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Mooods

[dezmont]

Stuff like this is a prime example of why 6e's choice to ditch agents was 100% the right one.

[Leith]

Plus, whoever wrote that thing clearly has no idea how Shadowrun magic items work.

Deep within the bowels of Auschwitz II during WWII, Dr. Eduard Wirths conducted and supervised thousands of odd experiments on the human body. He tested mustard gas on innocents. He mutilated twins. He held people in tanks of ice water for hours or until dead. He exposed prisoners to malaria. He forced them to drink seawater. One particular implement from his experiments, a rusted old scalpel, was left in the labs. Over many years, it was energized by the various ghosts passing by it, feeding off their death energies. At this point, it’s taken on a life of its own. The rusty old scalpel craves death. It only finds itself at home when flush with warm blood. Although this makes it a remarkably effective weapon, anyone holding it is subject to the sounds of its past victims. As a function of this, when the weapon is in hand, the character is considered distracted and suffers a –4 dice pool modifier to all Perception Tests. If she attempts to Observe in Detail as a Simple Action, she only suffers a –2 dice pool modifier.

Reach: 0, Damage: (Str/2+4)P, AP: –2, Availability: N/A (unique item), Market Value: 10,000¥

This is a D20 modern cursed magic item, not anything that works in Shadowrun.  Weapon foci are a thing, and do what the author was groping towards, but do not in any way  work like this.

As to the dungeon crawl, how else does one interpret this?

For your average runner, Auschwitz II is suicide. Only the most enterprising groups will survive the trip. But such a trip can result in great rewards (see The Fleshfinder, below).

The section also goes out of its way to place an arms dealer peddling 'anti-ghost weaponry' in the area, with no details anywhere of what that would consist of, and the intended targets being the haunted spirits of those murdered in the camps.

The whole thing is disgusting.

Disgusting makes no sense. It's shadowrun. the whole setting is based on the premise that humans do terrible things. is the problem because it happens in real life? because we have human trafficking, terrorism. there is nothing wrong that paragraph or the adventure idea.

You don't see anything wrong with expecting PCs to go destroy the ghosts of holocaust victims to get fat loots? At best it is in very poor taste, at worst it's anti-semitic propaganda. You could possibly make idea tasteful by using the ghosts to create a moral dilemma but if you're selling a book maybe jusy steer clear of re-killing victims of a major humanitarian atrocity.

[Reaver]

Plus, whoever wrote that thing clearly has no idea how Shadowrun magic items work.

Deep within the bowels of Auschwitz II during WWII, Dr. Eduard Wirths conducted and supervised thousands of odd experiments on the human body. He tested mustard gas on innocents. He mutilated twins. He held people in tanks of ice water for hours or until dead. He exposed prisoners to malaria. He forced them to drink seawater. One particular implement from his experiments, a rusted old scalpel, was left in the labs. Over many years, it was energized by the various ghosts passing by it, feeding off their death energies. At this point, it’s taken on a life of its own. The rusty old scalpel craves death. It only finds itself at home when flush with warm blood. Although this makes it a remarkably effective weapon, anyone holding it is subject to the sounds of its past victims. As a function of this, when the weapon is in hand, the character is considered distracted and suffers a –4 dice pool modifier to all Perception Tests. If she attempts to Observe in Detail as a Simple Action, she only suffers a –2 dice pool modifier.

Reach: 0, Damage: (Str/2+4)P, AP: –2, Availability: N/A (unique item), Market Value: 10,000¥

This is a D20 modern cursed magic item, not anything that works in Shadowrun.  Weapon foci are a thing, and do what the author was groping towards, but do not in any way  work like this.

As to the dungeon crawl, how else does one interpret this?

For your average runner, Auschwitz II is suicide. Only the most enterprising groups will survive the trip. But such a trip can result in great rewards (see The Fleshfinder, below).

The section also goes out of its way to place an arms dealer peddling 'anti-ghost weaponry' in the area, with no details anywhere of what that would consist of, and the intended targets being the haunted spirits of those murdered in the camps.

The whole thing is disgusting.

Disgusting makes no sense. It's shadowrun. the whole setting is based on the premise that humans do terrible things. is the problem because it happens in real life? because we have human trafficking, terrorism. there is nothing wrong that paragraph or the adventure idea.

You don't see anything wrong with expecting PCs to go destroy the ghosts of holocaust victims to get fat loots? At best it is in very poor taste, at worst it's anti-semitic propaganda. You could possibly make idea tasteful by using the ghosts to create a moral dilemma but if you're selling a book maybe jusy steer clear of re-killing victims of a major humanitarian atrocity.

Here's sone perspective for you Leith,

There is an ENTIRE country that flies pictures of Adolf Hitler on a special day.....


No, they are not in Europe, and be my guest in telling all 1.1 billion of them that Hilter was a very bad man.... they don't care.


Like it or not, the internet is a GLOBAL community. And mathimatically, not even 1% share your views or values..... What you find 'disgusting' other people go "Meh".

[Michael Chandra]

How about we stop turning a single paragraph from a decade-old book into a flamewar just because the SR6-hate bandwagon is starting to get boring, and get back to the SR6-hate bandwagon? Just pimp it if you want to spice it up.

Here, let me fuel it: CGL should try to do more-frequent generic news updates that aren't just Facebook posts, keeping people at least a tiny bit in the loop, perhaps just every month. As simple as teasing a booktitle and posting some update on errata process, please.

[ZeroSum]

CGL should try to do more-frequent generic news updates that aren't just Facebook posts, keeping people at least a tiny bit in the loop, perhaps just every month. As simple as teasing a booktitle and posting some update on errata process, please.

Can I get a drek-yeah!?

Fully support this...