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Title: UDI 2073 Catalog
Post by: John Schmidt on <09-04-10/0013:05>
United Defense Industries
2073 Catalog

UDI Copperhead Assault Cannon
The Copperhead features the ground breaking NNRS (Newton Neutralizer Recoil System) dramatically reducing the weapons recoil. Unlike lighter assault cannons, the Copperhead is designed to be utilized from either an entrenched position or mounted on a LAV. It can be operated on site (internal smartgun system comes standard) or remotely, wired or wireless. For remote operation please contact a sales representative to ask about our new Smart Loader Drone.


Standard features include…

Self lubricating sealed bearing sleeves for smooth traverse and protection from environmental contamination.

Standby mode, to conserve battery power.

Selective fire, from that single well placed round to three-shot burst fire.

90-round drum magazine, keep the pressure up on your opposition by not having to reload as often. The sealed drum reduces the probability of jams and ensures that the lubricant for the caseless rounds doesn’t dry out.

Flexible mounting system, tripod or pintle mount.

Copperhead Assault Cannon
Damage: 9P
AP: -5
Mode: SA/BF
RC: (4)
Ammo: 90(d)
Availability: 22F
Cost: 55,000¥
Loaded Weight: 196.4 kg

This image shows the remote configuration.
(http://i753.photobucket.com/albums/xx176/MacAttack001/Shadowrun/CH009.jpg)
Here you can see the manual configuration.
(http://i753.photobucket.com/albums/xx176/MacAttack001/Shadowrun/CH008.jpg)
Both images show our standard 20mm Penetrator (cased) round atop the ammo drum for reference purposes only.
Title: Re: UDI 2073 Catalog
Post by: Caine Hazen on <09-04-10/0112:28>
I do not want to be the schlub carrying around a drum of 90 rounds of 20-25mm ammo... damn that'd be heavy!

And BF... yeah, vehicle mounted maybe!
Title: Re: UDI 2073 Catalog
Post by: FastJack on <09-04-10/0116:47>
I do not want to be the schlub carrying around a drum of 90 rounds of 20-25mm ammo... damn that'd be heavy!

And BF... yeah, vehicle mounted maybe!
That's what the Big Troll is for. (Drek, he's probably the only one that can fire the damn thing without dislocating a shoulder anyway...)
Title: Re: UDI 2073 Catalog
Post by: John Schmidt on <09-04-10/0208:59>
Not meant to be man-portable (194kg is around 426 lbs.). Tripod mount...fixed position or a LAV...think armored personnel carrier. I take it the pic didn't make it through?
Title: Re: UDI 2073 Catalog
Post by: Medicineman on <09-04-10/0239:11>
Pictures ?
where are the Pictures ?
You all know that 1 Picture is worth more'n a 1000 Words ? !

Hough!
Medicineman
Title: Re: UDI 2073 Catalog
Post by: FastJack on <09-04-10/0313:44>
John Schmidt on his last hunting trip. Something about 'Wyrms'?

(http://www.stampede-entertainment.com/wrmkllr/gun-l.jpg)
Title: Re: UDI 2073 Catalog
Post by: Bull on <09-04-10/0909:29>
http://www.renderosity.com/mod/gallery/index.php?image_id=2105106

I'm guessing that Renderosity doesn't allow hotlinking (A lot of sites don't).  I'd suggest setting up a Photobucket account, they're pretty decent, so long as you're not trying to use it to post porn :)

Bull
Title: Re: UDI 2073 Catalog
Post by: John Schmidt on <09-04-10/1030:15>
I think the confusion should be alleviated now.

These are not weapons that Shadowrunners would use...these are weapons used on Shadowrunners.  ;D
Title: Re: UDI 2073 Catalog
Post by: John Schmidt on <09-04-10/1412:05>
Wasn't happy with my pics so I made some modifications, enjoy. Critical analysis is always welcome.

BTW...Fastjack...love the 'Tremors' movies!
Title: Re: UDI 2073 Catalog
Post by: Caine Hazen on <09-04-10/1413:51>
Well now, that's much better to see!  I do like that system!  The tripod looks a little light, but yeah, I can see that as an emplacment gun for some heavy security or military use.  Might see if I cna get one to mount on my rigger's next ride :D
Title: Re: UDI 2073 Catalog
Post by: John Schmidt on <09-04-10/1419:10>
I can beef up the tripod, would take just a few minutes. I went through and increased the size of the ammo drum.
Title: Re: UDI 2073 Catalog
Post by: Caine Hazen on <09-04-10/1425:17>
OH!  You do 3d art then!  Awesome, we gotta talk some more!  (and I need to get back into it more....)

Might ask you to send me up some files!
Title: Re: UDI 2073 Catalog
Post by: John Schmidt on <09-04-10/1432:37>
Yeah, I love 3d art! I just switched over to Carrara 8 Pro. Between it and CS5 I am having a BLAST!

Better...?

(http://i753.photobucket.com/albums/xx176/MacAttack001/Shadowrun/CH008.jpg)
Title: Re: UDI 2073 Catalog
Post by: John Schmidt on <09-04-10/1449:55>
Beefier tripod legs...check and done.

So what about the weapon stats? Anyone think that they are over the top...underpowered?
Title: Re: UDI 2073 Catalog
Post by: FastJack on <09-04-10/1504:24>
Looks good to me!

(Of course, we'll have to wait for the gilletes to chime in...)
Title: Re: UDI 2073 Catalog
Post by: Caine Hazen on <09-04-10/1539:32>
No, they seem about on for an Autocannon's damage potential.  I like how you kept it down to burstfire vs a full auto, works better on a crew service weapon like this.

hmmm... I really need to get all my installs done here... I forget what version of carrara I have.  Been playing with hexagon as well. 
Title: Re: UDI 2073 Catalog
Post by: John Schmidt on <09-04-10/1558:07>
The new lighting options in Carrara 8 are very potent. Skylight and indirect lighting can give you some great soft shadows without having to resort to postwork. I think what makes Carrara a standout is that your work flow is vastly streamlinged. Maya gets a lot of attention for its eco system but Carrara can go toe to toe with it using Replicate.

The hair system in Carrara absolutely rocks! I don't think I will ever go back to polygon hair.

I will say that if you get too enthusiastic in the render settings that even a good system (i7 980 6-core, 12GB 1333Mhz ram, ATI FirePro v8800 2GB video card) will bog down! Right now I am researching setting a 20-40 node render farm to let me really go nuts!!!  ;D

IMO...an assault cannon with burst fire and a 90-rnd drum is PLENTY of firepower. When I was thinking about this cannon the 30mm ASP cannon was firmly in mind. The lightest vehicle that I have seen one mounted on was a Landrover...which looked absolutely sick!
Title: Re: UDI 2073 Catalog
Post by: Caine Hazen on <09-04-10/1600:34>
hehe, let me know... I've contimplated building a render farm for myself ;)  I have the rack all built up and stuff!

Carrara 7 was the last I got... might have to upgrade!
Title: Re: UDI 2073 Catalog
Post by: John Schmidt on <09-06-10/1810:50>
I watch computer sales on Ebay...every so often you will see a batch of computers go up for sale from a government agency or business.  It would be nice to get a 50 or 60 of the same model, spare parts.  ;D

Wow...I realized just how badly I have derailed my own thread. LOL
Title: Re: UDI 2073 Catalog
Post by: Casazil on <09-06-10/1848:00>
Looks cool stats are good maybe a higher availability though at 20 a runner with restricted gear can have this at character creation.

Something like this should only be had in game with work.
Title: Re: UDI 2073 Catalog
Post by: John Schmidt on <09-06-10/2102:58>
I can see your point...what would you suggest as appropriate for the availability?
Title: Re: UDI 2073 Catalog
Post by: Mooncrow on <09-06-10/2111:35>
Availability is pretty hard to pin down, for vehicle weapons, it can range from 15-30, even for guns with similar stats.  For this, no higher than 22F, I would think. 
Title: Re: UDI 2073 Catalog
Post by: FastJack on <09-06-10/2119:07>
That sounds about right since the Panther's a 20F.
Title: Re: UDI 2073 Catalog
Post by: John Schmidt on <09-06-10/2141:00>
Done!  ;D
Title: Re: UDI 2073 Catalog
Post by: John Schmidt on <09-06-10/2216:44>
So, the reason for the post initially is that I am using it as a teaser for a catalog that I want to put together to throw out on a SR website that I am working on.

Do people prefer such content as html or PDF?
Title: Re: UDI 2073 Catalog
Post by: Caine Hazen on <09-06-10/2217:47>
yes!

Oh wait, that was multiple choice
Title: Re: UDI 2073 Catalog
Post by: John Schmidt on <09-06-10/2223:46>
You would like it in both formats?

HTLM to see if it is worth downloading and then PDF for actual use?
Title: Re: UDI 2073 Catalog
Post by: Caine Hazen on <09-06-10/2228:04>
Well HTML might be given for a nice interactive cataloge, and the PDF so that my lame assed players who won't go look at that shit themselves would be printed out for them :D

Then again, 1 or the other is just fine!
Title: Re: UDI 2073 Catalog
Post by: John Schmidt on <09-06-10/2231:22>
Putting up the HTML and the PDF shouldn't be a big hassle. LOL
Title: Re: UDI 2073 Catalog
Post by: John Schmidt on <09-07-10/0035:44>
The great thing about PDF's is that you aren't constrained by print publishing page counts. However, I have heard from a couple of people that at a certain point the size of the PDF becomes unwieldy. Anythoughts on that? Mainly talking about size in terms of Mb not page count.  ;D
Title: Re: UDI 2073 Catalog
Post by: Casazil on <09-07-10/0515:29>
I can see your point...what would you suggest as appropriate for the availability?

21 works it puts beyond what one can get a starting creation.
Title: Re: UDI 2073 Catalog
Post by: Casazil on <09-07-10/0517:16>
So, the reason for the post initially is that I am using it as a teaser for a catalog that I want to put together to throw out on a SR website that I am working on.

Do people prefer such content as html or PDF?

Either works for me
Title: Re: UDI 2073 Catalog
Post by: FastJack on <09-07-10/0847:20>
Well, graphics certainly add to the Mb of the file. But I've yet to see a truly 'unwieldy' PDF. Even the Pathfinder RPG Core rulebook, at over 550 pages and lots of graphics, which comes in at almost 80 Mb is still usable enough for me that I'll have it up on the laptop while running/playing. It does slow down a little when transitioning pages, but not enough to call it a problem.
Title: Re: UDI 2073 Catalog
Post by: John Schmidt on <09-07-10/1558:22>
I personally haven't had problems with large PDFs, the Pathfinder rulebook is a great example of a big one. Just thought that I should put it out there after reading some complaints.
Title: Re: UDI 2073 Catalog
Post by: Doc Chaos on <09-07-10/1603:33>
I like PDFs, but nothing beats books at the table. You can't replace the look on the players faces when you open a book, look for something, find it, put on a big SMILE and put the book down again. Try doing that with a PDF  ;D
Title: Re: UDI 2073 Catalog
Post by: FastJack on <09-07-10/1604:57>
I like PDFs, but nothing beats books at the table. You can't replace the look on the players faces when you open a book, look for something, find it, put on a big SMILE and put the book down again. Try doing that with a PDF  ;D
Ah, but see with my laptop full of PDFs, when I grin they have no idea if I was looking up a rule, a new spell or that vicious critter... :D
Title: Re: UDI 2073 Catalog
Post by: John Schmidt on <09-07-10/1607:23>
I love printed books too.

However, nothing beats carrying around your entire SR library on a laptop at a convention!  ;D

Doing a search through your entire SR PDF files is also insanely faster!

Title: Re: UDI 2073 Catalog
Post by: Doc Chaos on <09-07-10/1608:01>
Interesting approach, FastJack. I might try that, I got the laptop on the table for character sheet references, cheat sheets and music anyway.
Title: Re: UDI 2073 Catalog
Post by: FastJack on <09-07-10/1610:18>
Hee-hee... Did I mention Hero Labs has a great functionality that you can put the entire group into a single portfolio, add in some critters/NPCs and track initiative and stuff all at once?

And that they're working on releasing the Shadowrun toolkit? (http://forums.shadowrun4.com/index.php?topic=31.0)
Title: Re: UDI 2073 Catalog
Post by: John Schmidt on <09-07-10/1614:23>
Since the UDI catalog is going to be a fan produced product I can afford to do it as a PDF!

It does beg the question though, color graphis w/ intricate borders or spartan b&w?

Hero Labs is a great product and I can't wait for the SR module to be made available!
Title: Re: UDI 2073 Catalog
Post by: Doc Chaos on <09-07-10/1616:35>
I always liked b&w illustrations more than colored stuff. Just my 2 nuyen though...
Title: Re: UDI 2073 Catalog
Post by: John Schmidt on <09-07-10/1619:32>
Would you be printing it out Doc so you are thinking about your color ink cartridge being sucked dry?

B&W isn't hard to do, simply take the images into photoshop and convert them.  ;D
Title: Re: UDI 2073 Catalog
Post by: Casazil on <09-07-10/2006:53>
I like PDFs, but nothing beats books at the table. You can't replace the look on the players faces when you open a book, look for something, find it, put on a big SMILE and put the book down again. Try doing that with a PDF  ;D
Ah, but see with my laptop full of PDFs, when I grin they have no idea if I was looking up a rule, a new spell or that vicious critter... :D

Yeah you can have more mystery with a laptop and all the PDFs on it
Title: Re: UDI 2073 Catalog
Post by: Casazil on <09-07-10/2008:28>
I love printed books too.

However, nothing beats carrying around your entire SR library on a laptop at a convention!  ;D

Doing a search through your entire SR PDF files is also insanely faster!

I need to get a laptop one of these days make going to Megacon easier that rolling duffel bag i use is nice holds everything sure but man lugging it around .....
Title: Re: UDI 2073 Catalog
Post by: Casazil on <09-07-10/2009:18>
Since the UDI catalog is going to be a fan produced product I can afford to do it as a PDF!

It does beg the question though, color graphis w/ intricate borders or spartan b&w?

Hero Labs is a great product and I can't wait for the SR module to be made available!

COLOR!!! I love Color
Title: Re: UDI 2073 Catalog
Post by: John Schmidt on <09-07-10/2252:58>
A vote for B&W and color...what to do?  ;D

Casazil, I picked up a Zuca a few years back at GenCon and while they aren't cheap I absolutely love mine. Being able to have something to sit on can be such a relief at cons, it can hold a pretty good amount too.

www.zuca.com

Hehehehe...gonna order the seat cushion for mine right now!

Edit: And yes...mine has the flashing wheels. No...they are not lame.  :P
Title: Re: UDI 2073 Catalog
Post by: FastJack on <09-07-10/2301:43>
I'll put a vote down for Black & White. When it comes to hardware, I like the old school style.
Title: Re: UDI 2073 Catalog
Post by: John Schmidt on <09-07-10/2305:35>
I am not promising anything...but I might be willing to do a color and a B&W version.

If I got nuts (like the Pathfinder supplement I am producing at page 154 and just barely half-way through) there will only be one version though.  :o
Title: Re: UDI 2073 Catalog
Post by: FastJack on <09-07-10/2309:02>
I am not promising anything...but I might be willing to do a color and a B&W version.

If I got nuts (like the Pathfinder supplement I am producing at page 154 and just barely half-way through) there will only be one version though.  :o
Reeeeeaaaally? Let me know when you got more info on the PF supplement. I'd be interested in that as well.
Title: Re: UDI 2073 Catalog
Post by: John Schmidt on <09-07-10/2314:58>
That one I will be putting up on RPGnow for sale, aimed at GM's. But once it is up I can shoot you an email though.  ;D
Title: Re: UDI 2073 Catalog
Post by: FastJack on <09-07-10/2316:52>
Sweet! Thanks John!
Title: Re: UDI 2073 Catalog
Post by: Casazil on <09-07-10/2347:59>
A vote for B&W and color...what to do?  ;D

Casazil, I picked up a Zuca a few years back at GenCon and while they aren't cheap I absolutely love mine. Being able to have something to sit on can be such a relief at cons, it can hold a pretty good amount too.

www.zuca.com

Hehehehe...gonna order the seat cushion for mine right now!

Edit: And yes...mine has the flashing wheels. No...they are not lame.  :P

I have what Megacon Joe (He's in charge of the games don't ya know!) has refered to as my throne.

A large black fake leather office desk chair with a raised back and lower lumbar support and a sorta head rest.

They even took pics of me in it as did several people who passed through looking to see what was going on.
Title: Re: UDI 2073 Catalog
Post by: Doc Chaos on <09-08-10/0102:57>
Would you be printing it out Doc so you are thinking about your color ink cartridge being sucked dry?

B&W isn't hard to do, simply take the images into photoshop and convert them.  ;D

I never print PDFs when there's a book version. I simply prefer b&w illustration of items in equipment descriptions, thats it :)
Title: Re: UDI 2073 Catalog
Post by: John Schmidt on <09-08-10/0603:48>
A vote for B&W and color...what to do?  ;D

Casazil, I picked up a Zuca a few years back at GenCon and while they aren't cheap I absolutely love mine. Being able to have something to sit on can be such a relief at cons, it can hold a pretty good amount too.

www.zuca.com

Hehehehe...gonna order the seat cushion for mine right now!

Edit: And yes...mine has the flashing wheels. No...they are not lame.  :P

I have what Megacon Joe (He's in charge of the games don't ya know!) has refered to as my throne.

A large black fake leather office desk chair with a raised back and lower lumbar support and a sorta head rest.

They even took pics of me in it as did several people who passed through looking to see what was going on.

I will have to concede that the aforementioned chair (aka Throne) is certainly going to be more comfortable but I wouldn't want to be pushing that around at GenCon. The dealer's room is hard enough to get through as it is!  ;D
Title: Re: UDI 2073 Catalog
Post by: Casazil on <09-08-10/1810:01>
Megacon I just leave it in the room with the books I now know so many people that one of them will stay in the room an watch it while I take a stroll in the dealers room.

Besides MOST of the reg staff knows there is only one person rolling a chair like mine around so they see someone else with it they'd stop them.
Title: Re: UDI 2073 Catalog
Post by: John Schmidt on <09-08-10/2254:49>
You realize that you just may have instigated a game of "hide the Throne!"  :D
Title: Re: UDI 2073 Catalog
Post by: Casazil on <09-09-10/0200:54>
Not really I'm in it most of the time as I'm the only GM I am sitting there running or explaining the game to people all day everyday from about 8:30 am till close to Midnight.
Title: Re: UDI 2073 Catalog
Post by: John Schmidt on <09-11-10/0440:55>
United Defense Industries
2073 Catalog

UDI Tier 3 Security Door
The first line of defense is to keep intruders from intruding and the T-3 Security Door is a designed to do just that. Composite armor plating forms the outer shell, with a laminate honeycomb structure sandwiched inside. This affords greater strength to the overall door from physical attacks. Areogel insulation has been injected within that honeycomb providing superb thermal resistance. In the engineering picture below the black arrows depict the locking rods (exaggerated extrusion for informational purposes) that are housed within the door but extended into the door frame to properly secure the entry point.
(http://i753.photobucket.com/albums/xx176/MacAttack001/Shadowrun/SecurityDoor01.jpg)

Constructed from stainless steel, these 30mm diameter locking rods are corrosion resistant and precision 1mm tolerances into the receiver sleeve milled into the door frame. Since these locking rods are concealed inside of the door it makes them extremely difficult to defeat. Operation of the locking rods can be done remotely via your security system and feature an emergency release on the interior side.

Tier 3 Security Door
Armor Rating: 24
Structural Rating: 14
Availability: 21F
Cost: 9,000¥

Be sure to talk with one of our sales representatives about the variety of finishes that can be applied, custom sizes, and alarms to fit your facility needs.
Title: Re: UDI 2073 Catalog
Post by: FastJack on <09-11-10/1100:01>
>>>>>[I've seen some corps fill the honeycomb with FAB II astral bacteria while the surrounding walls are covered with Awakened Ivy to prevent astral spying.]<<<<<
      -- KageZero (09:51:51/09-11-72)
Title: Re: UDI 2073 Catalog
Post by: John Schmidt on <09-11-10/1125:02>
That certainly should be an option.

I take it that you do not find the stats objectionable though?
Title: Re: UDI 2073 Catalog
Post by: FastJack on <09-11-10/1140:03>
I might bring the Armor down to 20, since reinforced concrete is 24. But other than that, it looks good!
Title: Re: UDI 2073 Catalog
Post by: John Schmidt on <09-11-10/1218:22>
This is one of those instance where I don't agree with the game. From my experience and research I would say that it is possible for armor to out perform reinforced concrete in terms of ballistic protection. Of course, we don't know how thick the reinforced concrete is to be able to achieve that 20 Armor Rating.
Title: Re: UDI 2073 Catalog
Post by: FastJack on <09-11-10/1247:33>
You're right, SR4a only lists the thickness in the structure rating (1m square, 10 cm thick). Although, reinforced concrete means it strengthened with rebars/plates/wire. I'd still lower the armor, though since a normal security door is only at an 8 and they're usually steel doors.

(Interesting side-note: My brother-in-law, the cop, got called out to a crime scene last night where they had to break through a steel door. His buddy bet him five bucks he couldn't kick it in. He took the bet and kicked in the door. Snapped the deadbolt lock in half, no damage to the door or door frame.)
Title: Re: UDI 2073 Catalog
Post by: John Schmidt on <09-11-10/1816:24>
That bet could have ended very badly for your brother-in-law, just one mortise lock...ouch. To be young and lucky once more.  ;D
Title: Re: UDI 2073 Catalog
Post by: Mystic on <09-12-10/0653:31>
That bet could have ended very badly for your brother-in-law, just one mortise lock...ouch. To be young and lucky once more.  ;D

I agree, kicking in doors can lead to nasty consiquences. I prefer breeching rounds in an Remington 870, myself.

 8)
Title: Re: UDI 2073 Catalog
Post by: John Schmidt on <09-12-10/0717:01>
I would add, that there are just weird occurances where the metal is fatigued or flawed.

What sets this door apart is that it has composite armor plating, reinforced with a laminate honeycomb in the middle, followed by a second layer of composite armor plating. 10cm or 3.9 inches of reinforced concrete is not thin by any stretch of the imagination, when I think of concrete bunkers though we are talking feet thick (reinforced). The difference between structural materials is pretty vast. At one end of the spectrum you have cinder block, makes for a good structurally sound building, but I have seen video of an Uzi on full auto (standard ball ammo) just devastate it. Standard residential construction, 2x6 wood frame, vinyl siding, vapor wrap, 3/4" sheating, insulation, and drywall, excellent structurally for its purpose but I wouldn't consider it cover...good concealment though.

Current material engineering leads me to believe that there are some very promising lightweight materials out there that have excellent potential as armor. So I am extrapolating, but I don't think that I am out of the realm of possibility in thinking that two sheets of 15mm thick composite armor using carbon nanotubes and other materials would be pretty darn tough. There again though, I would like to think that I am open minded.  ;D

Sound off people, 24 AR or lower?

Edit: I would certainly be willing to concede that a cutting charge (think RO Blade) would probably have little problem with this door though.
Title: Re: UDI 2073 Catalog
Post by: FastJack on <09-12-10/1157:58>
Well, my argument for the lower armor is that, yes, you have the carbon nanotubes and composite armor and all that, BUT, that's not as hard to come by in 2072 as it it in 2010. I guess my main point is, in 2072, you have corporations that have been through a number of corp wars, millions of shadowruns and all the other stuff that the sixth world presents. So, I doubt a security door in 2072 is the same as a security door you'd find in our time.
Title: Re: UDI 2073 Catalog
Post by: John Schmidt on <09-13-10/0559:03>
Are you alluding to that while material may improve so do the counter measures, because that is a good point.

Lets say I meet you halfway...and give it a AR of 24?
Title: Re: UDI 2073 Catalog
Post by: FastJack on <09-13-10/0924:36>
I can agree on 24. ;D
Title: Re: UDI 2073 Catalog
Post by: The_Gun_Nut on <09-14-10/1715:31>
Shock Lock shotgun rounds rip that down to 12.

I am in love with Shock Lock ammo (if you hadn't noticed).
Title: Re: UDI 2073 Catalog
Post by: John Schmidt on <09-14-10/1726:05>
Completely understandable, the right tool for the job.  ;D

My intent is to make it difficult but not impossible, challenge the players but keep it possible.
Title: Re: UDI 2073 Catalog
Post by: Doc Chaos on <09-15-10/0056:34>
My intent is to make it difficult but not impossible, challenge the players but keep it possible.

Which sadly some people forget should be the main idea behind the difficulty level of 'runs...
Title: Re: UDI 2073 Catalog
Post by: The_Gun_Nut on <09-15-10/0550:30>
I have no problem with overly difficult runs.  The basic objective might not be to succeed in the mission, but something else.  Handing players easy victories all the time takes away from the idea that the Shadows are a dangerous place.

Fortunately, my players are wise enough to see when things are getting too hot.  They then either find a loophole to exploit in order to get paid anyway or just back off and consider living to see another day their payment.
Title: Re: UDI 2073 Catalog
Post by: John Schmidt on <09-15-10/0612:38>
Sounds like you have a talented group of players.  ;D
Title: Re: UDI 2073 Catalog
Post by: Raventrickster on <10-11-10/2219:31>
I'd like to sound off for colour, but it sounds like the black and white crowd has it at the moment.  That said I look forward to this, always nice to see more interesting gear come to the table.
Title: Re: UDI 2073 Catalog
Post by: TheBigD on <10-13-10/2332:24>
So, the reason for the post initially is that I am using it as a teaser for a catalog that I want to put together to throw out on a SR website that I am working on.

Do people prefer such content as html or PDF?

PDF, yes please!

And if it's in color, awesome, if not, still awesome. :)
Title: Re: UDI 2073 Catalog
Post by: Sichr on <10-14-10/1055:19>
In fact, I didn see why this kind of weapon may not be made with standard Arsenal mods. There is nothing said about that large modification for burst fire/full auto mode cannot be done to standard assault cannon. In fact, there is more to it: combo with rapid fire gives you 5 rnds bursts. well, Recoil is the bad thing, but with gyro stabilization + some other mods, average orc may be able to fire one burst per complex action

In fact. We had used this rules when players get the real top-hit once and had been granted anything the are able to pay for (meant: weapons)

One of them want a simple weapon: Ares Predator IV. With all modifications he wanted, the price goes to 256000Y (350Y original :) well, he hadnt been able to pay for it  ;D
Title: Re: UDI 2073 Catalog
Post by: John Schmidt on <10-16-10/0656:35>
My inclination is two PDF versions, one color and one B&W.

I will stipulate that the B&W version will actually be formated for print...white background with the illos being far lighter than would be pleasing to the eye for screen viewing, otherwise they print too dark. The color pics are going to be lit for screen viewing which means that they are going to be too dark for printing. That saves me time in photoshop editing and color ink for printing to see if I am in the ball park for each illo.

HTML content for the catalog will be reserved for a couple of entries that I really like as teasers with a table of contents.

Currently...I am swamped though so I haven't even looked at it in the last four weeks. This vexes me...as I would really like to get my SR website up and running.
Title: Re: UDI 2073 Catalog
Post by: freddieflatline on <10-17-10/2043:20>
I do not want to be the schlub carrying around a drum of 90 rounds of 20-25mm ammo... damn that'd be heavy!

And BF... yeah, vehicle mounted maybe!
That's what the Big Troll is for. (Drek, he's probably the only one that can fire the damn thing without dislocating a shoulder anyway...)

That would have to be one huge frakking Troll.......
Title: Re: UDI 2073 Catalog
Post by: John Schmidt on <11-12-10/0558:33>
One of my favorite articles out of TSS was Patrick Goodman's "How much diid you say he weighed?". That can be found in issue #9, which also contains the ever so awesome 'Random Atmosphere Generator' by Steven A. Tinner.

As for the weight of the 90 round drum of 20mm ammo, it would weigh about 22.5 lbs. (1/4 lbs. per round) say another 5 pounds for the drum itself? So...28 lbs. rounding up. One of the things about future warfare, I think we are going to see squads being issued some sort of mule drones to reduce the combat loads that soldiers are required to hump around with. Combat packs are insanely heavy add to that body armor and it is a wonder that you don't have soldier's simply dropping dead from heat exhaustion...let alone being able to fight!

As I stated previously, I have seen a 20mm ASP cannon mounted on a Land Rover (and it was firing in full auto but stationary) so vehicle mounted and burst fire is completely within the realm of possibility 60+ years into the future (IMHO).  ;D