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« Reply #60 on: <05-25-16/2255:09> »
Halfway thru and really liking what seen so far.  Skipping ahead, great to see a callback to older editions with alienation power.  (Edit) Notice Nosferatu and mutaqua art are in the infected and toxic chapters.  Not sure if on purpose or mistake?
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« Reply #61 on: <05-26-16/0122:59> »
Yey, the Stirr-up for bio-drones is back - and also mundane critters. Shapechange here I come.
Oh dear lord, trolls turning into elephants.  Even before boosting anything, you get assault cannon tusks.

Though I have to wonder if that run speed of Agility x18 is right, 'cuz that is ridiculous if you start boosting your agility through Shapechange.  Like... if you were focused on manipulation spells and used reagents and edge on your Shapechange spell, you could flat outrun a Suzuki Mirage off of 10 hits and an Increase Agility spell.

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« Reply #62 on: <05-26-16/0203:21> »
From Tumblr, the cover art, by Victor Moreno:




What the frag are those?  :o

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« Reply #63 on: <05-26-16/0244:39> »
Dingobats of course!
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« Reply #64 on: <05-26-16/1011:48> »
Thankfully, the animal pricing tables in Running Wild still seem reasonable.

Unfortunately, it looks like there's quite a bit you'd want to buy that isn't covered.

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« Reply #65 on: <05-26-16/1034:24> »
Yeah well not everyone has been playing since 4th ed... this could very well be the end of Shadowrun for me until someone competent picks up the license.
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« Reply #66 on: <05-26-16/1105:55> »
Scythe come on now, you know that Catalyst's process is borked and anything they put out will be riddled with copy-pasta and incomplete rules/ missing stuff referenced but not present.

Shame on you for expecting anything more than that.

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« Reply #67 on: <05-26-16/1554:09> »
No, shame on Catalyst for putting out an incomplete product, again.

This isn't our fault, it lies directly on whoever is editing and going over the product.  That's the person who either should have noticed a necessary part of the process is missing or they actively cut it out for whatever reason.  Either or, still not a product I'm going to purchase. 
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« Reply #68 on: <05-26-16/1724:35> »
Another post removed.

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« Reply #69 on: <05-27-16/0847:32> »
Y'know what would be really great for some of us to see discussed even half so much as the perceived slight of a missing chart? The actual contents of the book.
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« Reply #70 on: <05-27-16/0933:25> »
Y'know what would be really great for some of us to see discussed even half so much as the perceived slight of a missing chart? The actual contents of the book.

This.  I got it, Catalyst screwed up again and left out an important table that is referenced elsewhere in the book.  But what about the rest of it, the creatures themselves?  How are the Drake rules?  Overpowered, underpowered, consistent with previous editions?  Would this be worth a buy from someone how just wanted a monster manual or was willing to houserule costs, or wanted to play a Drake?

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« Reply #71 on: <05-27-16/1044:28> »
I haven't done much more than skim so far so take it for what it's worth:

I was happy to see the old Raccoon mentor spirit back, finally.

I'm happy for the critter book as our campaign is about to enter an area where the party will be encountering angry, native fauna.

The section on Drakes was interesting but given the karma costs I don't see it being a viable character choice unless the game is built around them.


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« Reply #72 on: <05-27-16/1113:45> »
by the way
this
https://twitter.com/catalystgamelab/status/735596481999081473

is what JMH himself says about the issue

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« Reply #73 on: <05-27-16/1205:34> »
...  Of course.  Of course.  It's not like corporations are in it for the money, and paracritters are in fact big money, nooo...  They'd never sell something as valuable as an animal where they can use such a purchase to milk even more nuyen out of someone...  I mean, then you have to pay for a vet, food, 'maintenance,' etc...  That totally means animals are a money sink.  It's not like I could go buy a tiger online with a few permits and the willingness to spend some money...

EDIT:  In a world where money buys everything, something isn't for sale (and that something is something people could buy today, exotic pets are a thing).  Ludicrous. 
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« Reply #74 on: <05-27-16/1223:24> »
Yeah that thread from Jason just reads as an after the fact justification for an obvious goof.

Without animal/ critter costs the multipliers make no sense.

It's clearly an error and the obfuscation is just sad.