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« on: <01-30-15/1640:57> »
A new Tumblr entry: The Proofing Process...

A pretty detailed summary of the process CGL is currently using to proof books prior to sending them to print.

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« Reply #1 on: <01-30-15/1655:41> »
Aww, they used one of my pages.  ;)

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« Reply #2 on: <01-30-15/1659:22> »
That is pretty nifty - I love the behind-the-curtain look at things.  It gives me even more respect for Catalyst that they're going to lengths to show some transparency when they don't need to.
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« Reply #3 on: <01-31-15/1555:12> »
An unique opportunity to see how the proofing process works...

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Bloody Business, page 116
Though still the dominant syndicate accross the Iberian Peninsula and along the French Riviera up to Monaco, the Asociacón has suffered from competition by the Arabic Al-Akhirah Aswad Mayia in Andalusia with ties to AA corporation Meridional Agronomics.

The correct spelling is "Al-Akhirah Aswad Majid" or "Al-Akhirah Aswad Mayid". Shadows of Europe uses the latter to originally introduce it on page 157. It clearly states the last word is the Arabic for "Glorious", which is actually transliterated in English as "Majid" (however, I wonder if "Mayid" is not the regular transliteration in Spanish).
"Mayia", which appeared in Shadows of Europe, Ghost Cartels, Vice and The Clutch of Dragons, is a repeated mistake that carries on, with no actual meaning in Arabic.

Also, I somewhat doubt Rolf Bremen should only be in his late forties in 2075, as he already was head of S-K Prime for some time in february 2061, and had been a MET2000 mercenary long before that.

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« Reply #4 on: <02-01-15/1032:28> »
That is pretty nifty - I love the behind-the-curtain look at things.  It gives me even more respect for Catalyst that they're going to lengths to show some transparency when they don't need to.

They're showing transparency after they delivered a string of sub-par products. I'm amazed that the process they show is all new for them and seen as an improvement: it should be a standard process for any serious publishing company.

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« Reply #5 on: <02-01-15/1141:16> »
That is pretty nifty - I love the behind-the-curtain look at things.  It gives me even more respect for Catalyst that they're going to lengths to show some transparency when they don't need to.

They're showing transparency after they delivered a string of sub-par products. I'm amazed that the process they show is all new for them and seen as an improvement: it should be a standard process for any serious publishing company.

No one is debating the fact that this should be considered standard practice.  I certainly am not anyway.  What I'm saying is that Catalyst is making every effort possible to regain that trust that they lost, and they should be commended for doing so.
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« Reply #6 on: <02-01-15/1203:24> »
Yup i agree. It seems to be working. Run faster was an almost infinitely better product than street grim. Keep up the good work gents
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« Reply #7 on: <02-01-15/1221:34> »
That is pretty nifty - I love the behind-the-curtain look at things.  It gives me even more respect for Catalyst that they're going to lengths to show some transparency when they don't need to.

They're showing transparency after they delivered a string of sub-par products. I'm amazed that the process they show is all new for them and seen as an improvement: it should be a standard process for any serious publishing company.

You mean products that merely show that they're produced by imperfect and fallible humans rather than god-like beings with no flaws? The latter seems to be what the modern gamer expects out of a book these days despite how unrealistic it is.
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« Reply #8 on: <02-01-15/1252:57> »
At least they are talking about it. :)

We as players have asked for more communication from them and this is one such step. 

Not every item they put out will be ground breaking news or even a revelation, but by sharing the path along the way with us it will reassure a lot of folk they ARE trying.

Of course the Proof is in the P.U.D.D.I.N.G (Putting Up Demonstrably Desirable Information for eNhancing Gameplay)  ;)
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« Reply #9 on: <02-01-15/1315:38> »
It's not so much a difference in process as it is a difference in scale.  I was brought on post-Run & Gun, so I can't really speak to how many people were proofing a single ms back then, but it's expanded significantly.

Thanks for the Arabic typo catch--I suspect that it's a matter of a typo surviving various editions.  I can catch typos in German, but that's an extremely redundant skill when it comes to Shadowrun.

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« Reply #10 on: <02-01-15/1744:45> »
The post said the process is new, not all-new, and it would be a mistake to assume many of the elements in this process were not in place in previous processes. Put simply, having multiple peope review and comment on PDFs has always been part of the process. The changes are more about how those comments are gathered and processed.

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« Reply #11 on: <02-01-15/1915:13> »
Thanks Jason...great seeing you post more frequently these days.as noted above, the increased communication is noted and appreciated. Now if we could just figure out how to get you to include some juicy leaks and tidbits... ;)

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« Reply #12 on: <02-01-15/2109:57> »
I've been meaning to do that for a while. Trying to work it into the schedule.

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« Reply #13 on: <02-01-15/2129:04> »
End each month with a paragraph of 'What we did this month that we can talk about". A great way to end the last Friday of each month by reflecting on how much was accomplished and a way to track the individual teams at a single moment. Can even use it to realign your time with the individual teams for the upcoming month.

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« Reply #14 on: <02-01-15/2136:33> »
I've been meaning to do that for a while. Trying to work it into the schedule.

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You've been meaning to give us juicy leaks and tidbits? I can get behind that.