[Herr Brackhaus]

Brings up an interesting question, actually. Would a Mr. Johnson technically be classified as a "wage slave", per se?

[Imveros]

Brings up an interesting question, actually. Would a Mr. Johnson technically be classified as a "wage slave", per se?

not all Mr Johnsons work for corps. Plenty of them are regular folk or other shadow folk looking for plausible denyability!  As for the corp Johnsons they are more likely the higher ups or people trusted by higher ups so i wouldn't call them wage slaves/

[The Wyrm Ouroboros]

'Mr. Johnson' might be a powerful mover and shaker in a corporation, or she might be your little-old-lady Groundhog shaman next door.  'Mr. Johnson is a blanket term for 'the guy/gal who hired us',  There are professional Johnsons, and for the most part they work only with one company ... but they have a lot more leeway than the standard wageslave.

[Reaver]

Professional Johnsons are, on average, more likely to double cross a team as well.... as they have Corp black ops experts they can employ. Where as a 'everyday' Johnson would have to hire on muscle for a double cross...

[Ursus Maior]

Exactly. In fact, the usual reaction of groups I played in/with when counter intel-ing the Johnson and finding out that he is a true corp exec, was changing into complete distrust mode. If someone who works as a corp exec hires the average runner, he/she needs fall-guys.

On the other hand, a true wage slave might of course become a Mr Johnson for some reason. But as he would not have corp funds to back him up, the job might be anything from "stalk my girlfriend" to "wack the competition for my new position".

[The Wyrm Ouroboros]

Now now, most wageslaves aren't that bloodthirsty.  'Make him look bad', though, yeah ...

[Ursus Maior]

Sure, I was just marking extreme points.

[gyrobot]

Now now, most wageslaves aren't that bloodthirsty.  'Make him look bad', though, yeah ...

The fact that most UCAS wageslaves can own a gun and there are possible unsung cases of hood safaris in the sixth world where killing bums is a preferred pastime for more sociopathic wageslaves out there. It is a ratrace and the only reason why one wageslave haven't offed another was due to how tight security is.

[Namikaze]

The fact that most UCAS wageslaves can own a gun and there are possible unsung cases of hood safaris in the sixth world where killing bums is a preferred pastime for more sociopathic wageslaves out there.

Where do you get this info?  I'm not saying you're wrong, I've just never heard of it.  Certainly not to the "most" point with regards to the gun ownership anyway.  The hood safaris jive with the setting, but I don't think this would be commonplace at all.

[The Wyrm Ouroboros]

Well, certainly the idea that the UCAS citizenry can own basic firearms (pistols, hunting arms) is clear, both in the legality information (licensing and such) and just in general 'this used to be part of the US' theme.  The whole 'hood safaris' stuff, well - that's what joining a policlub is about, since just going out cruising with a couple of buddies to kill a bum is equally likely to get them iced in turn.

Hmmm ... there's a run idea.

[Ravensong]

Wageslaves may have the legal right to own a gun, but that doesn't mean they know how to use a firearm, or even exercise their right to own one. They're more likely to imbibe fashionable designer drugs, go slumming in the tourist section of the barrens, or get out their drek watching Shadowrun netvids, than actually go running around shooting SIN-less at night. Just saying.

[gyrobot]

Still a policlub dedicated to purging the world of the Sinless calling themselves "The Guilty Ones" is a great inspiration for antagonists. These guys are "proud" wageslaves who approve of every action of their corporate masters and wants to beat the rest of metahumanity to SIN up. Someone who willingly fights for the Man, even if the Man treats them like shit.

[Namikaze]

Still a policlub dedicated to purging the world of the Sinless calling themselves "The Guilty Ones" is a great inspiration for antagonists. These guys are "proud" wageslaves who approve of every action of their corporate masters and wants to beat the rest of metahumanity to SIN up. Someone who willingly fights for the Man, even if the Man treats them like shit.

I've never heard of this policlub - where did you find info on it?

[The Wyrm Ouroboros]

... Namikaze.  Dude.  He's inventing it.  Not everything is an automatic text reference, y'know?

[Sendaz]

Indeed.  Player creations are a great source for ideas.  Half the reason to come here is to listen to other gamer's ideas and outlooks on things.

But if you would like to see how a more upscale group could do this, check out the short story 'Fair Game' in the Wolf & Raven SR novel.

Granted these are not your normal wageslaves, it's more an exclusive hunters club for the rich kids of high ups, but the base concept is there.