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Hello Fellow Jackpointers,
I was wondering if any of you have some info about season 5? I know it will be in Chicago, do we know anything else?
Also, Are there any sourcebooks that I should look at that could give me background information on Chicago?
Thank you!
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Feral Cities has a section on Chicago, and the new Dirty Tricks has a bit on UCAS politics in Illinois which largely revolves around integrating Chicago back into society.
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One of the adventures in Artifacts Unbound is set in the CZ and has some interesting locations not in Feral Cities, like the mile-high Truman Tower and the pit of death nearby formerly known as the Wind Transit Terminal.
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YES! I WAS WAITING FOR CHICAGO FOR SO LONG! ;D
I'll make so much money selling disposable razors and shaving cream, painkillers, granola bars and cans of veinna sausages and spam and bags of rice, and liquor distilling stuff, it won't even be funny. HEEHEEHEE! ;D
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One of the adventures in Artifacts Unbound is set in the CZ and has some interesting locations not in Feral Cities, like the mile-high Truman Tower and the pit of death nearby formerly known as the Wind Transit Terminal.
Very good part of the mission. Blizzard in CZ. Recomendation.
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Well, the adventure in the arc of the book was generally written for summer (Umm Umm summer in a Chicago overcome with death and destruction. Yum!), but that would be pretty nasty too.
The important thing is that you get to use wingsuits and the team leader has a helmet-mounted machine pistol.
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Well, the adventure in the arc of the book was generally written for summer (Umm Umm summer in a Chicago overcome with death and destruction. Yum!), but that would be pretty nasty too.
The important thing is that you get to use wingsuits and the team leader has a helmet-mounted machine pistol.
Ah, I meant that part in Artifacts: Midnight. Hunt for Sonora began there.A:U are still far future for our team...
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Wow. I still can't really get over the fact that we're still tossing 'mile-high' buildings out there in Shadowrun. That's almost twice the height of the current RL tallest building - 829m, the Burj Dubai. I sure as hell wish I could just do a little thumb rubbing over some of those and say, "Look, it was blatant exaggeration on the part of the guy who ICly wrote that part, okay?"
Atlanta has (had?) one, Chicago ... if you presume the Renraku Arcology (*cough* ACHE) was its professed 400 floors and rose 4m per floor for structural reasons, then yeah, it hits 1600m ... but c'mon ...
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Chicago Spire, I think, is the project that was was never even started IRL, on google there was just a hole in the ground when I looked last time. But for instance Seattle Renraku, where Deus slaughtered about 100thousand victims...I cannot imagine the size of the building if it is real....
Also...for Spire :) lets just asume the project was taken care of by wasp hive thus its a kind of magic... :)
actualy...lot of things in shadowrun does not correspond to our IRL views...GeMiTo for instance...but the fact is that those things are "real" by the book. So why not 2 mile high skycrapers in the age of ultra light construction materials line plastocrete...
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SCIRE was only 1 kilometer.
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Actually, i plotted out the Arc on a curent map of seattle and it even went out over the docks and the historical district
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Chicago? Huh, would be nice to hear news from the brave men of Technospace.
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I'm pretty psyched because I've already pitched one idea/plotline to Bull that would make me very happy.
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I'm pretty psyched because I've already pitched one idea/plotline to Bull that would make me very happy.
I'd do the same, but I'm due, like, five beatings already.
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thanks,I need to get my suggestions in
chicago, she was so pretty back then.....before ARES came in
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hehehe
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Personaly, I hope ARES will be a big player in Chicago. I miss the good old USA Megacorp ;)
But I must confess that I know nothing about Chicago in 2070, I have no clue what is the history of the place. What I understand so far is that an Ares lab exploded... and now bug spirits are everywhere... is that the gist of it?
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No.
Basically, Ares was made aware of a major potential threat from insect spirits (adventure: Queen Euphoria), and kept track of it for the next couple years (sourcebook/adventure: Universal Brotherhood/Missing Blood). Eventually they had enough evidence that the Universal Brotherhood organization was a front for organized insect spirits to spread their hives, and took steps (adventure: Double Exposure) to shut it down. During one such 'hit', Ares and Knight Errant hit a hive that was considerably bigger than expected, which turned a huge part of the core area of Chicago into a chaotic, bug-spirit-infested feral city; elements of KE still within the place soon discovered a massive hive about to release thousands more bug spirits and, having a briefcase-nuke Ares had in the zone, sent it down into the hive and detonated it (sourcebook: Bug City, novel: Burning Bright).
Over the years following, Ares has done some cleanup, including hitting every bug spirit they saw with FAB-III, and eventually declared Chicago 'clean' - even if it really wasn't (sourcebook: Target: UCAS). While it is relatively better than its Bug City days, Chicago has still been a cesspit (sourcebook: Feral Cities). Ares, in its quest to kill bugs better, started going 'hmmm, what if we could ...' and has been doing experiments on trying to make insect spirits 'useful and profitable' (various sourcebooks, including Threats 2); the bit with Roger Soaring-Owl is all about precisely that.
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Thanks for the complete answer (with references) The Wyrm, I really appreciate it. It is hard for us "Newbs" to get all of this information, as you clearly state, the information is in multiple sourcebooks.
I would +1 you if I still could... Instead, have this internet cookie :)
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With the lab exploding, are you referring to the he adventure, boardroom backs tabs ii ?
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No I am not referring to any published adventure, when I was talking about the Lab explosion. I beleive that was simply my imagination filling the holes in the Chicago situation.
I have decided to grab Feral cities so I can get the information I need.
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You should find Bug City. It may be older, but it's a much better book.
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Will do
Thank you!
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Neo-Anarchists Guide to North America, Bug City, Target: UCAS, and Feral Cities all will have information on Chicago.
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As does Target: Awakened Lands and Threats.
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I think it's a bit of a pity that the core city will be a location that's already gotten a 50+ pages description in one book and several more in other books and adventures. Would have preferred to read about a new and exciting place.
May just be that I'm not a big fan of the bugs and don't really look forward to having mages constantly being concerned about FAB clouds and background counts... I enjoy dealing with corporate security and law enforcement much more. The gangs and communities will probably be fun though.
Also, no real character conversion options makes me sad, especially so soon after getting so many cool character (and even dragon and IE) stats from the Street Legends books.
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I still vote it should take place in the CAS, but I am incredibly biased...
Or DeeCee.
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I would like DeeCee as well. All in due time. It took 21 years to get a decent update on the sprawl, after all.
I think it's a bit of a pity that the core city will be a location that's already gotten a 50+ pages description in one book and several more in other books and adventures. Would have preferred to read about a new and exciting place.
Yeah, but as I recall it took a while into Season 3 for the Rotten Apple ebook to be released. But given the various elements and the purpose of Season 5, I don't think it's easy to say that we know everything about what Chicago will look like.
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Chicago has changed quite a bit since it's original write up(s), and it continues to evolve. Seeing where the city goes next is one of the focuses of Season 5.
Honestly, playing in a "defined" city is to our advantage. It's really tough to try and flesh out a new location (Or even one that's only had a minor amount of wordcount to it) within the Missions framework. We were able to expand the Underground a little bit in Missions Season 4, but really only because most everyone already knew what the Ork Underground was going into it, and we didn't have to spend time describing Seattle.
Season 3, on the other hand, had a lot of stuff that was never really explored, and a lot of stuff that was confusing for players because there wasn't any dedicated pagecount. Even the Rotten Apple sourcebook was awfully thin and light on details, and it only covered Manhattan Island and didn;t touch any of the Burroughs.
Bull
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Maybe sometimes soon we would get also Berlin, since it is THE Second city in SR:Returns, it would be nice to test/expand the experiende from the city...
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That would be really cool too. Berlin or Paris would be neat.
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Maybe sometimes soon we would get also Berlin, since it is THE Second city in SR:Returns, it would be nice to test/expand the experiende from the city...
I'm... Iffy... about tackling Berlin. There's a lot of material about the city, but the majority of it is in German, and the German setting overall is very detailed. But it's also not something I'm familiar with at all as I don't read German. So I wouldn't feel comfortable doing a Missions season set there, because I don't feel I could do it properly. And there's a large enough German playerbase that if I screwed it up, I'd hear about it. A lot. :)
That said, you know what would be kickass? If Pegasus did some German Missions based there. I'd love to see that. (And I'd love to see them translated to English as well :))
Bull
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Probably end up passing on these, personally. Mainly because I don't have any interest in playing in Chicago either as a player or a GM either one. I'd have preferred, personally, if a city that hasn't gotten any spotlight been used, like perhaps some city or another down in the CAS. The CAS needs more love.
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I'd like to think that given the sheer amount of pages written about Berlin that a translation/update of the Pegasus material would be likely, especially in light of the video game crossover appeal. But, Hell, Hong Kong was IIRC supposed to be the second major setting of SR4 (as least as far as runners go) and was detailed in what is probably the best city writeup ever (even moreso than Bug City). And yet ... Nada.
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CAS! CAS! CAS!!!!!
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Probably end up passing on these, personally. Mainly because I don't have any interest in playing in Chicago either as a player or a GM either one. I'd have preferred, personally, if a city that hasn't gotten any spotlight been used, like perhaps some city or another down in the CAS. The CAS needs more love.
See my post 4 posts above yours.
The Missions line is about adventures and stories, not fleshing out new locations. We're writing a living campaign designed to be playable in 4-hour chunks. THere's not the time, the energy, nor the budget to be detailing a new city inside the framework of what we do for Missions.
Bull
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thats understandable. I'm looking forward to see what ways they have updated Chicago so that it wont be so hellish to Awakened runners.
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Who says it wont be, I know my Mage player needs a nerf anyways.
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thats understandable. I'm looking forward to see what ways they have updated Chicago so that it wont be so hellish to Awakened runners.
Heh. hehehehehe..... ;)
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thats understandable. I'm looking forward to see what ways they have updated Chicago so that it wont be so hellish to Awakened runners.
Heh. hehehehehe..... ;)
Not good. Now you made him laugh. Rare And Creepy as Amish taxi driver.
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Even worse as a scooter ninja.
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Not quite as bad as Ninja Pizza, though. "If you catch us delivering your pizza, it's free."
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CAS!!!! CAS!!! CAS!!!!
(Spefically Austin!)
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I would love a focus on Houston, Dallas, or Austin. There are enough Texans on this board alone to run a PbP. That said, I don't know what market sells the most product so mostly this is just me wanting this to happen.
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I would love a focus on Houston, Dallas, or Austin. There are enough Texans on this board alone to run a PbP. That said, I don't know what market sells the most product so mostly this is just me wanting this to happen.
I think it'd be a good one to have a less known city down here used (the one I'm in ::) :P)
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thats understandable. I'm looking forward to see what ways they have updated Chicago so that it wont be so hellish to Awakened runners.
Heh. hehehehehe..... ;)
Crap. Perhaps I should rethink my Season 5 mystic adept concept.... :-\
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Now that we have the SR5 PDF release date, any chance we could get the SRM5 release date?
*Pokes Bull*
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thats understandable. I'm looking forward to see what ways they have updated Chicago so that it wont be so hellish to Awakened runners.
Heh. hehehehehe..... ;)
Crap. Perhaps I should rethink my Season 5 mystic adept concept.... :-\
Most people with godlike mystic powers use them to wreak havoc, get rich, or change the world.
A resident of the Chicago CZ area for over 30 years, Hooper the Hobo Mage uses them to go grocery shopping.
Getting a pint of milk in the Zone is downright dangerous!
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Getting a pint of milk in the Zone is downright dangerous!
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Getting a Pint of Milk in most places of Shadowrun is downright difficult! Cows that goblinize are monsters!!!
Even getting "I Can't Believe It's Not Milk" is difficult, as even going to the store will usually result in Ninjas. (Typically cheap, knock-off ninjas from Korea or Vietnam, but still...)
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Now that we have the SR5 PDF release date, any chance we could get the SRM5 release date?
*Pokes Bull*
Wish I had more concrete info. Once again, getting stuff into layout is proving problematic. There's just so much "stuff" going on for Shadowrun 5 and the Year of Shadowrun, and we have limited personnel to work on it. And at the end of the day, if the choice is to get work done on SR5, the Starter Box, Stuff for Gen Con, and the SR Card Game, or working on Missions... Well, the PDF-only, somewhat low-selling product is going to be the one to get shunted off to the side :(
On the up side, Sprawl Wilds is SR5 statted, so worse comes to worse pick that up and use it to ease your players in, I suppose.
But the first Missions is pretty much just waiting on final art and a few text tweaks, then goes into layout. The first Prime Mission is likewise in a similar boat. And the second Missions should be shortly behind them.
Bull
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Been wondering, the Prime Missions, are they 5th edition?
Becuase I'm fairly certain many current PM-eligible characters won't be able to be recreated reasonably til at least a few more of the expansion books are released.
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They will be 5th, yes. However, they're also only going to be 4 times a year. (Prime characters can also be played in any Special Missions we release as well, though the rewards for those will be on par with a regular Missions adventure). And since I know you primarily play at cons, Karma, we won't be running the first one at Gen Con this year as we weren't 100% if it would be ready back when we had to submit events.
So what does all that mean? Wait a bit to do his Promotion :) It's cool. By the time the books you need are out, hopefully we'll have a handful of Missions for you to actually play. :)
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Now that we have the SR5 PDF release date, any chance we could get the SRM5 release date?
*Pokes Bull*
Wish I had more concrete info. Once again, getting stuff into layout is proving problematic. There's just so much "stuff" going on for Shadowrun 5 and the Year of Shadowrun, and we have limited personnel to work on it. And at the end of the day, if the choice is to get work done on SR5, the Starter Box, Stuff for Gen Con, and the SR Card Game, or working on Missions... Well, the PDF-only, somewhat low-selling product is going to be the one to get shunted off to the side :(
On the up side, Sprawl Wilds is SR5 statted, so worse comes to worse pick that up and use it to ease your players in, I suppose.
But the first Missions is pretty much just waiting on final art and a few text tweaks, then goes into layout. The first Prime Mission is likewise in a similar boat. And the second Missions should be shortly behind them.
Bull
Thanks for the information. When you say Sprawl Wilds is stated for SR5, do you mean that it is available at the moment? If so that would be great since we have a game coming up this friday...
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I'm just glad the PDFs for 5th ed are coming out this Thursday (the day the 2nd run of my 5th ed home game will be). Couldn't have picked a better day lol as last meeting was character creation.
Only having 1 origins pre release book made that interesting but we had a lot of fun lol.
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Sprawl Wilds and Mission 1 of Season 5 could both be out on the same day as SR5 PDF, assuming nothing gets delayed, and apparently Bull has more faith on Sprawl Wilds being out that day, not strange since that one's going to actually become a book so has more priority than a pdf-only thing.
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Well, the Sprawl Wilds adventures are all older Missions adventures from the 2010 CMP series that got updated and dual-statted for SR4 and SR5. It's been being worked on for a while now, and the bulk of the writing was done 3 years ago. :) The PDF is done, and at least some hardcopies were available for sale at Origins.
However, I posted this to Facebook the other day, but forgot to update here. Unfortunatly SRM 5A-01: Chasin' the Wind will not be out at launch. It's mostly done, but we're waiting on art and, more importantly, layout. Unfortunately our layout and art personnel have a ton of SR5 products they're working on, plus many of them are involved in the card game and even Shadowrun Returns from Harebrained. Plus Gen Con. So our resources are being stretched very thin, and Missions tends to be low man on the totem pole, since it's something of a niche product.
I'll keep you guys updated, and hopefully it won;t be more than a week or two.
Bull
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I'm glad I follow(ed) your advice and am going Ashes for my first event. ^_^ No need to worry about when SRM 5A-01 gets out.
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Since Gencon (5 weeks away) is slated for sessions of SRM5-01 through 06 and CRM05-01 through 08, I have a couple questions on timing.
1) We know sprawl wilds is set to come out this week on PDF.
2) How many SRM's are expected to be playable BEFORE GenCon (and by how far?)
3) Are we on track for all of these SRM and CRM missions to be ready for play at GenCon?
Our group is planning 4 weeks of Sprawl Wilds (starting Saturday!) leading up to GenCon, with possibly adding in an SRM if any SRM's will be available.
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CMP, not CRM. :)
Chance are the only SRM that will be available before Gen Con will be 5A-01: Chasin' the Wind.
And just to clarify if needed, The Sprawl Wilds adventures are not the same as the Dragon's Song of Dangerous Games adventures.
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CMP, not CRM. :)
Chance are the only SRM that will be available before Gen Con will be 5A-01: Chasin' the Wind.
And just to clarify if needed, The Sprawl Wilds adventures are not the same as the Dragon's Song of Dangerous Games adventures.
Thanks. That gives 5 weeks worth (1 per week) leading up to GenCon. Sounds good to me.
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Assuming the season 5 FAQ gets approved, is code of honor on the banned list for qualities? Trying to get a character together for a mission for this weekend (assuming sprawl wilds is out with enough time for the GM to reviews it and feel comfortable with the first mission.)
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No Positive Qualities are banned at this time.
Negative Qualities banned include:
Bad Rep
Code of Honor
Dependent(s)
Loss of Confidence
Social Stress
You can, of course, play any and all of those as you like if they fit your character concept, you just don't get points for them. Some are just a bit too nebulous to use as written, and some just rely on the GM to write in situations to use them too much and that could take away from crucial game time in situations such as a convention where you only have a certain amount of time to wrap the game.
Bull
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Thanks for getting back on this (and posting the temp FAQ in another thread) to let me get to character building.
My Corp SIN went up by 20 points in this edition, so I don't get the points from my other negative qualities anyway. I just get them all for free.