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Title: Favorite Non-Corp Johnsons?
Post by: ORTEGA76 on <06-05-19/0933:31>
When your crew needs a break from running ops against the megas, who do you use? Cults? Gangers? Rival syndicates?
Title: Re: Favorite Non-Corp Johnsons?
Post by: Beta on <06-05-19/1013:42>
The title and content don't quite line up.  A non-corp Johnson can send you against a corp.  A corp Johnson can send you against non-corp targets.

Are you interested in different Johnsons?  Or in runs against non-corp targets?
Title: Re: Favorite Non-Corp Johnsons?
Post by: Michael Chandra on <06-05-19/1025:35>
Organised Crime vs Organised Crime, do-gooders with a big budget but little time, the occasional contact with a personal agenda*.

*: Such as a fixer working with the mob secretly wanting a specific high-rank mobster killed without it leading back to the group or the fixer
Title: Re: Favorite Non-Corp Johnsons?
Post by: mcv on <06-05-19/1036:42>
The authorities.

I'm running SRM4, which includes a couple of times where the DA or KE wants something from the runners. It's nice to watch them squirm. My group doesn't want to say no, but also doesn't want to be seen getting paid by the police. They're actually considering working for free, for a favor, basically.
Title: Re: Favorite Non-Corp Johnsons?
Post by: Stainless Steel Devil Rat on <06-05-19/1047:05>
Policlubs rarely get the attention they warrant.  Jobs sponsored by (or against!) policlubs should be a fixture of a Shadowrunner's milieu.
Title: Re: Favorite Non-Corp Johnsons?
Post by: Michael Chandra on <06-05-19/1052:15>
Oh yeah that's fun! Been there done that. 8)

Ms. Johnson: A group of Humanis members beat my sibling into the hospital. Go execute their entire compound
Runners: Uhm... That's a bit much even for us... *leave*
Mr. Johnson: Could you please capture the main culprits and not kill everyone, before my wife ends up actually finding people willing to kill them all?
Title: Re: Favorite Non-Corp Johnsons?
Post by: ORTEGA76 on <06-05-19/1508:45>
The title and content don't quite line up.  A non-corp Johnson can send you against a corp.  A corp Johnson can send you against non-corp targets.

Are you interested in different Johnsons?  Or in runs against non-corp targets?

Good call. Runs against non-corp targets.
Title: Re: Favorite Non-Corp Johnsons?
Post by: mcv on <06-05-19/1756:26>
In that case, Humanis.
Title: Re: Favorite Non-Corp Johnsons?
Post by: JoeNapalm on <06-18-19/1034:16>
Oh yeah that's fun! Been there done that. 8)

Ms. Johnson: A group of Humanis members beat my sibling into the hospital. Go execute their entire compound
Runners: Uhm... That's a bit much even for us... *leave*
Mr. Johnson: Could you please capture the main culprits and not kill everyone, before my wife ends up actually finding people willing to kill them all?

Your Runners must have stronger moral compasses (compai?) than mine...

...Mine would just start negotiating for price-per-ear vs flat rate.


-Jn-
Ifriti Sophist
Title: Re: Favorite Non-Corp Johnsons?
Post by: Michael Chandra on <06-18-19/1148:11>
I literally had to let one play a one-shot-character for a wetwork run... -,- Spirits called him 'Bleeding Heart'.

Mind you, most were perfectly willing to murder. It's just that an entire Humanis compound was a bit much for their tastes.
Title: Re: Favorite Non-Corp Johnsons?
Post by: Top Dog on <06-19-19/0207:52>
Spirits called him 'Bleeding Heart'.
Which is more annoying than you think - I'd had to explain multiple times to spirits that no, I'm not a Blood Mage. Turns out some took it a bit literally.

I still maintain that I was only a bleeding heart by comparison.
Title: Re: Favorite Non-Corp Johnsons?
Post by: Michael Chandra on <06-19-19/0223:02>
You were ALL bleeding hearts by comparison. Even mister 'I kick the guy out of the window, go downstairs and Cold Aura fingerpoke him to death, then kick the frozen remains into the sewers' who promptly got fined for littering. Have you SEEN what murder-hobos most teams are?? No, you were just literally a bleeding heart.
Title: Re: Favorite Non-Corp Johnsons?
Post by: mcv on <06-20-19/0729:05>
Moral compass? My players even object to getting paid twice.

Johnson 1: You need to rescue someone
Players: Sure
Johnson 2: That person you've been hired to rescue has a thing I need. Can you give it to me?
Players: Uhm, doesn't she own that thing?
Knight Errant: We'll pay you if you give us the guy who abducted her
Players: I'm not sure we want to be seen getting paid by KE. Can we do it for free?
Title: Re: Favorite Non-Corp Johnsons?
Post by: Michael Chandra on <06-20-19/0755:31>
I've had players contribute teamwork negotiation to the Johnson.
Title: Re: Favorite Non-Corp Johnsons?
Post by: Marcus on <06-20-19/0809:04>
Moral compass? My players even object to getting paid twice.

Johnson 1: You need to rescue someone
Players: Sure
Johnson 2: That person you've been hired to rescue has a thing I need. Can you give it to me?
Players: Uhm, doesn't she own that thing?
Knight Errant: We'll pay you if you give us the guy who abducted her
Players: I'm not sure we want to be seen getting paid by KE. Can we do it for free?

I’m not sure your players really get SR. Most tables I’m at want double for walking and triple if it Evolves magic or the matrix. 
Title: Re: Favorite Non-Corp Johnsons?
Post by: mcv on <06-20-19/2020:56>
Moral compass? My players even object to getting paid twice.

Johnson 1: You need to rescue someone
Players: Sure
Johnson 2: That person you've been hired to rescue has a thing I need. Can you give it to me?
Players: Uhm, doesn't she own that thing?
Knight Errant: We'll pay you if you give us the guy who abducted her
Players: I'm not sure we want to be seen getting paid by KE. Can we do it for free?

I’m not sure your players really get SR. Most tables I’m at want double for walking and triple if it Evolves magic or the matrix.
I think they get it, but money is not the only priority to them. With KE, they were afraid that word would get out that they're on the side of the cops. Not good for career criminals.

Not wanting to steal from the person they're rescuing is kinda defensible if she'd notice the theft and might endanger their pay. It might be an honour among thieves thing. But we're going to finish this adventure this weekend, so we'll see what they're going to end up doing.
Title: Re: Favorite Non-Corp Johnsons?
Post by: cantrip on <08-09-19/1719:12>
I love to use free spirits; keep in mind that they can look like any metatype they want - or even a Johnson. I've been using one that took an interest in my team when they ran security for a high end Halloween party. They don't realize that they have been hired by various spirits that work for the original free spirit. Nice and twisty plot - just the way we like it.  ;D

Other non-corp johnsons:
 * Area Ghoul leader
 * Vampire(s)
 * Urban Brawl / Combat Biking team owner/producer
 * Seelie Court members / or other fae
 * Eccentric gabillionaire
 * Insect Hive - Queen or high level lackey (the runners don't always know who they are working for)
 * University Professor
 * Local Bar owner
 * Gang Leaders
 * Dragons through intermediaries
 * Shedim - One Master taking down a different Master, again runners may not realize what they are
 * Journalist looking for a story
 * Government officials
 * Local Security Firm
 * Mom and Pop business needs help against....
 * Retrieve missing teens/kids for a family(ies)
 * Cartographer wants help mapping the Deep Lacuna
 * Members from various NANs (okay they are basically corps...)
 * AI of various types
 * Mysterious Decker - only communicates through the matrix (could tie into AI above)
 * Local band wants help with a promotional stunt
 * Talismonger(s) want 'xyz' retrieved or reagents
 * Ex-Corp / wageslave has data to trade, but is new to shadows
 * Mad-scientist type - needs help tapping into area power grid - what could go wrong?