[Sichr]

You mean SR60A? Or SR 6.66ed?

[Reaver]

I think the biggest reason why AIs can't be magical is that they don't have a body! They have no mass, no physical body to speak of... They are just complex code consisting of 1s and 0s. Sure the optical drive/chip/computer has mass/body but again you are talking about a highly processed piece of equipment, and not a flesh and blood thing. From the write up about magic in the main rule book, we know magic doesn't respond well to highly processed items. (hence why healing cyber characters is harder, wreck spells have a higher drain code then mana spells, etc)

Without that physical body to interact with mana, you have no magic rating.
You could always go with the options listed above and have a mage "possessed" by an AI for a magical/techno threat.... And of course there is always GM fiat and your awakened AI is a unique entity.

[Sichr]

well, but why not Resonance?

[Xzylvador]

The books have no Awakened AI's, rendering this entire discussion invalid 

Not buying Cerberus/Eliohahn being an actual Dragon AI ghost-in-a-shell?
Dragons are purely magical beings yet somehow this one turned into an AI... what'll happen if he finds a way back into his body?

[Lacynth40]

Yeah, and notice not even the spirit of a great trapped in the machine has a magic rating. No body, no magic.

[Charybdis]

Yeah, and notice not even the spirit of a great trapped in the machine has a magic rating. No body, no magic.

I don't agree with this logic. Spirits for example, have no 'body' but plenty of magic.

An AI is a creature BORN of the matrix. The dragon-ghgost-in-the-shell is currently the idea of a consciousness being ripped from someone (Awakened or mundane is irrelevent), and roaming the matrix.

This has been done with Matrix ghosts for some time, and is completely legit. However an Awakened AI, a creature born in the Matrix, but having Magical attributes? Hmmm, I'm really not sold on this idea.

And it's definitely not canon possible RAW. At least, not yet (we didn't used to have AI's, technomancers or changelings either, so I'm not ruling it out forever. Am just saying that as it stands, it's not kosher. And IMHO, not a good development point anyway *shrugs*)

[CanRay]

IIRC, he's also not a great, just a dragon.  ONLY a dragon. 

[Reaver]

Spirits seem to be made entirely of mana (they are summoned/escape from the astral plane) hence why body is determined by force. As for the dragon..... We know why he's comatose? Is it the data jack? Did he go comatose when his mind 'escaped' to the matrix?
Until we know why he's in a coma, it's hard to say what happens to a magical entity that's hooked to the matrix.

But once again, it's your game, run it how you want!!

[Parker]

Exactly!!!!

Never forget the acronym 'G.O.D.' --- Gamemaster On Duty. 

[Mirikon]

Exactly!!!!

Never forget the acronym 'G.O.D.' --- Gamemaster On Duty. 

So the Corporate Court Matrix Authority has an entire division of gamers?

[CanRay]

So the Corporate Court Matrix Authority has an entire division of gamers?

Who else would you get?  A bunch of nerds that know how to work together and know each others strategies and habits intricately due to years of experience with potential situations under a variety of conflicts ranging from Stone-Age to Star-Age and everything in between?

[The Wyrm Ouroboros]

well, but why not Resonance?

Have any of you thought that Resonance (and Dissonance) is the way that magic interacts with electronics?  Or that magic has already been a component of an AI's creation?

[RelentlessImp]

well, but why not Resonance?

Have any of you thought that Resonance (and Dissonance) is the way that magic interacts with electronics?  Or that magic has already been a component of an AI's creation?

Channeling Plan 9 are we?

[CanRay]

well, but why not Resonance?

Have any of you thought that Resonance (and Dissonance) is the way that magic interacts with electronics?  Or that magic has already been a component of an AI's creation?

Channeling Plan 9 are we?

No, you see, I have all the proof in there!  *Opens fifteen locks on a container ship that has all the walls slathered with pictures and handwritten notes, with cotton yarn stretching everywhere in various colours*  See, it makes sense now!!!

[RelentlessImp]

well, but why not Resonance?

Have any of you thought that Resonance (and Dissonance) is the way that magic interacts with electronics?  Or that magic has already been a component of an AI's creation?

Channeling Plan 9 are we?

No, you see, I have all the proof in there!  *Opens fifteen locks on a container ship that has all the walls slathered with pictures and handwritten notes, with cotton yarn stretching everywhere in various colours*  See, it makes sense now!!!

But what's with the oni girl chained up in the corner?