I wish I had the time to recompile that data. It was useful.I've got the data locally before he brought them down, but I don't want to put them out there without his permission.
(and the files are still around somewhere. A couple people have an archive posted online)
Bull
I wish I had the time to recompile that data. It was useful.I've got the data locally before he brought them down, but I don't want to put them out there without his permission.
(and the files are still around somewhere. A couple people have an archive posted online)
Bull
What the hell are in the sixteen boxes he left for George "Locomotive" Fenamore? And to SADLY leave them... Bespeaks something powerful and dreadful.
Stupid bad blood. :'(passion for the setting seems to generate that at some point or other...
still kinda angry that they used the "34,586,224,739.58 in UCAS dollars" bequest on such a crappy storyline, just sayin.
What storyline?Art, the guy that was left that money, was found in the gutter after he had been fired by Fuchi after a life of working for them, born in the Corporate Culture of the Corporation being your Family.
//Begin File Attachment//
From: Priault@zog.com
To: S-K HQ10596@saederkrupp.com
Re: Dankwalther
Master,
Following the latest intelligence reports, subject was located at 23:06 EST. Orbital option was unanimously approved at 23:11, after ZOG analysis estimated he'd be gone before Omega ground team could be activated. Subject was successfully terminated at 23:16. News interdiction was also successful: the KSAF team was delayed pending impact, as per your orders.
Regards,
Priault
//End//
Ah, missed that part. That's what happens when you don't own the books. :'(
"Minimum collateral damage."
The one that always bugged me was "Where the rock meets the sky", just because it's a riddle of some kind and we'll never know what it was intended to be. That one might well be added to *my* will, to bother future generations.You know, we could always just ask Kenson about it....
The one that always bugged me was "Where the rock meets the sky", just because it's a riddle of some kind and we'll never know what it was intended to be. That one might well be added to *my* will, to bother future generations.You know, we could always just ask Kenson about it....
Good. Now go the frag to sleep!
"Go The Frag To Sleep, As Read By: Gary Cline"
To Federated Boeing, the land and mineral rights to the volcanic island that will erupt 301 kilometers due west of Petrolia on October 3rd, 2060.Did the island ever show up?
To the first party to determine what lies behind the door of room 5B78 of the Aztechnology Pyramid in Tenochtitlán and file a report of their findings on Shadowland, I leave 5 million nuyen or medical care for the remainder of their natural life, whichever seems most appropriate.What was behind the door?
To the first party to determine what lies behind the door of room 1835 in the Renraku Arcology in Seattle and report their findings to the Draco Foundation, I leave 5 million nuyen.I know this was mentioned in Shutdown, but did anyone ever claim it?
To the first party to discover what lies behind the door of room 429 of the Saeder-Krupp offices in Berlin and report their findings to Lofwyr, I leave the Arrow of Red Dragon Slaying.Again, anyone ever claim it?
I'll drop him a line, see what he has to say...
(And Dead? Hehe. No, he's just over at Green Ronin these days. :))
Y'know, reading back through the will, there were a few things I'm wondering.Yes. Year of the Comet, p. 86. Turns out that when it appeared, it was nothing special. Then when Halley's passed by orichalcum "woke up" all over the island.QuoteTo Federated Boeing, the land and mineral rights to the volcanic island that will erupt 301 kilometers due west of Petrolia on October 3rd, 2060.Did the island ever show up?
I remember seeing that it was something about Blood magic, but I can't remember where I saw the tidbit.QuoteTo the first party to determine what lies behind the door of room 5B78 of the Aztechnology Pyramid in Tenochtitlán and file a report of their findings on Shadowland, I leave 5 million nuyen or medical care for the remainder of their natural life, whichever seems most appropriate.What was behind the door?
This was virtual room set up by the IE Leonardo in the Arcology's Matrix that was monitoring their system for Artificial Intelligence. [Renraku Arcology Shutdown, p. 86] Should be some interesting records in there, considering the SCIRE was the birthplace of Deus and Morgan/Megaera.QuoteTo the first party to determine what lies behind the door of room 1835 in the Renraku Arcology in Seattle and report their findings to the Draco Foundation, I leave 5 million nuyen.I know this was mentioned in Shutdown, but did anyone ever claim it?
Unknown.QuoteTo the first party to discover what lies behind the door of room 429 of the Saeder-Krupp offices in Berlin and report their findings to Lofwyr, I leave the Arrow of Red Dragon Slaying.Again, anyone ever claim it?
Y'know, reading back through the will, there were a few things I'm wondering.QuoteTo Federated Boeing, the land and mineral rights to the volcanic island that will erupt 301 kilometers due west of Petrolia on October 3rd, 2060.Did the island ever show up?
I'll drop him a line, see what he has to say...
(And Dead? Hehe. No, he's just over at Green Ronin these days. :))
Bull, if you get me that answer, I will owe you *such* a big one.
Seriously. Like, huge.
Okay you two....... GIVE!!!!!
No fair hogging all the toy yerselves. ;)
Or at least send it to me too. ;D
Being a fellow Gun Nut, I'll double The_Gun_Nut's offer if I get the same info. ;D
Philistines!
D was a BIG fan of music, including the older stuff, as witnessed by some of his other bequeaths. The clue was placed there for someone with similar tastes.
It's the Red Rocks Amphitheater in Denver. The 'Rock' he was referring to was Rock Music. It's the highest musical venue in North America and also close to where Ghostwalker emerge. Since nobody found the cache, and the instructions therein, Ghostwalker seized it as seed capital for taking over Denver. I thought that was obvious.
Here's a hint for other GM's out there:It's also worth pointing out that the inverse is also true. Players may doggedly refuse to pick up on the clues a GM means to leave for them, but players will, in the same vein, still absolutely blindside their GM from time to time with a brilliant solution to a problem that the GM never saw coming.
If it's obvious to you, your players will never see it coming at all. Period.
That goes for bad guys and clues they will need to solve the mystery.
If you need to drop clues to your players, use the shotgun approach. Throw 3 or more clues to them, and they might get the hint.
It's also worth pointing out that the inverse is also true. Players may doggedly refuse to pick up on the clues a GM means to leave for them, but players will, in the same vein, still absolutely blindside their GM from time to time with a brilliant solution to a problem that the GM never saw coming.
Oh, life. You zany, unpredictable, scamp.
I'm fairly certain that more people know about Red Rock than know about Shadowrun. It kicked off U2 as a concert band and Under a Blood Red Sky went triple platinum in the US and England, platinum in other countries. That album sold more than 5 million copies. I'm not saying that Shadowrun Characters should know about it, although I'll bet you'd find D had some pull there through his entertainment company. What I am saying is that it isn't some mysterious place I pulled out of my posterior. I'm also saying that when PotD came out, in 1996, the writers had grown up in a musical era colored by U2.
I'm fairly certain that more people know about Red Rock than know about Shadowrun. It kicked off U2 as a concert band and Under a Blood Red Sky went triple platinum in the US and England, platinum in other countries. That album sold more than 5 million copies. I'm not saying that Shadowrun Characters should know about it, although I'll bet you'd find D had some pull there through his entertainment company. What I am saying is that it isn't some mysterious place I pulled out of my posterior. I'm also saying that when PotD came out, in 1996, the writers had grown up in a musical era colored by U2.Uhm, I have no idea where this red rock is and I barely know U2. I dont listen to them as they dont play my style of music. the most i know of them is that that bono guy is with them, i i dont really like him so much.
On a related, but separate, note: I had a huge, "Live Aid" scale, Dunkelzahn tribute concert occur in my game in early '58. Mercurial was there, Concrete Dreams was there. Shield Wall didn't re-form, but several members were there and wound up playing on stage together for the first time in a while. Have to figure out a way to make some of that canon somehow....I think you just made it fan-canon, at least. ;)
Flashback scene in one of the fiction pieces in a book to make it real canon?On a related, but separate, note: I had a huge, "Live Aid" scale, Dunkelzahn tribute concert occur in my game in early '58. Mercurial was there, Concrete Dreams was there. Shield Wall didn't re-form, but several members were there and wound up playing on stage together for the first time in a while. Have to figure out a way to make some of that canon somehow....I think you just made it fan-canon, at least. ;)
I think you just made it fan-canon, at least. ;)I have bigger ambitions than that. :)
Flashback scene in one of the fiction pieces in a book to make it real canon?Hmmmm. This could be doable....
Who has used Dunkie-Pop Popcorn in their Campaigns???Who hasn't?
On a related, but separate, note: I had a huge, "Live Aid" scale, Dunkelzahn tribute concert occur in my game in early '58. Mercurial was there, Concrete Dreams was there. Shield Wall didn't re-form, but several members were there and wound up playing on stage together for the first time in a while. Have to figure out a way to make some of that canon somehow....If this occurred at Red Rocks, then there's a good chance that it was funded with at least part of the treasure horde found there.
ATTENTION! To any and all persons capable of discovering "where a Rock meets the Sky," the 2 million nuyen, amulets and weapons at that place are yours for the keeping provided that you accomplish the task described in the enclosed datachips within 1 year of my demise. The anime will accompany you to make sure the job is done properly. Because this endeavor is of special personal interest to me, I have taken numerous precautions to assure its completion.The task may have been the reformation of Shield Wall, or maybe just a farewell performance by Mercurial.
The problem with it being Stone Mountain is that the CAS built their presidential mansion on top of it.
It also allows the folks to fire back. Makes sense when you're talking about the CAS. :PThe problem with it being Stone Mountain is that the CAS built their presidential mansion on top of it.Which drives me crazy. Clearly, someone had never looked at the place before writing that... a building on top of that thing is wide open for people to shoot at it for miles around! It's just asking for trouble.
The problem with it being Stone Mountain is that the CAS built their presidential mansion on top of it.
Which drives me crazy. Clearly, someone had never looked at the place before writing that... a building on top of that thing is wide open for people to shoot at it for miles around! It's just asking for trouble.
As a Southerner, I can tell you that it makes perfect sense. Beyond the 'we can also fire back' aspect, you have to understand that symbols are very important in the South. Building the mansion on top of Stone Mountain says, "We dare you to try." Which is a very Southern mindset.Not just Southerners.
My theory was always one of those places out in the desert where the combination of mesas and crystal clear lakes created a perfect mirror image, the kind that just looking at it makes you think if you step into the lake you'll fall through the sky and into another world. Sorta like this (http://poncy-mclean.net/art-photography/files/2010/10/image1-590x348.jpg) but with less green around.The Taj Mahal may originally have featured a park that produced such an effect.
True, but we've sorta... distilled it down to it's essence.As a Southerner, I can tell you that it makes perfect sense. Beyond the 'we can also fire back' aspect, you have to understand that symbols are very important in the South. Building the mansion on top of Stone Mountain says, "We dare you to try." Which is a very Southern mindset.Not just Southerners.
True, but we've sorta... distilled it down to it's essence.As a Southerner, I can tell you that it makes perfect sense. Beyond the 'we can also fire back' aspect, you have to understand that symbols are very important in the South. Building the mansion on top of Stone Mountain says, "We dare you to try." Which is a very Southern mindset.Not just Southerners.
Then drank it.
We're bad about that.
True, but we've sorta... distilled it down to it's essence.
Then drank it.
We're bad about that.
True, but we've sorta... distilled it down to it's essence.
Then drank it.
We're bad about that.
Y'know, that sounds more Texan than Southern.
*peer*
WHO ARE YOU REALLY?!
Just a suggestion. Don't go wandering around in the rural parts of Ontario or BC. And I'm pretty sure the rest of the provinces as well. Newfoundland, you're probably safer, as it's out in the open and sold in stores as "Screech".True, but we've sorta... distilled it down to it's essence.As a Southerner, I can tell you that it makes perfect sense. Beyond the 'we can also fire back' aspect, you have to understand that symbols are very important in the South. Building the mansion on top of Stone Mountain says, "We dare you to try." Which is a very Southern mindset.Not just Southerners.
Then drank it.
We're bad about that.
Y'know, that sounds more Texan than Southern.
*peer*
WHO ARE YOU REALLY?!
Where do you think the Texans learned it from?
On a related, but separate, note: I had a huge, "Live Aid" scale, Dunkelzahn tribute concert occur in my game in early '58. Mercurial was there, Concrete Dreams was there. Shield Wall didn't re-form, but several members were there and wound up playing on stage together for the first time in a while. Have to figure out a way to make some of that canon somehow....I seem to recall that there was something canon similar to this.
I found this link when searching for information on the will a couple of weeks ago - is this information canon, or just someone's personal campaign notes?I haven't gone into depth on it. Did you see certain parts that were different than the published will?
http://www.obsidianportal.com/campaign/bug-city-express/wikis/dunkelzahn%E2%80%99s-will
• First Key of Power: To be given over to either Tir Tairngire or Tir na nOg, whichever nation first publicly discloses the complete personal histories of all of its high government officials. This disclosure must be supervised by the Draco Foundation in accordance with my instructions. Speratemel rel timaan perest? Hellon Sperethiel.
• To Aden, I leave the Shroud of Shadows. May its shade cool the heat of your desert home as well as the tempers that flare around it.
• To further encourage an end to the use of blood magic by Aztechnology and other parties, I offer a bounty of 1 million nuyen on any blood mages captured alive and delivered to the Dunkelzahn Institute of Magical Research for the purposes of studying the effects of blood magic use on metahumanity. I further authorize the Draco Foundation to provide suitable rewards for the receipt of verifiable accounts of blood magic use, the rewards to reflect the usefulness of the information provided.
• In order to discourage the proliferation of toxic shamans, I offer a bounty of 1 million nuyen on any toxic shamans captured alive and delivered to the Dunkelzahn Institute of Magical Research for the purposes of studying the effects of toxicity on the physical and astral presence of such shamans, and how they in turn impact the physical and astral world.
• To the first ghoul community to be legally recognized by the United Nations, I leave 2 million nuyen, to further understanding and tolerance of ghouls as a race and allow them to live in peace with other metahumans.
• To Lung, I leave the Second Coin of Luck in hopes that he might benefit from the long view as I have. (These coins have been floating in and out of circulation pretty much indefinitely.)
• To the first party to determine what the accompanying photos of Mars (1 2 3), taken by NASA just prior to the Ares Macrotechnology buyout, represent and who can prove their theory to the Draco Foundation, I leave 1 percent interest in Ares.
• To Sharon Chiang-Wu, I leave the Third Coin of Luck.
I found this link when searching for information on the will a couple of weeks ago - is this information canon, or just someone's personal campaign notes?
http://www.obsidianportal.com/campaign/bug-city-express/wikis/dunkelzahn%E2%80%99s-will
To James Meiers, I leave a small token of my esteem, to be distributed by the Draco Foundation. Meiers was a combat decker who went by the handle Inflict. He received, among other things, a share of Renraku stock.James! You never told us!!
Indeed. Wish for too much, and you might find yourself opposed by people who have a lot of 'wishes' on their side, and don't aim to let others in at the table. Though actually, a kind of immortality would be within reach, if you include a Formula Spirit Pact...
No, that's a good way for a bunch of runners to go the way of Artie-boy. If a runner team ever gets their hands on a Thor shot, they will be taken out, period.
No, that's a good way for a bunch of runners to go the way of Artie-boy. If a runner team ever gets their hands on a Thor shot, they will be taken out, period.They'll live forever. Immortalized if not in history than certainly in geography.
No, sorry. The megas will never hand over Thor to a single person. They just won't. And I don't care if the run is to assassinate all the dragons put together, calling in weapons of mass destruction is a sure-fire way to get yourself very, very dead. You know how stealth-killing every guard you see is a good way to get a corp reprisal team after you? Now picture what happens when you nuke a city.
So how potent is the Draco Foundation's wish, barring immortality. It seems you can have anything you want, does it include personal access to the Thor Shots?
No, it very much is beyond the Draco Foundation's abilities to get hold of a Thor shot. Orbital weapons are controlled directly by the Corporate Court. At best, the DF can ask the Court to hand them over. But they won't, because they know the Court would simply say "Hell no!" and set about trying to tear down the DF for even considering such a thing. The very possibility that command and control of orbital weapons was compromised caused the whole system to be shut down until the protocols could be replaced and security upgraded.No, sorry. The megas will never hand over Thor to a single person. They just won't. And I don't care if the run is to assassinate all the dragons put together, calling in weapons of mass destruction is a sure-fire way to get yourself very, very dead. You know how stealth-killing every guard you see is a good way to get a corp reprisal team after you? Now picture what happens when you nuke a city.
As I say, you can also pawn it off to a Mega for cash and their loyalty for having a bargaining chip since it is an overkill weapon and effectively a DEM in a run. Remember the foundation offers one wish and I think total control of the Thor Shot system isn't something beyond them.
That would be grimderp, even for Shadowrun.So how potent is the Draco Foundation's wish, barring immortality. It seems you can have anything you want, does it include personal access to the Thor Shots?
Maybe.
"Oh, you want a Thor Shot? Go on home and it will be delivered." *a few hours later after the character is home* "Fire." *character's neighborhood now vaporized*
Maybe. But the fact remains that launching Thor without the approval of the Corporate Court or a national military is going to result in annihilation of the group responsible. You'd have a bounty on your head so large it makes the bounties on blood mages and toxic shamans look like loose change you found under the couch cushions.
And no, Sendaz, the dragons are not friendly with the Draco Foundation. They but heads quite a bit, over the things in Dunkelzahn's will, Drakes, artifacts, and so on.
And no, Sendaz, the dragons are not friendly with the Draco Foundation. They but heads quite a bit, over the things in Dunkelzahn's will, Drakes, artifacts, and so on.Friendly has nothing to do with business.
And no, Sendaz, the dragons are not friendly with the Draco Foundation. They but heads quite a bit, over the things in Dunkelzahn's will, Drakes, artifacts, and so on.
To the first party to identify the victim in the accompanying photo and bring his five perpetrators to justice, I leave the access codes to my property in Paris. The Draco Foundation will release the codes upon receipt and verification of a complete account of the investigation, including the fate of the victim and the perpetrators.
hate crime, why the big d chose that foto ?that is the Q
For a period of ten days beginning on 14 February 2057, Lars J. Matthews will cease to possess any legal status. He will be stripped of all evidence of legal existence, including SIN, credsticks, DocWagon contract, bank accounts and so on. To the individual or group who ends Lars J. Matthews’ physical existence during those ten days, I leave all of Matthews’ assets and 1 million nuyen for a job well done. If Mr. Matthews survives and can prove his identity, his legal status and all possessions will be restored to him. Haven’t you heard? Never deal with a dragon, Lars.
What happened with the above request and what did Lars ever do to Big D?
For a period of ten days beginning on 14 February 2057, Lars J. Matthews will cease to possess any legal status. He will be stripped of all evidence of legal existence, including SIN, credsticks, DocWagon contract, bank accounts and so on. To the individual or group who ends Lars J. Matthews’ physical existence during those ten days, I leave all of Matthews’ assets and 1 million nuyen for a job well done. If Mr. Matthews survives and can prove his identity, his legal status and all possessions will be restored to him. Haven’t you heard? Never deal with a dragon, Lars.
What happened with the above request and what did Lars ever do to Big D?
This was a shadowrun mission way back, like 2008 it was titled 48 hours. The runners were protecting him for the last 48 hours of this trial.
[spoiler]
In the last 10 minutes someone lookin exactly like Lars kills him and walks away after paying the runners for their services.
Was that mission in any of the published books, or was it just something for a con?For a period of ten days beginning on 14 February 2057, Lars J. Matthews will cease to possess any legal status. He will be stripped of all evidence of legal existence, including SIN, credsticks, DocWagon contract, bank accounts and so on. To the individual or group who ends Lars J. Matthews’ physical existence during those ten days, I leave all of Matthews’ assets and 1 million nuyen for a job well done. If Mr. Matthews survives and can prove his identity, his legal status and all possessions will be restored to him. Haven’t you heard? Never deal with a dragon, Lars.
What happened with the above request and what did Lars ever do to Big D?
This was a shadowrun mission way back, like 2008 it was titled 48 hours. The runners were protecting him for the last 48 hours of this trial.
[spoiler]
In the last 10 minutes someone lookin exactly like Lars kills him and walks away after paying the runners for their services.
For a period of ten days beginning on 14 February 2057, Lars J. Matthews will cease to possess any legal status. He will be stripped of all evidence of legal existence, including SIN, credsticks, DocWagon contract, bank accounts and so on. To the individual or group who ends Lars J. Matthews’ physical existence during those ten days, I leave all of Matthews’ assets and 1 million nuyen for a job well done. If Mr. Matthews survives and can prove his identity, his legal status and all possessions will be restored to him. Haven’t you heard? Never deal with a dragon, Lars.
What happened with the above request and what did Lars ever do to Big D?
This was a shadowrun mission way back, like 2008 it was titled 48 hours. The runners were protecting him for the last 48 hours of this trial.
[spoiler]
In the last 10 minutes someone lookin exactly like Lars kills him and walks away after paying the runners for their services.
Any explanation about what Lars did that made the Big D want to bring him down with him? Or did Lars do him and a favor and the Big D was helping him fake his own death since the Big D assets would no longer be able to protect once he kicked it?
I hate to sound like a broken record but are there details available of exactly why Dunkelzahn essentially had a hit put out on Lars J. Matthews and went to great lengths to make sure that he kicked it but separating him from anything that might be able to keep him from being six feet under?No. That's the only time he was ever mentioned, or will probably ever be mentioned. It's been 18 years. I think the statute of repose date has passed on Lars for good. A lot of the bequests in the will have no explanation because they were never intended to be explained or mentioned again. Sometimes there isn't an explanation for something that is mentioned or happens in the game world.
Now when you think about it. It all lands on a 7. Feburary 14 aka 14/2...2057 2+5+7 = 14. Since 777 is a way to say jackpot and Fastjacks last name is Matthew. I see that Jackpoint was involved with a dragon. Asking Big D to help him hide and in his case if he had fallen to sybil...find runners to stop before its too late. So yeah Fastjack dealt with big D to prepare for the crash seven years from now and this was a warm up.Wow. I doubt that was the intent.
Now when you think about it. It all lands on a 7. Feburary 14 aka 14/2...2057 2+5+7 = 14. Since 777 is a way to say jackpot and Fastjacks last name is Matthew. I see that Jackpoint was involved with a dragon. Asking Big D to help him hide and in his case if he had fallen to sybil...find runners to stop before its too late. So yeah Fastjack dealt with big D to prepare for the crash seven years from now and this was a warm up.Wow. I doubt that was the intent.
Now when you think about it. It all lands on a 7. Feburary 14 aka 14/2...2057 2+5+7 = 14. Since 777 is a way to say jackpot and Fastjacks last name is Matthew. I see that Jackpoint was involved with a dragon. Asking Big D to help him hide and in his case if he had fallen to sybil...find runners to stop before its too late. So yeah Fastjack dealt with big D to prepare for the crash seven years from now and this was a warm up.
Now when you think about it. It all lands on a 7. Feburary 14 aka 14/2...2057 2+5+7 = 14. Since 777 is a way to say jackpot and Fastjacks last name is Matthew. I see that Jackpoint was involved with a dragon. Asking Big D to help him hide and in his case if he had fallen to sybil...find runners to stop before its too late. So yeah Fastjack dealt with big D to prepare for the crash seven years from now and this was a warm up.Wow. I doubt that was the intent.
When did they let Plan 9 on here? :P
Sort of. The last time the DF gave anything out from the will was like 2068.There is one bequest to be handed in 2071, and one which is required for as long as the Draco Foundation exists.
To Morgan Leroy Hall, on the occasion of his reaching his majority at eighteen years of age on June 28, 2071, I leave all stocks in my Florence portfolio. Until this time, no transactions may take place involving these stocks. Any votes to which these shares are entitled shall be undertaken by Morgan’s legal guardian. I also leave 1 million nuyen in a trust fund to be managed by his legal guardian for his care and schooling until his twenty-first birthday, the remainder of which will transfer to Morgan Hall on his twenty-first birthday.
Beginning in February of 2058, the Draco Foundation will sponsor two annual competitions for the purpose of advancing the frontiers of knowledge, with an emphasis on practical applications. These competitions will be open to the public, with no entrance fee and no formal qualifications required. Winners will receive a patent established in their name by the Draco Foundation, and additional resources for development if applicable.
The first competition (time and date to be announced) will judge magical innovations, including but not limited to such categories as Spell Design, Magical Theory, Magical Objects and Astral Exploration. The second competition will judge technological innovations, including but not limited to such categories as Rigger Technology, Space Technology, Matrix Technology, Medical Technology and Cybernetics. This competition will take place roughly six months after the first competition.
But yeah, we're still waiting on the Tirs to disclose the full bios of their founders, for instance, and for Aztlan to give up blood magic.Too late for the latter.
To the Aztechnology corporation, I leave the Sexton of Worlds, with the provision that the corporation and the government of Aztlan ban the practice of blood magic in territories under their jurisdiction within a year of my death and submit to an outside investigation to verify this ban, the investigator to be designated by and answerable to the Draco Foundation.
Well, IIRC, Fuchi's demise came because of two things. First, Miles Lanier, head of Fuchi Security, got a board seat at Renraku, Fuchi's primary rival. That would be like one of the big guys at Apple suddenly getting a seat on Microsoft's board. Second, he gave Villiers more shares of Fuchi, enabling him to roll enough core properties into RJR, which he was then able to break off and turn into Novatech. So basically, Big D gave a one-two punch to Fuchi, and also shook up Renraku something awful at the same time.My point is that what happened entirely relied on Richard Villiers will to leave Fuchi and start a new corporation he would own. Miles Lanier was actually so loyal to him that he kept working toward that goal while seating on Renraku board of directors. Had Richard Villiers been perfectly happy to keep on running Fuchi like he did from the two decades, only with a little bit more voting stock, a trustful mole inside Renraku and a new head of security, Fuchi may still be around.
I was thinking more to us as players, GMs, and writers....:P
Morgan Hall is a plot thread that could be picked up. Neat!There is one. The reason I remembered Hall is because I wrote that he is a student at Georgetown in Conspiracy Theories, and his going to the foundation HQ to finalize the paperwork and receive full control of Dunkelzahn's gift in 2071 was the last time that something had been claimed from the will — notwithstanding the money given in the competitions and from the Ancient Wisdom Fund. Bounties ... Eh.
Well, IIRC, Fuchi's demise came because of two things. First, Miles Lanier, head of Fuchi Security, got a board seat at Renraku, Fuchi's primary rival. That would be like one of the big guys at Apple suddenly getting a seat on Microsoft's board.You mean like when Eric Schmidt was elected to Apple's board in 2006?
Almost certain Big D knew about it, Nath, since having a seat on the board means you get to know a LOT about what is going on inside a mega. Also, one of his bequests directly related to a virtual room in the SCIRE host that had Leonardo's notes on AI research.I remembered Miles Lanier, while a member of the board, was kept in the dark about Brightlight association with Renraku (yes, I prefer to avoid calling him "Leonardo" to avoid confusion for the people who may not know that "Leonardo is not Leonardo"). But that was because he was Miles Lanier, former head of Fuchi security. The random board member who had been with Renraku for years previously may have been taught about it (as I don't expect Dunkelzahn to have personally attended Renraku and Aztechnology boards).
As for Fuchi, they'd been at eachother's throats long before Blood in the Boardroom or Big D's death. And I think you're understating things when you say 'gentle pushes'. That was a sledgehammer to the kneecaps. Villiers is a longtime schemer. Didn't take a dragon to know that if he could find a way to be the one guy in charge of a megacorp instead of part of a triumvirate, he would jump at it if it had any chance at all of succeeding.The thing is, nothing that Dunkelzahn did contributed to Villiers plan itself. He used his personal and familial fortune to fund the takeover of Fuchi Americas assets by Cambridge Holdings and Villiers International, and his position as head of Fuchi Americas to authorize the sales and hide them from Fuchi Industrial Electronics management. That's something he could have done at any point ever since 2038.
No one's claimed the Jiffy Pop bequest? I got dibs....Not officially. I would've mentioned it in Clutch if I had time/wordcount.
I swear, if I ever write anything *half* as useful as Dunk's Will, I'll consider myself a good writer. That book remains astounding to this day.Looking back, it should have won the 1997 ENnie for best supplement or even best product given its impact. True genius is often overlooked in its own time, I guess.
No one's claimed the Jiffy Pop bequest? I got dibs....Some say the Big D actually blew himself up that night in the limo trying out a prototype Jiffy Pop.
He used a Microwave spell.No one's claimed the Jiffy Pop bequest? I got dibs....Some say the Big D actually blew himself up that night in the limo trying out a prototype Jiffy Pop.
A few crime scene investigators did report a light buttery smell at the scene of the rift, so take that as you will. :P
Will Left Overs:
• To the party who finds the bones of the Dragon Skeleton for which I possess the head, I offer two options. You may keep the bones or turn them over to the Draco Foundation for a reward. All discoveries must be independently verified as Dragon bones, such identification to be made by any living dragon. The Draco Foundation will assemble all pieces of the skeleton it receives and display the results in the Smithsonian Institution for the edification of the general public. My admittedly incomplete research indicates the following coordinates as the likely locations for the Dragon bones: Lat 41, Long 121; Lat 41 50n, Long 87-45w; Lat 47-21n, Long 122-12w; Lat 19-24n, Long 99-9w; Lat 65, Long 130; Lat 39-44n, Long 104-59w
Latitude | Longitude | Altitude (m) | Address | ||
N | 41 | E | 121 | 33 | Unnamed Road, Lianshan, Huludao, Liaoning, China |
N | 41 | W | 121 | 1634 | Modoc National Forest, Dixie Valley Road, Bieber, CA 96009, USA |
S | 41 | W | 121 | -3809 | At Sea, West of Chile |
S | 41 | E | 121 | -4855 | At Sea, South of Australia |
N | 41-50 | W | 87-45 | 185 | 3237 50th Court, Cicero, IL 60804, USA |
N | 47-21 | W | 122-12 | 124 | 10500-10698 Southeast 281st Street, Auburn, WA 98092, USA |
N | 19-24 | W | 99-9 | 2231 | Diagonal San Antonio 1725, Narvarte Poniente, 03020 Mexico City, Federal District, Mexico |
N | 65 | E | 130 | 1299 | Sakha Republic, Russia, 678318 |
N | 65 | W | 130 | 1354 | Inuvik Region, NT, Canada |
S | 65 | W | 130 | -4740 | At Sea, Antarctica South Pacific |
S | 65 | E | 130 | -995 | At Sea, Between Antarctica & Australia |
N | 39-44 | W | 104-59 | 1378 | 218 Provincial Road, Alxa Zuoqi, Alxa, Inner Mongolia, China |
Aren't dragons supposed to be "reduced to ash by dragonsbreath" after they die?And why would someone scatter dragon bones?Two possibilities jump to mind:
The fact that Azzies built their nasty main temple on some dragon bones is frightening.
I wish catalyst continued these metaplots someday.
But where would one get a cape and coffin in that size? :PWal-Mart.
Its possible that great dragon's don't "die" in the traditional sense.As far as Earthdawn lore goes, what happened to Yuichotol wasn't considered as something normal for dead dragons to do at the time.
The Book of DragonsThe Clutch of Dragons, saying Lofwyr was the one who shattered Ghostwalker's mate spirit several thousand years before the Sixth Age, which may hint at how the dragons did "revisit the matter."
The most intriguing of Icewing's spirit allies is the one Named Ghost Scales. I strongly suspect that this is in fact the spirit of the Yuichotol, killed by the Therans before the Scourge. Yuichotol mated with Icewing on more than one occasion, and she was as adept in manipulating spirits forces as he is. Together they enchanted a set of powerful soul-stones, similar to those used by the nethermancers of the Hold of Courage in ancient Cara Fahd, so tha if one should die, their spirit would remain trapped within the stone. This transgression of dragon customs has yet to be atoned for. Her current state and powers are unfathomable to me, but I understand he has several magical constructs which allow her to speak and move. I would grieve to discover that one so great as she had sunken to become merely another doll of his.
- The Outcast Dragon, to the Denairastas
I understand there exists a difference of opinion on this matter between Doll-Maker, Ghost Scales and myself on one hand and many others on the other. May I remind you that at the last Council we allotted Ghost Scales a period of peace which she has not yet exhausted. Once that time has ended, we shall revisit the matter.
- Dunkelzahn, to the other dragons
Its possible that great dragon's don't "die" in the traditional sense. Feuerschwinge's astral form was spotted 3 years after her "death." But then again she probably didn't actually die.Shadowrun Returns: Dragonfall is I think officially Canon for those events. As for the big D, he did a special sacrifice thing so it's an exception, not the rule.
So at the end of the day, dragon's are cheaters, and do whatever they want, even after they die.
Together they enchanted a set of powerful soul-stones, similar to those used by the nethermancers of the Hold of Courage in ancient Cara Fahd, so tha if one should die, their spirit would remain trapped within the stone.
I'm not privy to all the details about Feuerschwinge (and even if I were, I wouldn't tell you), but as I recall the German government never recovered her remains. It's also been established that radiation and mana have unusual interactions, to say the least. I suppose it is not purely coincidental that when Pegasus translated Street Legends, two of the four entries they added were for Kaltenstein and Nebelherr, the two Great Dragons that were present along with Lofwyr when Feuerschwinge died.Man now I want to read that, Kaltenstein is Kalanyr's father right, or am I recalling that wrong?
It doesn't mention Kalanyr.I'm not privy to all the details about Feuerschwinge (and even if I were, I wouldn't tell you), but as I recall the German government never recovered her remains. It's also been established that radiation and mana have unusual interactions, to say the least. I suppose it is not purely coincidental that when Pegasus translated Street Legends, two of the four entries they added were for Kaltenstein and Nebelherr, the two Great Dragons that were present along with Lofwyr when Feuerschwinge died.Man now I want to read that, Kaltenstein is Kalanyr's father right, or am I recalling that wrong?
I'm not privy to all the details about Feuerschwinge (and even if I were, I wouldn't tell you), but as I recall the German government never recovered her remains. It's also been established that radiation and mana have unusual interactions, to say the least. I suppose it is not purely coincidental that when Pegasus translated Street Legends, two of the four entries they added were for Kaltenstein and Nebelherr, the two Great Dragons that were present along with Lofwyr when Feuerschwinge died.Man now I want to read that, Kaltenstein is Kalanyr's father right, or am I recalling that wrong?
As for miss Fire Lady, she's in SRR and stuff happens, not sure if it's 100% canon.
And if it is Canon which choices were we supposed to have made regarding the key plot points
Dunkelzhn, Zebulon, and Ghostwalker all basically ended up on extended Metaplanar quests. They could only do so because they had anchors to the meatworld: the Dragonheart, the souls stones, and Ghostwalker's body respectively. That is something dragons can do that metahumans cannot, owing, it would seem, to apocryphally spiritual origins. Lofwyr did the same thing in Ragnarock when he anchored his spirit to Tommy Talon to make Alamais think the golden wyrm was dead.
I'm not privy to all the details about Feuerschwinge (and even if I were, I wouldn't tell you), but as I recall the German government never recovered her remains. It's also been established that radiation and mana have unusual interactions, to say the least. I suppose it is not purely coincidental that when Pegasus translated Street Legends, two of the four entries they added were for Kaltenstein and Nebelherr, the two Great Dragons that were present along with Lofwyr when Feuerschwinge died.
I don't think you can kill a totem spirit directly. In fact, in Street Grimoire it's pretty specific that you cannot target a totem spirit, and often times those that don't follow a totem spirit can't even sense the spirit at all. Which makes me wonder: how would you kill a totem spirit? Or perhaps more precisely, what is a totem spirit? It doesn't follow the normal rules for a spirit at all (can't be bound, can't be summoned, can't be attacked, can't be sensed, etc.) and yet it's almost universally referred to as a spirit. People make pacts with their totem spirits, they can summon ally spirits that are aligned with a totem, and some other things that seem... spirit-ish.....
My take on it is that the totem "spirit" is a creation of astral energy that reflects ideals and concepts. This would make them spirits in some regard, but I would argue that they can't exist without people who believe in them. For instance, Coyote. The coyote animal is not actually a trickster or anything special. So the Coyote totem does not reflect the coyote animal at all - instead it reflects the ideal of trickery. It only appears as Coyote to those that believe in Coyote. It could just as easily appear as Clown, Raven, or just Trickery as a pure ideal. These manifestations can take thousands of guises, but never actually enter our world. Thus the spirit isn't a true spirit, but rather a concept given astral form and power.
Thus, I believe that a totem spirit is not a spirit at all, but it can be subject to some of the rules of a spirit. If one wanted to "kill" a totem, they'd have to kill the ideal that the totem represents. Some of these ideals or concepts are rather convoluted though. Dragonslayer for instance is a hero - how does one kill the concept of heroism in the world? It's ingrained into the very fiber of our being.
I thought Sam Verner released an actual Spider totot/spirit; he was trying to turn his formerly human-turned-ork-turned-wendigo back into a human, and he stole the anchor / power focus stone on the spider spirits prison to do so. Berber pretty much went up against half the possible big bad magic things out there.
I don't think you can kill a totem spirit directly. In fact, in Street Grimoire it's pretty specific that you cannot target a totem spirit, and often times those that don't follow a totem spirit can't even sense the spirit at all. Which makes me wonder: how would you kill a totem spirit? Or perhaps more precisely, what is a totem spirit? It doesn't follow the normal rules for a spirit at all (can't be bound, can't be summoned, can't be attacked, can't be sensed, etc.) and yet it's almost universally referred to as a spirit. People make pacts with their totem spirits, they can summon ally spirits that are aligned with a totem, and some other things that seem... spirit-ish.I wholeheartedly agree. The totems are concepts with animals, people, objects etc. appropriate to particular culture as their... "embodiment".
My take on it is that the totem "spirit" is a creation of astral energy that reflects ideals and concepts. This would make them spirits in some regard, but I would argue that they can't exist without people who believe in them. For instance, Coyote. The coyote animal is not actually a trickster or anything special. So the Coyote totem does not reflect the coyote animal at all - instead it reflects the ideal of trickery. It only appears as Coyote to those that believe in Coyote. It could just as easily appear as Clown, Raven, or just Trickery as a pure ideal. These manifestations can take thousands of guises, but never actually enter our world. Thus the spirit isn't a true spirit, but rather a concept given astral form and power.
Thus, I believe that a totem spirit is not a spirit at all, but it can be subject to some of the rules of a spirit. If one wanted to "kill" a totem, they'd have to kill the ideal that the totem represents. Some of these ideals or concepts are rather convoluted though. Dragonslayer for instance is a hero - how does one kill the concept of heroism in the world? It's ingrained into the very fiber of our being.
And if it is Canon which choices were we supposed to have made regarding the key plot pointsSpoiler warnings, obviously.
It is unlikely that the Clockwork of SRR is the Hobgoblin Rigger Technomancer-hater Clockwork that we all know and hate. Dragonfall takes place in 2054. Hobgoblin Clockwork is an ork metavarient, so assumably will live as long as your average ork of 40 years. We can assume that Clockwork of SRR is a seasoned runner, so probably in his 20's. We know Clockwork is still alive in 2076, 22 years after the events of SRR Dragonfall. So that'd make Clockwork in his 40's, and getting close to his death bed.
I believe Hobgoblin Clockwork's first appearance was in 2064, in Loose Alliances. So its possible that Hobgoblin Clockwork took over the Clockwork persona at this time.
But, there are ways to explain this other than having two Clockworks. Clockwork could have goblinized into a Hobgoblin which would leave him with his normal human lifespan. Its possible that Clockwork didn't die to APEX, but went deeper into the shadows, while APEX pretended to be him. This could also help explain his hatred of Technomancers, if he links AI's with Otaku and later to Technomancers. Since TM's/Otakus are clearly servants to AI's which almost killed him, he'd naturally be untrusting of them.
For all we know there could be dozens of Clockworks, and all of them ever heard of each other or THE Clockwork.So it's the Dread Pirate Clockwork then? :P
For all we know there could be dozens of Clockworks, and all of them ever heard of each other or THE Clockwork.So it's the Dread Pirate Clockwork then? :P