is Sam, I made it Arachne as a joke.
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Because I made a spider shaman with a pet tarantula. Yeah, yeah hilarious.
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So when are we getting together?
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As soon as Overbyte responds I suppose. He hasn't posted for a bit
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LOL So far Elena is just sitting there by herself, nursing a fruit-ade. If you show up we can at least be talking and feeling each other out.
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Want a team name or should I just make them up?
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I'm not good with these kind of things, so you (or Gilga or Scawire) can choose whatever (nice) name you want as far as I'm concerned.
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Angels? for team Sam Elena and overbyte, two feme fatalles and an angel of mercy =P
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Two angels of death and one of mercy? That could work.
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So apparently I wasn't getting the notifications from this thread.. so I thought things had stalled.. and I was kinda chillin'.
I reset the notifications and hope that will work. I should be able to post pretty regularly now that things have calmed down with my house move.
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Don't forget to follow Angels, you are in that one now.
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Oh yeah Sky gets 5K for a completed run and roleplay.
Samn gets 4K for complete run and roleplay...you are still paying off a karmic debt.
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The bears!
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Sorry for the delay everyone
I regret to inform you that do to a busy class load at University I will be unable to continue playing in this game. I apologize for any trouble this will or has caused any of you.
Thank you for the great game I was able to play up to this point. I hope you all keep having fun with the game.
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Okay then. Team Teddy and Sky aka. Da Bears! shall begin
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Da bears? Whatever for?
Sure I said I didn't really care about the name, but...
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You said you didn't care and Gilga wanted the bears so he gets what he wants.
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I said I didn't care as long as it's nice :o
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Bears are nice!
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Maybe, but surprisingly that's probably the last thing I think about Sky.
Hell, I would have gone for a halfway decent name... Next time I'll propose something.
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I have no negotiations and my charisma is 2. If you are going to assist anyone with negotiations it will probably be Elena...and I'm sort of in the dog house with Gunderson
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LOL And Elena rarely if ever tries to negotiate a better deal. She is almost always content with what is offered.
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Feel free not to negotiate =D
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Well if this is 'blowing off' the job then yes Tedd will not go on a new thing before he finished the previous one. Somehow I did not get that sense of urgency. I mean we meet at 10 am in some place only to go talk to someone else. Gunderson knew about that thing at least from the night before - so what is another half a hour? Ritual magic is also measured in hours -so... sorry i do not see the terrible urgency to spend half a day chanting or whatever it is people do in ritual magic.
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I dunno looks pretty urgent to me. He mentioned you were I pressed for time at least twice and he bumped up your payday by 5k "if you go now". I think if you take into consideration stuttrs multiple "are you sures" you might be asking for trouble.
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Some rituals only take minutes, not hours.
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We met at 10... Anyhow no biggie for Tedd to be seating another one out.
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Accepting a run then blowing it off may have worse repercussions than just sitting one run out., but okay. Since Teddy won't be joining you I'll have Gunderson hire an NPC and we will just go back to the Solo threads then.
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Alright.
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Don't bother with Teddy's thread - I'll quit, it's been a bit shaky for me to say the least, but sometimes it happens with characters.
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Are you sure? I can come up with something. If you'd prefer to create a different character...one you think might fit in better you are free to do so as well.
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no it is okay... I think it is us not the characters. I mean we just blew a story of what appeared to me as a minor detail but after waiting months for resolution of one epic car repair I wanted to finish RPing it before doing something else. I find this whole expirience unsatisfying.
I mean it would have been okay if that long while was filled with trying to find time to work between runs. But after waiting so long doing nothing because I was proactive and wanting to fix a car... I just wanted to finish that story. Perhaps it is just our approaches to these things that frustrates me so much.
I felt rhe same frustration on my first posts where Oz was refering to Tedd as Teddy and Tedd could not return the favor. we view things differently but for example I did not see why they shouldn't be friends. You had another view of their relations and well it was okay but felt bad. I think it is the same as here insted of writing people get angry waiting for Tedd you invent some Npc that can replace him in 0 time. I mean he could have been annoying but you chose to make it considerably more dramatic and write him off the story.
I honestly meant for him to be obsessed about that car and a bit obnoxious. Not to go awol on the run. There are many ways to make things meet and I feel like I need a bit more of a flexibility especially as I often interpert things differenly.
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I tried to make sure you understood that Gunderson would not see it as a minor detail without making you do something you didn't want to do.
I offered you a number of opportunities to do other things than work on the car, granted I didn't think of sending you on a run while you were following your own story but you made it pretty clear you were only interested in fixing the car, then again the moment I throw a wrench into your plans you blow off the run. I understand you were frustrated with having to wait a bit while others were catching up to you but I tried to explain that things were going on in the background and I needed you all on the same basic timeline.
The Ted with two D's kinda confused me so I mixed it up a little, if that bothered you you should have mentioned it. I certainly don't recall admonishing you for calling Oz anything but Oz though I might have asked if you were referring to Oz just to be sure. I always felt like Oz was friendly towards you but he's a bit gruff (low charisma) so if that put you off I'm sorry I try to give my NPCS a personality to explore. I don't see anything like what you describe reading back over your solo posts. As for the NPC replacing you I know Gunderson is going to be pissed and will replace you ASAP I fully intend to roleplay out that people get mad at you, but you have quit before we have been able to get to that. As it is Sky will be getting an earful but won't be held responsible.
You are free to play your character in whatever way you want. I understand you felt left out for a while and I'm sorry for that, communicating your frustrations and expectations can help me make the experience more fulfilling for everyone. You are welcome to keep playing Tedd or create another character now that we (hopefully) understand each other better.
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Well let's not make a big deal out of it, what you say is just the thing that is difficult for me to handle. Why make the meeting at 10 and NOW why not 9 and take your time? (or yesterday, or via matrix - if we are that much in a hurry why waste so much time.) Gunderson said these things but well - Sorry for not seeming so concerned about the timing - he does not behave like someone in that much of a hurry or we would not be needlessly hopping between meetup locations.
Second the story - well you have it your way or the highway - and well this is fine if this is the kind of game you want to run. Like I said there were many other possible scenarios to handle it, I like it when story goes from all places, and we can adopt to things. I am not saying that your way is wrong or anything - I am just saying that I do not seem to enjoy this kind of rigidity very much.
It was the same thing with offering Tedd to go partying, (so that something could happen)... but Ted does not party, does not drink - perhaps a single beer. He is a geek with very conservative views, definitely won't feel good in a striptease place. There were plenty of other ways to keep him occupied: Someone could ask for a favor, he could have witnessed something - someone getting shot in the hood? Stealing from one of his part suppliers? Perhaps the car could be even stolen - before he finishes with it. And this exclude the most straight forward - someone calling him to do a job - (he is a shadowrunner). So I don't know, I saw countless opportunities to keep him engaged even if he would be totally obsessed with the car.
I would have wrote that some of these things happened but I got the feeling that we do not move the story - just our chars and well... Like I see now plenty of ways to include Tedd in the story- I saw plenty of ways to keep him occupied. I guess it boils down to play style. For the sake of being argumentative, if the two had a flat tire - I doubt they would have been replaced so quickly and they would have been delayed just as much.
It was purely a GM decision to decide to drop the player over this - and sends a message that we have to do exactly what you want us to - what leaves too little freedom for my taste. I mean - Gunderson could have called to yell at him to get to the place RIGHT NOW, for crying out loud. He would have turned away... When we WANT to find a solution we can find countless of them.
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Well if it is my decision only then we will continue with the Tedd thread. If you remove yourself too far from the campaign however you will be doing what you want which means you will have to take the initiative for the story to move. The reason I dropped you from the group thread was that you had removed yourself from the group to do your own thing and I didn't see any reason to clutter the story line thread with your side story.
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You could have Sky join us for our run. We are just at the planning stage and still at the Last Round.
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I'll at least complete this one first.
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Hopefully it's not what I think it is.
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Let's just have Tedd handles the car transfer via matrix - and arrives to meet Jake few minutes later after Oz has inspected the car. Late enough to annoy Jake but not late enough to lose the job.
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He has posted in Tedd maybe you can try to roleplay your way back on the job? I thought Gunderson was going to kill me (maybe even literally) after my recent episode. Maybe you two can meet halfway?
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Sure. We might be able to get you back on the job. I guess it depends on your reaction. You were so adamant about the car thing, I guess I just assumed. I'll own that.
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Casing the joint (Visual Perception) (http://orokos.com/roll/479903): 9d6t5 0
Lol.. Looks like that hangover is taking its toll.
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I cannot access the dice roller or character sheet from where I am today. Can someone roll the perception check for me and post it?
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If I'm not mistaken, you have Intuition 5, you don't have the skill so -1, and you have Vision Enhancement 2 on your contacts, so a pool of 6d.
Visual perception (http://orokos.com/roll/479906): 6d6t5 2
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I don't know that I need one but apparently I see everything
perception (http://orokos.com/roll/479995): 4d6t5 3
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I have no perception skill. That was certainly a design flaw and I am surprised that I did that. I may have to use some karma to fix that. Thank you for looking at it and rolling for me.
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Yup, I checked again to be sure it wasn't somewhere out of place, but not perception skill anywhere.
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Tedd is awarded 5K for completing his second job. Not a run exactly but it was IC and self driven. Good job,
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Sorry for the lag time folks it's been busy and my phone doesn't connect to this website very well.
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LOL. Okay I get it now. I'm surprised it took me so long to catch on. But is the theme just a red herring? If I know the spirits true name can I control it =P
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Yay. I was actually able to log in from the hospital. First I would like to apologize to all the players who have been left hanging by my absence. Second I am sad to officially call off this game. With my dad in the shape he is in and the extra responsibilities I have had to take on I can no longer reliably run a game to my own standards. Hopefully in the future as my father becomes more independent I will be able to begin another. I am still around and Ennui might be posting for me on some occasions until my dad goes home and internet becomes more stable. Thank you all for your lparticipation and understanding.
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Stuttrboy,
I wish you and your father well and hope your father will make a full recovery.
I enjoyed the game while it lasted and hopefully things will allow you to play again in the future.
Good luck to you and your father.