[welldressedgent]

This weapon should come back. Not as an smg though. My thought based on SR4e:

Ak-97 Carbine (assault rifle)
Acc 5, DV 9p, Ap -2, Mode SA/BF/FA, RC (1), Ammo 30(c), Avail 4R, Cost 850¥. Folding stock. Conceal +4 with stock retracted. Not quite sure of the price or the range. And maybe DV should be 10P. Sound reasonable?

[Herr Brackhaus]

At our table we allow all ARs to be converted into "carbines" by adding a folding stock. Same exact weapon, but with better concealability when the stock is collapsed.

[adzling]

if you check the Concealability table I posted in the other thread you'll notice that an AK with folding stock (folded!) and a shortened barrel (in hard targets) has a Conceability of +3.

Put Chameleon coating on it and it drops to +2.

[MijRai]

My suggestion as for stats for any carbine version would be an integral short-barrel and folding stock, keep the base firearm's stats, but lower the range increments to SMG. 

[bangbangtequila]

My suggestion as for stats for any carbine version would be an integral short-barrel and folding stock, keep the base firearm's stats, but lower the range increments to SMG.

^This is, literally, exactly what a carbine is.

[Rift_0f_Bladz]

My suggestion as for stats for any carbine version would be an integral short-barrel and folding stock, keep the base firearm's stats, but lower the range increments to SMG.

^This is, literally, exactly what a carbine is.

+1!

[welldressedgent]

Yeah the image in SR4e is identical for both Ak97 weapons.

Consensus seems to be keep DV 10p but drop to Acc 4 (short barrel). I'd houserule you can still make barrel mods - lame otherwise.

SMG ranges? Dunno, according to this http://www.diffen.com/difference/M16_Rifle_vs_M4_Carbine page IRL M4 isn't that much less than M16. Might go with 80% of assault rifle ranges. Or 90%. Or just stay the same.

Not a gun person, so thx for enlightenment.

-g

[adzling]

Just use the rules from Hard Targets for barrel shortening.

[MijRai]

I suggest using SMG ranges just because cutting things by percentages is basically making a new range increment, and using a firearm in Shadowrun is almost always in the short to medium ranges anyways. 

Like I said before, make the carbine version's barrel integral; you can stack integral mods with aftermarket ones.