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Cyber weaponry: what's the point?

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« Reply #30 on: <07-17-15/1107:33> »
No, if a SIN scanner is asking for more info, it couldn't verify the SIN, that is not the same as a "rejected" response. A rejected response your SIN is blown. More info means litterally more info is required....
I was using it as an example cause if a shadowrunner is a SINer going through a security check point the asking for more information isnt going to matter mechanics wise cause thats the persons legal SIN

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« Reply #31 on: <07-17-15/1134:36> »
Wait, does that mean that you bring your LEGAL SIN to the run?

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« Reply #32 on: <07-17-15/1151:51> »
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Cyberlimb is legal.  MADs aren't image scanners, they're fairly simple.  If there is metal they go *ping*.
For an illegal, metal weapon inside a metal cyberlimb, they go ... ? ::)

After pinging a MAD scanner, if you're subjected to a physical or visual search (ie; being patted down, or showing your cyber limb), then the non-metal materials don't matter. If they put you through a cyberware scanner, then the non-metal materials don't matter.

Ping, or a quiet beep, or an AR pop-up.  Whatever.  You're not going to have sirens going off every time someone with a Data Jack, or forgets to take off a belt and walks through a check point.  TSA doesn't scramble a SWAT team each time something pings at an airport, it's an incredibly dull, routine activity.  Handled quietly (most of the time), and they are literally running down an internal check list.  "Did you completely empty your pockets?"  "Are you wearing a belt?"  blah, blah, blah.

And yes, possibly your cyberlimb will be subject to a pat down.  *shrug*  If they're able to spot a -10 concealment with a perception test, you were likely screwed anyway.  But you should have a considerable dice pool advantage on this check.

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« Reply #33 on: <07-17-15/1155:18> »
Ya I suspect going into a satellite corp run office is going to be easier than going through the TSA even border crossing they dont ask you to step out of the car and walk through a MAD or Cyberware scanner

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« Reply #34 on: <07-17-15/1209:49> »
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Cyberlimb is legal.  MADs aren't image scanners, they're fairly simple.  If there is metal they go *ping*.
For an illegal, metal weapon inside a metal cyberlimb, they go ... ? ::)

After pinging a MAD scanner, if you're subjected to a physical or visual search (ie; being patted down, or showing your cyber limb), then the non-metal materials don't matter. If they put you through a cyberware scanner, then the non-metal materials don't matter.

Ping, or a quiet beep, or an AR pop-up.  Whatever.  You're not going to have sirens going off every time someone with a Data Jack, or forgets to take off a belt and walks through a check point.  TSA doesn't scramble a SWAT team each time something pings at an airport, it's an incredibly dull, routine activity.  Handled quietly (most of the time), and they are literally running down an internal check list.  "Did you completely empty your pockets?"  "Are you wearing a belt?"  blah, blah, blah.

And yes, possibly your cyberlimb will be subject to a pat down.  *shrug*  If they're able to spot a -10 concealment with a perception test, you were likely screwed anyway.  But you should have a considerable dice pool advantage on this check.
MAD scanner? The cyberlimb metal registers. 0:1

Physical or visual check? The cybergun is internal. 0:2

Cyberware scanning? Completely ignores the lack of metal. 0:3

If a MAD scan positive result leads to a pat down, then you take an urban combat or an internal weapon. When do you want an internal urban combat? Seems like never. That can't be right, can it?

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« Reply #35 on: <07-17-15/1221:06> »
Because its cool.  Duh. 

But I can see your point, the anit-MAD properties of weapons concealed in a Cyberlimb are mostly a marketing hook. 

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« Reply #36 on: <07-17-15/1226:09> »
Except you can just declare that you have a cyberhand so when it shows up on the cyberscanner they arent all wtf is dis? same with cyberware scanner I suspect middle to low lifesyle wage slaves still have cyber replacements