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« Reply #15 on: <11-29-10/1449:39> »
Well, I can only speak for my own GM judgment call, but I'd say the character only has that one "main hand" that he favors above the others. Now, regarding the BP, there could be house rules to allow it (for instance, my own house rule is that your overall BP's from qualities has to be within 35 to -35 BP, so you could have 70 positive and 35 negative qualities), or you could keep the restriction and the character has the main hand, some ambidextrous hands and some off-hands--using Karma later to make those off hands ambidextrous.

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« Reply #16 on: <11-29-10/1639:06> »
You're clear, UV. Everyone's tending to side on the one main hand and 5 off-hands approach, however.
Not everyone !

I'm on UVs side !
1 Ambidexterity per set of Arms not per Each Arm
Having 1 Main Hand and one Offhand per Set of Arms seems Normal to Me (Well mine are exactly that way)

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« Reply #17 on: <11-29-10/1640:16> »
A person with four arms is in trouble but six is just silly. I'm suprised the GM allowed a changling who then surged even more odd. The social negatives must be getting nasty

My understanding is that changelings are the folks affected by SURGE. Perhaps you mean a metavariant affected by SURGE? But that doesn't seem any odder to me than a metavariant or a changeling already is.

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« Reply #18 on: <11-29-10/1717:03> »
Well my it seems a hotly talked about topic here. Greetings.

And to clarify I'm just posing the question as a dutiful husband as my wife's magician is the Nartiki with six arms.

And I'm also on "UV's Side" with this. To me, the wording in the Quality seems to indicate that each pair of arms has a dominant hand. To me anyway.

What's funny is that she's not even carrying a gun. She carries some knives and such but she's a magician not a samurai. hah.

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« Reply #19 on: <11-29-10/1730:40> »
Having 1 Main Hand and one Offhand per Set of Arms seems Normal to Me (Well mine are exactly that way)
Yes, thats normal when you have only 2 hand, but to mee it seems highly illogical that you would suddently have more dominant hands when you get more hands.
IMO it's must more logical, that no matter how many arms you have only one of those is your dominant hand, unless your ambidextrous to one decree or an other.
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« Reply #20 on: <11-29-10/1735:57> »
but to mee it seems highly illogical that you would suddently have more dominant hands when you get more hands.
And to Me its highly illogical  that the other Armpairs are different.
Why should one Pair of Arms have no Mainhand ?
Do You know People with no Mainhand ?

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« Reply #21 on: <11-29-10/1736:36> »
I'll state it again.... as I have said before I don't get wanting more than 2 arms OTHER than total role-play as by the rules you can't use more than 2 hands.

actions in game are 2 simple or 1 complex per turn reguardless of how many turns you get in an initive pass.

You use a simple weapon 2 times with one hand or you use a simple weapon once with 2 hands next turn use the same hand or hands. The other 4 hands sit there going um tell us again why we're here.
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« Reply #22 on: <11-29-10/1738:53> »
Out of curiosity, I just looked it up and it looks like 1 in 400 people is naturally ambidextrous.  It's more common for people who are naturally left-handed to be ambidextrous to some degree, if they learned it in school or taught themselves at a young age.  Just thought it was an interesting fact to share.

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« Reply #23 on: <11-29-10/1740:08> »
I'll state it again.... as I have said before I don't get wanting more than 2 arms OTHER than total role-play as by the rules you can't use more than 2 hands.
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« Reply #24 on: <11-29-10/1743:23> »
As to the question asked...

I see it this way the character is NOT getting new hands when takeing the human variant this character was born with 4 hands ONLY 1 of them was a main hand so that requires Ambidexterity 3 times.

As to adding on yet another set of arms via surge I'd have to agree with most of the other people here includeing the OP's GM that the new arms that grew due to surge are also non-main hands and thus require Ambidexterity 2 more times.
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« Reply #25 on: <11-29-10/1744:36> »
I'll state it again.... as I have said before I don't get wanting more than 2 arms OTHER than total role-play as by the rules you can't use more than 2 hands.
And i'll explain to you once again, that you can shoot six guns in one simple action if you have six arms to hold those guns. Seriously man i could swore i explained all of this to you the first time.
Ofcource as the character thiss topic is pertaining to is a mage, i can't see how she would in anyway benefit from extra hands, it's not like she actually needs even the first two.

And to Me its highly illogical  that the other Armpairs are different.
Why should one Pair of Arms have no Mainhand ?
Do You know People with no Mainhand ?
Why are you even thinking of them as 2 or 3 pairs and not just 4 or 6 arms of witch you have one main hand just like everbody else in the planet who's not ambidextrous.
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« Reply #26 on: <11-29-10/1744:44> »
Out of curiosity, I just looked it up and it looks like 1 in 400 people is naturally ambidextrous.  It's more common for people who are naturally left-handed to be ambidextrous to some degree, if they learned it in school or taught themselves at a young age.  Just thought it was an interesting fact to share.
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I think the 1 : 400 Ratio is the same like 1 : 100 Ratio of Awakened
Its not valid for Player Groups (You have much,much more at the Table )

By the Way I'm quite dextrous with my left Hand ,not really Ambidextrous ,but quite ...Nimble (right Word ?) one more Reason why I don't think that you have to get Abidexterity for Each Hand
@ Mäx
Why are you even thinking of them as 2 or 3 pairs and not just 4 or 6 arms of witch you have one main hand just like everbody else in the planet who's not ambidextrous.
Why aren't you thinking of Pairs like everybody else on this Planet
We have Pairs of Arms,Legs,Trousers,Eyes etc
Yes,everybody on this Planet has one Mainhand and one Offhand per Pair of Arms thats exactly what I'm saying
So why should'nt Nartaki ?

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« Reply #27 on: <11-29-10/1746:03> »
...Akimbo Gunfighting

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And this has what to do with my comment??
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« Reply #28 on: <11-29-10/1747:08> »
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I think the 1 : 400 Ratio is the same like 1 : 100 Ratio of Awakened
Its not valid for Player Groups (You have much,much more at the Table )
I know.  As I said, I was just curious about what the actual number of ambidextrous people was.  Plus, it gives people a better idea of how common such a character would be.

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« Reply #29 on: <11-29-10/1749:43> »
And i'll explain to you once again, that you can shoot six guns in one simple action if you have six arms to hold those guns.

Yeah ok show me the rules that break the rule that says how many actions you get in a turn as outlined in the core rule book.
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