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SR5 Host's standing offer

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Hanzo

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« on: <05-16-22/0354:24> »
Howdy, chummers!

Recently I decided to re-study Matrix rules and and bumped into this thing:

In order to Enter/Exit a Host you need to have a mark on it

In order to Place a mark on something you need to have Sleaze ot Attack attributes > 0 OR to know the Host's owner as only owners can issue a command the host to invite someone's mark

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INVITE MARK
(SIMPLE ACTION)
Marks Required: Owner
Test: none (Data Processing action)
If you’re the owner of a device, file, persona, host, or
IC program, you can offer other icons the opportunity
to put a mark on your device, file, etc. When you make
the offer, you choose the number of marks allowed, their
duration, and how long the offer stands. The invitee can
then mark your icon with a Free Action. You may revoke
your offer at any time before the mark is placed, but
once another icon has a mark, you need to either use
the Erase Mark action or reboot your device to remove it
before the duration you chose expires.

This mechanicals says that literraly noone except for deckers can enter a host.

In the mean time there is a line that says that hosts can invite marks oh their own

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Marks only last a single Matrix session and are deleted when you reboot. This is rarely an issue for most
devices because they almost never need to reboot, and when they do the hosts and other services usually have
a standing offer, so re-marking them takes seconds.

Does that mean that any host can be accessed like this if you know that it exists (like a decker knows some metadata of this host) ? Like a host of a supersecret Ares Laboratory ?

Stainless Steel Devil Rat

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« Reply #1 on: <05-16-22/2323:34> »
Check out page 220, SR5 and the description of how the Seattle Public Library works with issuing marks to anyone who asks for one.  Hosts that are open to the public offer marks so people don't have to hack their way in. Of course Ares' secret research laboratory won't be doing this.
RPG mechanics exist to give structure and consistency to the game world, true, but at the end of the day, you’re fighting dragons with algebra and random number generators.

Hanzo

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« Reply #2 on: <06-10-22/0238:20> »
Do you mean that the owner can set a host into such a mode (I mean to issue marks upon a request) ? Because the Invite Mark Matrix Says that only the owner can offer such things.

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INVITE MARK
(SIMPLE ACTION)
Marks Required: Owner
Test: none (Data Processing action)
If you’re the owner of a device, file, persona, host, or
IC program, you can offer other icons the opportunity
to put a mark on your device, file, etc.
When you make
the offer, you choose the number of marks allowed, their
duration, and how long the offer stands. The invitee can
then mark your icon with a Free Action. You may revoke
your offer at any time before the mark is placed, but
once another icon has a mark, you need to either use
the Erase Mark action or reboot your device to remove it
before the duration you chose expires.

Stainless Steel Devil Rat

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« Reply #3 on: <06-11-22/1852:12> »
Exactly.


In addition, it's not explicitly said but I see no reason the owner can't set up a reciprocal mark exchange with legit customers.  "Want in to my host?  It'll give you a mark so you can enter, but ony if you give the host a mark too, so we can keep an eye on you."  Some SR5 SRM scenarios have hosts that work that way, even.
RPG mechanics exist to give structure and consistency to the game world, true, but at the end of the day, you’re fighting dragons with algebra and random number generators.