[markc]

Note: I am just getting back into SR after a long time away and jumping about the book as I have time and what I need to know.

A couple of thought's arose when I was thinking about summoning spirits from other places:
1) Do spirits from "earth" (the place we live) get summoned to other planes (or places where other spirits come from)?
2) If so has someone asked then summoned spirits what those other planes are like?

Thanks for answering my craziness.
MDC

[Sendaz]

Well it's a good question,

Most all the spirits you run into will be summoned from somewhere else.

Even the so called 'spirits of the elements' like sylphs, salamanders and gnomes have their own metaplanes.

Back in ED, there was supposed to be a way to summon 'local' nature type spirits, though they tended to be a bit more work, the closest we get in SR were the spirits of the elements above as they can be found in their respective elements here on our plane.

As for questioning one, someone probably has, but verifying anything they say is probably another thing.

You may want to check out Aetherology as this provides some nice breakdowns of several of the metaplanes.

[markc]

Thanks for the info I will see if my friend has a copy as my game budget is very very limited.
MDC

[aono]

Actually nobody really know where summoned spirit came from and what they really are. The basic thing is they are not from the place we live, that's why you need to summon.

[Reaver]

Actually nobody really know where summoned spirit came from and what they really are. The basic thing is they are not from the place we live, that's why you need to summon.

Well, we know they come for the meta-planes... but what exactly are the meta-planes and where the meta-planes are located is the issue....

but you are 100% correct that they don't come from our physical reality.  Even Free Spirits are not from our plane, even though they are active here.

[markc]

Its seems you pointed out a big mistake on my part,
 I had thought that some spirits do in fact come from earth and did not realize that in fact no spirits do.
Thanks
MDC

[Reaver]

This is one of those things that you have to be a long time player and know the fluff from earlier editions to fully understand.

I can't remember the book, (I think it's a 2e book) but it has this long discussion between a Mage and spirit he has summoned. In it the mage is asking the spirit all sorts of questions and the Spirit is answering it.

At one point, the Mage asks the spirit "How old are you anyways?" to which the Spirit replies, "As old as time". The mage asks the Spirit a few more questions before asking

"If you are as old as time, where were you before the awakening?" and the spirit says "I was on the plane of Air, My home, with all the other Spirits of Air."

The story goes on, and ends with the mage going. "Thank you for your answers, It's refreshing to speak to someone who always tells the truth"
and the Sprit Responds "We don't always tell the truth...."


So.... was the spirit lying? Or telling the truth? That is up to the reader and the GM to decide.... (Basically wiggle room for tables to change things to fit their needs.)


So if you really them coming from "earth" for your table, so be it....

but the canon answer is they come from the meta-planes (3e magic book, 4e magic book, 5e aetherology) With a meta-plane of each type of Spirit (meta-plane of Air for Air spirits, Meta-plane of Earth for Earth spirits.. etc).
These are not empty places either! They are filled with objects and items, and spirits.... Very VERY powerful spirits!

(If you know someone with the 4e Street magic book, they do a good job of describing the Crystal palace of the "Queen of Air" of the Air meta-plane... A Great Form named Spirit)


 

[markc]

Reaver,
Thanks.
I have the 3ed edition magic in the shadows but only the core 4th edition book as I was a bit put off by 4th.
MDC

[Reaver]

I'll check my PDFs and see if I have street magic. If I do, i'll paste the story here for you to read.

[markc]

I'll check my PDFs and see if I have street magic. If I do, i'll paste the story here for you to read.

Thanks,
If it is allowed I would appreciate it but even if you do not I get the jist of what the story was about.
  But from a player and GM standpoint the whole "I could be/am lying thing" sort of just has me believing that the story was a bit of filler and not really any game focus  material. But I could be wrong also.
MDC

[Kamikazzijoe]

In my current game, our runners are doppelgangers of deceased corporate enforcers.  I tried to summon my own soul as a spirit and GM said it failed....

[Reaver]

In my current game, our runners are doppelgangers of deceased corporate enforcers.  I tried to summon my own soul as a spirit and GM said it failed....

Resurrection can be done is SR....


But what comes back, isn't what left....

[Sendaz]

In my current game, our runners are doppelgangers of deceased corporate enforcers.  I tried to summon my own soul as a spirit and GM said it failed....

Resurrection can be done is SR....


But what comes back, isn't what left....

Reanimation Under New Owner is a better term for it