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Shadowrun General => The Secret History => Topic started by: Lorebane24 on <01-27-16/0900:54>
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Like it says in the title. I saw in Data Trails that he's part of GOD now. Are there any sources that explain why?
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Something to do with Morgan/Megaera, probably. I think Storm Front alludes to as much, but I can't remember for sure.
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Simple enough, really. Dodger couldn't accept that his digital lady love was gone after the fire of the Crash, and so he cut a Faustian deal, working with every mega he could (which means all the AAAs, and some AAs, too) helping them up their matrix security in return for being able to freely dive through their databases. Their entire databases. It was the act of a man desperate to find the woman he loved, very romantic, really. However, there appears to be some evidence that not only has Dodger Emerged as a technomancer, but that Megaera is his Paragon now.
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However, there appears to be some evidence that not only has Dodger Emerged as a technomancer, but that Megaera is his Paragon now.
Which is very cool but at the same time irksome, as 5E hasn't put in any rules for Technomancer Paragons AFAIK. Kind of wish they did though, Paragons and streams made Technomancers a ton more flexible.
But yeah, what Mirikon said. Check out the 4E book Storm Front, it talks a bit about it in there. I also seem to remover that GOD was aiming to string him along as long as they could, to draw out his help with their Matrix design as much as possible.
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But yeah, what Mirikon said. Check out the 4E book Storm Front, it talks a bit about it in there. I also seem to remover that GOD was aiming to string him along as long as they could, to draw out his help with their Matrix design as much as possible.
I like how the seem to think he's completely unaware of what they're trying to pull. Makes me wonder when a datafile will leak out about flaws and backdoors he built in the defenses they had him design.
Like it says in the title. I saw in Data Trails that he's part of GOD now. Are there any sources that explain why?
Like the others said, he doesn't seem to have gone to the other side (and I wouldn't call it white hat either, but that's me), more like struck a deal for access to the systems he needs to check, with IC and defense design as the payment. I've got a feeling those won't be as good as GOD and the corps hope once he finds his Lady Fair and recompiled her base code (or he dies).
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So with FastJack having vanished, do you think it would be a reasonable assumption to say that Dodger is now the world's most skilled hacker?
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What are Paragons?
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@Raiderjoseph To the best of my understanding, they're sort of like mentor spirits for technomancers. I think they might help them submerge or something?
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*munches on popcorn*
;D
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*munches on popcorn*
;D
Did you bring enough for everyone?
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*munches on popcorn*
;D
Did you bring enough for everyone?
Pfft, hell no. I didn't go white-hat. I'm still freelance, pal.
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*munches on popcorn*
;D
Did you bring enough for everyone?
Pfft, hell no. I didn't go white-hat. I'm still freelance, pal.
It is also against the code of the popcorn eaters to share. Get you kicked out the lodge for that...
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Lorebane is mostly correct. They are like mentor spirits for Technomancers. They don't help you submerge, but they do offer bonuses and drawbacks, like mentors do for mages. As with mentors, a TM and his Paragon are going to share philosophical leanings. A mage doesn't become loyal because he finds Dog, Dog finds him because he's loyal. Same idea with TMs and their Paragons.
And really, Critias? Popcorn? *pulls out bucket of fried chicken* If you can't at least get a bucket of KFC into the theater, your skills need work.
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Lorebane is mostly correct. They are like mentor spirits for Technomancers. They don't help you submerge, but they do offer bonuses and drawbacks, like mentors do for mages. As with mentors, a TM and his Paragon are going to share philosophical leanings. A mage doesn't become loyal because he finds Dog, Dog finds him because he's loyal. Same idea with TMs and their Paragons.
And really, Critias? Popcorn? *pulls out bucket of fried chicken* If you can't at least get a bucket of KFC into the theater, your skills need work.
I once snuck a thermos of progresso. Do I win?
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For you, RJ.
(http://thumbs.dreamstime.com/z/honorable-mention-ribbon-2493935.jpg)
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Lorebane is mostly correct. They are like mentor spirits for Technomancers. They don't help you submerge, but they do offer bonuses and drawbacks, like mentors do for mages. As with mentors, a TM and his Paragon are going to share philosophical leanings. A mage doesn't become loyal because he finds Dog, Dog finds him because he's loyal. Same idea with TMs and their Paragons.
And really, Critias? Popcorn? *pulls out bucket of fried chicken* If you can't at least get a bucket of KFC into the theater, your skills need work.
I once snuck a thermos of progresso. Do I win?
Got ya beat. Wolked in with a bag of Chinese food in hand once. When it doubt, act bold as hell!
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Well done, Fox. Remember, acting shifty like you know you're trying to be sneaky is the quickest way to get caught.
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So with FastJack having vanished, do you think it would be a reasonable assumption to say that Dodger is now the world's most skilled hacker?
No. Nor, in fact, would I place Fastjack as being the world's most skilled hacker. In part, it's a matter of how the skills work, not just the theme.
Skillwise, Jack clearly had a 13 in one of his decking skills, but the question is 'which one?' What was he most famous for? IMO, he was most famous for being the toughest SOB you'd ever want to meet in cybercombat, so his Aptitude goes there. Dodger might be in the 10-12 range on one or two of the skills, but though being good at sneaking around (per se), after Morgan came around he was simply never really dedicated to the job - he was dedicated to her. I'd honestly put Dodger at 8-9, because when it started out, he had Morgan/Megaera doing half the work for him, and afterwards he made deals to open the doors and permit him to hunt.
Thematically, it's two-pronged - on one hand, you can't be the best at everything (and hacking has a whole handful of 'everythings' to be best at), and on the other hand, it's an 'any given Sunday' proposition. When you've got the two best facing off, the skill difference is going to be miniscule, and luck - where you are, what the local IC is doing, how much signal noise or delay you happen to be dealing with, etc. etc. - enters into it far more than either of the two of you would like. Fastjack was great, sure, but when he goes up against (it pains me to write this) Michael Sutherland in Wuxing's area, who's going to lose? Fastjack, because Wuxing is Sutherland's home ground. What if the test isn't combat, but information acquisition?
One wouldn't ask 'Who's the best street sam', because of similar reasons: best at what? Fastest, most durable, can go the longest, best shot with an [Insert Weapon Here]?? Fastjack has a claim, but like Kane he definitely has the fame - which, IMO, means that those people who work their asses off to be both fantastic at their job AND quiet at it wind up getting the shaft in 'who's best' popularity contests, but will probably wipe the floor with the well-known guy when it comes down to brass tacks.
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True. When doing a 'the best' kind of statement, it doesn't work over wide categories. You could have someone acknowledged as the best cat burglar, or the best assassin, or the best swordsman, but the best samurai or best adept is too vague.
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Slightly off topic, but are spike babies the same as immortal elfs?
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No, Spike babies were elves and dwarves born before the awakening due to local spikes in the mana level. Immortal elves are/were elves who were alive and active through the fifth age even though the mana level was low. Whether their elvish features were visible or surgically altered might vary.
Immortal elves include Harlequin, Erahn the Scribe, the old leaders of both Tirs and possibly a few down in Africa.
Very, very few immortals have been born after the awakening, Frosty being one of the few.
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What about Aljernon, from the Shadowrun Return series? Has that guy been in any of the tabletop content, or is he entirely a creation of HBS?
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Honestly I have never heard of him before.
Of course my lore is a bit weak
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He's an HBS original, near as I can tell.
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Aljernon... Now that I see his name, this totally feels like a Shannara reference.
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I dunno. I just always feel awkward talking to him in-game because you can't bring him flowers.
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I dunno. I just always feel awkward talking to him in-game because you can't bring him flowers.
+1 to you, g ood sir!
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What about Aljernon, from the Shadowrun Return series? Has that guy been in any of the tabletop content, or is he entirely a creation of HBS?
My assumption is he's a powerful free spirit that makes himself look like an elf and is kind of playing games with all the different protagonists. Though, him being one of the dozen Immortal Elves might make sense since we see him playing with the power players in Dead Man's Switch. I think Threats covered Immortal Elves a bit and said that there were around a dozen and only a few accounted for in lore, so it's possible he's one of the unaccounted IEs.
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He need not be an immortal elf, but a disciple of one. That would get him in the proper circles. Sean Laverty and Ehran the Scribe both had students, even way back, I believe.
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What about Aljernon, from the Shadowrun Return series? Has that guy been in any of the tabletop content, or is he entirely a creation of HBS?
Now that Court of Shadows is out, I'm assuming Aljernon is actually a Fae, possibly even one of the Tuatha Dé Danann. That would explain why he's deemed important enough to hang out with Harlequin and Lofwyr at the end of Dead Man's Switch. That's how I plan to use him in my games anyway :)
He's actually based on (and named after) Aljernon Bolden (https://twitter.com/aljernonbolden), from Harebrained Schemes.
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Lorebane is mostly correct. They are like mentor spirits for Technomancers. They don't help you submerge, but they do offer bonuses and drawbacks, like mentors do for mages. As with mentors, a TM and his Paragon are going to share philosophical leanings. A mage doesn't become loyal because he finds Dog, Dog finds him because he's loyal. Same idea with TMs and their Paragons.
And really, Critias? Popcorn? *pulls out bucket of fried chicken* If you can't at least get a bucket of KFC into the theater, your skills need work.
I once snuck a thermos of progresso. Do I win?
Got ya beat. Wolked in with a bag of Chinese food in hand once. When it doubt, act bold as hell!
Waltzed right in with a gallon of sweet tea, and in my coat (With internal pockets EVERYWHERE, mind you. Gods, I miss that coat) I had two boxes of Raisinettes, three boxes of chocolate covered cookie dough bites a king size Fast Break bar, a gallon ziplock bag of Haribo gummy bears, two bottles of Dr. Pepper, and two bags of beef jerky.
I walked right in loaded up like Elizabeth Swan in Pirates of the Caribbean 3. 'Cept I didn't get caught. ;)
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Waltzed right in with a gallon of sweet tea, and in my coat (With internal pockets EVERYWHERE, mind you. Gods, I miss that coat) I had two boxes of Raisinettes, three boxes of chocolate covered cookie dough bites a king size Fast Break bar, a gallon ziplock bag of Haribo gummy bears, two bottles of Dr. Pepper, and two bags of beef jerky.
I walked right in loaded up like Elizabeth Swan in Pirates of the Caribbean 3. 'Cept I didn't get caught. ;)
Did the Coat by chance have the Nine of Cups, Wheel of Fortune and Chariot imprinted on the inside just under the collar?
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Waltzed right in with a gallon of sweet tea, and in my coat (With internal pockets EVERYWHERE, mind you. Gods, I miss that coat) I had two boxes of Raisinettes, three boxes of chocolate covered cookie dough bites a king size Fast Break bar, a gallon ziplock bag of Haribo gummy bears, two bottles of Dr. Pepper, and two bags of beef jerky.
I walked right in loaded up like Elizabeth Swan in Pirates of the Caribbean 3. 'Cept I didn't get caught. ;)
Did the Coat by chance have the Nine of Cups, Wheel of Fortune and Chariot imprinted on the inside just under the collar?
No, it was from Hot Topic. Don't look at me like that, I had a goth phase. A lot of that stuff also compressed down pretty well, so I was able to fit multiple things in one pocket. The sweet tea wasn't even hidden. I just walked right on through with that. The employees at that particular theater weren't the most perceptive people.