Shadowrun
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Update (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1613260297/shadowrun-returns/posts/1085740) posted today on their first KS:
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YAY!!! ;D ;D ;D
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Awesome! I loved dragonfall and deadmans switch. Of they are kick starting more of the same then they can have all of my money. In fact I think ill start throwing it at the screen now just to be sure
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Great news! Thanks for sharing this.
I will happily back this project. I hope they will offer great stories and characters as in Dragonfall (the run in DMS was pretty interesting too). And crossing my fingers for another anthology too!
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Well, that is interesting : http://harebrained-schemes.com/about/job-openings/
Judging by the jobs descriptions, I would make the wild guess that the game is already being made and that it will use the Dragonfall DC engine. More good news.
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Oh boy. Sounds like I'd better become active at SRU again and help the other mods out against people raging in a month.
Rage? Why? Hell if I know but I just know we're going to have quite a bunch.
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Rage? As in angry? Wonder how people would be angry at great news.
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I bet you ten nuyen that there will be at least half a dozen people complaining about broken kickstarter promises in response to a new kickstarter, and I really wish I felt as if I was exaggerating there.
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There are a lot of people that still don't understand that their are two games and two companies, HBS and Cliffhanger active right now. I love the work of HBS and will give Jordan money for anything he throws at us. He has never steered me wrong.
Cliffhanger on the other hand... :(
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I bet you ten nuyen that there will be at least half a dozen people complaining about broken kickstarter promises in response to a new kickstarter, and I really wish I felt as if I was exaggerating there.
Naah, I won't take the bet, I know the Internet and the types of people who inhabit it. ;) I wasn't around the first Kickstarter project (bought the game when it hits GOG), but I sure hope it will go smoothly for you and your fellow mods on the other forum!
There are a lot of people that still don't understand that their are two games and two companies, HBS and Cliffhanger active right now. I love the work of HBS and will give Jordan money for anything he throws at us. He has never steered me wrong.
Cliffhanger on the other hand... :(
Yeah, Shadowrun Online is gathering a lot of bad reviews on Steam (even for an alpha access). I do not care much for MMO (I like to play a game alone, I have enough humans to deal with at my job sigh), but hopefully it will get better.
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I am going to throw money at Harebrained Schemes untl we break the internet.
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Woohoo! Can't wait~
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An update posted on the original KS:
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Here's a piece of look & feel concept art for our new setting. We'll show how it translates into Shadowrun's isometric gameplay view when our Kickstarter launches in January!
;D ;D ;D
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Hong Kong? I would like Chicago but Hong Kong will do nicely.
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Man, Chicago would be cool. I'll take Chicago, though; Harbrained Schemes have my money for sure.
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Chicago as a stretch goal?
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Quite looking forward to this KS...HBS really hit it out of the park with their last one...super curious to see what they're doing this time around.
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Chicago as a stretch goal?
Chicago did very well in the first KS stretch goal vote. If I remember it was Berlin, HK, then Chi-town. If this is another city and they offer stretch goals then I would love to see HK, Chicago, and then either Boston, LA, or NYC as options.
Amy chance of Jordan could join CGL to add some content to an upcoming book? I would love to see his hands back on the actual RPG he started.
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I'd be willing to bet my britches that Harebrained Schemes won't do Boston, because that's where Shadowrun Online is set.
LA and NYC are both great suggestions; I'd like to see both. Pretty much anything they do I'll buy at this point, because I've immensely enjoyed both Dead Mans Switch and Dragonfall (though the Director's Cut version of the latter was by far the best iteration of the "three").
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I agree with Herr Brackhaus, with Boston being the setting for SRO I doubt SRR will feature it. As for Jordan, I highly doubt we'll see him contribute directly to the RPG. He's an awesome guy for getting something off the ground, he's great at identifying talent, putting teams together. I just don't see him doing the grunt work.
Dude's a fixer.
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Hong Kong is my favorite SR setting out there--so psyched for this!
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Hong Kong gets so little coverage in the books and such - it'd be really nice to get something about Hong Kong. Way too much shady stuff happens there right now, I can't even imagine how it would be affected by the events of Shadowrun. Boston will be interesting in SRO though, so I have to side with Brackhaus that we probably won't see it from Harebrained Schemes. Another interesting setting might be Neo-Tokyo and/or Yomi Island.
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I agree with Herr Brackhaus, with Boston being the setting for SRO I doubt SRR will feature it. As for Jordan, I highly doubt we'll see him contribute directly to the RPG. He's an awesome guy for getting something off the ground, he's great at identifying talent, putting teams together. I just don't see him doing the grunt work.
Dude's a fixer.
Indeed.
But he's also a Hell of a writer.
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I know nothing of Hong Kong in the Shadowrun universe, so I am looking forward to it (if it's indeed the chosen city).
That being said, I hope there will be some in-game texts that will explain some of the particularities of the city. In Dragonfall (set in Berlin), there is a lot of mentions about political aspects of the city (ex : Flux State), but there are not explained really clearly. Sure, it does not prevent a player to enjoy the game and story (I love it!), but having just a little more knowledge of the city social and political background could help to enjoy it even more. And it would help new players to the universe or players who, like me, are coming back to Shadowrun after a 20-years pause.
And it can be done rather smoothly (for example, an optional file in the safehouse computer, containing the basic information).
Just an idea. But anyway, I will pledge for sure. ;D
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Man i dont think i could contain myself if they went Hong Kong then had Chicago as a DLC
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And remember that SRR is set in the 2050s so that means full on Bug City and a HK that is a communications hub of the far east.
The original SRR KS project offered an art book with excellent fiction. While it would be nice to see something similar or tied better to CGLs work the in game time difference would impede quite a bit.
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I know nothing of Hong Kong in the Shadowrun universe, so I am looking forward to it (if it's indeed the chosen city).
Runner Havens has an 80-page chapter on Hong Kong, and it is the best city writeup after Bug City.
RH is set in 2070, but it would still work fine for the most part.
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Runner Havens has an 80-page chapter on Hong Kong, and it is the best city writeup after Bug City.
RH is set in 2070, but it would still work fine for the most part.
Thanks for the suggestion, I just wishlisted the book on Drivethru. Indeed, it shall give the general feeling and background of the city.
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The original SRR KS project offered an art book with excellent fiction.
I hope that they include some similar on the upcoming KS...this was a great feature of the first one.
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The original SRR KS project offered an art book with excellent fiction.
I hope that they include some similar on the upcoming KS...this was a great feature of the first one.
+1. Also, an access to the soudtrack, but the "music reward" is now relatively common to all videogames KS projects. The fiction book would be a great added value.
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Update:
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More good news then! Thank you.
Wallpapers under the image here : https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1613260297/shadowrun-returns/posts/1095934
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Nice! Just sarted the original game.
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So stoked for this!! :)
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Can I pledge yet! Can I pledge yet! Can I pledge yet! Can I pledge yet! Can I pledge yet!
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I am going to physical hurl money at my monitor until they can take it. I may need a new monitor when it comes time to hurl coins.
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They should make an app that when you pay a KS with paypal it has a cutscene of throwing money at the screen where it is sucked away through the screen to the KS.
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Runner Havens has an 80-page chapter on Hong Kong, and it is the best city writeup after Bug City.
RH is set in 2070, but it would still work fine for the most part.
I hope HBS will do their homework and stay consistent with Runner Havens though. The paranoid fanboy in me fears they will just say "our game is set in 2050, so let's create our own version of Hong Kong" which would not be good in my opinion. But we'll see...
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Can I pledge yet! Can I pledge yet! Can I pledge yet! Can I pledge yet! Can I pledge yet!
Can I pledge yet! Can I ...!
Runner Havens has an 80-page chapter on Hong Kong, and it is the best city writeup after Bug City.
RH is set in 2070, but it would still work fine for the most part.
I hope HBS will do their homework and stay consistent with Runner Havens though. The paranoid fanboy in me fears they will just say "our game is set in 2050, so let's create our own version of Hong Kong" which would not be good in my opinion. But we'll see...
You know...Id rather have game from HBS to set the canon. Not that RH is bad book, exactly the oposite, it is one of my favorite, but something even co-created by Jordan Weissman is far more cannon for me, than aynthing what we can see now :-\
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something even co-created by Jordan Weissman is far more cannon for me, than aynthing what we can see now :-\
Even back in the day, Jordan was not that involved in the actual writing of Shadowrun. He came up with the original idea, but the actual world and plot development was mostly done by other people (Tom Dowd, Bob Charette, etc.)
And we don't know how involved he will be with future Shadowrun Returns products. I have the impression he didn't have much to dp with Dragonfall (since he was busy with Golem Arcana).
In any case, doing your homework and being mindful of what others have contributed to the setting you're using is basic respect IMO.
But again, maybe I worry for nothing. Time will tell.
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Rage? As in angry? Wonder how people would be angry at great news.
because: Kickstarter. Every Kickstarter I have ever participated or seen has resulted in rage and anger and
visciousness. Do NOT read the comments if you participate in a kickstarter..that way lies madness, because
so many people are idiots and have no clue what Kickstarter means. You will note that CGL never did their
kickstarter for the Leviathans relaunch? You know why? Because they don't have the thick skins like
Palladium does to deal with all the hate and threats..
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That part about CGL not having thick skin is really good joke
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Yeah. The CGL folks are pretty thick.
I would suggest that perhaps you've just contributed to some fucked-up Kickstarters.
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I would suggest that perhaps you've just contributed to some fucked-up Kickstarters.
Infortunately, this is all too easy today these days. I've always been pretty lucky...every one I've backed has delivered (though time frames were stretched), but some related to the RPG and gaming (miniatures and board games) are pretty damn scary (sad/disappointing).
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Yeah. The CGL folks are pretty thick.
I would suggest that perhaps you've just contributed to some fucked-up Kickstarters.
Werewolf 20th, the reaper bones kickstarter, the Robotech tactics kickstarter..
Actually, I think the only Kickstarters I have had a positive experience in the comments section have been the Twig the Fairy
kickstarters.
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I've put cash to one Kickstarter, so far. Exalted 3rd Edition. 14 months overdue, going on 15. On the plus side, they do semi-reasonable progress updates, I caught sight of a leaked playtest (which alleviated pretty much all of my previous concerns about quality, even as a playtest), and it's in the final editing and layout stages at the moment. Oh, and I specifically put down on the version that got me 10 free PDF books on top of the promised Core rulebook; As is, I spent 10 bucks a book, not including a core rulebook.
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I've put cash to one Kickstarter, so far. Exalted 3rd Edition. 14 months overdue, going on 15. On the plus side, they do semi-reasonable progress updates, I caught sight of a leaked playtest (which alleviated pretty much all of my previous concerns about quality, even as a playtest), and it's in the final editing and layout stages at the moment. Oh, and I specifically put down on the version that got me 10 free PDF books on top of the promised Core rulebook; As is, I spent 10 bucks a book, not including a core rulebook.
Yes..and they have basicly learned a valuable lesson from Exalted 3rd Edition: they will not send a book to Kickstarter that is not
finished except for the stretchgoals. I did not participate in that one because I did not have the money at the time. However, I
did participate in the W20, which was later then expected due to printing issues, and then it ran into shipping troubles. But,
Onyx Path does do good kickstarters with lots of updates, however there is still a lot of vitriol in the comments.
And then, there is the Robotech RPG Tactics one..gods..that is crazy hateful in the comments..
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Alright, it's the morning of the first Monday in January.Why is this KS not live and taking my money yet! >:(
;D ::) ;D
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Alright, it's the morning of the first Monday in January.Why is this KS not live and taking my money yet! >:(
;D ::) ;D
because they are waiting for my next pay check first? Or for later in the month when the mortgage/rent is less on our minds ;)
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From FB, going live Jan 13 ;D
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I'll bet the early bird kickstarts go quickly. This is a company with a proven track record of releasing two games that have been absolute gems, and utilizing Kickstarter in a smart and effective way. In addition to delivering top-notch goods, they do it quickly and they are totally realistic with their goals and expectations.
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https://twitter.com/WeBeHarebrained/status/553974896326623232/photo/1
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So, who else is frantically hitting refresh on both the Kickstarter site and the Shadowrun Returns facebook page.
Get the darned thing online already so I can give you all my money!
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So, who else is frantically hitting refresh on both the Kickstarter site and the Shadowrun Returns facebook page.
Get the darned thing online already so I can give you all my money!
So, I'm not the only one
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Checked it this morning and not up yet...will likely miss the actual launch due to work and such ::). While I might not get an EB pledge, will still be plenty of time for a getting in on the fun.
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Kickstarter probably launches at 1100 hours Central (GMT -6) if this post is to be believed:
https://www.facebook.com/shadowruntabletopgame/posts/10152994416169591
"Ooohhh…2 hours until the Shadowrun: Hong Kong Kickstarter launches…can’t wait! rnb"
EDIT:
Kickstarter is UP!
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/webeharebrained/shadowrun-hong-kong
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There seems to be no early bird awards, so no worry for those not able to pledge right now.
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And they've reached 10% of their $100,000 USD goal in the first 15-20 minutes with approximately 300 backers, so it's looking good so far.
Now to settle in for the long wait. August release date? Probably means Christmas if we're lucky, but I'll take it.
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If there aren't many major changes to the engine I could see the mid-2015 date as a legitimate target. That also takes into consideration Jordan's statement that the game has been in production, as well as the PC/Mac/Linux focus (to the exclusion of mobile devices).
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PeterSmith
True; now that I've actually read through the info (after throwing my money at them initially while laughing gleefully at my desk to the dismay of my coworkers), it seems like they're committed to a mid-2015 release.
I'm always leery of release dates though, so my own expectation is that it the game is released by Christmas I'll be a happy camper.
The 100k they are asking for in funding is "just" to add to the approximately 12-hour long story for the game as is. Even if the Kickstarter fails it seems they intend to release. There's a few cool features at 100k+, though, so here's hoping they get a lot more funding over the next month. I think setting the goal at 100k and going from there is a good idea, personally. I'll be following with interest for sure.
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I'm always leery of release dates though...
There is much truth here. But, as I said, a legitimate target. Had Jordan come out and said: "July 1st, 2015 is our release date!" I'd be looking at my system sideways.
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Agreed, absolutely. And it does seem like they'll be using the Director's Cut engine (with potential improvements), so that's great news.
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I have thrown money at the problem. I anticipate only happiness from now on. Isn't that a tradition or something in Hong Kong anyway?
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Just so long as you don't get paid out in Ghost/Hell Money. :P
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Heh. I feel the devs are shown posing in front of screens displaying the covers to Runner Havens and Shadows of Asia just to appease my fears :p
Backed it, of course.
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Too bad the rewards from the 55$ level must come with the Digital toolbox (which I already have). 55$ is a little bit overpriced considering I do not want the toolbox, so I've pledged 25$. If they create a 45$ reward level (including the 55$ awards but without the toolbox), I would gladly pay more. :)
That being said, I really wish they hit the 300 000$ stretch goal! :)
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The project is already funded. Wow. Let's hit those higher goals.
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I'll be honest, none of the backer levels (outside of the $15 one) interest me enough to break out the wallet. I like the bag, but not at $150.
Folks who frequent this forum are not the principle audience for this kickstarter. Not that this is a bad thing, rather it's quite the opposite. With the PDFs as options this campaign is set up to potentially pull new blood into CGL's side of the house.
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The project is already funded. Wow. Let's hit those higher goals.
An elf in Seattle whispered his prediction to me prior to the launch of the campaign. $500k in 24h. I think that's a bit much, I'm guessing around $300k in that timeframe.
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The project is already funded. Wow. Let's hit those higher goals.
An elf in Seattle whispered his prediction to me prior to the launch of the campaign. $500k in 24h. I think that's a bit much, I'm guessing around $300k in that timeframe.
If that is the case, let's hope they add even more sub-quests in stretch goals and maybe a DLC (Dragonfall turned out pretty good after all).
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I definitely agree on the levels. I can't justify going from $25 to $75 when all I really want is the game, the e-novel, and the new Hong Kong sourcebook. If they add alacarte options I'd pay 10-25 USD extra for the Hong Kong sourcebook (upping the pledge from 25 to 35-50), but I could care less about the toolbox seeing as how I already have it and the artbook isn't really my thing.
100k in less than 2 hours? Definitely looking forward to see the 24 hour and 30 day results.
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No one is forcing you to download them after they're sent out.
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Now that I think about it, I'm a little not happy with HBS' timing on this kickstarter. It's going to end three days prior to the Lunar New Year. I won't be able to give HBS a proper hong bao.
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No one is forcing you to download them after they're sent out.
You have not met my wife.
"You paid for it? You had better take it."
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I backed at the $35 level - I am happy to spend a little on things I won't use just to help this project really STTTRREEEETTTTCCCCCHHHH those goals.
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No one is forcing you to download them after they're sent out.
This is true, but I'm not personally wont to pay for something I already own except in very few circumstances.
I must say I'm honestly a little surprised at the attitude in your response; it may not have been intended as cutting, but that's how it came across to me.
Anyway, Harebrained Schemes've got my 25 bucks, and if they do open up for options they'll get some more, simple as that.
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I wonder who is writing the novel.
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Heh...looks like this Kickstart has adopted the title of the last SR5 book: Run Faster :) 3 hrs for 2 funding goals
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The project is already funded. Wow. Let's hit those higher goals.
I seriously expect them to hit the 300k mark at the end of the night (GMT +1 here).
And then?
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Is that Hong Konk sourcebook an older supplement or something Catalys will throw in for SR5? Because in case of the latter, I might not be able to hold back...
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Is that Hong Konk sourcebook an older supplement or something Catalys will throw in for SR5? Because in case of the latter, I might not be able to hold back...
From the FAQ:
About the brand new tabletop gaming SOURCEBOOK for SR:HK - what edition of the rules are you using?
Since Shadowrun: Hong Kong is set in the 2050s, we plan to support MULTIPLE editions of the tabletop game.
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I definitely agree on the levels. I can't justify going from $25 to $75 when all I really want is the game, the e-novel, and the new Hong Kong sourcebook. If they add alacarte options I'd pay 10-25 USD extra for the Hong Kong sourcebook (upping the pledge from 25 to 35-50), but I could care less about the toolbox seeing as how I already have it and the artbook isn't really my thing.
This is a great idea. They could do add-ons only for the digital rewards (as managing the physical ones would be a burden) and they would get more money rather easily (I would double my pledge probably in that situation).
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250K in under 10 hours. If they're smart they'll take what they have and not go nuts wth the add ins but I would love to get a second city again.
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Looking at their text and video pitch, I think they have a plan for some more strech goals that would fit with their vision and schedule. Can't wait to see how it goes.
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Well, have backed this...first KS in quite some time actually. Now to sit down and hang on for the ride...looking to be quite the wild one :)
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And a ton of new goals have appeared. Well, that will be interesting!
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I'm definitely really interested in the HK splatbook and how they'll turn out the setting. In modern Shadowrun, Wuxing is the big 10 AAA megacorp that dominates Hong Kong and I imagine they still are a major driving force in 2050...
But Wuxing didn't achieve AAA status until 2059, 2 years after Dunklezahn's Will granted them 3 major bequests. They didn't fully consolidate until after 2064 when the Matrix Crash let them gobble up a lot of Asian corps. Interesting to see if HBS can tie that sort of thing in.
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Is that Hong Konk sourcebook an older supplement or something Catalys will throw in for SR5? Because in case of the latter, I might not be able to hold back...
It's a new book being written, yes.
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I should point out that I asked HBS about whether or not I could get the Hong Kong book separately or as an add-on, and they said they don't have the rights to sell the book independently. Dunno if Catalyst is planning on selling the book independently, but that would be some pretty damn good info to have.
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Is that Hong Konk sourcebook an older supplement or something Catalys will throw in for SR5? Because in case of the latter, I might not be able to hold back...
It's a new book being written, yes.
Any idea if the book will be set in the current timeframe?
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Is that Hong Konk sourcebook an older supplement or something Catalys will throw in for SR5? Because in case of the latter, I might not be able to hold back...
It's a new book being written, yes.
Any idea if the book will be set in the current timeframe?
According to the FAQ, the book will be set in 2050ish, but it will be compatible with multiple editions of the rules.
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Ah! Like the German 2050. Nice.
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I'm definitely really interested in the HK splatbook and how they'll turn out the setting. In modern Shadowrun, Wuxing is the big 10 AAA megacorp that dominates Hong Kong and I imagine they still are a major driving force in 2050...
But Wuxing didn't achieve AAA status until 2059, 2 years after Dunklezahn's Will granted them 3 major bequests. They didn't fully consolidate until after 2064 when the Matrix Crash let them gobble up a lot of Asian corps. Interesting to see if HBS can tie that sort of thing in.
Even the shadows didn't really know squat about Wuxing until Lei Kung did the intelligence gathering run against them in POAD: DS, but up until the will it was known in Hong Kong for being the local kid that was into everything.
one of the corp’s top four moneymakers is the division that sells those little packets of salted dried plums you find in Chinese markets. The other three cred-pullers are those little pinhead-sized doohickeys that go into datajacks, some kind of biochemical compound used in skillwires, and (this one was really bizarre) personal flotation tanks.
SR2050 painted a good starting picture of what Hong Kong was like before Wuxing became the AAA it is now. The intro to the SR:HK Kickstarter says it's set in 2056 (SRR - 2054; SR:D - 2055).
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Is that Hong Konk sourcebook an older supplement or something Catalys will throw in for SR5? Because in case of the latter, I might not be able to hold back...
It's a new book being written, yes.
Any idea if the book will be set in the current timeframe?
According to the FAQ, the book will be set in 2050ish, but it will be compatible with multiple editions of the rules.
Missed that...thanks. ;)
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Sweeet, revamped Matrix is a go with 700k funding!
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/webeharebrained/shadowrun-hong-kong
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Another $300k and we get a prime runner bonus mission.
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Looking really promising. I wonder what else they'll post as we get further along?
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I think 300k is hard to match in the remaining days. Usually KS campaigns go hot early and then cool down rapidly.
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Nah it will get hot again in the last few days as people hop off the fence and pledge. That's also when the backers redouble their efforts at promoting the cause.
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or their upgrade the pledge as funds allow for more shinies :)
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I think 300k is hard to match in the remaining days. Usually KS campaigns go hot early and then cool down rapidly.
almost 70% of pledges to KS happen in the first 5 days and the last 3 days of the project, regardless of the length of the project. This is why, when I'm asked to consult, I always say keep your project to 30 days. The success will always be your understanding of you target audience and your understanding of social media. There will be a huge surge during the last week as the KS reminders system kicks in but if your worried then start posting on any cyberpunk, sci fi, gaming, RPG, or other website and talk up the project. Always try to include a direct link so people only need click and not do any searching on their own.
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I think 300k is hard to match in the remaining days. Usually KS campaigns go hot early and then cool down rapidly.
They cool down, yeah, but then often go nuts again in the last little bit. I'm not saying 300k is a solid lock-down option that's gonna happen for sure, but it surely isn't impossible.
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Cleared 800K today. 2 weeks for 200K should be no issue for this project.
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YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES!
The new novel will be written by Mel Odom! This is incredable news.
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Now we just need more people to support the other crowdsourcing: Get Bull The Ork Decker into Hong Kong! (http://neo-anarchist.com/?page_id=203) ;D
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YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES!
The new novel will be written by Mel Odom! This is incredable news.
I wish I shared your enthusiasm. I've only read one book from Odom, it was his Might & Magic novel, The Sea of Mist, which is simply abysmal. Worst book I've ever read -- stupid plot, stupid characters, poor writing...
I keep hearing his SR books are good so I'll give him another chance though.
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The Shadowrun Returns Anthology was really good, so we can hope the book's quality will be the same for this new project.
I was wishing more for a return of James Kincaid (from Zimmerman novella), but that will have to wait it seems. ;D
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I wish I shared your enthusiasm. I've only read one book from Odom, it was his Might & Magic novel, The Sea of Mist, which is simply abysmal. Worst book I've ever read -- stupid plot, stupid characters, poor writing...
I keep hearing his SR books are good so I'll give him another chance though.
I think he just 'gets' the cyberpunk and Shadowrun settings.
Also
including four Shadowrun novels (Preying for Keeps, Headhunters, Run Hard, Die Fast and the forthcoming Deniable Assets
I do not believe, based on the press release, that Deniable Assets is not the Hong Kong story. Could this be one of the other books on the way?
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I am VERY happy to see that we've got some more fiction coming!!! The fact that Odom is involved is a very nice bonus ;D
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I am VERY happy to see that we've got some more fiction coming!!! The fact that Odom is involved is a very nice bonus ;D
Been hearing this for a while..Only fiction that's been released in print though was Spells and Crome..I believe any of the
lines about Shadowrun novels when I can hold one in my hands from Barnes and Noble.
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Been hearing this for a while..Only fiction that's been released in print though was Spells and Crome..I believe any of the
lines about Shadowrun novels when I can hold one in my hands from Barnes and Noble.
At least three new SR novels are already available in print from B&N: Fire & Frost, Hell on Water, and Dark Resonance. They're also available in digital formats (I've read all three of them on Kindle myself).
And at least three more are on the way :)
http://www.barnesandnoble.com/s/shadowrun?aref=1521&keyword=shadowrun&store=BOOK
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As well, the fiction anthology from the first SRR KS was released in print (backers only though, I think).
@Mara - Marzhin is bang on, three print releases currently out (I've got all three on my bookshelf), available from BN to Amazon to FLGS.
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There is a new reward level that includes the out-of-print anthology "Into the shadows"
Quote :
In addition to all the great stuff at the reward levels below it (except for the $65 stand-alone level) you’ll get a FULLY-ANNOTATED .PDF version of the original, long out-of-print Shadowrun short story anthology “INTO THE SHADOWS” with a NEW FORWARD by Jordan Weisman, the creator of Shadowrun PLUS an ORIGINAL NEW SHORT STORY by Tom Dowd, one of its co-creators!
More info here : www.kickstarter.com/projects/webeharebrained/shadowrun-hong-kong/posts/1132156
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Wonder if this is a sign that done of the issues with releasing the "old" fiction have been sorted out? Very happy to see this, regardless ;D
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Based on the description I think this will be the FASA publication that was distributed before the game and not the re-edited version that ROC published as book 7 in their series. If I am right then great, I don't have an 'official' version of that book and their are 1-2 shorts that changed significantly between the two versions.
I am still working on finding out what is needed to get these books into a digital format (I feel Cyberpunk Pulp should be bits and bytes not dead trees) I'll pick the project back up in a few weeks and get some more headway on it.
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Oh, well then...makes this reward even more interesting. I'll need to go back and confirm which edition I have now... Thanks for the info
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Confirmed by HBS that this will be the FASA publication and not the ROC version!
thanks Jason
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Confirmed by HBS that this will be the FASA publication and not the ROC version!
Might seem like a silly question, but is one publication better than the other one (I did not read any of them)?
I ask because this anthology is often praised on forums and on reviews and I just wish to be sure I will enjoy it too.
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Into the Shadows FASA (ISBN 1-55560-118-9) Was released as a primer of what was to come in a new game called Shadowrun to be released a few months later. Its my understanding that Jordan and Tom had used these stories to help the other game designers to understand the setting they were creating. The stories interconnect as characters or events from one are mentioned in another or you read of wild battle that few to much attention only to find out in another story that it had been a feint to hide the real run by another team. It was our introduction to Striper, Wolf and Raven and places like the Jackal’s Lantern in 2050.
I do not own an actual copy of this version but it is my understanding that the first story, Into the Shadows by Robert Charrette was expanded into the first book of Secrets of Power trilogy (Never Deal with a Dragon) and so removed from the ROC publication and replaced with A Plague of Demons
Into the Shadows ROC (ISBN 0-451-45189-9) was published two years later as the seventh book in a series of 40 books released over a 12 year period.
The ROC book includes:
Prologue by Jordan Weisman
A Plague of Deamons by Tom Dowd
Graverobbers by Elizabeth T. Danforth
Tailchaser by Paul R. Hume
Striper by Nyx Smith
Whitechapel Rose by Lorelei Shannon
Turtle In The Tower by Ken St.Andre
Free Fall by Tom Dowd
Would It Help To Say I’m Sorry by Michael A. Stackpole
It’s All Done With Mirrors by Michael A. Stackpole
These are, for all intents and purposes the words that all of the Shadowrun universe sprung from and for that they have gained a reverent following. I do believe there are some excellent works here and I truly enjoy Jordan’s ability to weave the stories together and create a continuos world where choices or actions of characters by one author effect the actions of others being written by another author.
Into the Shadows (FASA) with the new story, introduction, and more is, for me, worth the $100.00 level if I wasn’t already backing well above that.
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Yeah, the FASA book was an oversized paperback that had the first part of Charrette's story in it and included a bunch of B&W art throughout. The ROC book replaced Charrette's story with a new one by Tom Down that was about Mantis spirits. It was traditional paperback sized, and IIRC did not have the artwork (I could be mistaken, I never owned that version and only read the mantis story once).
I'm jazzed about this, because I enjoyed Into the Shadows, and I *love* annotated books. My Dragonlance Annotated Trilogies are some prized possessions :)
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Thanks for the answers. I've upped my pledge to 100$. I wanted to hunt for this book anyway on Amazon or Ebay and getting the PDF is a better deal (plus all the other rewards!).
Now,l have to buy a tablet to read the file (been planning to buy that anyway) : I don't like reading novels on my computer.
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Update #23 (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/webeharebrained/shadowrun-hong-kong/posts/1136112)
Looks like that added campaign is in... ;D
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;D ;D
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Been hearing this for a while..Only fiction that's been released in print though was Spells and Crome..I believe any of the
lines about Shadowrun novels when I can hold one in my hands from Barnes and Noble.
At least three new SR novels are already available in print from B&N: Fire & Frost, Hell on Water, and Dark Resonance. They're also available in digital formats (I've read all three of them on Kindle myself).
And at least three more are on the way :)
http://www.barnesandnoble.com/s/shadowrun?aref=1521&keyword=shadowrun&store=BOOK
Huh? Really? wonder why I haven't seen them on the shelves at my local barnes and noble, then.
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Just thought I'd chime in on this - they hit their million dollar goal! This means we'll be getting an extra campaign geared at Prime Runners. :) Very excited.
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Huh? Really? wonder why I haven't seen them on the shelves at my local barnes and noble, then.
Your bookstore sucks.
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Huh? Really? wonder why I haven't seen them on the shelves at my local barnes and noble, then.
Three possibilities
A) Store copies already purchased and they are awaiting restock. Did you check to see if they had them on re-order at the desk? Also some smaller stores may only be assigned so many copies and no auto restock code, so once sold they do not replenish unless specifically requested by customer.
B) Smaller stores (C, D & E sized) have less shelf space and may or may not get every new release, based on a crazy formula headquarters uses to distribute the books. I used to work at B&N and sometimes the logic of what goes on the shelf automatically can drive you crazy trying to figure it out.
C) They got nicked or may already be reserved for someone and the since the system still shows them as 'in stock' until an inventory check, the system would not be restocking it automatically.
But in either case you should still be able to go to the desk and request them to order it in for you and only takes a few days to come in unless the warehouse is out and awaiting a restock.
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Huh? Really? wonder why I haven't seen them on the shelves at my local barnes and noble, then.
Without asking I don't think my bookstore would ever stock a Shadowrun novel. My LGS doesn't even stock the RPG. the only time we get product is when I ask that it be ordered for me. I have a standing order of +1 for anything that relates to the universe but I catch things in discussion here that they miss on the distributors listings.
I also buy my SR and BT novels from my LGS. It costs more (maybe 0.50 cents) but they need my biz far more than B&N
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The Shadowrun Returns Anthology was really good, so we can hope the book's quality will be the same for this new project.
I was wishing more for a return of James Kincaid (from Zimmerman novella), but that will have to wait it seems. ;D
It's comin', it's comin'. Sheesh. What're you, my editor? ;)
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We need more Shadowrun novels by Michael A. Stackpole.
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I was wishing more for a return of James Kincaid (from Zimmerman novella), but that will have to wait it seems. ;D
It's comin', it's comin'. Sheesh. What're you, my editor? ;)
Haha, take your time of course. It's just that I really liked that book. ;D
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We need more Shadowrun novels by Michael A. Stackpole.
I hardly read any SR novels. But I loved his other works for BT especially.
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I could go for another tale of Wolf & Raven.
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I spoke with him a coupe years ago and he is still interested in a SR and finishing his wolf and raven storyline. He has kept tabs on the universe and knows what they have been up to....but would not share any details, which makes perfect sense:)
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BACKED! - 1.2 million. I believe that puts us in the top 15 for money raised at KS for video game.
As for novels I would like more of Wolf and Raven but my favorite will always be Nigel Findley and Nyx Smith. Black Madonna by Carl Sargent & Marc Gascoigne was a fun read and Jak Koke and Lisa Smedman did a great job near the end of the FASA years.
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I own one goddamn piece of Shadowrun fiction as an actual book and it's In The Shadows. Zig and Zag are the greatest names for characters in a book, period.
I considered kickstarting it for 75$ for the roleplaying stuff or more to get that neat bag, but I just can't afford it anymore.
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For those still wanting to back the project, you can do it here : https://shadowrun-hong-kong.backerkit.com/hosted_preorders#
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Hurray, they are beginning to distribute some of the digital rewards (only for things already done, as the PDF old sourcebooks, redeem codes for the first 2 games, soundtracks, etc.).
Always great to get nice (digitally) shining things! ;D