Ok, I just want to see if I am reading this properly.
So my understanding of Matrix Perception is that if an icon is not running silent, and is within 100 meters of your PHYSICAL location (not VR location), you spot it automatically. If not, you can make a Matrix Perception test to spot it.
page 235
"You can automatically spot the icons of devices that
are not running silent within 100 meters of your physical
location. No matter where you are in the Matrix, your
commlink or deck (or your living persona) only has its
own antenna for wireless signals, so this distance is measured
from your physical location no matter where you
are in the Matrix. Beyond this distance, you need to make
a Matrix Perception Test (p. 241) to find a specific icon."
So far so good.
Now, if an icon is running silent, you first need to make a matrix perception test to see if something is running silent and then make another perception test to see what is running silent.
Page 235
"If you’re trying to find an icon that’s running silent (or
if you’re running silent and someone’s looking for you),
the first thing you need to do is have some idea that a
hidden icon is out there. You can do this with a hit from
a Matrix Perception Test; asking if there are icons running
silent in the vicinity (either in the same host or within 100
meters) can be a piece of information you learn with a hit."
Now, notice that they use that same 100 meter distance(or same host) as the limit to whether or not you can spot the silent icon. It doesn't specifically say the second time "within 100 meters of your PHYSICAL location" - but it doesn't seem a stretch to read it there.
Here is where I think (again, unless I'm reading it wrong) the problem comes in. So imagine a team of shadowrunners is infiltrating a corp facility, and they are running silent. Does that mean if the corp spider is not on site, or if the facility is big enough that the spider can be more than 100 meters away from the team, that he cannot spot them at all?
Does this mean that effectively the decker HAS to be in on all the physical penetrations of the team if he wants to mess with the guards' equipment? I know that if he is just hacking into the Host, he can always see the Host from anywhere in the world, and once inside the Host, he can see anything in that Host, but as far as hacking the guards' equipment (which would not be slaved to the Host), if they are running silent, then he just couldn't see them from VR overwatch? Not only that, but if the corporate spider, who is running silent and physically over 100 meters from the team (who are foolishly not running silent) can now start attacking them, while the team's decker can't do anything to the spider, since he is more than 100 meters from the spider, and the spider is more than 100 meters from the teams decker, therefore as long as both are running silent neither can see one another?
Imagine a different example in AR, where a team is outside. Decker A (hostile) is north of the team, but moves to a position where he is within 100 meters of the sammy, but not Decker B. At this point, the sammy can now come under Matrix attack (assuming either he is not running silent or Decker A makes a successful Matrix Perception test), and Decker B has no chance of spotting Decker A, and if Decker B is running silent, Decker A has no chance of spotting Decker B). They may be able to spot him physically, but not see what his Matrix Persona is doing.
Is that right, or am I misreading this?