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Shadowrun Play => Play-by-Post => Topic started by: Xabulba on <10-27-11/2000:43>
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Discussion thread for Xabulba's PBP Game.
We need to determine what style and setting of the game we want. The setting of the game will depend on the style of play the group decides on.
Setting possibilities for game style;
Seattle, Manhattan or Hong Kong for your basic corporate/underworld runs.
Albuquerque, Bogotá or Manila for smuggling and spy-game runs.
Moscow, Cape Town or Perth for spirit/critter bounty hunting.
This list is no ways comprehensive and there will of course be crossover run opportunities no matter what style and setting of game play.
Book material for player use;
Shadowrun 4 core rules
Runners Companion
Arsenal
Street Magic
Augmentation
Wired
Runners Black Book.
@all players – character builds will be as per the SR4A core rules. That means 400BP, 200BP maximum can be used for attributes and 35BP maximum in flaws.
BPs gained by flaws cannot be used to go over the 200BP attribute maximum.
Warning – any flaws taken and not role-played will be taken away and the BP cost will be deducted from your skills, spells or attributes.
NO FURIES, INFECTED, DRAKES or SHIFTERS.
current players;
Mirikon
Phylos Fett
Clashmasterj
D3ck3r
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Hey y'all. I'll be playing a combat mage, using the Swordmage tradition I posted elsewhere on the site.
As far as setting, Seattle is always fun. Though it might be nice to get out of the Emerald City. I can easily find reasons for my character to be in Neo-Tokyo, Denver, Bogota, Los Angeles, or (ghost help me) Chicago.
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I'm most comfortable in a mage role, if you want some support, Mirikon, otherwise I've a neat cybered concept I've been playing with. Setting wise,I've only ever played in Seattle and LA, so I don't have much input there, but again I have a concept for a P 2.0 flashmage
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Also, I fall into a Face roll pretty well, no one wants the responsibility
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Well, my character will be high cha, high Con, so a pair of mages splitting the Face role could be pretty awesome. And I'd kinda like to do LA. Instead of hiding in the shadows, hide in the highest possible profile.
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Looks like Mirikon and I have the magic angle covered. I'll be going manipulation/illusion. Sound good, X?
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Seattle is always nice, and I do like corporate/underworld runs, I must say.
Looks like the Magic/Face side of things are nicely covered so I might opt for a covert ops/street samurai concept (I usually get stuck with a Face, so it'll be a refreshing change of pace!)
I'll get cracking on the character tonight and tomorrow (a day off! Who would have thought it!)
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I can play a hacker if you need one. I have one I can adapt and write out the complete background for. She can also hold her own in a combat (not as a street sammie of course, but she knows which end of the gun is the end to point to the enemy).
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You always need a skilled hacker. And if they have a few drones they can bring to the party, all the better.
So the next question is, do we want to be an established team? If not, we might know some or all of the others from runs, but this is the first time we're in the same group.
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So the next question is, do we want to be an established team? If not, we might know some or all of the others from runs, but this is the first time we're in the same group.
If we are going to be an established team, we could always do what I try to get my players to do when they are making their characters - make sure that all the areas (skill/role-wise) are covered by two characters - what I like to call a Major and a Minor.
As an example, the Face has a Negotiations Dice Pool at 10 - 12 (he's a Major), but there is another (Minor) character that has a Negotiations Dice Pool at 7 - 9 (just plucking numbers off the top of my head, but the Minor is usually about 3/4 of the Major). That way we always have a back-up, and it gives us more flexibility.
As a bonus for the team (and the GM) there aren't any one-trick ponies in the team.
Of course, Xabulba might want us to be a newly formed team, and at the end of the day, he's GMing...
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So the next question is, do we want to be an established team? If not, we might know some or all of the others from runs, but this is the first time we're in the same group.
If we are going to be an established team, we could always do what I try to get my players to do when they are making their characters - make sure that all the areas (skill/role-wise) are covered by two characters - what I like to call a Major and a Minor.
As an example, the Face has a Negotiations Dice Pool at 10 - 12 (he's a Major), but there is another (Minor) character that has a Negotiations Dice Pool at 7 - 9 (just plucking numbers off the top of my head, but the Minor is usually about 3/4 of the Major). That way we always have a back-up, and it gives us more flexibility.
As a bonus for the team (and the GM) there aren't any one-trick ponies in the team.
Of course, Xabulba might want us to be a newly formed team, and at the end of the day, he's GMing...
My idea was that all of you are at rock bottom, either recently dumped into the shadows from posh jobs or trying to climb your way out of the gutters of the ganger lifestyle to a better future or starting over after a few bad runs left you with a crap street rep.
There is a place called Wannabee's (Watanabe's sushi & Cantonese) where the new, desperate & out of luck hang out and form a talent pool (kinda like a day labor site for runners) Johnson's can come in and recruit the disposable talent needed for simple quick runs. You'll start out there, you might know of each other and even worked a job or two with one or another but at Wannabee's everyone out for themselves.
Everyone gets a the 'bonus' contact of Wannabee's (C1L1, don't rely on or trust them).
Wannabee's is run by the 'Dragon Mother' a very unsavory and untrustworthy Cantonese dowager. Rumors tell that her husband gladly took a murder rap, and death penalty, for a Yakuza lieutenant just to get away from her. She is also supposed to have sold her 2 daughters into sex slavery and arranged the death of her only son so she would gain ownership of the restaurant.
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This is not a recruitment thread, do not post here unless you have been invited!
If you wish to be considered for play make your posts in this thread http://forums.shadowrun4.com/index.php?topic=5248. (http://forums.shadowrun4.com/index.php?topic=5248.)
current players;
Mirikon
Phylos Fett
Clashmasterj
D3ck3r
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My idea was that all of you are at rock bottom, either recently dumped into the shadows from posh jobs or trying to climb your way out of the gutters of the ganger lifestyle to a better future or starting over after a few bad runs left you with a crap street rep.
With that said, you're fine with whatever we can bring to the character within the CharGen parameters you have, and the listed books? What I mean is, that you aren't lowering Availability, or not allowing Restricted Gear, and so forth.
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No limits on availability or gear, with the exception of military hardware.
If you guys vote for a war games or critter hunting style game then military hardware would be freely available.
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Yay, got an invite.
I have two possibilities (given the third, the mage-face, is already taken :) ) to bring to the party.
I'd prefer my TM who's rigger/dronomancer oriented. However with D3ck3r playing a hacker that might be redundant. So I've also got the rough of a combat oriented mystic adept I can finish.
Any screaming preferences in that regard?
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Disregard the preceding. Ladies and Gentlemen, I will be bringing a combat medic. Emphasis on medic. (Got a wild hair, what can I say?)
Xabulba, how do you want us to send you our characters? I'm building mine in chummer, by the way, but can change it to other programs if that's your preference.
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Oh, I can play with that setup, X.
Well, even if we don't know eachother ahead of time, it would be good to have our basic capabilities in the open. I'll start.
My character is a Magician, but only Summoning 2 and Binding 1. He focuses on casting, and combat. Blades (Swords) at 4(+2). So his Major would be Spellcasting and Close Quarters Combat. He also has a dice pool of 14 for Con (Seduction) tests, and can be a minor in any other social tests.
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Xabulba, how do you want us to send you our characters? I'm building mine in chummer, by the way, but can change it to other programs if that's your preference.
If you want to you can send your character to the email on my profile. A better way would be to use the character sheet code found here http://forums.shadowrun4.com/index.php?topic=948.0 (http://forums.shadowrun4.com/index.php?topic=948.0) and insert it into a spoiler as your first post to the actual PBP thread when I get it started.
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Rulebook verification: only what you listed.
no WAR!
no The Way of the Adept
Right? (because I want things from them. Mind over Matter and a Way, respectively)
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Looking at Mirikon and Kirks concepts I think I'm leaning towards my investigator...have we decided on the setting yet? That's going to be a huge factor in my concept choice.
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I'm easy for location. The character and backstory work for going anywhere (I tried to incorporate Xabulba's 'getting started' information).
Of course, some things might need tweaked if we're going on safari (grin).
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No limits on availability or gear, with the exception of military hardware.
Cool. I'll keep building the character!
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Hi guys, I just got my invite.
Looking at what we've already got, I'm thinking I might go for some kind of muscle, either a second street samurai, or an adept. As for location, I have no firm preference between Seattle and L.A., but I think our starting point feels more "L.A." to me.
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I'm anxious to start character creation but I really need to know where we'll br based before i can...
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Hi guys, I just got my invite.
Looking at what we've already got, I'm thinking I might go for some kind of muscle, either a second street samurai, or an adept. As for location, I have no firm preference between Seattle and L.A., but I think our starting point feels more "L.A." to me.
Since you're the only one to express a preference and everyone else has been going "where do you want to play, George?" I'd say your wish is what we'll ask Xabulba to give us. Los Angeles, please.
The follow on question Xabulba asked was type of play to begin. I think critter safari is probably out, but that still leaves corporate/underworld OR smuggling and spies. I'm comfortable with either -- better said both look like fun to me. Anybody have a preference or recommendation?
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If we do LA that also opens the option of P 2.0, building rep while being cinematic, trying to grab an audience. Seriously, though, this choice is extremely important to my character choice. So I'll postpone until the setting is stone. I know I'm going mage, but I also like to fill out the group
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I like the idea of being on Pito. In fact, it would work with my character nicely. Hide in plain sight and all that. Which begs the question, how would we get on pito?
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I like the idea of being on Pito. In fact, it would work with my character nicely. Hide in plain sight and all that. Which begs the question, how would we get on pito?
The right job for the right person can get you on pito. When I ran a game in L.A., that's how my players got on.
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What sourcebook is LA in? If you want to based there I need read up on it.
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Corporate Enclaves.
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What did you have planned, X? If you've got a plan or idea I'm sure we would all be open to it, most likely readily so
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Maybe I should hold off on finalizing my Ogre Street Samurai, then. Might need to up his Charisma and get some social skills if we're going to LA...
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Never done LA so it could be kinda cool. LA also fits very well with the shallow nature of the first run or two I have planed.
So LALA land it is.
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*gets to work*
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Right-o! I'll adjust my character a bit, and get ready.
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I posted an early version of my build here: http://forums.shadowrun4.com/index.php?topic=5274.0
I got some decent feedback, but I'm not sure I'm interested in min-maxing to the max here.
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http://forums.shadowrun4.com/index.php?topic=5281.0 link to play thread. Head on over when you've finished up your characters.
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I posted an early version of my build here: http://forums.shadowrun4.com/index.php?topic=5274.0
I got some decent feedback, but I'm not sure I'm interested in min-maxing to the max here.
If you have any spare creds you might want to pick up some AP ammo in case you're firing at cars or armored trolls.
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I posted an early version of my build here: http://forums.shadowrun4.com/index.php?topic=5274.0
I got some decent feedback, but I'm not sure I'm interested in min-maxing to the max here.
If you have any spare creds you might want to pick up some AP ammo in case you're firing at cars or armored trolls.
The availability on APDS is too high for a starting character.
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EX Explosive ammo. 100 nuyen for ten rounds, does +1 DV, -1 AP.
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Also, my character can be found here (http://forums.shadowrun4.com/index.php?topic=487.msg59628#msg59628). I'll update it as needed.
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I'll need to make some minor adjustments when I get home - is it cool if I get started IC in the meantime?
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I'll get my character uploaded tonight when I get home from work, and head over to the IC then!
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I posted an early version of my build here: http://forums.shadowrun4.com/index.php?topic=5274.0
I got some decent feedback, but I'm not sure I'm interested in min-maxing to the max here.
If you have any spare creds you might want to pick up some AP ammo in case you're firing at cars or armored trolls.
The availability on APDS is too high for a starting character.
May I direct your attention to this earlier post?
No limits on availability or gear, with the exception of military hardware.
If you guys vote for a war games or critter hunting style game then military hardware would be freely available.
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Ah, I stand corrected. I could have picked up a better quality SIN, too.
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Ah, I stand corrected. I could have picked up a better quality SIN, too.
It's ok. I built mine "legal" as well. Just thought I'd point it out in case you still had some flex.
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Sorry I'm taking so long, the last couple of days have been hectic, and I'm trying to come to grips with the stats I'm being forced to settle with :'(
Should be ready by tomorrow night.
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Armor question: I've had a lot of recommendations to take Form-Fitting Full-body armor. The suit includes booties, gloves, and a hood. Would I need to wear the hood/booties to get the full armor rating? I'm guessing the answer is "yes", but I wanted to check with you first.
Related question: Arsenal says that for the form-fitting armors, you count encumbrance as if the ratings were halved, rounding down. The half body suit is 4/1.....if you round down, then it would count as 2/0, so you're basically getting one impact armor for "free". Is this correct?
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I posted an early version of my build here: http://forums.shadowrun4.com/index.php?topic=5274.0
I got some decent feedback, but I'm not sure I'm interested in min-maxing to the max here.
If you have any spare creds you might want to pick up some AP ammo in case you're firing at cars or armored trolls.
The availability on APDS is too high for a starting character.
May I direct your attention to this earlier post?
No limits on availability or gear, with the exception of military hardware.
If you guys vote for a war games or critter hunting style game then military hardware would be freely available.
That quote is out of context - it was in reply to me wanting to know if he was lowering the Availability of Gear, or us using Restricted Gear Quality. So, technically, you can have APDS, if you have the Restricted Gear Quality, would be my interpretation of things. If I'm mistaken, that means that I can cash in my 3 * Restricted Gear and spend another 15BP...
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Phylos is corect, Availability for starting gear is per SR4a build rules. I was only saying that I'm not adding any further restrictions to gear.
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oops. Sorry for misunderstanding it.
At least I didn't follow my own wrong advice.
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D3ck3r just bowed out so I'm going to add an alternate player named Operator.
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D3ck3r just bowed out so I'm going to add an alternate player named Operator.
... D3ck3r's hacker is why I didn't bring my technomancer.
A double-if. IF Operator doesn't want to be a hacker and IF you permit, I'll swap Runt (TM) for E-tool (Mage).
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I have no problems with making a hacker character, though I'll have to draw him up from the ground.
Meanwhile, I have a mostly usable 400 BP incarnation of a light-augmented street sam (http://forums.shadowrun4.com/index.php?topic=3431.msg39684#msg39684) ready to roll. He also can serve as a backup face.
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If you've already got a sam/face ready to go and Kirk has a TM that he'd rather be playing, let's roll. It's not too late to retcon our arrivals a little bit.
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Kirk are you going to swap characters or are you ready to go?
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Kirk are you going to swap characters or are you ready to go?
sorry, I was waiting for you to approve the swap. Do you want me to edit my IC post, or make a new post?
For fast info for all till I get it posted when I get home tonight: Runt is a troll. Distinctive: dresses like a Southern Gentleman (picture Colonel Sanders, plus Panama Hat, goblinized as a troll).
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Kirk are you going to swap characters or are you ready to go?
sorry, I was waiting for you to approve the swap. Do you want me to edit my IC post, or make a new post?
For fast info for all till I get it posted when I get home tonight: Runt is a troll. Distinctive: dresses like a Southern Gentleman (picture Colonel Sanders, plus Panama Hat, goblinized as a troll).
This game just got epic.
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Xabulba, I need a GM ruling on TM abilities. (I can run either way, but don't want to plan wrong.)
Can I thread Tacnets? Emotisofts? Some GMs allow, some don't, and there's a range of compromises between.
Also, this character as built has a piece of cheese (rules abuse) I stuck in back when I built him that I'll drop in a heartbeat if you rule it unacceptable. He has a revolver on which he's loaded a pilot so it's a drone. He then uses remote control (gunnery+command) to shoot.
It's always the little things...
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Xabulba, I need a GM ruling on TM abilities. (I can run either way, but don't want to plan wrong.)
Can I thread Tacnets? Emotisofts? Some GMs allow, some don't, and there's a range of compromises between.
I would say yes but with a huge penalty unless you have high skills in psychiatry, Kinesiology and psychoanalysis.
Also, this character as built has a piece of cheese (rules abuse) I stuck in back when I built him that I'll drop in a heartbeat if you rule it unacceptable. He has a revolver on which he's loaded a pilot so it's a drone. He then uses remote control (gunnery+command) to shoot.
It's always the little things...
The gun would have to be attached to a controllable mount or you would need to have Skillwires, otherwise the gun wouldn't be able to aim its self.
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Xabulba, I need a GM ruling on TM abilities. (I can run either way, but don't want to plan wrong.)
Can I thread Tacnets? Emotisofts? Some GMs allow, some don't, and there's a range of compromises between.
I would say yes but with a huge penalty unless you have high skills in psychiatry, Kinesiology and psychoanalysis.
For tacnets?
I can see that -- and in fact think that's a brilliant solution -- for the emotisoft. I'm going to ask you to draft up your penalty as if there's not a face to whom I can pass the social issue I will use it.
Also, this character as built has a piece of cheese (rules abuse) I stuck in back when I built him that I'll drop in a heartbeat if you rule it unacceptable. He has a revolver on which he's loaded a pilot so it's a drone. He then uses remote control (gunnery+command) to shoot.
It's always the little things...
The gun would have to be attached to a controllable mount or you would need to have Skillwires, otherwise the gun wouldn't be able to aim its self.
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That's ... better than I expected. Still, I'll drop it from the current character. Final done tonight.
Runt is in play.
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Of course, a tacnet needs at least Rating+1 people with Rating senses (or sensors) each tied in, or it doesn't work. There might be 'translation errors' between an actual program tacnet, and the complex form. In other words, the form might not work with non-TMs. Since you can have a form for the actual programming needed for a smartlink, that isn't an issue, but do remember that threading imposes a -2 penalty on all actions that aren't part of the threaded program's function. Since the program's function is to share data, that penalty would likely apply to any attacks or defenses you made while threading the tacnet. So you'd need to have it at Rating 3 or better to get past the 'break even' point.
Honestly? I wouldn't bother with it unless everyone else in the group has a tacnet up and running.
For emotisofts, I'd just pick up an emotitoy drone and be done with it.
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Xabulba, I need a GM ruling on TM abilities. (I can run either way, but don't want to plan wrong.)
Can I thread Tacnets? Emotisofts? Some GMs allow, some don't, and there's a range of compromises between.
I would say yes but with a huge penalty unless you have high skills in psychiatry, Kinesiology and psychoanalysis.
Also, this character as built has a piece of cheese (rules abuse) I stuck in back when I built him that I'll drop in a heartbeat if you rule it unacceptable. He has a revolver on which he's loaded a pilot so it's a drone. He then uses remote control (gunnery+command) to shoot.
It's always the little things...
The gun would have to be attached to a controllable mount or you would need to have Skillwires, otherwise the gun wouldn't be able to aim its self.
I had a technomancer pull this one in a game of mine a year or two ago. Wish I had thought of this complication.
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Of course, a tacnet needs at least Rating+1 people with Rating senses (or sensors) each tied in, or it doesn't work. There might be 'translation errors' between an actual program tacnet, and the complex form. In other words, the form might not work with non-TMs. Since you can have a form for the actual programming needed for a smartlink, that isn't an issue, but do remember that threading imposes a -2 penalty on all actions that aren't part of the threaded program's function. Since the program's function is to share data, that penalty would likely apply to any attacks or defenses you made while threading the tacnet. So you'd need to have it at Rating 3 or better to get past the 'break even' point.
Honestly? I wouldn't bother with it unless everyone else in the group has a tacnet up and running.
For emotisofts, I'd just pick up an emotitoy drone and be done with it.
For the emotisoft, sometimes people object to emotitoys being around. By preference the toy, by occasional necessity the complex form.
As to tacsoft, I expect to have at least four drones on an actual run capable of supporting an R3 tacnet. That's "only" +1 for me )and them on a remote control). That's +3 when I let their pilots do the running.
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But it doesn't address whether there are translation errors between the complex form and program versions of the net. Forms may go by the same name as programs, but they are different.
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Wait, I see where the confusion is.
You're thinking of each individual running tacsoft.
If/when I run it for my drones, they'll be centralized/slaved.
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I'm a little confused - first the Johnson asks us to steal and destroy the remaining stock of commlinks, then he says it's important that we NOT destroy all of the remaining commlinks. Was there a typo?
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"Second you will steal the majority of the remaining stock and destroy it preventing our patron’s competitors from befitting from the early release of the com links”.
He wants us to further decrease the supply of commlinks without leaving a big glaring trail pointing at the patron, whom I shall henceforth refer to as Lunchbox.
What appears to be case is that Lunchbox wants the runners to get his shipment of the commlinks and trash most of the remainder so that the big box competitors are left a fraction of their original shipments instead of absolutely nothing at all.
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That's my read on things, too.
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Xabulba, I (finally) posted Runt's sheet in my first post for your review. I had to strip some things I did with rules games, and then... it's always the little details.
I have another GM ruling request. How do you intend to rule on sprites jumping into drones?
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Grimm's sheet is now in my signature - let me know if I left anything out, or if you want an explanation of anything, etc.
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Xabulba, I (finally) posted Runt's sheet in my first post for your review. I had to strip some things I did with rules games, and then... it's always the little details.
I have another GM ruling request. How do you intend to rule on sprites jumping into drones?
Not sure what you're asking? If you're trying to hack a drone the sprite would have to attack and defeat the pilot program. If your asking if you can use a sprite as a pilot program I would say yes but the sprite would by default have to use it's resonance with a -2 for all tasks it doesn't have a specific power for.
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What happened to clashmasterj? Weren't they playing a Face?
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He was, but I haven't seen him post in the thread. Looking at his profile says that while he's logged onto the site, he hasn't actually posted since the 31st.
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Well, that's a kick in the pants - the only reason I went for a Sam rather than a Face was because the Face options were covered. Although, I believe that Operator has some Face skillsets, IIRC.
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Haven't heard from him for a bit and didn't want to wait to start the game. If he shows we can work him in latter.
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Xabulba, I (finally) posted Runt's sheet in my first post for your review. I had to strip some things I did with rules games, and then... it's always the little details.
I have another GM ruling request. How do you intend to rule on sprites jumping into drones?
Not sure what you're asking? If you're trying to hack a drone the sprite would have to attack and defeat the pilot program. If your asking if you can use a sprite as a pilot program I would say yes but the sprite would by default have to use it's resonance with a -2 for all tasks it doesn't have a specific power for.
The pilot part. I've seen - been involved in - a fair amount of discussion (ahem) over whether a sprite can "jump in" to act as the pilot, and if it does what to do about the non-specific powers. Thanks for your ruling.
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Xabulba, I (finally) posted Runt's sheet in my first post for your review. I had to strip some things I did with rules games, and then... it's always the little details.
I have another GM ruling request. How do you intend to rule on sprites jumping into drones?
Not sure what you're asking? If you're trying to hack a drone the sprite would have to attack and defeat the pilot program. If your asking if you can use a sprite as a pilot program I would say yes but the sprite would by default have to use it's resonance with a -2 for all tasks it doesn't have a specific power for.
The pilot part. I've seen - been involved in - a fair amount of discussion (ahem) over whether a sprite can "jump in" to act as the pilot, and if it does what to do about the non-specific powers. Thanks for your ruling.
I would allow you ingame to work out how to create a drone-sprite with some roleplaying and karma.
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Kirk are you going to swap characters or are you ready to go?
sorry, I was waiting for you to approve the swap. Do you want me to edit my IC post, or make a new post?
For fast info for all till I get it posted when I get home tonight: Runt is a troll. Distinctive: dresses like a Southern Gentleman (picture Colonel Sanders, plus Panama Hat, goblinized as a troll).
This game just got epic.
I just imagined Runt talking in Foghorn Leghorn's voice. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-LCsiWL6gn0)
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Kirk are you going to swap characters or are you ready to go?
sorry, I was waiting for you to approve the swap. Do you want me to edit my IC post, or make a new post?
For fast info for all till I get it posted when I get home tonight: Runt is a troll. Distinctive: dresses like a Southern Gentleman (picture Colonel Sanders, plus Panama Hat, goblinized as a troll).
This game just got epic.
I just imagined Runt talking in Foghorn Leghorn's voice. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-LCsiWL6gn0)
Bass not tenor, and no stammer, though the accent is close. Think J. D. Sumner (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JO7K22LHhtA), instead.
I'm going to try (emphasis) to remember to keep up dialect while writing, but not so much as to make it unreadable. If I have made it unreadable please let me know and I'll ease off. If I forget to put in dialect, just consider it there and you've just "gotten used to it".
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Kirk are you going to swap characters or are you ready to go?
sorry, I was waiting for you to approve the swap. Do you want me to edit my IC post, or make a new post?
For fast info for all till I get it posted when I get home tonight: Runt is a troll. Distinctive: dresses like a Southern Gentleman (picture Colonel Sanders, plus Panama Hat, goblinized as a troll).
This game just got epic.
I just imagined Runt talking in Foghorn Leghorn's voice. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-LCsiWL6gn0)
Bass not tenor, and no stammer, though the accent is close. Think J. D. Sumner (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JO7K22LHhtA), instead.
I'm going to try (emphasis) to remember to keep up dialect while writing, but not so much as to make it unreadable. If I have made it unreadable please let me know and I'll ease off. If I forget to put in dialect, just consider it there and you've just "gotten used to it".
Too late I've already got Val Kilmer's Doc Holliday echoing in my head. :D
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Sorry, guys, I thought I would have the time to devote to this but work has picked up and its all I've been able to do to check in once in awhile, it actually took me a half hour between beginning this post and getting to this word. If I get my character done, which given the characters gathered so far is leaning towards an infiltration mage, then I'll post him and see if I can be worked in then or I can wait until the next game. Sorry, Phylos, for screwing up your concept.
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Sorry, guys, I thought I would have the time to devote to this but work has picked up and its all I've been able to do to check in once in awhile, it actually took me a half hour between beginning this post and getting to this word. If I get my character done, which given the characters gathered so far is leaning towards an infiltration mage, then I'll post him and see if I can be worked in then or I can wait until the next game. Sorry, Phylos, for screwing up your concept.
It's all good. My German Ogre Street Sam should be just as much fun to play as my Elderly Human Face Medic would have been.
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continuing the sprite drone-pilot discussion:
a) If I compile a tutor sprite with skillsoft: Pilot anthroform and skillsoft: Gunnery, could it then jump in and run an anthroform drone as a pilot?
ALSO, I need a clarification on how you will run Machine Sprite power Diagnotics. My concern is in regard to burning services and duration of any given diagnostics result. So say we're making a run and I have it run Diagnostics on my doberman's weapon at the start of the first firefight.
Does it last:
a) only that combat turn?
b) till the firefight is done?
c) till I pull the sprite out to do something else (or dismiss it)?
Does it have to roll:
a) Every shot?
b) every firefight?
c) once for the duration of its use of the power?
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I'm starting to think that Grimm might need to make an English Skill Test to understand Runt - I'm a native English speaker, and even I'm having to reread the stuff a couple of times ;) (No, it's not the accent ah trouble with - it's the lingo)
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Dialect isn't just accent, the colloquialisms matter as well. That's one of the ways locals everywhere recognize when other people aren't -- and sometimes why they can identify when someone IS local.
fwiw, it isn't native to me, but I had family for whom it was and I live where it is. That's why I can lay it on so heavily, and why I asked to be told if I needed to back it off a bit.
But I admit it's fun throwing it all out. :D
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Dialect isn't just accent, the colloquialisms matter as well. That's one of the ways locals everywhere recognize when other people aren't -- and sometimes why they can identify when someone IS local.
fwiw, it isn't native to me, but I had family for whom it was and I live where it is. That's why I can lay it on so heavily, and why I asked to be told if I needed to back it off a bit.
But I admit it's fun throwing it all out. :D
I blend in here because y'all think I'm from North Carolina, because that is written in my profile.
FWIW, I could probably lay it on just as thick if I was Mark Twain pretending to be Harper Lee writing To Kill A Mocking Bird. If I had my druthers, I'd be Scout, though - or Boo Radley ;)
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heh - but North Carolina's accent isn't... no, that's not quite right.
South Appalachian isn't south coastal. Both are different from their respective middle variants. There are also clear differences between cosmopolitan, urban, and rural -- though the physical locations of each may be separated by as little as five miles in geographical terms. Giving very specific local examples, Chattanooga TN, Ringgold GA, and Varnell GA all have differences provided you've got the ear to hear them. To the average New Yorker, however, they're all "southern".
Getting off the pontification, I heard both the 'druthers/ruthers' and 'hornets in the outhouse' lines less than a handful of times, combined, both from my grandmother and from around here. As you can guess, they've somewhat stuck in my mind. I don't use them personally as I'm an overedjumacated fella from not 'round here and if I did I'd come off as making fun of the people here, but I know them and know what they mean when they get used. Getting to use them here did two things.
For play, by getting them both in I've "locked" Runt's background in my mind. I've also hopefully done the same for everyone dealing with him in this group.
For personal, it is just fun to finally get to use them without condemnation or backlash - well, serious and personal backlash. (If you have to use a language check it may be interesting. :D)
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Xabulba, thought I'd throw out intent and expectations here so you can plan.
Assuming I've got some services from the tutor sprite (it didn't outroll me, I don't take knockout levels of fade, that sort of thing), I'm going to use it to get an idea of "normal", not get a karma point worth of knowledge skills. The thing is, I used to work in logistics so I'm having to carefully separate what I know from what I "know", and further from what SR and your version of SR may do.
When I ask what's "normal", I'm not asking for this shipment. I'm asking for known industry/manufacturer standards.
NORMAL 1: I'm going to skip a bunch of steps as irrelevant. NORMAL, there's a last manufacturer distribution point. Goods arrive at the location by train or by long haul carrier. Air shipments are atypical for on-continent production except when speed matters. IF they're air-shipped, EITHER they've got their own local vehicles OR they pay a local carrier to provide regular pickup-and-deliver. IN GAME, I want to know if this is generally the normal method, and I want to know which air-to-warehouse is generally the method for Aztechnology.
NORMAL 2: There are broadly speaking two ways of sorting and storing at the manufacturer's final distribution point. Basically, by product and by recipient. The last is often subdivided by load. There's a third, temporary storage which is goods received but not yet separated. Pretty much everything received goes here. Again, which is normal for Aztechnology?
NORMAL 3: Multi-site stores often have their own distribution center. I have not yet asked if either Our Patron or Big Box have these - that'll be in game. IF THEY DO, however, we enter the next choice. Does Aztechnology ship to the customer distribution center, or does it deliver to each individual store. I need to point out that in the real world both happen, and a variety of factors influence the decision. However, a given manufacturer tends to use the same method, thus the question for what's normal in this case. emphasis: even today, "tends to use" is not "always uses".
NORMAL 4: Regardless of the previous decision, the next variation is whether the manufacturer provides its own transportation or contracts a delivery service. Note this is a different question than the air delivery question.
Note that all these can be "yes" -- ARE yes in the real world. It's a cost-benefit balance, and some businesses attach different values to the factors than others.
Now we bring in Local Businesses. This may turn into an in game data search requirement but given what I loaded in the sprite it might be available -- your call.
Some businesses can force slight changes on the manufacturers. The manu's may prefer to ship to store, but some retailers are such large customers they can insist upon and get it shipped to their distribution center -- or vice versa. Sometimes they can insist on who the carrier is from manu's distribution center to theirs. Sometimes these are normal, sometimes they are situational. I'd like to know what's normal for both big box and our patron, and if there are any other commlink retailers who are large enough to sometimes have a sway in this.
I'm going to have a bunch of detailed data search questions some of which will be based on what I learn. However, I'll do those in-game with appropriate dice rolls.
Finally, if you want me to throw this all into the IC thread I will.