[JoeNapalm]

You can even mod it to SA for only a single mod slot (and yes, SA pistols do exist in reality).

 

Was that ever really in doubt?

Double action revolvers have been around since the Crimean War..


-Jn-
Ifriti Sophist

[Wildcard]

Pepperbox or bust!

[Anarkitty]

You can even mod it to SA for only a single mod slot (and yes, SA pistols do exist in reality).

 

Was that ever really in doubt?

Double action revolvers have been around since the Crimean War..


-Jn-
Ifriti Sophist

As a NOT A GUN PERSON^TM, I was not aware of it until I researched it, and they are rare.  I know there are other NOT A GUN PERSON^TM's on the forums, so I thought I would mention it because I think it's neat.

[RHat]

Question:  Did you mean SA revolvers?  Because I'm pretty sure most of us are used to seeing semi-automatic pistols in movies, at the very least.

[SpatulaODoom]

It's a niche gun that is good at its niche.

And when the gun's niche is "shooting things" it's a pretty good niche to fill.

As far as gun terminology goes technically double action revolvers aren't semi-automatic even though they both fire and readies the next round with each pull of the trigger. Then again most people don't care to get that A retentive regarding specifics of terminology.

[JoeNapalm]

Okay.

To declutter this a bit, because the "NOT A GUN PEOPLE" are, I think, confused and there are two conversations going on.

The term "pistol" refers to a handgun with an integrated chamber and barrel, such as a "semi-automatic pistol" while "revolver" are refers to a gun with a revolving chamber.

Semi-automatic pistols and Double-Action revolvers both fire one bullet per trigger pull, without requiring you to manually cock the hammer each time. (SR just calls both "SA" even though it can cause confusion. Kind of like now.)

SA pistols and DA revolvers are very common. They are not rare, either one. The SA pistol has been around since the 1880s, and the DA revolver since 1851. They are, respectively, the 1st and 2nd most common types of handgun.

To be clear, my comments are for clarification purposes - I realize not everyone knows, or cares. But SR has always been willfully ignorant when it comes to firearms, despite the prominence of guns in the game, and that combined with a "NOT A GUN PERSON" can become awfully confusing when people use terms incorrectly.


TLDR: What you said was kind of puzzling, even if we take into account that what you said isn't what you meant.


-Jn-
Ifriti Sophist

[Anarkitty]

Question:  Did you mean SA revolvers?  Because I'm pretty sure most of us are used to seeing semi-automatic pistols in movies, at the very least.

Yes, sorry.  Semi-Automatic revolvers are what I meant.

And for the record, I don't mean Double-Action revolvers, I mean Semi-Automatic revolvers: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automatic_revolver
Those are rare.

It appears that the Ruger Warhawk is Single Action, and the Cavalier Deputy is Double Action, does that sound right to everyone else?

[viaRailGun]

righto!

[JoeNapalm]

Question:  Did you mean SA revolvers?  Because I'm pretty sure most of us are used to seeing semi-automatic pistols in movies, at the very least.

Yes, sorry.  Semi-Automatic revolvers are what I meant.

And for the record, I don't mean Double-Action revolvers, I mean Semi-Automatic revolvers: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automatic_revolver
Those are rare.

It appears that the Ruger Warhawk is Single Action, and the Cavalier Deputy is Double Action, does that sound right to everyone else?

Absolutely.

And yes, true SA revolvers are very rare.

I thought you meant Shadowrun SA, which for revolvers is almost always DAO, not actual SA.

-Jn-
Ifriti Sophist

[UmaroVI]

It's a niche gun that is good at its niche.

And when the gun's niche is "shooting things" it's a pretty good niche to fill.

The niche is somewhat narrower than that - shooting vehicles/drones. Yamaha Sakura Fubuki and/or Ruger Thunderbolt) are better general-purpose weapons.

[KarmaInferno]

My apologies, I meant she had a blinged out Predator, not a Warhawk.

Was responding to Falconer.

I have, in fact, owned multiple firearms in the past. Hey, I lived in Texas. It was almost required by law.


-k

Aren't you in NY now? Where they ban anything as dangerous as Soda and up?

Yeah, had to sell off pretty much everything but the shotgun. Made me a very sad puppy.



-k

[SpatulaODoom]

It's a niche gun that is good at its niche.

And when the gun's niche is "shooting things" it's a pretty good niche to fill.

The niche is somewhat narrower than that - shooting vehicles/drones. Yamaha Sakura Fubuki and/or Ruger Thunderbolt) are better general-purpose weapons.

I'm curious to hear your thoughts on why you say that.

[Mirikon]

Well, for the Fubuki, there's the fact that you can do BF at SA recoil. And as a light pistol, it is easy to conceal, and an integral sound suppressor and external smartgun system are dirt cheap. I usually toss on a personalized grip, so I don't have to worry about recoil, even if I don't use the folding stock. Using ExEx or SnS ammo, it makes for an excellent close quarters weapon for a face, mage, or covert ops specialist.

[RHat]

The Thunderbolt, meanwhile, offers the same benefit, but with the damage and AP of a Heavy Pistol - and still makes it possible to achieve net-zero recoil.

[UmaroVI]

As Mirikon and RHat pointed out, if you aren't shooting a drone or vehicle, BF is better than the higher base damage of the Warhawk. Also, Stick-n-shock ammo in the Fubuki is very good against non-stun-immune targets.