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Shadowrun Missions Living Campaign => Living Campaign Discussion => Topic started by: Bull on <05-27-15/0610:24>
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Answering this question before anyone else asks, and the answer is the same as always: 30 days from Print Street Date.
Which means it will not be legal for Origins next week.
I don't know if CGL is planning to have any print copies at Origins for sale (I imagine they would like to, and *if* they can get any there, they will be a batch specially rush-ordered specifically for the con), but either way I cannot say whether it will be Missions Legal for Gen Con until CGL announces a Street Date. IF there are copies at Origins and IF the announced street date for Data Trails is within a couple weeks of Gen Con, I may allow it at Gen Con, but that's a very big if, and no one is allowed to ask me about it between now and then.
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...and no one is allowed to ask me about it between now and then.
When will then be now?
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...and no one is allowed to ask me about it between now and then.
When will then be now?
Soon.
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I hate you guys so very, very much...
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Honestly the one thing I was really hoping data trail would do, was make Techno's playable, and nothing on the list of stuff that has been discussed even made it into the book. I'll agree it certainly helps deckers plenty, and the examples are nice and all, as are the new reality stuff, but honestly I'm just left scratching my head. Do the designers even consider feed back?
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The biggest thing there is Skinlink, an echo so overwhelmingly useful it damned near should have been made a benefit of your first Submersion. Why? because it allows TMs to finally do what Deckers have been able to from core, bypass Host firewalls.
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Ona non-bitching note... three words.
Deep Run Mission.
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I hate you guys so very, very much...
I know.
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I believe the biggest and most important Technomancer buff is the quality to get +2 to fading resist and skinlink.
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I believe the biggest and most important Technomancer buff is the quality to get +2 to fading resist and skinlink.
The former Otaku one?
I actually have issue with the Otaku to Technmancer stuff. Not because it's bad, but because there's a GLARING omission.
Otaku had DataJacks. So, if you wanted to do an Otaku to Technomancer character (I did my first character as one), then you're missing the prereq that they need to have a DataJack.
unless you're going with "they removed it at some point and the essence hole healed" which I hate the idea of. Better to do the DataJack, and add some other neat stuff and take the 1 point Resonance hit.
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I believe the biggest and most important Technomancer buff is the quality to get +2 to fading resist and skinlink.
The former Otaku one?
I actually have issue with the Otaku to Technmancer stuff. Not because it's bad, but because there's a GLARING omission.
Otaku had DataJacks. So, if you wanted to do an Otaku to Technomancer character (I did my first character as one), then you're missing the prereq that they need to have a DataJack.
unless you're going with "they removed it at some point and the essence hole healed" which I hate the idea of. Better to do the DataJack, and add some other neat stuff and take the 1 point Resonance hit.
Seems perfectly fair enough to me... heck in Lockdown there's a couple of Cyber Suits that cost 1 essence that come with a datajack, along with an implanted comlink thus dodging the whole "How do I comcall a technomancer's brain?" issue.
Continuing that line of thought, sacrificing 2 points of Resonance for Mental Gymnasts suit opens some interesting options for a Technomamcer, particularly those rating 4 Skilljack and Skillwires. They do go somewhere to counter the issue of the level of skill investment TMs require
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Listening to the Critical Glitch podcast and there was an announcement by Sinthalix (Ray) that Data Trails would be legal as of the first day of GenCon, July 30th 2015.
Just waiting for the official notice now!
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The SRM FAQ Committee is in the process of reviewing it and will have their proposals to me over the next couple of weeks. Thereafter, proposals will be reviewed and once approved, it will be posted. 30 days is the first day of GenCon, but we're going to push to have it complete prior to that.
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Now that it is the Sunday before GenCon, I have to ask...
Will we be seeing a Missions FAQ update before we arrive at the convention.
I ask as a GM that will be running character creation sessions; It would be nice to familiarize myself with the update before I'm trying to help other people figure it out. Plus it will be nice to know what is legal from Data Trails rather than tell people "you can take what you want, but the FAQ may invalidate it once it's released"
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You should only be using the core book at the Into the Shadows events. You don't have time (and the CDT doesn't carry enough books) to use anything more for a 2-hour chargen event.
But I imagine at this point it's too late to get a new FAQ that can be enforced at Gen Con. Too many of us have too much prep to do on other fronts to get ready for the con. And I imagine few players will have time with this short notice to adjust characters for stuff that got changed in a new FAQ 4 days (or less) before the con. As a GM, I probably won't have time to do much with it, let alone enforce it at Gen Con, even if it came out in the next 5 minutes.
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Unfortunately, this does not address my primary concern that Data Trails will be legal for GenCon whether we have the FAQ or not. There is the possibility that some people sitting at character creations will have their own books and I can not tell them that they can not use them.
On a side note, did anyone running Character creation at Origins run into people just looking to have their Life Module builds or Sum to 10 approved?
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It has been posted. The original plan was to have it up last week, but due to circumstances, it was green lighted today. It is here, on FB, the Agent Dropbox, and the Convention Dropbox.
There's all of 1.5 pages concerning Data Trails, half a page concerning Lockdown and half a page concerning recent questions.
The bulk of it has not been changed as there wasn't enough time to revamp it before GenCon (not with everything else I had to do in preparation for it).
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I thank you for posting it with enough time for me to read it, and it's alright to only address the new books right now, that lets us answer questions.
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On a side note, did anyone running Character creation at Origins run into people just looking to have their Life Module builds or Sum to 10 approved?
I ran a couple of the chargen events, but I didn't see anyone asking for character approvals.
Personally, I won't even address any book other than the main book during the 2-hour convention slot; anything more is beyond the scope of the event, and there's barely time to get multiple players through basic chargen. I've warned players bringing other books with them that I won't do anything with those books because there isn't time.
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when i ran the chargen event the only time i ever broke out the other books is when a guy had a very specific idea for a character that i said "ya your going to take this quality and your going to love it." aside from that there was the rare occasion when i broke out Run N Gun for a few guns and or armor that was character idea specific.
but yes, if you start getting into everything that all the books offer now, you'll never get done. I kept telling my tables "I apoligize but were compressing something that takes me 4-5 hours to do when im building a concept character into 2 hours and im doing it for 4+ people, so we wont be covering absolutely all the different things currently available in the game"