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Title: [OOC] A Kriminal Affair
Post by: Volker on <11-12-14/0535:17>
This is the OOC thread for A Kriminal Affair (that is, group 2, GMed by Raven Runner and Volker).

Is there any convention about how and where dice results are displayed?

If I make any assumption about your character in the opening scene that don't fit (e.g. your character doesn't run in the morning), please just tell me!
Title: Re: [OOC] A Kriminal Affair
Post by: 8-bit on <11-12-14/1112:00>
Just so I am sure, Molly is calling Arachnos, right? She's not physically on his doorstep? Just don't want to pick up the phone only to have her walk in my door (although, you know, not a morning person, so that would be possible).

As for dice results, I prefer to have them all in the OOC thread. Considering that spoilers don't work for this thread (they got disabled a while back and never got reimplemented), it kind of breaks the flow of IC, in my opinion, if we have dice rolls there. I can do it, if everyone else wants to, but keeping them all in the OOC thread would be my preference.
Title: Re: [OOC] A Kriminal Affair
Post by: Volker on <11-12-14/1115:09>
She's calling, yep.

I'm fine with both.
Title: Re: [OOC] A Kriminal Affair
Post by: Landmine on <11-12-14/1129:45>
Speaking of which, Did you want us to roll for starting nuyen here?
Title: Re: [OOC] A Kriminal Affair
Post by: Volker on <11-12-14/1259:18>
Sure, go ahead!

@8-bit: Green is for matrix. I guess, you didn't email the good morning to Molly, did you? ;)
Title: Re: [OOC] A Kriminal Affair
Post by: 8-bit on <11-12-14/1306:19>
Sure, go ahead!

@8-bit: Green is for matrix. I guess, you didn't email the good morning to Molly, did you? ;)

Oh, thought we were using that for commcalls too. I'll edit it to normal speech.
Title: Re: [OOC] A Kriminal Affair
Post by: Shrazkil on <11-12-14/1307:20>
I will be a slow start, wasn't expecting to have game start so soon, I need to figure out how to change colors ( I see the option to as I type this just wanna get my sig set up for easy reverence), and get my finished sheet tonight to the GM's.
Title: Re: [OOC] A Kriminal Affair
Post by: 8-bit on <11-12-14/1313:50>
I will be a slow start, wasn't expecting to have game start so soon, I need to figure out how to change colors ( I see the option to as I type this just wanna get my sig set up for easy reverence), and get my finished sheet tonight to the GM's.

The easiest way is to type [color="color you want"]Text here[/color]. You don't have to use quotation marks in the coding, that was just to make it easier to read.
Title: Re: [OOC] A Kriminal Affair
Post by: Raven Runner on <11-12-14/1327:26>
Welcome everyone!  As Volker is taking the lead on phase one I'll probably be hanging back and keeping of the IC thread...love reading it though!

Re: color...I wonder if it would be easier if every one just stuck with the color coding in their signature?  I'm finding it confusing when folks are typing using the colors for this game but their signature is is for a different game...and I wouldn't want folks to have to keep changing signatures.  For me, seeing what they wrote and having their signature right there to explain the colors is fine by me...and then every one can use what ever they want...but I totally understand if other folks (or you Volker) want to keep every one using the same colors...I will differ to group preference of course :)

Dice: I don't really care where they go...dice here does make the IC thread flow better...might also be weird though seeing what people are saying/doing in character and then having to switch to a different thread to see what they are rolling...again, what ever the group as a whole prefers is fine by me :)

Glad you're all here, and looking forward to an epic game!

Cheers, Raven
Title: Re: [OOC] A Kriminal Affair
Post by: Poindexter on <11-12-14/1357:04>
you can go ahead and edit that IC thread.

due to the attitude I'm getting from Volker, I'm gonna drop outta this one.

I sent him the character sheet, and i get back...

I'm not very happy with the lots of 1s and 6s in your build. This smells strongly like min-maxing. Might you explain in short words how you see that case?

Your lifestyle is low, yes? not squatter?

So i respond...

I gave him E in skills. picked three things for him to be good at, then used karma to buy him 1 in all the rest of the skills I thought he'd need to have, but not be a master of. E skills is a bitch, dude. I don't know what else to say. I'm not a min/maxxer.

Nope, squatter. Abandoned UPS truck is not low. Low has a front door with a landlord and shit.

and i get back...

Huh. Yeah, I believe that E in skill sucks, but then, it was your decision to go for E. So, you do see the point that this looks pretty strange, don't you? Spending the skill points in 6es and Karma in 1s is ... cost-efficient. I mean, if I buy some additional skills, I also buy the cheapest ones. I'm not stupid. But I do this once or twice in a build, and not 10 times. And I also buy 3s and 4s with my skill points. I won't force you into anything, but I'd really appreciate if your char's stats would become more, you know, realistic, natural, whatever.



But why? How are you defending your gear and all in a squatter? Sorry, if I take my role as a GM seriously I can't be okay with that. You have spent a fortune in things that can be stolen, or robbed. If you insist on squatter, I have to insist on throwing a lucky die to determine whether you are left in peace, robbed or geeked and robbed. My shaman has resources E (6000 nuyen, that REALLY sucks) and as a Dwarf he has +20 % lifestyle cost. I still gave him a low lifestyle, although I couldn't even afford a fake SIM!

so i respond...

Quote from: Poindexter
I don't know what to tell ya. I made the character the way it seemed to work out best for me. What would you prefer i spent the karma on?

A fortune in things?! Except for the extra ammo and the bike, he owns nothing he can't carry on his person all at the same time.

and i get back...

Umm, I don't really care on what you spend your character. I just point out that it is, let's say, very, very, very, very unlikely for any person, that there are exactly three things he mastered to a point close to perfection and a lots of things he has hardly heard about, but performs at a certain (poor) level. You have combat spell spellcasting at a level of friggin' 8 (!!) although you don't know more than a single spell? Cum on. Counterspelling also 6 with hardly any experience in magic, but Arcana and Assensing not a clue? How would a guy like Xem learn to use HEAVY WEAPONS? He's hardly able to point a gun at somebody. Summarized: You can leave him the way he is, but I'm a little bit unhappy (note: This is NOT a threat!!) because while I see that you are capable of some really awesome roleplaying (Your background story is amazing) I don't find this sense of a realistic yet awesome player character reflected by your stats. They look, to say it flat, constructed.

So, are you telling me that you run around with 4 TMPs and an AK everytime you got to a store and buy some milk? You sleep wearing your high-end armor jacket and your mask? Come on, dude.

I hope you're not pissed with me.

so i respond...

I knew there were two or three things i wanted him to be really good at, and a bunch of things i just wanted to have passing knowledge of. This was the only way i could think of to work it. I dumped a bunch of my starting karma into it to make it work out and i dont see how thats any cheesier than making up missing money with karma. Whatever you throw your E into, you end up making up the difference with karma. This is how characters get made. I don't see what the fuss is about? Not to mention, if you look at final dice pools, the difference is only 2-3 dice between some of the 6 skills and the 1 skills, due to fluctuating ability scores. Trust me, if i wanted to min/max this guy, i wouldnt have made a lightly armored melee fighter with a crap weapon and a low strength. Do you realize how many hits I need to even come close to damaging someone in a standard armor jacket?

IC wise, he spent a LOT of time, practicing, learning how to kill Sleeg when the time was right. Xems main strength is his dedication, willpower, and strength of purpose. When he sets his mind to mastering a thing, he does so. The guns, the sneaking, the computers, those are just things he needed to know the basic level of to get by, not worth focusing attention on. The heavy weapon skill is simply cause he knows that the guy with the grenade launcher doesn't "look like a mage" and he knows how hit squads think. "Geek the mage" is not just a thing people say OOC, y'know?

and i get back...

*sigh* fine by me

then there's...

A commlink, 4 pistols, rifle, a jacket, and a mask.

No, I don't carry everything (which aint much considering everything but the rifle fits in pockets in the jacket) with me all the time, nor do i sleep strapped to the gills with guns, but i DO have the good sense to hide my things when I leave them at home. If i get robbed, i get robbed, it's part of the world. I've only really got about 3-5k in gear sitting around the house if they get the rifle, and maybe 1-2k if they don't. Keep in mind, the squatter lifestyle IS a step up from street and you DO pay some "rent" on it, which obviously isn't really rent as one doesn't have a landlord at that level, but we assume that money gets used on general maintenance and a basic, if crude level of security. It ain't much, but it's something. . Anyone can get robbed, its just less likely the higher up you go on the ladder. Now all that being said, If a GM wants to rob me cause of a totally legal to purchase lifestyle before the game really gets going, then thats his business.

and his response right HERE is the reason I'm out.


Now, come on, don't get upset. You know it's fishy, don't you? You can't tell me, that if you're GM, and one of your char sleeps in a "van under and old overpass" with nice weapons and gear, that you would be totally ok with that? Seriously? Why should anyone invest in lifestyle if it doesn't matter anyway?

And I fucking don't "want to rob you", goddammit. If you accuse me of stuff like that every again you and I will have a problem, chummer. I'm GMing for more than 15 years, and never have I ever heard from a single soul that I treated anyone ever unfair (okay, save for one time when a player was not content with her karma reward). What Xem does is "legal" but very risky, not to say outright stupid and you goddamn know that. So please stop fucking around on a personal level ("But your Dwarf has no SIN." "You want to rob me although my build is according to the rules") and remain objective in that regard. You can't tell me, that you spent B on resources and can't afford a Low lifestyle.

Ok, buddy.

A- no one is upset. I am not trying to pull anything over on you and the multiple insinuations that I am is offensive.
B- You are the one who brought up having xem get his place robbed, then you freak out when i repeat it? whats your problem?
C- Aint no need for internet threats up in here. Grow up with your "We WILL have a problem, chummer." bullshit, huh?
D- Maybe i been GMing since yesterday and maybe I been GMing since the fuckin purple d and d box came out, but that aint relevant to this discussion.
E- I never said lifestyle didn't matter. Stop putting words in my mouth.
F- I never said Xem couldnt afford a higher lifestyle, but with the way i envisioned the character, that's the lifestyle he had. I'm sorry you have such a problem with it, and with your authority being challenged in any way.
G- Thank you for showing me your true colors before I got too invested in this game.
H- Mentioning that your SINless dwarf would have trouble renting an apartment is not "fucking around on a personal level".
Title: Re: [OOC] A Kriminal Affair
Post by: Raven Runner on <11-12-14/1541:24>
As I said on the other thread..

"Well, clearly things aren't going as well as could be hoped for...

Checking with the other group and seeing if any of them want to come over here makes sense...also, if none of them do, I know there are folks who have expressed interest in joining.

Also, to every one involved in this game, if there are any concerns or conflicts between any one in the future I'd like to know about it.  PMs mean that a lot can go on behind the scenes, and that's fine, but I don't like GMing a game where there are any serious disagreements going on and I (as one the the GMs) have no idea about it.

Lets keep this reasonable and in the open, thanks every one!

Cheers, Raven"
Title: Re: [OOC] A Kriminal Affair
Post by: Poindexter on <11-12-14/1723:52>
As I said on the other thread..

"Well, clearly things aren't going as well as could be hoped for...

Checking with the other group and seeing if any of them want to come over here makes sense...also, if none of them do, I know there are folks who have expressed interest in joining.

Also, to every one involved in this game, if there are any concerns or conflicts between any one in the future I'd like to know about it.  PMs mean that a lot can go on behind the scenes, and that's fine, but I don't like GMing a game where there are any serious disagreements going on and I (as one the the GMs) have no idea about it.

Lets keep this reasonable and in the open, thanks every one!

Cheers, Raven"

It wasn't the disagreement i had a problem with.

It was the multiple accusations of "min/maxxing" and then the threat really put the cherry on top.
Title: Re: [OOC] A Kriminal Affair
Post by: Volker on <11-12-14/2212:15>
Hello, everybody.

@Poindexter:
I'm sorry that you're leaving and I'm also sorry I created hard feelings (as I also expressed e.g. in "I hope you're not pissed with me."). But I'm not sorry about what I wrote because this is still my opinion. If you use the skill points (which are equally expensive no matter which level you take) only for 5es and 6es and Karma (which is quite cheap at lvl 1) only for 1s, this is cost-efficient. If you, however, use ALL you skill points on 5es and 6es and buy 14 (in words: fourteen) skills on lvl 1 with karma, there is reason to ask you on your view about this, because it does smell like min-maxing. I did never say you were min-maxing, I asked your opinion and I said, I was unhappy about the unrealistic build but still fine with you to go for it. And RR and I were very specific about this being focussed on good roleplay rather than good stats.
I also uttered a similar opinion regarding another player's build (although it was by far less extreme) and nobody got emotional.

I am also quite positive that it is nothing a GM should not do to point out that it is really dangerous to live in a broken-down van when you carry stuff worth thousands of nuyen with you - tens of thousands if anyone realizes what your sword really is. This is not "wanting to rob you" anymore than letting the guards shoot at you during the run is "wanting to kill you".

And this is way I gut quite upset about your insinuation. I'm doing my job here, and if your char lives in a deliberately chosen dangerous situation, I have to make you aware of it and roll a lucky die whether you got away with it or not in case you stay in the danger zone. Raven Runner and I spent a whole lot of time and effort in this stuff and we still do. We try to create an exciting environment in which we all can have fun. I estimate things as good as I can, but if I have come to a decision, while I’m ready to discuss it in case I missed something (I make many mistakes and admit it), I also must ask players to accept a GM’s decision at some point.
That said: yes, I’m showing my „true colors“ any time: I try to be as fair as I can, I would never seriously harm any character unharmed, but I can also be strict if need be. The world our runners live in is not a pink feel-fine-zone. I think I always wrote in a respectful way (until, that is, when instead of logical arguments came a personal attack) and I always will.

So, to shortly answer your questions/statements before we can close that file.
Quote from: “Poindexter“
A- no one is upset. I am not trying to pull anything over on you and the multiple insinuations that I am is offensive.
B- You are the one who brought up having xem get his place robbed, then you freak out when i repeat it? whats your problem?
C- Aint no need for internet threats up in here. Grow up with your "We WILL have a problem, chummer." bullshit, huh?
D- Maybe i been GMing since yesterday and maybe I been GMing since the fuckin purple d and d box came out, but that aint relevant to this discussion.
E- I never said lifestyle didn't matter. Stop putting words in my mouth.
F- I never said Xem couldnt afford a higher lifestyle, but with the way i envisioned the character, that's the lifestyle he had. I'm sorry you have such a problem with it, and with your authority being challenged in any way.
G- Thank you for showing me your true colors before I got too invested in this game.
H- Mentioning that your SINless dwarf would have trouble renting an apartment is not "fucking around on a personal level".

A: You never explained me, however, how optimizing your stats in a unrealistic way does not fall under the catergory min-maxing.
B: I said, I will have to roll a lucky die to see whether your place gets robbed or not. This is no more „a GM wanting to rob you because of a legal build“ than some random critter on your way is „a GM wanting to kill you because of whatever“.
C: Until then, I never got personal. But there are limits to my patience and this is when I get offensed as a person. By the way, before the „we will get a problem“ statement there also was an if.
D: I was not posing with my experience as a GM, as you might remember, but pointed out that in more than 15 years everybody felt treated fair by me and that it might not only be entirely my fault if you feel pissed about me not wanting a B resources guy living a truck and feeling safely.
E: No, but you got furious when I explained you how lifestyle does matter in regards of security.
F: I have no problem with it. It’s you who has problem with the consequences of a squatter lifestyle. And please don’t argue about the risk of living almost unprotectedly with stuff worth a fortune for a starved group of gangers.
G: You’re welcome. I think it’s quite important to show who one is any time.
H: It is as it’s not in the least connected to our debate. And, by the way, my Dwarf is not SINless.

Okay, let’s get to happier business now.
Quote from: “Shrazkil“
I will be a slow start, wasn't expecting to have game start so soon, I need to figure out how to change colors ( I see the option to as I type this just wanna get my sig set up for easy reverence), and get my finished sheet tonight to the GM's.
No problem at all. To be honest, there’s still a lot o‘ things we have to sort out, but I thought, since the characters might want to chit-chat a bit before they get to business, we’d have plenty of time to do that even if we start now. And I was eager to play, as (as I think) most of you are ;)

Quote from: “Raven Runner“
Re: color...I wonder if it would be easier if every one just stuck with the color coding in their signature?  I'm finding it confusing when folks are typing using the colors for this game but their signature is is for a different game...and I wouldn't want folks to have to keep changing signatures.  For me, seeing what they wrote and having their signature right there to explain the colors is fine by me...and then every one can use what ever they want...but I totally understand if other folks (or you Volker) want to keep every one using the same colors...I will differ to group preference of course

I’m not sure if this will not get confusing, everybody using different colors. 8-bit and me are posting the color set in use in our signatures so you can look it up anytime. But I am also fine with everybody using different colors, if that’s easier for you.
What do the others think?
(Uh, by the way, since Poindexter’s out of the game anyway, I would prefer the colors that are still in my signature again :) ).

Quote from: “Raven Runner“
Also, to every one involved in this game, if there are any concerns or conflicts between any one in the future I'd like to know about it.  PMs mean that a lot can go on behind the scenes, and that's fine, but I don't like GMing a game where there are any serious disagreements going on and I (as one the the GMs) have no idea about it.
This all developed real fast. I think, you were sleeping all or most of the time. In any case, you were not online in between, as Poindexter and me were online at the same time and PMs were buzzing around like busy bumblebees. But yes, I should have CCed to you every PM and will do so in future. It started as a minor remark and then spun out of control. Sorry for that, chummer.

[EDIT: SnowDragon asked if there was still place. We could ask him if he wants to jump in spontaneously. If you like the idea, go ahead. I would ask, but I don't want to pass over you again.]
Title: Re: [OOC] A Kriminal Affair
Post by: 8-bit on <11-12-14/2228:14>
My current color set is what Volker proposed in the initial setup thread; so just ignore my signature for this game (it's not going to change, since I have many other posts that I would then have to edit to match). Honestly, the colors don't matter to me, as long as we all can understand each other and how things are divided.

I'm enjoying this beginning RP, but I'm not sure if I'm zooming ahead at all. I am fairly active, so just post in OOC if you want me to slow down for a day or two, in case others are busy.
Title: Re: [OOC] A Kriminal Affair
Post by: Poindexter on <11-12-14/2324:56>
A: You never explained me, however, how optimizing your stats in a unrealistic way does not fall under the catergory min-maxing.
B: I said, I will have to roll a lucky die to see whether your place gets robbed or not. This is no more „a GM wanting to rob you because of a legal build“ than some random critter on your way is „a GM wanting to kill you because of whatever“.
C: Until then, I never got personal. But there are limits to my patience and this is when I get offensed as a person. By the way, before the „we will get a problem“ statement there also was an if.
D: I was not posing with my experience as a GM, as you might remember, but pointed out that in more than 15 years everybody felt treated fair by me and that it might not only be entirely my fault if you feel pissed about me not wanting a B resources guy living a truck and feeling safely.
E: No, but you got furious when I explained you how lifestyle does matter in regards of security.
F: I have no problem with it. It’s you who has problem with the consequences of a squatter lifestyle. And please don’t argue about the risk of living almost unprotectedly with stuff worth a fortune for a starved group of gangers.
G: You’re welcome. I think it’s quite important to show who one is any time.
H: It is as it’s not in the least connected to our debate. And, by the way, my Dwarf is not SINless.

A- I explained it three times and quoted it above. You chose to disregard and continue with your insinuations, which by your own words were "extreme".
B- I'm not here to argue symantics. You brought up the possibility of robbery then got heated when i addressed it. grow up.
C- I never got personal at ALL. You keep telling me I'm mad, but you keep admitting you're the one who caught feelings here. Again, grow up.
D- Whatever
E- Furious? really? And just how were you able to ascertain this? Most of us have no way of knowing the emotional state of another over the internet, unless told (as you've told us). I'm chillin, dude. I think you're projecting your emotions on to others. Again, grow up.
F- I have no problems with squatter lifestyle. i was the one who explained to you that its all good and shit happens sometimes. I even mitigated possible losses. You overestimate the value of a few low end guns. Do the math. We're talking about less than 6k here.
G- yeah
H- The point was that you accuse me of taking it to a personal level when I never did any such thing. This bares to the discussion at hand in that it is yet another thing you accuse me of that is untrue.


I know what happened here dude.
From the first time you saw an addiction to Jazz on the sheet and thought i was talking about the music, cause you in your infinite wisdom couldnt be bothered to glance at the "drugs" section of the book, you thought I was trying to "pull something over on you" and no matter what I said to you, your assumption, accusatory tone, and overall dismissive and disrespectful attitude never toned down. In fact, they got worse the more I tried to explain my position.

There's no need to behave the way you've been doing. You need to work on that. Get mad if you want. I don't mind.

Good day sir.
Title: Re: [OOC] A Kriminal Affair
Post by: Volker on <11-12-14/2348:43>
I apologized for not checking the drugs section because I had to leave in less than 2 mins and wanted to give you a fast answer, and asked you, whether you meant music or drugs.
I'm not going further into any of this, because "grow up" is not an argument. Ignoring my questions and statements and repeating "grow up" is not an argument either. And, at any rate, you won't change your mind about leaving the group and I won't change my mind at having been respectful until that specific point (everybody is free to check the tone). We both are not going to change our minds about the content of our discussion. I see no point in further prolonging this discussion, and certainly not at the niveau it has dropped to. If you want to rule out things with me, I'm fine. But let's do this using PMs and not bothering our fellow players.

As for the mentioned other players, anybody can make his own picture of what has happened since the PMs now are public (if they want. If they don't, there's no point stretching the issue anyway). That said, I think the threat should remain what it is: the OOC thread of A Kriminal affair.
Title: Re: [OOC] A Kriminal Affair
Post by: 8-bit on <11-13-14/0013:28>
Personally, although I am going to miss having Pointdexter, Xem sounded fun, I believe it's a personal disagreement between you two. If that's how things worked out between you two, that's how it worked out.

@Pointdexter

I will miss seeing your character in action, but c'est la vie, shit happens. I hope you enjoy the games you are currently in, and I look forward to playing with you in the future.

@Thread in General

I'm fine with Snow Dragon joining in, if he's still interested and that's fine with both of you as GMs.
Title: Re: [OOC] A Kriminal Affair
Post by: Volker on <11-13-14/0145:55>
@8-bit: There's nothing I can react to right now. I hope that's deliberate.
Title: Re: [OOC] A Kriminal Affair
Post by: Landmine on <11-13-14/0159:31>
My current color set is what Volker proposed in the initial setup thread; so just ignore my signature for this game (it's not going to change, since I have many other posts that I would then have to edit to match). Honestly, the colors don't matter to me, as long as we all can understand each other and how things are divided.

I'm enjoying this beginning RP, but I'm not sure if I'm zooming ahead at all. I am fairly active, so just post in OOC if you want me to slow down for a day or two, in case others are busy.

I'm using the same scheme and I linked it in my sig. No problems with it.

When we aren't all together, I don't see any need to slow down. I think everyone is eager to keep things rolling.

I also have no problem with another player so long as the GMs are good with it.
Title: Re: [OOC] A Kriminal Affair
Post by: Volker on <11-13-14/0712:30>
I'd say, right now everybody posts just as they like. As soon as we're in the same location, we have to wait for each other.
I'm fine with another player, and also with doing the run with 4 runners. Let's see if somebody wants to join.
Title: Re: [OOC] A Kriminal Affair
Post by: Shrazkil on <11-13-14/0813:33>
Its all good.

Its a disagreement between 2 people that GM, not the first time i have seen it happen. I could see it either way, so as 8-bit put it, c'est la vie (hope this doesn't encourage us going to france) . It is probably best this way so there isn't tension or hurt feelings festering.
Title: Re: [OOC] A Kriminal Affair
Post by: 8-bit on <11-13-14/1115:48>
@8-bit: There's nothing I can react to right now. I hope that's deliberate.

Yes, quite deliberate. I figured that would be a good spot (especially when posting late at night) to stop some of the action while I compile my thoughts about where I want to go.

I probably want to go to the Seventh Heaven place (maybe a quick search on the Matrix so I know what it is?) to scope out the area and maybe see if I can get any information about our Mr. Johnson. Not that I haven't already accepted the job, but it would be interesting if I could find out who he worked for.

I don't have any means of transportation, besides my own two legs, so is it close enough to walking distance?

Actually, thinking about it, once I know it's location, I'll project myself to there to scout it out astrally before going there in the flesh. Sound reasonable?
Title: Re: [OOC] A Kriminal Affair
Post by: RagallachMC on <11-13-14/1501:46>
Rolling a Matrix search for Terra First! European Operations

Intuition + Computer = 10 dice


Result

3 - 2 - 3 - 1 - 6 - 3 - 5 - 6 - 5 - 4 = 4 successes
Title: Re: [OOC] A Kriminal Affair
Post by: 8-bit on <11-13-14/1515:54>
I am assuming I know where this Seventh Heaven place is when I go astrally projecting. Is that safe to assume?
Title: Re: [OOC] A Kriminal Affair
Post by: Volker on <11-14-14/0623:55>
Quote from: Shrazkil
Its all good.

Its a disagreement between 2 people that GM, not the first time i have seen it happen. I could see it either way, so as 8-bit put it, c'est la vie (hope this doesn't encourage us going to france) . It is probably best this way so there isn't tension or hurt feelings festering.

It was a disagreement between a player and a GM, but apart from that, I totally agree ;)

@8-bit: Okay, great. There's still a traffic jam, though. ^^


In general: 7th Heaven is quite easy to find on the Matrix. Basically type in the 2075 equivalent of seventhheaven.com and you find everything, including its location and what underwear the waitresses are wearing. Well, if you care to look under the animated skirts close enough, that is.
Seventh heaven, for anybody who checks out the Matrix presence, is a disco/night club/bar with 6 different rooms on 3 floors serving different purposes. On the 2 floor you find the more bar-like stuff, where you can enjoy a cup of coffee or Indian tea, smoke a water pipe and have private conversation, including a big and nasty ork who knows how to dress properly.


@8-bit: If you plan to do more research, please specify the means and your scope, and roll a Matrix search test.
Same goes for Mr. Johnson. Where do you start, on what assumptions do you set your scope, and what did you roll on the search roll? If you already know what organization Mr. Johnson is, your char can easily access what information is public without any test.

No, 7th heaven is not in walking distance, but you can go by public transfer any time.
If you want to project yourself, let's roleplay that in the IC section, please.

@Ragallach: Great. I will PM you the results.

@Landmine: Please be so kind as to roll a Matrix search test. Do you want to do research on all of Europe's politics? I can give you an overview, if you like.
Title: Re: [OOC] A Kriminal Affair
Post by: Landmine on <11-14-14/1008:32>
I figured she would just do the equivalent of a google search of recent events in Europe. She's not necessarily trying to find information about her prospective employer.

So for a Matrix search, she's defaulting with her 2 Logic: 1d6 → [2] = (2)

Also, I forgot to throw up rolls for starting nuyen (http://invisiblecastle.com/roller/view/4716887/): 3d6 → [2,6,6] = (14) [14x60] + 2130 = 2970 nuyen.
Title: Re: [OOC] A Kriminal Affair
Post by: 8-bit on <11-14-14/1323:23>
@8-bit: Okay, great. There's still a traffic jam, though. ^^

Yep, I figured as much.

In general: 7th Heaven is quite easy to find on the Matrix. Basically type in the 2075 equivalent of seventhheaven.com and you find everything, including its location and what underwear the waitresses are wearing. Well, if you care to look under the animated skirts close enough, that is.
Seventh heaven, for anybody who checks out the Matrix presence, is a disco/night club/bar with 6 different rooms on 3 floors serving different purposes. On the 2 floor you find the more bar-like stuff, where you can enjoy a cup of coffee or Indian tea, smoke a water pipe and have private conversation, including a big and nasty ork who knows how to dress properly.

So, do I know this, or do I have to make a preliminary Matrix search on my commlink? Either way is fine, just don't want to assume anything IC.

@8-bit: If you plan to do more research, please specify the means and your scope, and roll a Matrix search test.
Same goes for Mr. Johnson. Where do you start, on what assumptions do you set your scope, and what did you roll on the search roll? If you already know what organization Mr. Johnson is, your char can easily access what information is public without any test.

No, 7th heaven is not in walking distance, but you can go by public transfer any time.
If you want to project yourself, let's roleplay that in the IC section, please.

Arachnos is awful with technology, so I think we'll stick with the most basic Matrix knowledge. I will get up roleplaying with projecting soon.

----------------------

Since I will be projecting, I am going to summon a Force 3 Spirit. I am not sure what type it should be, but I am basically asking it to look over my body and notify me if anyone attempts to move it while I'm projecting (Spirit-Summoner Link on page 302 of the Core Rule Book).

In any case, I doubt it's a difficult task, so I will roll everything for now. If, in the future, you want to make some of the opposed rolls, that is fine by me. I'll go with a Combat spirit to watch over me.

Starting Money (10 + [4d6 x 100]) (http://orokos.com/roll/232290): 10+(4d6*100) 1510 [6, 3, 4, 2]

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Summon a Force 3 Fire Spirit (Summoning 6 + Magic 6 + Mentor Spirit 1) (http://orokos.com/roll/232292): 13d6t5 1 [1, 3, 1, 4, 2, 1, 3, 3, 1, 3, 1, 3, 6] - Well that was great ...

Spirit Resist (http://orokos.com/roll/232294): 3d6t5 2 [6, 3, 5] - Well that is incredibly embarrasing, I just got beaten by a measly Force 3 Spirit

Resisting 4S Drain (5 Willpower + 6 Charisma) (http://orokos.com/roll/232295): 11d6t5 4 [2, 6, 3, 4, 1, 5, 1, 6, 2, 6, 1] - No drain at least

-------------------------

Let's try that again.

Summon a Force 3 Fire Spirit (Summoning 6 + Magic 6 + Mentor Spirit 1) (http://orokos.com/roll/232297): 13d6t5 4 [3, 5, 6, 4, 2, 6, 4, 4, 6, 2, 2, 1, 2] - That's a little better, limited to 3 hits due to Spirit Force

Spirit Resist (http://orokos.com/roll/232298): 3d6t5 2 [6, 3, 5] - Good thing I only needed one Service ... I can't believe I'm getting beaten by a measly Force 3 Spirit

Resisting 4S Drain (5 Willpower + 6 Charisma) (http://orokos.com/roll/232299): 11d6t5 5 [6, 5, 2, 3, 1, 4, 5, 5, 4, 6, 4] - There are all my hits, fortunately no drain again

End Result - 1 Service from a Force 3 Fire Spirit. I'll command him to watch over my body and notify me if it gets disturbed.

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If you want, I could make it a Water Spirit (that would be the Detection spirit), but the result is going to be the same; all the dice pools are the same. Is that all right? I wasn't sure which one to roll for, so I just decided on a Fire Spirit.
Title: Re: [OOC] A Kriminal Affair
Post by: St Evil on <11-14-14/1349:05>
Hello all, Raven Runner got ahold of me and I will, be posting relevant info soon.
Title: Re: [OOC] A Kriminal Affair
Post by: Raven Runner on <11-14-14/1527:56>
Hey folks, just wanted to give you an update on player recruitment.

As you can see, St Evil will be joining our game!  So (thought the name makes it sound rather demonic...) welcome St Evil and glad to have you on board!

For any one who's curious I basically went through the old threads and made a waiting list based on when folks asked to join.

Currently, SnowDragon is up next, followed by SgtBoomCloud.

If any one has questions or concerns about this let me know and I'll do my best to clear things up.

Cheers!  Raven
Title: Re: [OOC] A Kriminal Affair
Post by: Volker on <11-14-14/1530:21>
@Landmine

I prepared a 650 words document about European politics in 2075 and sent it to you ;-) Have fun!

@8-bit

This is generally accessible knowledge, thus no matrix search required. If you want to roleplay your incapability with machines, you can cut some knowledge. I trust you can manage this yourself.

As for Mr. Johnson. I guess you don't need me to give you details, do you? The most basic infos are available at any shadowrun wikis online. You can access those. Again, I trust you will be able to decide what kind of info is available to Arachnos.

I'm fine with your spirit and in cases like this also with you rolling the opposed test. And obviously, you aren't cheating *laughing my ass off*

You should have rolled two dice less, though, because you failed the first attempt. But since you have 4 scores anyway, I'm fine.

If I had summoded the spirit, I would have chosen spirit of men, because they're connected to Health, which I think is the most suitable here. But Fire is also perfectly fine.
If it's more than a "Hullo, I'm granting one service, you beginner" I'm going to roleplay the spirits (or Raven Runner, depending on the phase of the run), kay?

@St Evil & Raven Runner

Check :)
Title: Re: [OOC] A Kriminal Affair
Post by: 8-bit on <11-14-14/1537:39>
@8-bit

This is generally accessible knowledge, thus no matrix search required. If you want to roleplay your incapability with machines, you can cut some knowledge. I trust you can manage this yourself.

Yeah, I'm basically going to roleplay that I only know the location and (not from the Matrix search but from Molly) that it's some sort of Bar or restaurant.

As for Mr. Johnson. I guess you don't need me to give you details, do you? The most basic infos are available at any shadowrun wikis online. You can access those. Again, I trust you will be able to decide what kind of info is available to Arachnos.

All right. I'll go with Arachnos has no knowledge, due to technology constantly not working for him. Molly didn't drop any hints, so he'll figure it out as he goes along.

I'm fine with your spirit and in cases like this also with you rolling the opposed test. And obviously, you aren't cheating *laughing my ass off*

You should have rolled two dice less, though, because you failed the first attempt. But since you have 4 scores anyway, I'm fine.

Ah, you're right, my bad. I was trying to compile a big list of stuff so that it wouldn't have to back and forth so much.

If I had summoded the spirit, I would have chosen spirit of men, because they're connected to Health, which I think is the most suitable here. But Fire is also perfectly fine.
If it's more than a "Hullo, I'm granting one service, you beginner" I'm going to roleplay the spirits (or Raven Runner, depending on the phase of the run), kay?

Noted; just wasn't sure. I figured a Combat would be good at guarding something.

Sorry for throwing that spirit dialogue in, I was trying to get all my actions in while not slowing things down too much. Knowing that now, I'll try to break up the longer posts to allow more roleplay. Again, sorry!
Title: Re: [OOC] A Kriminal Affair
Post by: RagallachMC on <11-14-14/1827:31>
I need to roll starting nuyen too.  Here goes:

Result

5 - 6 - 3 (Avg: 4,66666666667) = 14x60 = 840 nuyen
Title: Re: [OOC] A Kriminal Affair
Post by: Volker on <11-15-14/0058:26>
8-bit

Great, sounds fine to me!

To be honest, I'm not sure either. It's just my opinion, because I wouldn't know what "Health" is supposed to be elsewise. As has been pointed out - an Earth elemental is not a street doc. So I thought "protecting your health" is closest to. But yes, it's also kind of combat. Or also Perception, because he's basically watching and informing you. Either way, don't worry about that.

I'm fine with this spirit dialogue. If they're as simple as that, just go ahead. I just wanted to be clear about that spirits, soon as we're on the run, are NPCs. In this case, it would have been a waste of time, basically.
Title: Re: [OOC] A Kriminal Affair
Post by: RagallachMC on <11-15-14/1521:49>
Beetle is going to do a Matrix search for any Terra First! European personnel that are currently in Seattle.

Intuition+Computer+Hot Sim = 12 dice

2 - 4 - 4 - 3 - 4 - 5 - 6 - 1 - 4 - 6 - 6 - 4 (Avg: 4,08333333333) = 4 Successes


Title: Re: [OOC] A Kriminal Affair
Post by: Volker on <11-15-14/2037:47>
Beetle is going to do a Matrix search for any Terra First! European personnel that are currently in Seattle.

Intuition+Computer+Hot Sim = 12 dice

2 - 4 - 4 - 3 - 4 - 5 - 6 - 1 - 4 - 6 - 6 - 4 (Avg: 4,08333333333) = 4 Successes

Got it :) You know, that's the real reason why we send you do a Matrix-free area. :D
Just a jest. I'll send it to you some time in the afternoon, that is, in your night if I find some time.
Title: Re: [OOC] A Kriminal Affair
Post by: RagallachMC on <11-15-14/2151:36>
Beetle is going to do a Matrix search for any Terra First! European personnel that are currently in Seattle.

Intuition+Computer+Hot Sim = 12 dice

2 - 4 - 4 - 3 - 4 - 5 - 6 - 1 - 4 - 6 - 6 - 4 (Avg: 4,08333333333) = 4 Successes

Got it :) You know, that's the real reason why we send you do a Matrix-free area. :D
Just a jest. I'll send it to you some time in the afternoon, that is, in your night if I find some time.

That's why I have to get it in now.
Title: Re: [OOC] A Kriminal Affair
Post by: RagallachMC on <11-16-14/1943:17>
I've got the info you gave me, Volker.  How long did it take to get it?
Title: Re: [OOC] A Kriminal Affair
Post by: Volker on <11-16-14/2104:22>
roughly 30-40 mins

@Landmine: I guess you mean "Mercy", not "Khali"?
Title: Re: [OOC] A Kriminal Affair
Post by: Landmine on <11-16-14/2331:34>
Derp. That's what I get for posting while working on a different character background. I did the same thing with my Pathfinder characters last week.
Title: Re: [OOC] A Kriminal Affair
Post by: Volker on <11-16-14/2337:12>
Derp. That's what I get for posting while working on a different character background. I did the same thing with my Pathfinder characters last week.

:D
Title: Re: [OOC] A Kriminal Affair
Post by: 8-bit on <11-17-14/1314:39>
I'm going to attempt to Assense for any wards or other magical stuff that is present on the outside of the building (other than the Djinn, of course).

Not sure if the Aura Reading Specialty applies here, so just rolling straight up Assensing.

Assensing the Seventh Heaven Building (http://orokos.com/roll/232800): 9d6t5 3 [1, 5, 1, 2, 4, 6, 2, 4, 5]

Baseline for results are on page 313 of the Core Rule Book.

I can't seem to find a test to determine if there is any background count here (I assume with the tsunami of emotions, there probably is), and I probably wouldn't know an exact number ICly anyway.
Title: Re: [OOC] A Kriminal Affair
Post by: RagallachMC on <11-17-14/1757:30>
I have the names you sent me Volker, and their affiliations, but what if I want a physical description or better yet a picture of each of them?  New Matrix search? 
Title: Re: [OOC] A Kriminal Affair
Post by: Volker on <11-17-14/2110:23>
@8-bit

Nope, Aura Reading would not apply, but you find the ward anyway. Since you don't need a special perception test to find the ward, I assume you're assensing it.

The info you get is basically: It's force is lower than your magic attribute.
There's not much else you can find out in assensing a ward.

@Ragallach

Sure, you find pictures as well. Do you want me to describe them, draw you a picture or is it just fine, if you char recognizes them in case they should meet?
Title: Re: [OOC] A Kriminal Affair
Post by: RagallachMC on <11-17-14/2113:51>

@Ragallach

Sure, you find pictures as well. Do you want me to describe them, draw you a picture or is it just fine, if you char recognizes them in case they should meet?

The last option works for me :) 


Beetle is done with his recon on the Johnson and isn't really too interested in recon-ing the meet site, so he is ready to move on to the next scene.
Title: Re: [OOC] A Kriminal Affair
Post by: Volker on <11-17-14/2244:21>
Great.

So, Landmine and Ragallach are ready to meet Johnson.
Title: Re: [OOC] A Kriminal Affair
Post by: Shrazkil on <11-17-14/2342:28>
Hermes is going to be set as well, trusts Dandy Don, so will be all set to go to the meet after making sure he knows where it is. I will have a couple on the way dice rolls i will make before i get there, but that is the day of.

Incidentally , how will we be determining base money/karma for runs? Using the way the book has it or other? So i know how negotiation skill will affect money side of things.
Title: Re: [OOC] A Kriminal Affair
Post by: Volker on <11-18-14/0030:24>
Great!

Yes, basically we will follow the rollows without making us slaves to numbers.
Title: Re: [OOC] A Kriminal Affair
Post by: 8-bit on <11-19-14/2014:00>
Sorry for the slowness of my reply, Comcast has been having some internet issues recently.
Title: Re: [OOC] A Kriminal Affair
Post by: Volker on <11-19-14/2153:52>
Thy sins shalt be forgiven.  ;D
Title: Re: [OOC] A Kriminal Affair
Post by: 8-bit on <11-20-14/1150:56>
Making my way back to my meat body, I'm probably set for any RP'ed recon. Going to go through all the setup with remote payments for the landlord, etc. Perhaps prepare to transport some of my important gear with me to Europe.

Do we need to roleplay that, or should we just zoom forward to the meet?
Title: Re: [OOC] A Kriminal Affair
Post by: Volker on <11-20-14/1217:42>
Let's zoom!
Title: Re: [OOC] A Kriminal Affair
Post by: Imveros on <11-23-14/1220:45>
Quick question. Would any of you guys be willing to double dip and play a matrix specialist for the FAMILY Matters game? souffle_girl has been MIA for about a week now :(

Thanks!
Title: Re: [OOC] A Kriminal Affair
Post by: 8-bit on <11-23-14/1223:13>
Quick question. Would any of you guys be willing to double dip and play a matrix specialist for the FAMILY Matters game? souffle_girl has been MIA for about a week now :(

Thanks!

I would be willing.

Might be a little slower this week (although I can still post) as I'm traveling for Thanksgiving.
Title: Re: [OOC] A Kriminal Affair
Post by: Imveros on <11-23-14/1243:18>
i will be too. I think that's why we have given her so much time to begin with. Everyone is slowing down for turkey day!

would you mind shooting RagallachMC a PM? then you guys can hash something out!

Title: Re: [OOC] A Kriminal Affair
Post by: 8-bit on <11-23-14/1311:39>
i will be too. I think that's why we have given her so much time to begin with. Everyone is slowing down for turkey day!

would you mind shooting RagallachMC a PM? then you guys can hash something out!

PM sent.
Title: Re: [OOC] A Kriminal Affair
Post by: Shrazkil on <11-23-14/1520:05>
Hermes casts f6 increase charisma.
http://orokos.com/roll/233793

Drain
http://orokos.com/roll/233794
Takes one stun damage.

Will be recasting for full effect.

LOL forgot the pre buff routine, lets try this again.

casts improved intuition f5.
http://orokos.com/roll/233795

Drain.
http://orokos.com/roll/233796
zero damage

Takes psyche.

Casts f6 improved charisma again.
Wow epic rolling...
Got 3 hits again, and rolled 14 resist dice and still took 2 hits lol.
http://orokos.com/roll/233798

Hermes now has a headache from his epic failures , so takes an hour nap before he calls the taxi.
http://orokos.com/roll/233800

Casts increase charisma again...
http://orokos.com/roll/233801   finally

drain.
http://orokos.com/roll/233802

Underwhelming, but set, sustaining charisma buff.



Title: Re: [OOC] A Kriminal Affair
Post by: Volker on <11-23-14/2218:03>
Lol. There's nothing more fun to a GM to see your chars half-kill themselves without you sending them so much as a devil rat :D

By the way, if it's easy, please post the bbcode rather than the link. That way I can always see the results immediately.
Like this:
resting for an hour (http://orokos.com/roll/233800): 8d6t5 2

Thanks

So, what's his effective CHA at the end of the drug-and-sleep-and-cast-and-cast procedure?
Title: Re: [OOC] A Kriminal Affair
Post by: 8-bit on <11-24-14/0133:05>
So, what is your ruling on how much alteration Physical Mask does? Can it change retinal prints? In either case, Arachnos is going to cast Physical Mask to, well, mask his features. His paranoia got the better of him.

Casting Physical Mask at Force 4 [Spellcasting 6 + Magic 6 + Mentor Spirit 2 + Illusion Focus 4] (http://orokos.com/roll/233896): 18d6t5 4 [2, 4, 5, 3, 3, 1, 4, 4, 1, 2, 2, 5, 2, 1, 5, 2, 3, 6]

Perfect, just hit the limit. Now, to resist Drain.

Resisting 3S Drain (Charisma 6 + Willpower 5) (http://orokos.com/roll/233898): 11d6t5 2 [1, 4, 2, 6, 1, 3, 1, 4, 5, 4, 3]

Well; 1S drain for me.

Now, for anyone to pierce that disguise, they need to beat a threshold of 4. Living beings resist with Intuition + Logic; technological devices resist with their Object Resistance.
Title: Re: [OOC] A Kriminal Affair
Post by: Volker on <11-24-14/0906:18>
I would say, Physical Mask is able to change your retina, but you're definitely not able to copy a certain retina. But I see now reason why you couldn't just change it a little bit. What do you say, RR?

Got the rest.
Title: Re: [OOC] A Kriminal Affair
Post by: 8-bit on <11-24-14/1245:58>
All right, that's fine by me. Honestly, I just want to change my features, so if they do get my retina, they try and match it to someone who looks nothing like me  :)
Title: Re: [OOC] A Kriminal Affair
Post by: Raven Runner on <11-24-14/1324:51>
I see no reason why Physical Mask wouldn't change retinas.  Especially as it could fool sensors some of which only check your retina. 

I also agree that copying a specific retina seems beyond the scope of this spell, I know that's not what you're going for here so it's not really an issue at the moment.  If you do ever want to use Physical Mask to appear a particular way I would need to go over the rules a bit more, as they are written it seems like the function is simply to avoid recognition as your normal self, I'm open to other interpretations though.

Cheers, Raven
Title: Re: [OOC] A Kriminal Affair
Post by: RagallachMC on <11-24-14/2207:48>
Beetle is gonna try to monkey with the Retinal Scanner.

So first, is it running silent?
Title: Re: [OOC] A Kriminal Affair
Post by: Volker on <11-24-14/2211:39>
It's not.
Title: Re: [OOC] A Kriminal Affair
Post by: RagallachMC on <11-25-14/0003:57>
Beetle is going to do a level 5 Resonance Spike to the retinal scanner.

Level (5) + Software (4) = 9 dice

1 - 2 - 6 - 1 - 5 - 6 - 4 - 6 - 6 (Avg: 4,11111111111) = 5 successes

That's opposed by the device's Willpower + Firewall.

I hope that's enough to brick it :)


Fading Resist

Resonance (7) + Willpower (5) = 12 dice

4 - 4 - 4 - 3 - 6 - 5 - 6 - 3 - 6 - 2 - 6 - 1 (Avg: 4,16666666667) = 5 successes

Resisted all damage.
Title: Re: [OOC] A Kriminal Affair
Post by: Volker on <11-25-14/0200:29>
You throw Resonance + Software, that would be 11 dice. The force is only the limit. Since there is 2 noise, it would reduce to 9, if you have no noise reduction. You are, however, on the local grid of Emerald City, whereas the Retina Scanner is on 7th Heaven's host. If you work cross-grid that would cost you two more dice. Do you change grid or do you wanna re-roll with 7 dice?

I assume that you either perform Change Grid or Transcendent Grid and just take the 9 dice you already rolled.

The host is lvl 4, firewall rating is 6.

Host Opposed test (http://orokos.com/roll/234120): 10d6t5 5

Poof.
Title: Re: [OOC] A Kriminal Affair
Post by: RagallachMC on <11-25-14/1331:34>
Well, that stinks. :)

Title: Re: [OOC] A Kriminal Affair
Post by: 8-bit on <11-25-14/2102:24>
I'm going to look around the room for any other exits that may be around. Not only is Arachnos paranoid, but it makes him feel like he is slightly in control; something he hasn't felt since he accepted this job.

I'm not sure if I get to apply the Specifically Looking bonus (+3) to the check, so I'll leave it out for now.

Perception (6) + Visual Specialization (2) + Intuition (5)

Looking for other exits (http://orokos.com/roll/234289): 13d6t5 3 [3, 6, 4, 3, 6, 2, 4, 1, 2, 3, 5, 3, 1]
Title: Re: [OOC] A Kriminal Affair
Post by: Volker on <11-26-14/0654:41>
Quote from: RagallachMC
Well, that stinks. :)
Sorry for that, bro ^^ I was rather surprised how difficult it is to hack something in a host myself.

I'm going to look around the room for any other exits that may be around. Not only is Arachnos paranoid, but it makes him feel like he is slightly in control; something he hasn't felt since he accepted this job.

I'm not sure if I get to apply the Specifically Looking bonus (+3) to the check, so I'll leave it out for now.

Perception (6) + Visual Specialization (2) + Intuition (5)

Looking for other exits (http://orokos.com/roll/234289): 13d6t5 3 [3, 6, 4, 3, 6, 2, 4, 1, 2, 3, 5, 3, 1]

There is a sidedoor that leads under the stairs. It might or might not lead to a second entrance. Other than that, you can see no other exit here. You remember a fireladder, though, so in the higher floors, there should be a possibility to take this one. Once you unlock the doors, that is.
Title: Re: [OOC] A Kriminal Affair
Post by: SnowDragon on <11-26-14/0931:36>
For the SIN check, Titanium is using the work SIN, Fake 4 under the name Selena Michaels. Broadcast (unless required to be otherwise) is terminated after the checks take place. Also submits for the 'retina' scan.

Pistol is equipped to a concealed holster under dress, but is surrendering the weapon whether they spot it or not.

Carrying commlink, glasses and now an empty concealed holster.

Also: Hai guyz! ^^
Title: Re: [OOC] A Kriminal Affair
Post by: 8-bit on <11-26-14/1248:15>
@SnowDragon

Welcome to the party!

@Volker

I currently only have Contacts on my eyes, a Respirator in my jacket, Trodes in my pocket, and my Illusion focus hanging around my neck. I'm not quite sure how to play this one out, but we'll see what happens with RP. Sound good?
Title: Re: [OOC] A Kriminal Affair
Post by: RagallachMC on <12-03-14/1618:45>
Matrix perception test.  Looking for any wireless devices in the room and for anything running silent.

Intuition (6) + Computer (4) = 10 dice

1 - 3 - 3 - 2 - 1 - 4 - 5 - 4 - 5 - 5 (Avg: 3,3) = 3 successes
Title: Re: [OOC] A Kriminal Affair
Post by: Volker on <12-04-14/0148:26>
I PNed you on that.
Title: Re: [OOC] A Kriminal Affair
Post by: Volker on <12-05-14/0722:06>
By the way, in case this was unclear. FY is an abbreviation, spoken "Eff Why". It's not Fy as "fie".
Title: Re: [OOC] A Kriminal Affair
Post by: 8-bit on <12-05-14/1755:57>
By the way, in case this was unclear. FY is an abbreviation, spoken "Eff Why". It's not Fy as "fie".

That is brilliant. Absolutely brilliant. That's at the top of my list for street names now.
Title: Re: [OOC] A Kriminal Affair
Post by: Volker on <12-05-14/2256:28>
Thanks, glad you like it ;)
Title: Re: [OOC] A Kriminal Affair
Post by: Raven Runner on <12-06-14/0054:32>
So, just introduced my character, Nell.

If anyone has questions about her appearance or anything I'm happy to field those here if that's better then mucking up the IC thread...not sure which would work better.

Also, is there some central place we are keeping character descriptions and such?  That would be a useful reference for me since I'm not totally sure how my character would see each of your characters ;)

Cheers, Raven
Title: Re: [OOC] A Kriminal Affair
Post by: Volker on <12-06-14/0430:28>
The central point is me ;-) I can update the files I sent you ages ago. They should be complete with char descriptions and stuff. Also, most of the players described their chars before they entered the club.
Title: Re: [OOC] A Kriminal Affair
Post by: 8-bit on <12-07-14/1518:08>
For my Assensing, I have a couple of questions. Do you want me to just do one roll, or multiple ones (one for each person)? Also, are there any penalties I should apply?
Title: Re: [OOC] A Kriminal Affair
Post by: Volker on <12-08-14/0138:54>
Since you read each aura separately, I'd say one test for each of us.
Title: Re: [OOC] A Kriminal Affair
Post by: 8-bit on <12-08-14/0246:13>
All right, in order.

Assensing FY (Intuition 5 + Assensing 4 + Aura Reading 2) (http://orokos.com/roll/237054): 11d6t5 7 [6, 3, 3, 5, 3, 6, 6, 6, 5, 6, 2]

Well, um. Excuse my language, but holy shit. Reply to my PM with info please.

Assensing Neil (Intuition 5 + Assensing 4 + Aura Reading 2) (http://orokos.com/roll/237055): 11d6t5 1 [1, 3, 3, 3, 3, 3, 1, 3, 2, 5, 4]

And looks like I used all my hits  ;D

Assensing Mercy (Intuition 5 + Assensing 4 + Aura Reading 2) (http://orokos.com/roll/237056): 11d6t5 4 [1, 6, 5, 4, 2, 3, 2, 6, 5, 2, 3]

Not half bad.

Assensing Titanium (Intuition 5 + Assensing 4 + Aura Reading 2) (http://orokos.com/roll/237057): 11d6t5 3 4, 1, 2, 4, 5, 3, 4, 4, 5, 1, 5]

Could be better, but not terrible.

Assensing Beetle (Intuition 5 + Assensing 4 + Aura Reading 2) (http://orokos.com/roll/237058): 11d6t5 0 [2, 3, 4, 1, 4, 3, 4, 1, 4, 2, 2]

And I know nothing about Beetle.

PM'ed all of you (except RagallachMC) for information.
Title: Re: [OOC] A Kriminal Affair
Post by: RagallachMC on <12-08-14/0930:42>
Bad assensing  roll works for me.  Keeping that TM on the DL :)
Title: Re: [OOC] A Kriminal Affair
Post by: Volker on <12-08-14/0947:42>
Just sent you the PM.
What does TM and DL stand for?
Title: Re: [OOC] A Kriminal Affair
Post by: RagallachMC on <12-09-14/2049:11>
Just sent you the PM.
What does TM and DL stand for?

TechnoMancer

and

Down Low 

Keeping something on the down low means keeping it secret or hidden.
Title: Re: [OOC] A Kriminal Affair
Post by: Volker on <12-09-14/2215:29>
Just sent you the PM.
What does TM and DL stand for?

TechnoMancer

and

Down Low 

Keeping something on the down low means keeping it secret or hidden.

Aaaaaah ... :) great, thanks.
Title: Re: [OOC] A Kriminal Affair
Post by: Raven Runner on <12-20-14/1209:34>
Hey folks!  I've been crazy busy and traveling and such but should be able to post almost every day for the foreseeable future. 

That said, Nell is a bit more in the background here socially, she's paying attention and following the conversation and everything but she doesn't look like she's planning on saying much.  I don't want to post every day just so say that Nell continues to stand there and listen :)  So chances are if I don't post on the IC I'm still following it and Nell is still just standing there.

If for some reason I'm not responding to something when I should every, then one is welcome to PM me mercilessly!

Cheers chummers, Raven
Title: Re: [OOC] A Kriminal Affair
Post by: Volker on <12-29-14/1008:36>
Anybody out there..?
Title: Re: [OOC] A Kriminal Affair
Post by: 8-bit on <12-29-14/1752:02>
Anybody out there..?

I just realized I had a post queued up forever ago, never sent it, and closed it with all the Christmas madness. Oops.
Title: Re: [OOC] A Kriminal Affair
Post by: RagallachMC on <12-29-14/2158:30>
I'm here.  Just waiting for others to chime in.  I don't thinkthe group wants the slacker computer dude running the Johnson meet :)
Title: Re: [OOC] A Kriminal Affair
Post by: 8-bit on <01-02-15/1154:16>
Quote from: Volker
Hairy Johnson flashes a toothy smile, then turns serious again. "I'm surprised that in a team of six shadowrunners no one asked for how much the payment will be. I was assured you are professionals. You are, are you not? Matters are ... delicate in Russia.

Oops. Kind of embarrassing that I forgot about that. I'll get an IC up later tonight, got to run out the door right now.
Title: Re: [OOC] A Kriminal Affair
Post by: Volker on <01-02-15/1336:27>
Quote from: Volker
Hairy Johnson flashes a toothy smile, then turns serious again. "I'm surprised that in a team of six shadowrunners no one asked for how much the payment will be. I was assured you are professionals. You are, are you not? Matters are ... delicate in Russia.

Oops. Kind of embarrassing that I forgot about that. I'll get an IC up later tonight, got to run out the door right now.

:D I guess the December holidays caused an IC/OOC twist. Hope, I got you focused again :P
Title: Re: [OOC] A Kriminal Affair
Post by: 8-bit on <01-03-15/0258:37>
Yeah. I'm going to be going back and forth with questions for a bit, as it feels unnatural to just list them all out and have them all answered. If it's okay with you. I figure the conversation has only been going on 2 minutes or so; if Johnson can't stick around for 10 or 15, he must be in a rush to get somewhere. Which is a bit suspicious, if you ask me.
Title: Re: [OOC] A Kriminal Affair
Post by: Volker on <01-03-15/0427:58>
He's not, he's all fire. He just wanted to get you awake after some slow responses. ;-)
Which translates to: I wanted to get you awake after some slow responses ;-)
Title: Re: [OOC] A Kriminal Affair
Post by: Volker on <01-08-15/2332:12>
Hey, guys!

I'd like to hear your opinion: Do you think there's a point in continuing this run? When we forged the group we agreed that one post every two days would be reasonable, though holidays, rough times and stuff can of course intervene.

But we are very, very far from being there.

Counting from Dec 15th there are in total 6 posts, all 5 of you added together.
There can be no fluent game if a 10 minute conversation takes a span of two months in RL. I hardly remember what happened 5 minutes ago IC.

Maybe I just have to relax. But seeing as it works in Lullabye or Tabula Rasa, I'm not sure it's just me.

What do you think about that?
Title: Re: [OOC] A Kriminal Affair
Post by: SnowDragon on <01-09-15/0159:31>
I've posted recently, but I cannot hold a conversation  with someone not there :\ I'd love to do the game, with or without the players, but I need to know who I can still interact with
Title: Re: [OOC] A Kriminal Affair
Post by: Raven Runner on <01-09-15/0756:53>
I'm back in gear, hey folks!

Have we tried PMing everyone?  Most folks are much more likely to respond when they get an occasional reminder.

How about we PM everyone, and give folks a week to respond (since we have been super slow lately) and after a week we kick them and asses where we're at...thoughts?

Cheers, Raven
Title: Re: [OOC] A Kriminal Affair
Post by: Volker on <01-10-15/0856:10>
I actually do like the idea, but since I've pushed several people several times, I already feel beginning like an ass. I'd say, if at least two players agree (or one of the players pokes some people) I'll definitely do it. I just don't want to annoy people too much. Do you agree, SnowDragon, or RagallachMC, or 8-bit, or somebody? I don't want to force somebody to play, but I'd rather play with two players who acutally play than go on with 6 and talk to myself.
Title: Re: [OOC] A Kriminal Affair
Post by: SnowDragon on <01-10-15/1031:29>
I'm willing to carry on~
Title: Re: [OOC] A Kriminal Affair
Post by: Raven Runner on <01-11-15/1143:22>
Okay...

CHECK IN!!!

If you are a player in this thread and would like to remain in the game please respond to this post...even if you think you're active...or think we know you're active.

A post that just says CHECK! is fine, anything will do.

Step 2: Unless anyone objects I will PM folks this week.  If you especially enjoyed someones participation in this game feel free to PM them as well and let them know they are appreciated and you hope they stay.

Step 3: If folks take over a week to respond to my PM we can consider them inactive and move on, in game, without them.  We will assume that inactive characters chose not to be in on the run and left the room.  Once we know how many folks we have we can assess next moves.

Questions?  Comments?  Concerns?

Cheers Chummers!

Raven
Title: Re: [OOC] A Kriminal Affair
Post by: RagallachMC on <01-11-15/1756:38>
I'm here.
Title: Re: [OOC] A Kriminal Affair
Post by: Volker on <01-12-15/0124:16>
Perfect. Harry Johnson's still in. My Frozen Yogurt personality asked me to tell you he's still around, too.
Title: Re: [OOC] A Kriminal Affair
Post by: 8-bit on <01-12-15/0125:45>
To be honest, with life getting in the way and the fact that everyone appeared to drop off the face of the Earth, I was a little discouraged.

However, since people seem to be checking in; I'm still in.
Title: Re: [OOC] A Kriminal Affair
Post by: SnowDragon on <01-12-15/0301:02>
I'm here
Title: Re: [OOC] A Kriminal Affair
Post by: Volker on <01-17-15/0954:41>
The day after tomorrow I will post IC again. Be prepared.
As it seems, we still have:
We seem to have lost:
Which means we're out of muscle. And we will need muscles. I already asked SgtBoomCloud, whom I estimate highly as a player. Still waiting for the reply but he once said he was sorry that he couldn't join.
Another option would be an NPC mercenary.


By the way:
@8-bit You said in your second-last post that you have a load of questions for Mr. Johnson. You could proceed with that in the meanwhile. Or else,
@everybody: if there are no more questions, please say so or show any sign that you're going to end the conversation.
Title: Re: [OOC] A Kriminal Affair
Post by: RagallachMC on <01-19-15/2111:54>
Esteemed GM and fellow players,

Some strange RL events kept me away from the internets and my games for the past 5-7 days, but I'm good now.  I'll catch up on the thread tomorrow and post IC.
Title: Re: [OOC] A Kriminal Affair
Post by: 8-bit on <01-19-15/2259:24>
I'm getting a post up tonight. Sorry for the huge delay.
Title: Re: [OOC] A Kriminal Affair
Post by: Volker on <01-20-15/0017:33>
Great! I love to see things rolling finally!

I invited SgtBoomCloud to roleplay our jumped-in razorgirl. Hope you are fine with that.
Title: Re: [OOC] A Kriminal Affair
Post by: 8-bit on <01-21-15/1721:45>
I'm going to get an IC post up soon (tonight); it might be slow for a day or two. I've got tests coming up and I've been busy studying.
Title: Re: [OOC] A Kriminal Affair
Post by: SgtBoomCloud on <01-21-15/2031:31>
Hey all!

Just thought I'd pop on here and say hi, and to say thanks for letting me take part in this game.  I hope to not disappoint anyone.  I'll admit that while I've loosely been following this story, I have not paid too much attention to the details, so my runner's lack of awareness will be pretty genuine XD.

At the moment, I am working with Volker on the finer details of my runner, Lyall, before I think about joining in.  Hopefully soon!
Title: Re: [OOC] A Kriminal Affair
Post by: 8-bit on <01-22-15/0319:28>
Been cramming a bunch of knowledge into my head all night and am pretty much unable to think. I'll get the IC up tomorrow.
Title: Re: [OOC] A Kriminal Affair
Post by: Volker on <01-24-15/2230:05>
Okay, boys. No hard feelings but I'm out. We started this two and a half months ago and we're not even past Mr. Johnson. If we don't manage a posting rate of 3-4 times a week for everyone I must ask Raven to continue GMing if you guys still wanna continue. This is just no fun at all.