Shadowrun
Shadowrun Play => Character creation and critique => Topic started by: Sly Shadow on <04-19-11/0415:43>
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Id like to know just how much cosmetic surgery would it take to make a female troll attractive to lets say..human standards?Rank wise ect.Had an idea for character but i just dont know how much to give her
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... a lot depends on personal preferences really... I mean, it's not exactly my thing, but there's chubby lovers out there who might really be into trolls. I can imagine S&M lovers who'd love to be dominated by a big mistress who could physically overpower them too.
There's simply no "universal attractiveness standard", there were times when pale = hot because it meant enough wealth not to come into contact with sunlight, right now every girl wants a nice suntan. Back when Peter Paul Rubens painted his nude women, their (big) size was considered beautiful; the photo models of these days would've been considered ugly.
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Id like to know just how much cosmetic surgery would it take to make a female troll attractive to lets say..human standards?Rank wise ect.Had an idea for character but i just dont know how much to give her
Charisma 5+, period.
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Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, and with transhumanism being a big thing, just a regular max charisma Troll Woman would be considered beautiful beyond words to some.
The more serious question is how much surgery is needed for a human to satisfy her. :P
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Well from what i read in the sr4 core book charisma stat has nothing to do with appearence at all but rather how well a person intereracts with others no having a high charisma dosent make you beautiful...wich is why i wanted some cosmetic surgery id like to have a character that s bit She-Hulk (the actual character) with horns
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Take silky skin, clean metabolism, dietware & (if desired) a
penile vaginal implant.
Regardless of whether you do or not, you'll still be a large, bulky, metahuman - the difference would be less fat / greater muscle definition, smoother skin, less body odour and .. well, I think you can guess about the last one.
You could forget the dietware and take False Front // mimic option, then learn how to create your own digital body images as desired - up to 20% more or less apparent mass, by memory.
That's most of your cosmetic 'ware needs taken care of, and you just need to decide whether or not you need some actual body sculpting. (realigning facial bones, horn shaving, etc)
If you do choose less weight, though, it would probably make troll dermal deposits stand out more. (not to mention how difficult hard lumps of nail or bone could make some situations ...)
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Just get the metatype changing geneware.
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i like Sid idea a lil better its expensive but its awesome to add to the character background im still working out the details on it
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By troll do you mean just the vanillia troll from SR4 or can it be any meta-troll variant? The giant variant could work out pretty good for of a mainstream feel, like a nordic volleyball player. No matter what your not getting a geshia or even Mary Ann type out of her. You may make a good tom boy on up to maybe Dark Queen of the night. Something that takes advantage of her power like a huge amazon warrior princess maybe. There has to be a orc who likes a take charge woman out there.
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A fomori would work too, metavariant wise.
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I like fomori. I prefer them to standard issue trolls. Mostly because of the whole magic resistance thing. That's always nice.
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So, is this (http://communityad.blogspot.com/2011/03/amazon-eve-worlds-tallest-model.html)the girl you're looking for?
(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5295/5474746028_19a0946425.jpg)
6'8" and resume includes:
~ Personal Trainer
~ Dominatrix
~ Model
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The glamour chick would be a model formori, giant, or other troll variant. Still you need to define who the troll is looking good for. Who is she trying to attract or at least get respect and interact with. Also cosmetic surgery, pheremomones cyber, first impression, human looking, etc. Can all shape Troggie to a cheerleader. She hulk could be a interesting teammate.
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The only problem with human looking it only works for humans, elf and dwarves (pg 91 sr4a).
I agree with most of the posters here. Beauty is a very subjective thing. Stuff like Silky Skin and Skin pigmentation minor cosmetic will work to make the character more attractive and are good pieces of fluff for her and character devolpment. How far she goes in her quest to be beautiful is up to you and the GM.
Princess Fiona by day.
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Julie Strain might be another suggestion for a "Troll Woman". Give her tusks and horns and call it a day.
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Fomori are good prospects if you are looking for a troll that is attractive by human standards, because they don't have the dermal deposits, and are not as large as normal trolls. I think they could be attractive to humans with the same kind of augmentation a human would get (clean metabolism, silky skin, perhaps things like a vocal range enhancer or tailored pheromones). They would still be noticably trolls (arms longer in proportion to a human's, built on a more massive scale, horns and tusks), but would be attractive to everyone except bigots.
Going beyond that (trying to look like a seven-foot human) would take a severe biomod, and would put the character in a precarious situation. Humans finding out she's really a troll would become hostile, and trolls finding out she's a troll would consider her the worst kind of sell-out. And she still might get less positive attention than the attractive troll - instead of being a glamazon, she would probably wind up in "uncanny valley", and make people nervous. Personally, I would recommend making the character attractive, but still noticably a troll, as a much more viable option.
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When i meant attractive i mean to lets say she was double backing as a club dancer and would want to be attractive to most of the clientel but mostly humans..also looks wise i kinda had something like Jennifer aka She-Hulk in mind....with horns small tusk and maybe some small dermal deposite here and there to add kinda like a pattern plus buy her some silk skin..so far i got like 20k nuyen on body alteration..im giving her some in debt since it would be her boss that would buy for most of the alteration, So far i got her some med Bio sculpting,Cosmetic Surgery,Silky Skin,Dietware,Clean Metabolism and Breats Implants.
I know its not really optimal for a character to have that kinda of thing but its great to build a background for her..also got her Distinctive Style negative qualitie to reflect that she really stands out.
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She seems like an interesting character. Characters like this are often a blast to play. Good luck and have fun.
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When i meant attractive i mean to lets say she was double backing as a club dancer and would want to be attractive to most of the clientel but mostly humans..also looks wise i kinda had something like Jennifer aka She-Hulk in mind....with horns small tusk and maybe some small dermal deposite here and there to add kinda like a pattern plus buy her some silk skin..so far i got like 20k nuyen on body alteration..im giving her some in debt since it would be her boss that would buy for most of the alteration, So far i got her some med Bio sculpting,Cosmetic Surgery,Silky Skin,Dietware,Clean Metabolism and Breats Implants.
I know its not really optimal for a character to have that kinda of thing but its great to build a background for her..also got her Distinctive Style negative qualitie to reflect that she really stands out.
If you're going for general attractiveness, well, you're at a disadvantage due to the metahuman disparity in Shadowrun.
Even a drop dead sexy glamazon with charisma 8+ and moves to match ( 8))may be completely unattractive to a dwarf.
There are social modifiers to compensate in some of these ways, but it as attractiveness is subjective (ie, in the eye of the beholder) it's basically going to come down to what will work in your campaign.
For me, the more human-looking the better. I'm species-ist like that :P
For an ork or troll, they may value big shiny sharp tusks on their girls...
Different strokes for different folks ;)
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oh im completely aware she wont have everyone she comes across drooling at her i just wanted to make a a-typical troll character that wants to be attractive in a "general" standard its more of background thing then me trying to make a comeplete Femme Fatale face thats gonna con her way thru everything. i thing so far i got the right thing to make that character..how people will perceive will be as another post in the beholders eyes but i think i reached the "extremely beautiful..for a troll" side of myidea
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don't forget about the quality: First Impressions
there are girls out there with a perfect body and rude as a devil rat
and there are girls who a troll may not give a 2nd look and can be as nice as silk
throw in some pheromones, too
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When i meant attractive i mean to lets say she was double backing as a club dancer and would want to be attractive to most of the clientel but mostly humans..
You don't find the first string of girls at 4 am on a Tuesday morning. Pheromones and first impression might be useful in a meeting with Mr. Johnson, but it might not help get nuyen tossed on the stage. Never realized the wireless world could take the fun out of going to a strip club.
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hence all the physical alteration mods..anyways tahnks to everyone i got everything i need now :P