That makes me wonder: what are the quivilent calibers of modern firearms to their Sixth World successors? Would "heavy pistol" ammo be more of a .40, .45, or .375? Or would "light pistol" rounds be like a .38 or 9mm?
Technically the street sweeper is a blunderbus/musket. So you got your basics already.True. That's likely what I would use as the basis for any I made. Though working in the various firing mechanisms could be tricky.
Oh, and good to see ya back, Monky. Where you been?Thanks. I've been around. I just go through cycles where I'll be online a lot then won't touch the net for a while. And my Arcanum addiction flared a while back.
And my Arcanum addiction flared a while back.You know they make creams for that. ;D
Why is it you talk of firing mechanisms and I suddenly picture grenade traps made of slingshots and such in dilapidated old buildings...Heh heh. People need to know what they're in for when they trespass in one of my properties. ;D
You know they make creams for that. ;DYeah, but I was pretty broke for a while there and couldn't afford them.
Holy Schnikies!!! What did I do? It was an idle question for what was a light conversation. I did not know it would cause such an uproar. I know that the firearms rules were made specifically to avoid such a headache and am fully against actually TRYING to implement such a thing...just wondering in vague terms, specifically sense we were talking "vintage', if anyone had any thoughts on the matter to further the conversation.Nothing to apologize for, man. It's just a conversation, man, no big deal. It's the whole reason we're here, isn't it?
Wow, next time Ill keep my mouth shut.
It's just a conversation, man, no big deal. It's the whole reason we're here, isn't it?
Holy Schnikies!!! What did I do?
It was an idle question for what was a light conversation. I did not know it would cause such an uproar. I know that the SR firearms rules were made specifically to avoid such a headache and am fully against actually TRYING to implement such a thing...just wondering in vague terms, specifically sense we were talking "vintage', if anyone had any thoughts on the matter to further the conversation.
Wow, next time Ill keep my mouth shut. :o :-\
It's just a conversation, man, no big deal. It's the whole reason we're here, isn't it?
WHAT?? Not the flames, rules-lawyering, bitching about product deadlines? Dammit...
Never had that happen because not in D20 modern, but in the old Twilight 2000 game my group briefly ran. Talk about a logistical NIGHTMARE! Not only were we going after ammo, but parts, fuel, ways to purify water, etc etc. I need a tylenol just thinking about it.
My Vintage Gun ;D
so what exactilly the issue with that question? I'm just wondering. Also, is there a gun simaler to the desert eagle?That makes me wonder: what are the quivilent calibers of modern firearms to their Sixth World successors? Would "heavy pistol" ammo be more of a .40, .45, or .375? Or would "light pistol" rounds be like a .38 or 9mm?
Leave the lid tight on that box!
Such questions are explicitly ignored in the RAW for a reason. . . (shudders in pained memory of d20 Modern ammo. . .)
If someone wanted a vintage gun, or I put one in for plot reasons, it would require its own, unique, ammo. I'll blame it on changes to smokeless powder in the intervening years and slight changes to caliber that are blessedly not addressed for the regular guns. Then I'd laugh at the look of despair as the players realize they have a gun for which they need to scrounge ammo.
Joins Medicineman. . . Keep that lid down!
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Vintage Firearms is my NPC's "Money" Johnson's hat. So far, he's shown his 165-year old (In 2070) Holland & Holland Royal Deluxe Double Rifle in .600 Nitro Express. He also has bolt-action rifles from every major side from WWI and WWII, and uses a Holland & Holland-made SMLE No. 4 or a sniper-grade Kar 98K for his "Hunting Rifles" in Seattle with him. All legally owned. (Only the Royal Deluxe Double Rifle has been seen, however.). His Grandfather swears by IMI-built weapons, and has every type of Uzi ever made, but typically relies on a Uzi-III in 9mm Caseless, but also packs a Centennial-edition Colt M1911A1 in .45ACCP made in 2011.
Money's good chummer, Murphy, has a vintage Ares Predator Mk. I, stock save for replacement parts, that he uses as his standard sidearm, swapping out the barrels whenever he needs to give it a new ballistic profile. It's been in his family for three generations of Shadowrunners (He's an ork), and has probably seen more action than some entire Shadow teams.
Although I've never gotten around to mentioning them much, Nas' family has a bunch of vintage firearms as well, with his brother favoring a M-14 rifle set to fire semi-automatically only for big trouble, but mostly carries a classic Ruger Redhawk revolver in .44 Magnum with custom vat-grown walnut grips, and a Henry Big Boy Lever-Action Rifle in .44 Magnum with equally custom furniture. His family owns a farm (One of the few still in non-corporate hands) and is right on the Texas/Aztlan Border. Nas spent most of his time driving, while his brother spent his time shooting, so he's a crack shot.
Yes, I think entirely too much about the backstory and history of all my characters.
Funny thing is the PCs in my game normaly hand me three pages of background Info so don't cut yourself short. Remember most people will have about 2-3 things they obsess about weather they dislike it or love it and everyone has something they are ashamed as well as something they do that others think is odd.As a writer (Even if a hack of one, links to some of my work are in Fan Fiction if anyone cares), I know that a character is built up of his experiences, not just one event as far too many characters seem to be moved by. His family, friends, enemies, all events of their life, and so on. It characterizes how they do things and why. And characters should be living, breathing beings that change and adapt by what happens, and not just in the number of scars they get, either.
-just a friendly thought
Think the AK-97 counts as vintage gear by now?Considering that the "97" in the name probably means 1997, I'd say "Yeah!!!"
I like me some revolvers with cased ammo, ah nostalgia!Revolvers can use caseless ammo?
I still like the idea of Smith and Wesson's early 'Volcanic' pistols. Awesome name, cool concept; caseless ammunition from 1850! And the bullets were called Rocket Ball. What's not to like?How pathetic the power of the round was? The unreliability of the firearm? It was a cool concept, but the Henry Rifles and Winchester Rifles that came after it took the technology where it needed to go.