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[SR6] House Rules
Finstersang:
Little Preface: Iīm sometimes worried when posting houserules or homebrew stuff that this may lead to "blocking" a freelancer with a similar idea from using that in a supplement, especially when itīs a simple "no-brainer" solution that a lot of other people come up with as well. Cantīt really talk for the rest, but please, feel free to "steal" everything I post here ;)
A lot of the stuff Xenon posted is quite neat, especially the human buffs. Thereīs two things that Iīd do slightly differently:
Imaging scope: When you are using an imaging scope at Medium, Far and Extreme range, your target cannot gain Edge by having a higher Defense Rating., you recieve the bonus from the Image Magnification (+2 AR) and one Bonus die thatīs compatible with additional Take aim Actions.
Improved Ability: At this point (I mean, isnīt Cracking also a Combat Skill as well?), Iīd rather renounce the distinction of combat and noncombat skills and go with 0.75 PP per rank for each skill. With skills being the equivalent of previous skill groups, 0.5 is too cheap for the boost, but 1.0 would be to strong since Attributes still have a bigger scope. 0.75 is the Sweet Spot here. Also, this Power can not be taken for Conjuring, Sorcery and Enchanting (If anything, this should need to be unlocked by something like an Adeptīs path in a future supplement)
OK, now for some Character Creation/Advancement stuff:
Adepts: Adepts get have Power Points equal to their Magic Attribute. They get one when they raise it (even when doing so with SAP during Character Creation), and they lose them when lowering it due to Essence loss. (This oneīs RAW now. Good.) Mystic Adepts donīt get their Power Point right away, but get the option to "unlock" it for 5 Karma, and they canīt get additional Power Points through Initiaton. The amount of additional Power Points that Adepts and Mystic Adeps can get through Foci and Initiation is limited by their Magic rating.
Spells: The number of spells that Magicians (and Mystic Adepts, Aspected Magicians etc...) get for free is still based on their pick in the Magic/Resonance Column. However, they can learn additional Spells for Karma during Character Creation if they also buy the Spell Formular for Nuyen.
Impaired Attribute:This Quality has no ranks. If you take it for an Attribute, you cut the maximum Attribute value in half (round down)
Specialisations: There is no limit on how many Specialisations you can take for an skill. However, the cost for additional Specialisations to increases by 5 for every Specialisation that a skill already has. At Character creation, you can use the Skill Points from the Priority table to buy a maximum of 1 Specialisation per Skill, the rest has to be bought using Karma. This true for the Exotic Weapons Skill as well.
Burning out: If you fully burn out (i.e. permanently reduce you Magic or Resonance to Zero), you lose your magical or resonance-based powers and canīt simply buy them back to 1 for 5 Karma (like Adepts and P.P., this really shouldnīt be "just a houserule" as well...). Completely burning out is usually permanent - itīs up to your GM if you can find a way to get your powers back and how much you have to sacrifice to do so. There is no proven way to achieve this, only rumors of a few rare individuals who managed to do so. You might even find out that all your efforts are for naught, in the end...
My most important houserules: Un-borking the Edge limitations:
Edge-Limits: Whenever a Character earns Edge on a test (including defending against attacks), only the Edge that is safed for later uses counts against the Limit of 2 Edge gained per round. Consume it right away, and you donīt risk losing it. The same is true for the limit of 7 (8 for humans with Xenonīs houserule) Edge that can be accumulated by a single character.
Edge and Grunts: The rules above counts for grunt groups as well. However, there is no restriction on how often a group of grunts can spend Edge per round. In this regard, they count as individual characters that are just using the same pool of Edge. Grunts will usually spend every newly earned Edge right away, f.i. for rerolled dices.
Cover and Edge: Shooting from Cover doesnīt prevent the Shooter from gaining or using Edge if the shooter gives up the Cover Status when performing the Attack. The shooter can then use a second Minor Action to re-enter Cover. (Note: One could argue that this is already kinda possible RAW by using the Move or Stand Up Action to exit cover...)
Armor/Defense Ratings/etc...
Edge-Boosts using Armor: Thereīs 3 additional Edge-Boosts that profit from high Armor. All of these are used on the Soak test:
* 1 Edge to replace Body with Armor for the Soak roll (pre)
* 2 Edge to roll Armor and convert Net Hits of Physical Damage to Stun Damage. Only possible if the Character has a Stun monitor in the first place (post)
* 3 Edge to roll with your full DR on the Soak roll instead of Body(pre)
Addition: Flechettes and Armor: Flechette Damage (i.e. the damage of Shotgun Flechettes, but also Needleguns and Fragmentation Grenades, often marked by a legacy (fl) tag in the rulebook) is less effective against highly armored targets. If the DR exceeds the AR of the Attack, add the difference as bonus dice to the Soak Test.
Attack and Defense ratings: To determine if the Attacker succeeds on a tie, compare the the AR and DR as well. If the DR is higher, the Attack misses; if the AR is higher, the Attack succeeds (dealing only the base damage if itīs an attack that deals damage). If these are tied as well, toss a coin. If the AR exceeds the DR by 8, the Defender canīt gain or use any Edge on the defense tests. The same is true in reverse if the DR exceeds the AR by 8. (So basically, a few more nuances to the AR-DR comparison. Note that these can apply to Hacking tests as well!).
Hardened Armor: Hardened Armor offers Bonus Dice to the Soak Test, not Auto Hits. It still adds its full Rating to the DR.
Fragmentation Grenades: While these have high damage potential on higher ranges, Armor and Cover offers better protection against them as well. You may choose to soak the Damage of Fragmentation grenades with the DR instead of just Body. See above.
Lastly (at least for today): Un-borking Melee and Strength
Strength and Melee Weapons:
* If the Damage Code of a Melee Weapon is higher than the Strength of the user, the AR of the Weapon is reduced by the difference.
* If the Strength of the user is higher than the Damage Code, half of the difference (round up) is added to the Damage Code. (Seriously, do the math. It works surprisingly well, even in extreme cases ;)) This is true for all melee weapons with fixed damage codes, with a few exceptions: Shock Gloves, Shock Batons and other potential contact weapons, as well as Monowhips.
Updated Version:
* Add Strength to the AR of all Melee Weapons, or Reaction in the Case of Whips and similar Weapons (current RAW)
* The base Damage for unarmed Melee Attacks is 1 (1 less then the current RAW.)
* When performing a Melee Attack of any kind, you may reduce the AR by 3 to increase the Base damage by 1. You can do this a max. of Strength/3 (round) up times per Combat Turn, for either one or for multiple different Attacks.
Critical Strike (Adept Power): The Damage boost from this Power is limited by the Net Hits scored on each attack. You can take ranks in this power as often as you want, but you will want to score a really good hit (one might say: a Critical Strike 8)) to use its full potential.
penllawen:
Those are some great rules, Finsterstang!
--- Quote from: Finstersang on ---If the Strength of the user is higher than the Damage Code, half of the difference (round up) is added to the Damage Code. (Seriously, do the math. It works surprisingly well, even in extreme cases ;))
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...hah, yeah, thats pretty good! I could maybe lose a point or two off the top of the range, so it never exceeds the top end of ballistic weapons; but thats my personal taste. Does it avoid all scenarios where a character does more damage with their fists than a weapon? I think it does but Im just doing it in my head, I might have missed some scenarios.
Michael Chandra:
Should we discuss in this topic, or keep this topic solely for posting and keep debates in other topics?
Dynamic Edge:
- 2 edge max gained per Player Turn or Enemy Action, including temporary Edge. So a Jumped-In Rigger with Thermographic vision at night and a massive Attack Rating attacking twice still only gets 2 Edge, but you can earn 2 Edge per action you are attacked. (This to keep the hard cap on while giving you a bonus if you're attacked a lot.)
- 2 edge KEPT max per combat round, this means any Edge kept past the Action it was received in. If you spend it, it doesn't count against the limit (makes it more dynamic)
- During encounters, max Edge is 9, meaning high-Edge peeps don't have to spend it at once but actually can save up a bit
Grunt Edge:
- 1 Edge Boost allowed per 5 Grunts (rounded up), this to keep them more restricted while still supporting larger groups
- Per 5 grunts (rounded up), can earn 2 Edge max per turn, this to keep their Edge gain more restricted while still supporting larger groups
- If the grunts pass their composure test when members go down, count their original group size for these rules, to signal that for them more than just their own hide is on the line
- Routing grunts cannot gain Edge
Hardened Armor rank/2 autohits
APDS removes 2 autohits
Finstersang:
--- Quote from: penllawen on ---Those are some great rules, Finsterstang!
--- Quote from: Finstersang on ---If the Strength of the user is higher than the Damage Code, half of the difference (round up) is added to the Damage Code. (Seriously, do the math. It works surprisingly well, even in extreme cases ;))
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...hah, yeah, thats pretty good! I could maybe lose a point or two off the top of the range, so it never exceeds the top end of ballistic weapons; but thats my personal taste. Does it avoid all scenarios where a character does more damage with their fists than a weapon? I think it does but Im just doing it in my head, I might have missed some scenarios.
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Thanks :)
As long as there are no Bone Augmentations, Dermal Deposits etc. at work (in that case: fair enough, these are basically weapons in their own regard), you should always deal a bit more damage with a weapon than without - although there are still good reasons to go unarmed with superhuman strenght simply because of the AR. BTW, in the most extreme cases (Troll with 14 Strength with a Combat Axe), you could go up to 5+(14/5)/2 = 10 Damage (round up), compared to 7+1=8 with Unarmed + Dermal Deposits (and still an AR of 15+!).
--- Quote from: Michael Chandra on ---Should we discuss in this topic, or keep this topic solely for posting and keep debates in other topics?
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Erm... good point ;D
Letīs stick to posting houserules (and occasional suggestions to improve other houserules) ;)
Finstersang:
Ok, a bit more about Ranged Combat and Ammo types:
Shotgun Flechettes apply the following Adjustments to the AR of a weapon: 0|+2|-2|-4|-6. They also deal +1 Damage on close all ranges. (Note: I know that Shotguns have only 3 Range bands, but it never hurts to have some more compatibility. Also, see below ;))
Edit: Since their Damage type is Flechette (fl), their Damage potential is affected more by Armor (see my post above). Thus, the increased damage over all ranges
APDS still reduce the DV of the by 1 because of of Overpenetration. They also deny any benefits from having a higher DR and let the shooter ignore up to 4 Bonus dice from either Cover, or from Hardened Armor, Bone Augmentations and other effects that add Soak dice.
Assault Cannon Ammo can be bought as APDS, ExMun and Flechette Shells.
Medium Range is 51 to 150 Meters, Long Range 151 to 500 Meters. (150 Meters as an effective range for a Pistol are hard enough to believe :P)
Have a better one now.
Range Thresholds: When performing any kind of Ranged Attack, there is also an additional range threshold to overcome to determine if the shot is lined up well enough to be able to hit the target in the first place. This threshold starts with 1 (already kinda implicated by the rules...) and increases by 1 for every full 250 Meters the target is away. on close and short ranges, but increases to 2 on medium ranges, 3 on long ranges and 4 on extreme Ranges.
If the Threshold is not met, the shot misses entirely and the target doesnīt have to take a Defense test. If the threshold is met, the target defends as usual. Note that in this case, the range threshold plays no more role for the rest of the calculation of the attack: F.i., The Net Hits are still determined by the difference between the hits of the shooter and the defender, even if the Threshold was higher than the hits of the defense roll.
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