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Title: Forum Squatters
Post by: FastJack on <09-13-10/1655:10>
I saw a post over on Dumpshock how someone came over to check it out the new forums, but didn't register since their handle had already been taken over here by a 'squatter'. Sure enough, I looked it up on the user list and it looks like someone simply grabbed the name and hasn't used the account at all.

Will there be a periodic culling of zero-post accounts? And/or will there be a way for people to request an account with no activity to be purged so they can claim the handle as their own?
Title: Re: Forum Squatters
Post by: Doc Chaos on <09-14-10/0025:36>
Some people I know register just to have better overview over what they already read, but never post. So deleting all 0 post accounts might be problematic.
Title: Re: Forum Squatters
Post by: FastJack on <09-14-10/0038:52>
True, but there are a number of accounts that signed up and haven't been on since (the last logged in time is less than 10 minutes from their registered time).
Title: Re: Forum Squatters
Post by: Doc Chaos on <09-14-10/0103:53>
Well, if there's a filter for that, KILL IT! KILL IT WITH FIRE!!!
Title: Re: Forum Squatters
Post by: Irian on <09-14-10/0529:59>
Whatever you took, I hope you brought enough for the whole class...
Title: Re: Forum Squatters
Post by: Doc Chaos on <09-14-10/0542:13>
I did, but accidentally swallowed it all  ::)
Title: Re: Forum Squatters
Post by: Critias on <09-14-10/1334:07>
Some people I know register just to have better overview over what they already read, but never post. So deleting all 0 post accounts might be problematic.
I don't think it's so much an issue of all 0-post accounts, so much as folks that seem to be purposefully squatting on someone else's name and then never logging back in.
Title: Re: Forum Squatters
Post by: FastJack on <09-14-10/1344:52>
Some people I know register just to have better overview over what they already read, but never post. So deleting all 0 post accounts might be problematic.
I don't think it's so much an issue of all 0-post accounts, so much as folks that seem to be purposefully squatting on someone else's name and then never logging back in.
One of the reasons I'm REALLY glad I got FastJack before someone squatted on it...
Title: Re: Forum Squatters
Post by: Usda Beph on <09-14-10/1411:18>
Some people I know register just to have better overview over what they already read, but never post. So deleting all 0 post accounts might be problematic.
I don't think it's so much an issue of all 0-post accounts, so much as folks that seem to be purposefully squatting on someone else's name and then never logging back in.
Why on God's Scorcher Earth would someone be that childish? Assuming you mean they take the name so someone else cannot?
Title: Re: Forum Squatters
Post by: FastJack on <09-14-10/1418:46>
It happens. When I read the post on DumpShock yesterday, LurkerOutThere couldn't get his name here (although looking at the members list, it may have changed since LurkerOutThere is now registered and logged in today).

And names like "The Laughing Man", "NetCat" and "NeonSamurai" have all been claimed and not logged in to since shortly after they were registered.
Title: Re: Forum Squatters
Post by: Doc Chaos on <09-14-10/1421:33>
Why on God's Scorcher Earth would someone be that childish? Assuming you mean they take the name so someone else cannot?

Its the internet. Jerks never had an easier time...
Title: Re: Forum Squatters
Post by: Usda Beph on <09-14-10/1428:12>
Why on God's Scorcher Earth would someone be that childish? Assuming you mean they take the name so someone else cannot?

Its the internet. Jerks never had an easier time...
And they say the only stupid question is the one you don't ask! :-X
Title: Re: Forum Squatters
Post by: Doc Chaos on <09-14-10/1433:53>
In my opinion, there are no stupid questions, only stupid people (which would be people who don't learn from the answers they are given our find out themselves).
Title: Re: Forum Squatters
Post by: toturi on <09-14-10/2243:12>
You could make them prove that they are not a spambot or a squatter before they are given posting full posting privileges like over at DSF.

Well, for the last 499 members, no one impersonated me. Probably too notorious.
Title: Re: Forum Squatters
Post by: Critias on <09-14-10/2354:58>
And names like "The Laughing Man", "NetCat" and "NeonSamurai" have all been claimed and not logged in to since shortly after they were registered.
Some of those may -- or may not -- have been intentional, on the part of the mods.  It's not at all uncommon for RPG or wargame forums to have admins snatch up "in universe" names like that to use them, down the road someday, for cool official stuff.  That may or may not be the case here (I genuinely don't know)...but to me it's a non-issue.

What DOES suck is swiping someone's known forum handle, like happened to Lurker.  It's BS, plain and simple, and (just my opinion, here) if the mods PM that handle and no one answers in X amount of time with a good reason to keep the name, the account should be wiped to Lurker can have his friggin' name back.

With any internet handle, there's always the chance it's some pop culture reference and, as far as I know, "LurkerOutThere" is from a tv show I'm not familiar with, or something.  I know it's not impossible for someone else to like Thieves World or Classical history, so there's a chance someone could be "Critias" on here without meaning to poach my name.

A slim chance, but a chance.
Title: Re: Forum Squatters
Post by: Bull on <09-15-10/1747:15>
AFAIK, the mods didn't really grab any in game handles (Though I suggested it).  With the exception of Captain Chaos, I think.  I mostly wanted to lock them down because, no offense to Fastjack or anyone else, I'm a fan of finding your own nickname, and not just cribbing one from the game whose forum you're playing on and posting to.  I'm a fan of individual identity.  *shrug*

As for Squattors, dunno.  I'll kick one of the mods when he gets home from work tonight and point him at this, and let them discuss it and decide if it's something to deal with.

Bull
Title: Re: Forum Squatters
Post by: FastJack on <09-15-10/1757:19>
None taken. When I registered, I thought it was a long shot. But I burned some Edge and tried for it anyway. ;D
Title: Re: Forum Squatters
Post by: Usda Beph on <09-16-10/1429:56>
[River Tamm]Lurker is a lazy name.[/River Tamm] Now if for rinstance someone came in here as say, JadeHellbringer. That is a totally original name by a known personality and is just wrong.
Title: Re: Forum Squatters
Post by: Jadehellbringer on <09-16-10/1727:28>
[River Tamm]Lurker is a lazy name.[/River Tamm] Now if for rinstance someone came in here as say, JadeHellbringer. That is a totally original name by a known personality and is just wrong.

"Iiiii'm the cult of personaaaaalityyyyyy...."

OK, as far as this goes, the decision would be made higher up the totem pole than my mere moderator status, but certainly can be looked into. For now, to be honest, we're so busy trying to deal with all the thrice-damned spambots to do much else! ;)
Title: Re: Forum Squatters
Post by: Chaotic Insane on <09-16-10/2318:57>
I've only stumbled on someone taking Chaotic Insane before I did ONCE. Which is impressive, considering it's a variation on "chaotic nutzo" which is a bit of an inside joke at our table. I was more than a little miffed since finding an SN that ISN'T taken on an MMO is a feat.

But we have people copying other's names on my horse sim aaaaall the time, especially since there isn't a filter stopping anyone from sharing names. This would be all fine and dandy if they didn't try and pass off as being a spare account for a well-known player, mods, or the admin. Or just random players that pissed them off, copy their name, and then spam chatrooms with obscenities trying to pin it on their target like we can't see IP adresses. *eyeroll*

As far as people who don't post... Well, if my dad wasn't here I'd JUST lurk, and even then I'm still lurking probably twice as much as I'm actively posting. I'm surprised Doomy's posted as much as he has since he's usually a grade A lurker. However, stealing other people's SNs and just lurking, while not as bad as trying to impersonate that person, is infuriating. There'd be some shit flying if someone tried to take Chaotic Insane (or black magius/black robe) anywhere related to where I'm actually kinda known (horse sims/horse art community on dA).
Title: Re: Forum Squatters
Post by: Bull on <09-17-10/0014:25>
[River Tamm]Lurker is a lazy name.[/River Tamm] Now if for rinstance someone came in here as say, JadeHellbringer. That is a totally original name by a known personality and is just wrong.

It's not Lurker, actually, but LurkerOutThere.  So it is a fairly unique name.  He's quite vocal on Dumpshock, and he's clashed with a few folks there.  So it's entirely possible that if someone is squatting his name, they're doing it to be a douchenozzle.

Bull
Title: Re: Forum Squatters
Post by: TranKirsaKali on <09-18-10/1416:03>
Unfortunately Bull is right.  Personally I like Lurkeroutthere.  We get along fine.  And the reality is this makes me glad I didn't post that much over there.
Title: Re: Forum Squatters
Post by: Angelone on <09-18-10/1510:03>
It's kinda crappy that someone would steal another persons name like this. I hope LurkerOutThere get's his name back. Can't belive someone would do this to a fellow Omahain *shakes fist*
Title: Re: Forum Squatters
Post by: Juxtamon on <09-18-10/1635:04>
I'm lucky (or odd) enough that my favourite nicknames are not generally ones that others come up with, or steal, or squat on.  That's so visual...

And Bull, I applaud you specifically for the term 'douchenozzle'.   That's up there with calling someone a Belgian chicken sock.

Heh.

Title: Re: Forum Squatters
Post by: Longshot23 on <11-08-10/2300:34>
None taken. When I registered, I thought it was a long shot. But I burned some Edge and tried for it anyway. ;D

No relation . . .
 ;) ::)
Title: Re: Forum Squatters
Post by: The Laughing Man on <11-11-10/0154:33>
I apologize if it appears that I'm "squatting" on someone's name. I chose this name because I'm fan of the canon character (and of the GITs character as well.) Not to keep someone else off it.

I don't post often out of laziness, not to be a jerk . Sorry if I've given the wrong impression :)
Title: Re: Forum Squatters
Post by: FastJack on <11-11-10/0844:55>
Apologies TLM! I was only going by what I saw in the statistics when I made the post.
Title: Re: Forum Squatters
Post by: Usda Beph on <11-11-10/1344:05>
Howmany of our 5300 members are spambots? :P
Title: Re: Forum Squatters
Post by: Caine Hazen on <11-11-10/1405:49>
Actually, any spambots that post are banned, and the banned list is removed from the members list, so any spammers that haven't posted are bad spammers anyway.
Title: Re: Forum Squatters
Post by: FastJack on <11-11-10/1439:42>
Wow... that must be depressing. To be such Epic Fail that you Fail at Spamming.
Title: Re: Forum Squatters
Post by: Usda Beph on <11-12-10/1424:29>
Actually, any spambots that post are banned, and the banned list is removed from the members list, so any spammers that haven't posted are bad spammers anyway.
HOLY CRAP! Thats a lot of members for a forum so new!
Title: Re: Forum Squatters
Post by: mattness on <11-21-10/1951:39>
Actually, any spambots that post are banned, and the banned list is removed from the members list, so any spammers that haven't posted are bad spammers anyway.

It doesn't work like that.

Sort members by website, and u gonna see, that lot's of spambots promote (positioning. SEO blackhat version) some sites. Some of them got links not in the 'website' but in 'signature' box.
Do you really want to check all users bb code in signature?

Of course, you can ignore the problem, but shadowrun4.com domain gets hurt in Google/bing/yahoo searches (dodgy links founded => search engine(s) don't trust domain)
Title: Re: Forum Squatters
Post by: lurkeroutthere on <12-03-10/1241:28>
Hey Guys

Sorry i'm posting this so late. Once I ifigured out someone was squatting my name (which had me oddly flattered) I PM'd Jason and he was kind enough to drop that person a note and they were kind enough to leave the name voluntarily. So if you see any posts by me the opinions are my own.

Truth be told I havn't been posting a lot on either forum lately as I did a lot of posting from work and they have instituted a games related web filter that I don't feel like troubling with subverting. So while I do browse around here I don't post unless something really catches my eye or I'm announcing a local game or something.
Title: Re: Forum Squatters
Post by: Adarael on <01-21-11/1142:53>
I'd just like to jump in and note that, should there be a cull of low-post accounts, I am actually the same Adarael as on Dumpshock.com and everywhere else on the net. As far as I know, I'm the only person ever to have used or be using this handle. So please don't delete me, I just nabbed it to make sure nobody can masquerade as me!
Title: Re: Forum Squatters
Post by: Loki on <02-12-11/1548:14>
It happens. When I read the post on DumpShock yesterday, LurkerOutThere couldn't get his name here (although looking at the members list, it may have changed since LurkerOutThere is now registered and logged in today).

And names like "The Laughing Man", "NetCat" and "NeonSamurai" have all been claimed and not logged in to since shortly after they were registered.

No offence Jack, but I expected Catalyst to do that anyway and give the names to employees. For a while I thought you were one not just a poster roped into mod work.  ;)
Title: Re: Forum Squatters
Post by: Bull on <02-12-11/1708:56>
We talked about doing that, Loki.  But ultimately it would have been a lot of work to register all those accounts, we inevitably would have missed a few names anyway (How far back and obscure do we go?  Novels, 1st ed sourcebooks, any ShadowTalkers?). 

Plus, I'm a fan of using the same handle cross the web.  I use Bull damn near everywhere (and if I can't get that, Bulldrek, which is usually open), and I find keeping track of multiple "identities" to be a giant pain (For instance, with the exception of a couple of folks I know pretty well from outside the forums, if you use a different nick here and on Dumpshock, I probably don't realize you're the same person).  And some people use SR names as handles elsewhere.  So making them choose a new handle here because we locked theirs out would suck.  (though there's not much we can do if someone else grabs it first).

That said, I'm also a fan of creating your own identity rather than "borrowing" one from fiction.  I've given FJ crap about his handle once or twice :)

Bull
Title: Re: Forum Squatters
Post by: theKernel on <02-12-11/1726:30>
Well, if there's a filter for that, KILL IT! KILL IT WITH FIRE!!!
I do like fire.....
Title: Re: Forum Squatters
Post by: FastJack on <02-12-11/2327:22>
That said, I'm also a fan of creating your own identity rather than "borrowing" one from fiction.  I've given FJ crap about his handle once or twice :)

Bull
As I said, I originally did it on a lark, and I didn't really realize just HOW MUCH I'd be on the forums here (heck, on other boards, it took me over two years to get 2000+ posts). I guess I'm just trying to live up to the rep. ;)
Title: Re: Forum Squatters
Post by: Kot on <02-13-11/0445:02>
Hey, he lives up to the handle. That's all that matters. Isn't it?
Title: Re: Forum Squatters
Post by: PeterSmith on <02-13-11/0856:51>
Hey, he lives up to the handle. That's all that matters. Isn't it?

I feel sorry for FJ's significant other. ^-^
Title: Re: Forum Squatters
Post by: FastJack on <02-13-11/1105:48>
Hey, he lives up to the handle. That's all that matters. Isn't it?

I feel sorry for FJ's significant other. ^-^
Alas, there isn't one right now. That might explain the free time to post as much as I do, but when there was a SO, it wasn't that different (and no, she didn't leave because of stuff like this...)
Title: Re: Forum Squatters
Post by: Outrider45 on <02-14-11/2349:02>
Hey, he lives up to the handle. That's all that matters. Isn't it?

I feel sorry for FJ's significant other. ^-^
Alas, there isn't one right now. That might explain the free time to post as much as I do, but when there was a SO, it wasn't that different (and no, she didn't leave because of stuff like this...)

Please. You'd be this insane on this board regardless of status. Shadowrun is to FastJack as cocaine/pornstars/hotel rooms/rehab/bad press is to Charlie Sheen.  ;D
Title: Re: Forum Squatters
Post by: FastJack on <02-15-11/0023:56>
Hey, he lives up to the handle. That's all that matters. Isn't it?

I feel sorry for FJ's significant other. ^-^
Alas, there isn't one right now. That might explain the free time to post as much as I do, but when there was a SO, it wasn't that different (and no, she didn't leave because of stuff like this...)

Please. You'd be this insane on this board regardless of status. Shadowrun is to FastJack as cocaine/pornstars/hotel rooms/rehab/bad press is to Charlie Sheen.  ;D
Remember kids, "Stay off crack, drink chocolate milk" (http://offthebench.nbcsports.com/2011/02/11/charlie-sheen-tells-ucla-basebal-team-stay-off-crack-drink-chocolate-milk/).
Title: Re: Forum Squatters
Post by: Usda Beph on <02-15-11/1245:48>
Coming from Him that was Hil Larry Us ;D