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« on: <05-01-11/0230:16> »
Why does the Monofilament garrote 16F have a Availability rating so much higher than the whip 12F?  Is it for Johnny Mnemonic fans?
And can the whip be used as a garrote?
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« Reply #1 on: <05-01-11/0536:54> »
A garrote has an anchor/grip/handhold on each end like a wire cheese cutter whereas a whip might sometimes be two-handed, but only on one end like a fishing pole. If you tried to grip the other end of the whip like a garrote it would cut your fingers off at the same time you tried to gack your target. As to the difference in availability, while the whip can cause serious damage even death, the garrote is designed with only one purpose in mind, unless you like having a insanely dangerous cheese cutter.
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« Reply #2 on: <05-01-11/0630:06> »
... not like you could use a monofilament whip to train tigers in a circus.
(Does a whip that thin even make the snapping sound?)

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« Reply #3 on: <05-01-11/0800:41> »
The monofilament whip has a handle on one end and a weight on the other.  That's not unlike a garrote except that there's 2 meters of cord between.

Assuming that the monofilament extends from the handle outward on some kind of reel, I wouldn't have any problem with someone using it as a garrote if they had the skill to do so.  I really don't see the difference between that and regular usage, except that you'd get fewer dice on your attack for lack of reach bonuses.

Short answer.  Sure.  If that's the way you want to describe it.
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« Reply #4 on: <05-01-11/0817:14> »
Trying to use a mf whip without a weighted tip would be like waving a party streamer in calm weather. With no mass to the wire, any cutting has to come by drawing the line through with both ends. That said, you probably don't want to make that weight large enough for someone to hold on to.

I'd be very happy to see a monofilament mesh guillotine, though. Perfect for making square cheese blocks.

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« Reply #5 on: <05-01-11/0838:45> »
Good point, I hear "weight" and thought of something I could hold onto, but that's not necessarily true.
On the other hand, if you use your prosthetic thumb as a counterweight, that could work, though it still means someone else could grab it.
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« Reply #6 on: <05-01-11/1233:10> »
I'm working on a whip with the gecko grip mod; seems like you could slap the weight with your off hand and draw to make a gecko gripped garrote.
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« Reply #7 on: <05-01-11/1632:21> »
 :o
Give it a pilot upgrade and flying propulsion system on the weight.

Heck, use a larger weight and include an electro-shock anti-theft system. This could be fun.

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« Reply #8 on: <05-01-11/1740:55> »
:o
Give it a pilot upgrade and flying propulsion system on the weight.

Heck, use a larger weight and include an electro-shock anti-theft system. This could be fun.

I want a monofilament kusari-gama, now.
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« Reply #9 on: <05-01-11/1926:04> »
Hah, me too.  And with a flying upgrade, so it's remote controlled.  Althought a myomeric kusarigama would probably be more practical.
Actually...could use that for a smart chainlink sword, I guess; alternating sections of myomeric rope and monofilament wire.  Kinda like a really lethal version of whatever Ivy uses in Soul Calibur.

Actually, now I'm trying to figure out how to make it really concealable...Spy Gear rules from Arsenal?  I'm guessing a finger compartment would show up on a scanner.
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« Reply #10 on: <05-01-11/1933:26> »
Hah, me too.  And with a flying upgrade, so it's remote controlled.  Althought a myomeric kusarigama would probably be more practical.
Actually...could use that for a smart chainlink sword, I guess; alternating sections of myomeric rope and monofilament wire.  Kinda like a really lethal version of whatever Ivy uses in Soul Calibur.

Actually, now I'm trying to figure out how to make it really concealable...Spy Gear rules from Arsenal?  I'm guessing a finger compartment would show up on a scanner.

All my non-Awakened characters have finger-monofilament-garrotes. Damn if I love Johnny.
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« Reply #11 on: <05-01-11/2003:17> »
How about a mf whip attached to the end of a cyber finger, then make the finger spin really fast.
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« Reply #12 on: <05-02-11/0048:22> »
Monofilament NetGun.
Fire, watch people drop into little bloody pieces.
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« Reply #13 on: <05-02-11/0049:44> »
Monofilament NetGun.
Fire, watch people drop into little bloody pieces.
Did The Predator have one in Predator 2?
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« Reply #14 on: <05-02-11/0052:29> »
Don't think so, why? O.o
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