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Subtracting Dice from a Spell Casting Test to resist drain in SR4A

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zylosan:
There is a mention in SR4A Area Spells pg. 173 "Dice expended to change the radius of effect cannot be used in related tests, such as resisting Drain for that spell". 

So is it still possible to under SR4A RAW to take a dice penalty to your spell casting check to gain additional dice on your drain reistance check? Cause its not mentioned in the rules for spell casting.

A related question is about foci. Which indicate that the bonus dice from from the foci can be withheld to help resist drain. Is this just a special aspect of the foci?

Charlie Green:
No.
You can get exstra dice from centering and centering foci.
 

Lethe:
The radius one is a copy paste mistake.
The focus reference i can't find anywhere.

But yeah, no, its not possible.

Henzington:
only sure way to lower drain is to cast the spell at a lower force

Orvich:
I'm going to check SR4A but I know that in plain SR4, you can use ONLY spellcasting foci like this. During any given casting you can either use the focus for the spellcasting roll or the drain resist roll.

Looks like they changed it in SR4A, but the relevant text in the old core is:


--- Quote ---Spellcasting  foci add their Force to a magician’s Spellcasting and Ritual Spellcasting dice pools. These dice may be used to cast a spell more effectively or withheld to help the magician with Drain.
--- End quote ---

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