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aaron_1706

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« Reply #285 on: <12-21-14/2056:00> »

You claimed I said it was solely different syringes and medicines. I never did. I made abundantly clear that it was more than that. On the other hand, the medkit descriptions all go 'all of the above + <....>' so going you're adding a few things' is a decent summary if short. Plus you talked about what you expected the differences were. But there is no expectation if you know what they say, so your phrasing suggested you did not know the contents of different levels of medkits yourself.

When you said, "All you're doing is adding a few more specialized things to your box. Why would adding some syringes, special medicines and such be impossible to do?", I interpreted "and such" to be related to special medicines and syringes that you had specifically mentioned.  That's how I read your statement.  As I already stated in my last post, I apologize if I misunderstood you.  Furthermore, you asked "impossible to do", which I never said it would be, hence my request that you read my OP.

Now, as for why I used the word "expectation", it is simple.  When someone asks me why I think something in the book is "odd", I will comment on the contrast between what I would expect to be printed relative to what is printed.  I was commenting that since the size different between a Rating 3 and a Rating 4 is so distinct, and the differences involves an upgrade in software, my expectation would be that the higher rating software involves a larger industrial designed casing to hold the expanded footprint, that the additional material components need more space, and that the larger storage capacity would also require a package more along the lines of a handheld case.  If it was easily fit into a smaller package, then I wouldn't have expected Rating 4+ to be so large, necessarily.  Hence, why I find it "odd", from my own personal point of view


You should report any posts that you feel violate the rules of this site, but constantly publicizing it is unnecessary.



And note, that while you may disagree with me, all of my posts have been clearly related to rules of shadowrun.  Zeconster's post below is the very definition of off topic.
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« Reply #286 on: <12-21-14/2305:50> »
We get it, aaron: you made wrong assumptions, misunderstood his posts, were rude about it, refuse to apologize, and refuse to realize you're derailing the topic with your bad behavior. Really, we get it.

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« Reply #287 on: <12-22-14/0134:20> »
I still don't understand what medkit upgrading has to do with upgrading cyberware.  First off, the two things are very far apart from each other.  Secondly, we still haven't gotten the 5th edition equivalent of Augmentation so there's no reason to think you won't see upgrade rules later.  Finally, Bullets & Bandages does a great job of explaining that when you upgrade a medkit from, say Rating 3 to Rating 4, you can still only use the medkit 3 times (due to lack of space in the medkit to do more than swapping out some items).  So I really don't understand what is going on there.  Aaron, if you're curious more about how upgrading medkits work, you should read Bullets & Bandages.  If you want to know how upgrading cyberware works, you should wait for the book.  And if you want to understand how not to piss people off, you should read How to Win Friends and Influence People:P
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« Reply #288 on: <12-22-14/0202:12> »
I still don't understand what medkit upgrading has to do with upgrading cyberware.

The conversation added Gas Vents and Commlinks being upgraded, so I thought mentioning Medkits would be relevant, you know, since they are also not cyberware, but do have optional rules for upgrade.
  First off, the two things are very far apart from each other.  Secondly, we still haven't gotten the 5th edition equivalent of Augmentation so there's no reason to think you won't see upgrade rules later.  Finally, Bullets & Bandages does a great job of explaining that when you upgrade a medkit from, say Rating 3 to Rating 4, you can still only use the medkit 3 times (due to lack of space in the medkit to do more than swapping out some items).  So I really don't understand what is going on there.  Aaron, if you're curious more about how upgrading medkits work, you should read Bullets & Bandages.  If you want to know how upgrading cyberware works, you should wait for the book.  And if you want to understand how not to piss people off, you should read How to Win Friends and Influence People:P

Ya, I have bullets and bandages, and have read the section about medkit upgrading.  It doesn't really confuse me to be honest though.  I don't have a problem with not pissing people off either, but Michael is very sensitive, he got upset at me literally quoting his own language back to him.  I will never worry myself with someone of that nature.

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« Reply #289 on: <12-22-14/0717:57> »
Given that the matter has been discussed a bit here, could the essence of the line
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So  you don’t really need to be able to see the target—you can cast these spells blindfolded or with artificial image enhancement - as long as you’ve got a clear line of fire.
regarding targeting indirect spells maybe be added to the list?  :)
Good one. Unlike the massive debate about other details, this one is cleanly-cut in the rules. I oughta add that soon.
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« Reply #290 on: <12-22-14/1007:57> »
Due to circumstances I am withdrawing from the forum.
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« Reply #291 on: <12-22-14/1046:06> »
Michael,

I am truly sorry to see you go. You have helped me understand Shadowrun a lot and helped make sense of what is a really intimidating rules set for a newcomer.

All the best, and I for one am really sorry to see you go, especially due to the ill mannered.

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« Reply #292 on: <12-22-14/1049:23> »
Hope everything is okay health and home-wise and that the absence is only temporary.
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« Reply #293 on: <03-27-15/0145:00> »
Reddit user Draxtier, pointed out that mental direction and manipulation spells don't work in the astral.

SR5 p314

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When a magician is astrally projecting, her mind has stepped out for the moment. Mental detection and manipulation spells targeting the physical body of an astrally projecting mage simply do not work, although other spells do. Although if you really want to mess up a magician without killing her, you can move her body away from where she left it.

So, no mind control or no mind link.

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« Reply #294 on: <06-23-15/1701:27> »
Great work! Thank you!

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« Reply #295 on: <11-09-16/2244:39> »
Thanks so much for doing this.