Shadowrun

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Title: What would you play if you can't play Shadowrun?
Post by: x6u on <01-19-12/1033:00>
I'm thinking about sinking my teeth into another tabletop RPG, so here's a thread to fish for some recommendations! For me, one of the things I've always loved about Shadowrun is how tactical it can be. A good GM can challenge his players in so many ways, and there are a whole lot of roads to take to solve a problem or beat a mission beyond killing something to death, unlike many other RPGs out there. And if you do decide to kill someone to death, the system is designed to offer a number of options besides stabbing him with your Sword of Awesome +5, and that makes for some hella fun games with great stories to tell afterwards of all the crazy stuff your group did.

Are there other RPGs that are similar in this respect? Even if they're not, I would love to hear about everyone's favorite games, besides SR of course. :)
Title: Re: What would you play if you can't play Shadowrun?
Post by: TheWanderingJewels on <01-19-12/1109:11>
Well, Legend of the Five Rings 4th edition is a interesting high fantasy setting in that there are very few if any 'magic items' and combat is singularly brutal and vicious to the players. While there is magical healing, it can run a Shugenga (mage) out of spells quickly. Most of my plays have had to learn how to get crafty when playing as Chambara Roleplaying tend to be filled with social, physical, and poltical death traps
Title: Re: What would you play if you can't play Shadowrun?
Post by: ArkangelWinter on <01-19-12/1113:57>
Mechwarrior 3rd Edition, sold now as Classic Battletech RPG, is a straight up sci-fi game that is closer to modern technology than SR. Mutant Chronicles is a more military sci-fi game, complete with evil supernatural menaces. Also try Warjammer 40k's Rogue Trader, or Eclipse Phase, which delves into the consequences of all this advancement into a cybered world but is still a dark, tactical game.
Title: Re: What would you play if you can't play Shadowrun?
Post by: MisterJohnson on <01-19-12/1216:37>
Other than D&D3.5, my other RPG passion is (was) the West End Games version of STAR WARS.  As a massive Star Wars fan, I found that game to be a lot of fun.  I personally only played about three adventures, but in my gaming group, I GM'ed 68 adventures in our long-running campaign which started in high school and finished the last year of college.  I digress.  Star Wars, Expanded 2nd Edition by West End Games, is no longer in print - and thus hard to get books.  Also, I used to write for WEG and the Star Wars RPG - so, there's that link too.

Another thought would be ECLIPSE PHASE.  Written by two of the writers for Shadowrun, it's a game flung far into the future where humanity has evolved past the flesh-body and the mind can uploaded to a computer and downloaded into a new body.  It makes for some very interesting gameplay.

eclipsephase.com (http://eclipsephase.com)

Coincidentally, this game *used to be* printed by Catalyst Game Labs.
Title: Re: What would you play if you can't play Shadowrun?
Post by: CanRay on <01-19-12/1330:36>
Star Wars D6, Deadlands:  Hell On Earth, Airship Pirates, Dead Reign (Palladium system) are what I'd GM.

What I'd like to play is DAMNED NEAR ANYTHING.
Title: Re: What would you play if you can't play Shadowrun?
Post by: JustADude on <01-19-12/1340:39>
7th Sea, or the Dresden Files RPG (aka, a 'FATE' variant).
Title: Re: What would you play if you can't play Shadowrun?
Post by: Mirikon on <01-19-12/1453:53>
D&D 3.5
M&M 2nd
Hero System (4th, 5th, or 6th)
BESM 3rd

Haven't tried GURPS before, but would be willing to give it a go.
Title: Re: What would you play if you can't play Shadowrun?
Post by: Simagal on <01-19-12/1527:02>
Right now I'd play Eclipse Phase, any of the Warhammer 40K games. Legend of the Five Rings and Seventh Sea are great games. I have heard really good things about Pathfinder. Warhammer Fantasy roleplaying looks good, but expensive and unique and is on deck to play when the Shadowrun game ends.
Title: Re: What would you play if you can't play Shadowrun?
Post by: x6u on <01-19-12/2334:16>
I've heard a lot of good things about Eclipse Phase, but I'm concerned that the lack of permanent death makes for a less suspenseful game. For those who've actually played it, is this an issue at all?
Title: Re: What would you play if you can't play Shadowrun?
Post by: CanRay on <01-19-12/2344:15>
I've heard a lot of good things about Eclipse Phase, but I'm concerned that the lack of permanent death makes for a less suspenseful game. For those who've actually played it, is this an issue at all?
Come on, that's been around since AD&D and Car Wars!  :P
Title: Re: What would you play if you can't play Shadowrun?
Post by: rasmusnicolaj on <01-20-12/0112:13>
Earthdawn, Warhammer Fantasy or 40K, Fireborn, Ars Magica...

Rasmus
Title: Re: What would you play if you can't play Shadowrun?
Post by: MisterJohnson on <01-20-12/0238:09>
I've heard a lot of good things about Eclipse Phase, but I'm concerned that the lack of permanent death makes for a less suspenseful game. For those who've actually played it, is this an issue at all?

No.  It actually opens up a lot of issues.  It's quite a neat take on transhumanity conundrums.
Title: Re: What would you play if you can't play Shadowrun?
Post by: All4BigGuns on <01-22-12/0314:25>
I've heard a lot of good things about Eclipse Phase, but I'm concerned that the lack of permanent death makes for a less suspenseful game. For those who've actually played it, is this an issue at all?

Lack of "permanent death" is a MAJOR plus in my book. As a player for obvious reasons, and as a GM because I avoid killing PCs as often as I can (meaning I won't kill a PC off entirely unless they want their character to die).
Title: Re: What would you play if you can't play Shadowrun?
Post by: Kat9 on <01-22-12/1039:51>
I play Shadowrun because its as close as I can get to Cyberpunk. If I had my druthers, I'd be onto some Cyberpunk 2020.
Title: Re: What would you play if you can't play Shadowrun?
Post by: Henker on <01-22-12/1335:04>
I think that I will play vampire in a world of Darkness, and Rogue trader in the w40k RPGs serie
Title: Re: What would you play if you can't play Shadowrun?
Post by: MisterJohnson on <01-22-12/1604:24>
I've heard a lot of good things about Eclipse Phase, but I'm concerned that the lack of permanent death makes for a less suspenseful game. For those who've actually played it, is this an issue at all?

No.  It actually opens up a lot of issues.  It's quite a neat take on transhumanity conundrums.

What I should have written is .. "It opens up a lot of *possibilities*."   I like the mechanics, and the game world is well thought out with many factions and things to work into a campaign.
Title: Re: What would you play if you can't play Shadowrun?
Post by: JustADude on <01-22-12/1620:00>
I've heard a lot of good things about Eclipse Phase, but I'm concerned that the lack of permanent death makes for a less suspenseful game. For those who've actually played it, is this an issue at all?

Lack of "permanent death" is a MAJOR plus in my book. As a player for obvious reasons, and as a GM because I avoid killing PCs as often as I can (meaning I won't kill a PC off entirely unless they want their character to die).

Okay, I've never even heard of Eclipse Phase, but this has me intrigued. Could someone please elucidate on why PCs can't ever die for good?
Title: Re: What would you play if you can't play Shadowrun?
Post by: MisterJohnson on <01-22-12/1639:02>
I've heard a lot of good things about Eclipse Phase, but I'm concerned that the lack of permanent death makes for a less suspenseful game. For those who've actually played it, is this an issue at all?

Lack of "permanent death" is a MAJOR plus in my book. As a player for obvious reasons, and as a GM because I avoid killing PCs as often as I can (meaning I won't kill a PC off entirely unless they want their character to die).

Okay, I've never even heard of Eclipse Phase, but this has me intrigued. Could someone please elucidate on why PCs can't ever die for good?

In a nutshell, you can't "die" because your 'self' the essence what what makes you you... your memories and such can be uploaded to a computer and then transferred to another body.  So, now imagine that you'd like to visit Mars, well then, go to the upload center and then farcast (beam yourself) to Mars.  Once there, your self gets downloaded into a new meat body. If you are in combat and your body gets too damaged, your most recent upload can then be dropped into a new body.  this can cause a lapse of memory if it had been awhile since your last upload.  Also, to be clear - you can die - if you have no copy of your 'self' anywhere.  Otherwise, in essence, people can never truly 'die'.
Title: Re: What would you play if you can't play Shadowrun?
Post by: JustADude on <01-22-12/1641:51>
In a nutshell, you can't "die" because your 'self' the essence what what makes you you... your memories and such can be uploaded to a computer and then transferred to another body.  So, now imagine that you'd like to visit Mars, well then, go to the upload center and then farcast (beam yourself) to Mars.  Once there, your self gets downloaded into a new meat body. If you are in combat and your body gets too damaged, your most recent upload can then be dropped into a new body.  this can cause a lapse of memory if it had been awhile since your last upload.  Also, to be clear - you can die - if you have no copy of your 'self' anywhere.  Otherwise, in essence, people can never truly 'die'.

Ah, gotcha, so less "Total Immortality" and more "Save File".
Title: Re: What would you play if you can't play Shadowrun?
Post by: CanRay on <01-22-12/1642:42>
Like Spider Jerusalem going to LA in Transmetropolitan.  Gotcha.
Title: Re: What would you play if you can't play Shadowrun?
Post by: Black on <01-22-12/2231:40>
Deadlands: Hell on Earth
NWOD: Hunters game, perhaps not the actual Hunters: The Vigil material.

Title: Re: What would you play if you can't play Shadowrun?
Post by: KarmaInferno on <01-22-12/2318:54>
If you are in combat and your body gets too damaged, your most recent upload can then be dropped into a new body.  this can cause a lapse of memory if it had been awhile since your last upload.  Also, to be clear - you can die - if you have no copy of your 'self' anywhere.  Otherwise, in essence, people can never truly 'die'.

At least one of the published adventures opens with your team waking up in a med-lab, missing two weeks of memories.

[spoiler]You quickly find out that apparently two weeks ago your previous iterations went off on a trip. On this trip they may have encountered something that caused them to commit suicide. And that something may be on it's way to where you are now.[/spoiler]

So yeah, lots of existential horror in Eclipse Phase. And plenty of regular body horror too, just think about nanotech in a horror setting.

On the other hand, EP is a game where you can play a sentient octopus, a floating cloud of dust, and robots.


-k
Title: Re: What would you play if you can't play Shadowrun?
Post by: JustADude on <01-23-12/0127:06>
On the other hand, EP is a game where you can play a sentient octopus, a floating cloud of dust, and robots.

How about a floating cloud of octopus-shaped sentient robots?

Hey, don't look at me like that, you know CanRay would've said it eventually anyway.
Title: Re: What would you play if you can't play Shadowrun?
Post by: KarmaInferno on <01-23-12/0137:04>
Actually, yes. Yes you can.

You can even play a star-diving space whale.



-k
Title: Re: What would you play if you can't play Shadowrun?
Post by: All4BigGuns on <01-23-12/0143:35>
I think the EP character I built but never got to play was a Fury. Can't remember for sure though. Been a while since I've looked at it.
Title: Re: What would you play if you can't play Shadowrun?
Post by: The Doomed One on <01-23-12/1121:17>
Another fun thing about Eclipse Phase is that, because it is creative commons, people can do things like  this (http://robboyle.wordpress.com/eclipse-phase-pdfs/). So if you are curious about the contents of the books you can see for yourself, and decide if you like it before buying it.
Title: Re: What would you play if you can't play Shadowrun?
Post by: MisterJohnson on <01-23-12/1218:59>
I thought of another game, which admittedly I have not played myself for years and years, but I liked it a lot ...  TORG.  That was another world-altering RPG where 'the Gods' came down and wreaked havoc with the reality of Earth.  Depending on your geographic location there might have been a new reality to that area - such as pulp fiction, cybermancy or living lands - and others.  It was sort-of a generic types of system (but complex) where you could basically play any genre of game within the same world.  So, your players could be fighting dinosaurs in the western USA then fly to the UK and meet with their elven friends.

Anyways, I liked that game - and going back to the original question... if I did not play SR, that's a game I'd like to try playing again.
Title: Re: What would you play if you can't play Shadowrun?
Post by: nakano on <01-24-12/1730:48>
L5R 4th Edition and Dark Heresy would be my top two choices.  Old World of Darkness would be a runner up to those two.
Title: Re: What would you play if you can't play Shadowrun?
Post by: FraustyTheSnowman on <01-24-12/2210:43>
Hell, I'd love to PLAY Shadowrun. From junior high until now, the only people who would run a game besides me (with one or two one night exceptions) generally handed out 50+ karma per session,  mullions of nuyen, and ran their existing characters as NPCs (to keep us actual PCs on track...).

Outside of SR, I run/play Pathfinder, would love to play Earthdawn, Fading Suns, Starwars (by the way, starwars was not ment to be played with a d20 in my opinion).
Title: Re: What would you play if you can't play Shadowrun?
Post by: Outrider45 on <01-24-12/2254:25>
I know that eventually the Shadowrun game I play in will end at some point so I have been concidering what I'd like to play as well.

1) more Eclipse Phase! I'm loving this game and so is the wife (bonus!). It's just cool and provided our group can find a stable location to keep playing this is the replacement.

2) Cthulhu Tech

3) Mutants and Masterminds

A possible addition would be Airship Pirates but I need to read the book before I decide to go full out with this setting. I also see CanRay dancing at the mention of Airship Pirates...

If I had to run another game....sigh.... I'd run the Delta Green setting for Call of Cthulhu by Pagan Publishing. Its just excellent.
Title: Re: What would you play if you can't play Shadowrun?
Post by: All4BigGuns on <01-24-12/2255:28>
Hell, I'd love to PLAY Shadowrun. From junior high until now, the only people who would run a game besides me (with one or two one night exceptions) generally handed out 50+ karma per session,  mullions of nuyen, and ran their existing characters as NPCs (to keep us actual PCs on track...).

Outside of SR, I run/play Pathfinder, would love to play Earthdawn, Fading Suns, Starwars (by the way, starwars was not ment to be played with a d20 in my opinion).

I pretty much swore not to touch the WEG Star Wars system the moment I had someone who played it tell me that if your character gets a prosthetic limb, you get a Dark Side Point every time you used a Force power (which I think is complete bulldrek).
Title: Re: What would you play if you can't play Shadowrun?
Post by: CanRay on <01-25-12/0029:24>
I pretty much swore not to touch the WEG Star Wars system the moment I had someone who played it tell me that if your character gets a prosthetic limb, you get a Dark Side Point every time you used a Force power (which I think is complete bulldrek).
Yep, it is.

When you try to use a Force Point (Which every character can get.  Jedi just can get a larger number than regular folk), for every major cybernetic system you have (Limb, major organ, etc.), it has a 1-in-6 chance of not working.  Period.  That's it.
Title: Re: What would you play if you can't play Shadowrun?
Post by: All4BigGuns on <01-25-12/0044:12>
I pretty much swore not to touch the WEG Star Wars system the moment I had someone who played it tell me that if your character gets a prosthetic limb, you get a Dark Side Point every time you used a Force power (which I think is complete bulldrek).
Yep, it is.

When you try to use a Force Point (Which every character can get.  Jedi just can get a larger number than regular folk), for every major cybernetic system you have (Limb, major organ, etc.), it has a 1-in-6 chance of not working.  Period.  That's it.

Even that should not be the case, but I can see too much potential for abuse by poor GMs. All they'd have to do is 'arrange' for your character to lose a couple limbs and BAM you're screwed out of that resource.
Title: Re: What would you play if you can't play Shadowrun?
Post by: FraustyTheSnowman on <01-25-12/0046:17>
It's far from a perfect system, and the implant/darkside point thing was an issue that was houseruled in my group, but I still like it...mostlyor the setting books.

Cthulutech, completely spaced that. I don't have the books nor have I ever played it, but I would give someone elses kidney to have the chance.
Title: Re: What would you play if you can't play Shadowrun?
Post by: CanRay on <01-25-12/0046:47>
I pretty much swore not to touch the WEG Star Wars system the moment I had someone who played it tell me that if your character gets a prosthetic limb, you get a Dark Side Point every time you used a Force power (which I think is complete bulldrek).
Yep, it is.

When you try to use a Force Point (Which every character can get.  Jedi just can get a larger number than regular folk), for every major cybernetic system you have (Limb, major organ, etc.), it has a 1-in-6 chance of not working.  Period.  That's it.
Even that should not be the case, but I can see too much potential for abuse by poor GMs. All they'd have to do is 'arrange' for your character to lose a couple limbs and BAM you're screwed out of that resource.
That was the official rules on it, and that was to prevent someone cybering up for the bonuses.
Title: Re: What would you play if you can't play Shadowrun?
Post by: All4BigGuns on <01-25-12/0049:38>
I pretty much swore not to touch the WEG Star Wars system the moment I had someone who played it tell me that if your character gets a prosthetic limb, you get a Dark Side Point every time you used a Force power (which I think is complete bulldrek).
Yep, it is.

When you try to use a Force Point (Which every character can get.  Jedi just can get a larger number than regular folk), for every major cybernetic system you have (Limb, major organ, etc.), it has a 1-in-6 chance of not working.  Period.  That's it.
Even that should not be the case, but I can see too much potential for abuse by poor GMs. All they'd have to do is 'arrange' for your character to lose a couple limbs and BAM you're screwed out of that resource.
That was the official rules on it, and that was to prevent someone cybering up for the bonuses.

In the two d20 systems, there was a penalty, but it wasn't completely crippling like that is. Believe it was like a -2 to Force-based skill checks for each implant.  Enough penalty to exact a price, but not so bad that it could completely hose a character.
Title: Re: What would you play if you can't play Shadowrun?
Post by: CanRay on <01-25-12/0056:00>
We only had one guy in our group who ended up with a cyberleg, and it never was an issue.
Title: Re: What would you play if you can't play Shadowrun?
Post by: JustADude on <01-25-12/0449:17>
That was the official rules on it, and that was to prevent someone cybering up for the bonuses.

Well, heaven forbid that someone should use technology to compete directly against "The Force" and its mystic power. That could never happen.

Oh, wait... we do it all the time here in Shadowrun. ;D
Title: Re: What would you play if you can't play Shadowrun?
Post by: CanRay on <01-25-12/1144:55>
Well, cybernetics wasn't supposed to be a MAJOR part of Star Wars, just as aside due to the number of Glowy Sticks Of Death that get used and thus the loss of a limb is going to happen every now and then.

So there was a rule to allow replacement ones, but at a cost.  And, thus, you don't fight Jedi with a blaster.

You fight them with many blasters.  And laser cannons.  Orbital bombardment is the best suggestion.

That said, our group was old and experienced enough that we DID defeat a Force User with a blaster once.  Thing is, it was our Jedi buddy that was slowly going insane due to a Sith artifact that was embedded in his skin.  We set for stun, and just kept him asleep for the rest of the trip.  "If he moves, shoot him again."  "OK."  "On stun, Crunch, STUN."  "That the blue one on the switch, right?"  "Yes Crunch.  The one you never use."  "OK.  I use it now.  If I can move switch, it seem stuck."  "Yeah, I get that too."
Title: Re: What would you play if you can't play Shadowrun?
Post by: FastJack on <01-25-12/1535:11>
You fight them with many blasters.  And laser cannons.  Orbital bombardment is the best suggestion.
Just remember, that might not work either (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3nJ-B7xTAyo).
Title: Re: What would you play if you can't play Shadowrun?
Post by: CanRay on <01-25-12/1736:36>
You fight them with many blasters.  And laser cannons.  Orbital bombardment is the best suggestion.
Just remember, that might not work either (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3nJ-B7xTAyo).
That captain was as clumsy as he was stupid.  An Imperial-Class Star Destroyer is not designed to fly that close to a planetary surface.  They can't handle atmospheric conditions.

That's why the Empire still has Victory-Class Star Destroyers from the end of the Clone Wars, which finally replaced the Acclamator-Class Assault Ships, although those are still used in the backwater or backwater systems.
Title: Re: What would you play if you can't play Shadowrun?
Post by: KarmaInferno on <01-26-12/0111:52>
My little Bimm character from the 'official' Star Wars d20 campaign technically had the skill levels in telekinesis to pull a Star Destroyer out of orbit if he really wanted to. That's if he wasn't a pacifist, of course.

It's amazing what you can accomplish if you put almost no effort into improving combat skills and instead pour all your points into TK, social abilities and illusion-casting. The character had 10 classes by 11th level and a base attack bonus of 1. He couldn't hit the broad side of a barn with his lightsaber. He once accidentally knocked himself into unconsciousness with his own stun baton. But oh my god were his social and Force skills off the charts.

I optimize differently. :)



-k

Title: Re: What would you play if you can't play Shadowrun?
Post by: MisterJohnson on <01-26-12/0115:39>
Not to turn this thread into a Star Wars RPG thread, but...

I played (and wrote for, play-tested and ran convention campaigns for) West End Games' Star Wars d6 game.  I really enjoyed it.  I was wondering if there is anyone here who played both the WEG and the WotC versions - and their thoughts.

Just curious...
Title: Re: What would you play if you can't play Shadowrun?
Post by: CanRay on <01-26-12/0222:31>
I've played both, preferred D6.  Some of my group preferred D20 Saga.  The D20 plain was just a dog of a game.  But I tend to have issues with Class-Based systems.

Moving this on, Airship Pirates (http://airshippirates.abneypark.com/index.html)!  Yarr!  I gotta order the book that explains just how the universe happened.

Yes, it's an RPG based off the works of a Goth/Steampunk Music Band that puts the PUNK in Steampunk.  Seriously, there's a picture of a 12' tall bird eating a baby in the main rulebook!
Title: Re: What would you play if you can't play Shadowrun?
Post by: MisterJohnson on <01-26-12/0348:55>
I've played both, preferred D6.  Some of my group preferred D20 Saga.  The D20 plain was just a dog of a game.  But I tend to have issues with Class-Based systems.

Moving this on, Airship Pirates (http://airshippirates.abneypark.com/index.html)!  Yarr!  I gotta order the book that explains just how the universe happened.

Yes, it's an RPG based off the works of a Goth/Steampunk Music Band that puts the PUNK in Steampunk.  Seriously, there's a picture of a 12' tall bird eating a baby in the main rulebook!

Have you seen the novel by Captain Robert Brown?     http://amzn.to/x9Tu17
...and I bet there's more news about this world coming soon...  *giddy*
Title: Re: What would you play if you can't play Shadowrun?
Post by: CanRay on <01-26-12/1108:46>
Have you seen the novel by Captain Robert Brown?     http://amzn.to/x9Tu17
...and I bet there's more news about this world coming soon...  *giddy*
Yes, no bookstore in town even knows it exists.  I'll have to *Shudders* order it from the USA.
Title: Re: What would you play if you can't play Shadowrun?
Post by: Red Canti on <02-22-12/1754:58>
Wu Shu Open, DnD 3.5, Dark Heresy and Exalted it seems. It's a bit strange asking me this, since I'm not actually in any Shadowrun games at present. Then again, I'd play anything as long as the group can stay together for an appreciable length of time.

Actually in a few nights, I might be able to get a group to let me GM a Game of Wu Shu for them. Though I foresee some serious authority one problems with one player.
Title: Re: What would you play if you can't play Shadowrun?
Post by: Ugh on <02-23-12/1935:27>
SLA Industries if I could find someone to run it.  I love the concept, but IMO the books are poorly laid out so I can't blame people for not wanting to run it.
Title: Re: What would you play if you can't play Shadowrun?
Post by: Red on <02-23-12/2355:48>
Pathfinder, Night's Edge Cyberpunk, MechWarrior, Vampire: The Masqurade (Requiem, if it's a larp), OGL Steampunk. A lot of the time we're playtesting our own products.
Title: Re: What would you play if you can't play Shadowrun?
Post by: bigdamndm1986 on <04-10-12/1100:19>
i would play the cyberpunk variant edge of darkness. they brought magic, vampires, and such into their setting. or deadlands is a good one to.
Title: Re: What would you play if you can't play Shadowrun?
Post by: farothel on <04-15-12/1238:38>
L5R is already mentioned and I can support that choice.
Another good one I think is Alternity.  Not for sale anymore unfortunately (except on e-bay and such-like), but it's a very customizable system.  The basic settings are stardrive (SF) and dark matter (X-files like contemporary setting), but the system is very versatile so you can do about anything with it.  Also quite deadly (realistic as one pistol shot can easily kill your character) but the idea is to finesse your way to a solution and not battle your way there.

I've also played D&D, Vampire dark ages (old WOD), Mage (new WOD), Deathwatch, Exalted, Star Wars (D6 as I don't like the D20 system), Star Trek and many more.  I think that you can do just about anything, as long as you and your group agree.
Title: Re: What would you play if you can't play Shadowrun?
Post by: rasmusnicolaj on <04-18-12/0122:05>
Earthdawn, Warhammer Fantasy or 40K, Fireborn, Ars Magica...

Rasmus

SLA Industries is also very cool. and I forgot WoD on my initial list above.

When I finish my Earthdawn group we are going to play Tatters of the King (Call) with my wife as the GM.
And after that I have been talked into running an Exalted campaign.

We play Starwars D20 2-4 times each year and we are going to play Shadowrun real soon where I will be a part-time GM.
We also play Rifts 2-3 times each year and with another group we will maybe start playing some Sabbat vampire.

And then there are the one shots from time to time. Last month one of my old friends visited from Germany and we convinced him to tun a Werewolf the Forsaken adventure. Great fun.

Not bad at all  ;D

Rasmus
Title: Re: What would you play if you can't play Shadowrun?
Post by: golan2072 on <05-21-12/0837:59>
I love Traveller, which is a good semi-hard-sci-fi ruleset. Right now it is published by Mongoose Publishing and even has an SRD under the OGL.
Title: Re: What would you play if you can't play Shadowrun?
Post by: DanJ on <05-21-12/2039:24>
Rogue Trader, Eclipse Phase
Title: Re: What would you play if you can't play Shadowrun?
Post by: Morg on <05-26-12/1627:12>
Some people need a little help when deciding, do remember to provide them with a guide for game choices.  ;D
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Title: Re: What would you play if you can't play Shadowrun?
Post by: CanRay on <05-26-12/1651:07>
Deadlands:  Noir...  When it comes out.
Title: Re: What would you play if you can't play Shadowrun?
Post by: Hermes on <05-27-12/1147:50>
I ran the D&D 5th Edition play test session on the Unshaped server last thursday.  I'm going to say that Wizards is finally going in the right direction, although it would have been nice if EGG stayed alive long enough for Wizards to contract him to help with D&D 5th Edition.
Title: Re: What would you play if you can't play Shadowrun?
Post by: NinthSphere on <05-28-12/0431:54>
Well, I'm actually playing D&D4E when I'm not running SR4E, but I would probably play (or more likely gm) Eclipse Phase or Mouse Guard. Hell, I might do that anyway come Fall.
Title: Re: What would you play if you can't play Shadowrun?
Post by: Simagal on <06-06-12/2311:17>
I'm planning to switch to Far West in the winter or alternate.
Title: Re: What would you play if you can't play Shadowrun?
Post by: qazcake on <06-08-12/1558:31>
D20 modern due to my dislike of fantisy settings.
Title: Re: What would you play if you can't play Shadowrun?
Post by: Elfarcher on <06-09-12/0039:18>
Pathfinder is fun. It has a lot of adventure paths (aka modules) and is a bit like DnD3.5. is always coming out with new material. I've ran and played in several games and even convinced my cousin's entire gaming group to play and  now they're hooked! It's high fantasy and chock full of excitement adventure and fun.
Title: Re: What would you play if you can't play Shadowrun?
Post by: Mythik on <07-04-12/2351:18>
Pathfinder, M&M, Dark Heresy, Star Wars
Title: Re: What would you play if you can't play Shadowrun?
Post by: DarkLloyd on <07-05-12/0038:37>
Yeah, I'm going to echo the masses praising WestEnd's Starwars D6. One of my Favorite games.

Next would be DnD 3.5. Either Ebberon (used to be Forgotten Realms, but the GM for Ebberon was just to fun to play with.) or the OGL offshoot X-Crawl!!!!! (http://www.goodman-games.com/xcrawl.html). Thinking back X-crawl is the most fun I've had in any DnD setting.

Battletech is Tied with DnD even if my group has disbursed all over the state and I can't play.

DeadLands after that.

Then : Cthuthlu, Stargate D20, and VOR.

Title: Re: What would you play if you can't play Shadowrun?
Post by: WSN0W on <08-06-12/2000:20>
Eclipse Phase - It really opens up the flood gates to letting players and GM's explore what it means to be human. The books they are based (VEEERRRRRRYYYY loosely in a timeline sense, the Stack sense very closely) is Richard K Morgan's Altered Carbon which is absolutely a must read.

Star Wars - I prefer the SAGA (d20 system) over WEG. While I do prefer non-class systems, SAGA does class systems very well in my opinion and you can make some very unique combos. I have run both systems and while I have a true liking of WEG, I found I had to house rule a lot of stuff. Beyond the 'Jedi and Mooks' problem that comes in WEG at a certain Character point (Karma) level, the wild die induced lethality which makes characters get insta-smeared or on the 6d6 strength (Looking at YOU wookiees) side of things unkillable machines just makes for too many oops.

Mass Effect (Using SAGA) - I've made a home system for the Mass Effect universe using SAGA. It works rather well, though like any true adaptation is a contant work in progress. My players have love it. I'd love to play it, but that's the impossible dream.

DC Adventures (M&MM 3e) - I have found I love this system and for more than just superheroes. The combat is dynamic and smooth. The power level 'sliders' (Where you can be super accurate, but low damage, or high damage, but not that accurate) allows for good flavor while keeping the playing field nice and smooth (within a set powerlevel. A higher power level character is just...more.) The system just...works.

Dresden Files - Awesome setting, awesome RPG books, fun system. One of my favorite thing about the Shadowrun novels is the immersion the reader gets into the world. It's not a boring tomb of lore like we're chewing through someone's graduate thesis, but we're being exposed to snippits of datafiles with commentary from in game characters voicing (potentially misleading) ingame opinions. Dresden Files is written as an In World RPG by Billy (A major character in the series) that is about to go to the final production stages soit has margin notes by Billy, Bob and Harry as they have in character commentary about stuff. It's very well done for making it an interesting read and keeping the reader in the right mindset.
Title: Re: What would you play if you can't play Shadowrun?
Post by: TheFinish on <08-07-12/0959:36>
Dark Heresy or Deathwatch (I run Rogue Trader); All Flesh Must Be Eaten (generally in the far future or the Wild West); Mongoose Traveller; Eclipse Phase; Legend (AKA Runequest 2 but pimped up) and Conspiracy X.

I'm waiting to get cash enough to buy Yggdrasill and see if I can get enough people to play. Been aching for a good low fantasy norse RPG for a while.

I tried to get into D&D (3.5, 4th and Pathfinder) but it never really clicked. I used to play Warhammer 2nd edition a lot, lets hope FFG revives it (because 3rd edition is shite)
Title: Re: What would you play if you can't play Shadowrun?
Post by: WSN0W on <08-07-12/1037:53>
Though why not play Shadowrun AND something else. I had a GM that crafted a run campgin (That suffered death due to scheduling conflicts) where we played Shadowrunners that had a major focus on an In game MMO called the Dragon's Hoarde or something like that. For that aspect of the game, we made 4th Ed D&D characters and we played as our Shadowrun character's in game avatars. It was kinda .hack-eqsue.

It made for some great roleplaying because we were totally able to meta-game in the D&D side of things because it was truly 'a game' to our characters. It also had some interesting roleplaying aspects too. All in all, it was a blast of a concept and I might have to try to reimage it. You could easily switch out 4th ed D&D for...well, anything really. Given the full simsense potential of games in Shadowrun, it could truly be like having a whole seperate life.
Title: Re: What would you play if you can't play Shadowrun?
Post by: TheFinish on <08-07-12/1308:22>
An RPG within your RPG. We have to go deeper!

An interesting concept, to say the least. Sounds like tons of fun to roleplay. "Well, I'd do it like this, but my shadowrun character would do it like this!". Although I was never a fan of metagaming, valid reason or not.
Title: Re: What would you play if you can't play Shadowrun?
Post by: WSN0W on <08-07-12/1318:02>
Actually, the metagaming was half the fun because it was part of the drama of the game with in the game. Some of the PC's were actually 'enjoying the job' and getting into the fantasy adventure IC'ly. Some of us started to 'power level' our characters off work hours and study up on fight mechanics for the game. Some called each other by our Shadowrun handles while 'in the MMO world' while others called us by our D&D avatar names.' It let us really explore the different ways people approach MMO's through the eyes of our Shadowrun character. One of the PCs, a grossly obese hacker in 'real life' (IE, his Shadowrun character) played a hot female character. It was amusing because while we 'knew' that it wasn't a 'sexy elf' and that it was 'Bob', but the game was so real, being full simsense, our avatars in the game kept thinking it was an elf.

Title: Re: What would you play if you can't play Shadowrun?
Post by: Henker on <11-27-19/1753:06>
Mostly D&D and VtM
 Both v5 are great and we have some campaigns runnings on these games
w40k Dark Heresy is also played time to time
Title: Re: What would you play if you can't play Shadowrun?
Post by: topcat on <12-11-19/2311:23>
Outside of my monthly SR5 game, I run D&D5 weekly and play Edge of the Empire monthly.  We randomly bounce between Dungeon Crawl Classics, SR4, and other assorted games monthly.  I'm running Dresden Files (Fate) and running/playing Call of Cthulhu in the near future as part of that.

So if we dropped both SR games, we'd still have plenty to play.
Title: Re: What would you play if you can't play Shadowrun?
Post by: skalchemist on <12-11-19/2324:45>
Though why not play Shadowrun AND something else.
That's my attitude. I'm currently playing in a Shadowrun 6E campaign (really just getting started this weekend) and a D&D 5E mega-dungeon crawl that's been going for 35 sessions now in the Rappan Athuk mega-dungeon.  I'm currently running The One Ring, Masks: a New Generation (tied for the best superhero RPG ever), and starting Ars Magica 5E in January.  In recent memory (e.g. the past two years) I've played or ran Dungeon World, Star Trek Adventures, Cortex Prime, Blades in the Dark, and Twilight 2000 1E.  That's not counting one-shots.  So the answer to what I would play if a I can't play Shadowrun is all kinds of stuff!   ;)

I'm planning to switch to Far West in the winter or alternate.
I feel like that must be a joke?  I'm laughing through the tears, at least...   ;D
Title: Re: What would you play if you can't play Shadowrun?
Post by: Seras on <04-26-20/1409:11>
If I'm not gamemastering Sshadowrun, I mostly gamemaster Call of Cthulu.

I have also taken a liking to Star Trek adventures from Moedipus games
Title: Re: What would you play if you can't play Shadowrun?
Post by: cantrip on <05-03-20/0045:33>
Numenera or The Strange from Monte Cook Games are fun systems.
I would also like to play some FATE style games or Blades in the Dark.
Oh - and I'd love to play a one shot or short campaign of Paranoia.

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Title: Re: What would you play if you can't play Shadowrun?
Post by: Seras on <05-05-20/1521:59>

Oh - and I'd love to play a one shot or short campaign of Paranoia.

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Paranoia is epic  ;D...I have gamemastered and played it...definatly worth checking out
Title: Re: What would you play if you can't play Shadowrun?
Post by: Chalkarts on <05-05-20/1740:41>
I'm very much into X-Crawl.
I've been trying to put an Xcrawl team together to play a regular roll20 game.
Title: Re: What would you play if you can't play Shadowrun?
Post by: shadowlukas on <09-20-20/0917:02>
Hi!
I think that this is a good topic to start a discussion. In my opinion it is important to not forget the good old dartboard. (https://www.hobbylux.de/dartscheibe-test/)
Best wishes,
shadowlukas
Title: Re: What would you play if you can't play Shadowrun?
Post by: Nightshadow70 on <09-28-20/0158:21>
I was thinking about other games a  lot lately, but before that i have to step up, my gaming game. Because I'm always on the to go, i only play on gaming PCs, but I am really looking for a new one and i don't know which one to get. Has one of you had experience with one of the Laptops of this test article. (the article itself is in german but you can Deepl for the translation)
https://www.heimkinoheld.de/gaming-laptop-test/ (https://www.heimkinoheld.de/gaming-laptop-test/)