[rasmusnicolaj]

How old can a shapeshifter get?
If they can regenerated wouldn't that stop their cells from aging?

I imagine a lot of corps starting research up in immortality with shifter subjects on the lab tables...

Rasmus just being curious 

[JustADude]

How old can a shapeshifter get?
If they can regenerated wouldn't that stop their cells from aging?

I imagine a lot of corps starting research up in immortality with shifter subjects on the lab tables...

Rasmus just being curious 

Nah, they don't have Immunity to Aging, just Regeneration.

They wouldn't get decrepit but, without Revitalization, eventually they're going to have other issues.

[Black]

Quote from Runner's Companion:

Shapeshifter characters mature
at the same rate as their parent species,
but have longer lifespans, comparable
to orks.

So most Shapeshifter runners are actually quiet young by metahuman standards...

[farothel]

The lifespan of a shapeshifter with insectoid features will probably not be all that high. 

[UmaroVI]

You're mixing up Changeling and Shifter, farothel.

[ArkangelWinter]

If they mature at parent species rates, a beginning shifter is maybe 3 or 4 tops. My question is, does that include emotional maturity?

[_Pax_]

Aha.

Page 86, Runner's companion; second paragraph under "Not Human":
Shapeshifter characters mature
at the same rate as their parent species,
but have longer lifespans, comparable
to orks.
So, some 'shifters are probably very young by metahuman standards, but not all of them necessarily are.

  Just like SOME human shadowrunners are 18 or 20 or 22.  But some might be 40-something.

  As for emotional maturity?  They're NOT HUMAN.  Their idea of emotional maturity, or not?  Completely different from that of metahumanity.

[farothel]

You're mixing up Changeling and Shifter, farothel.

Why can't there be a shapeshifters that shift to giant insects?  I don't have my books here, so I can't look it up, but I assume a lot of animals are possible, including insects.

[ArkangelWinter]

  As for emotional maturity?  They're NOT HUMAN.  Their idea of emotional maturity, or not?  Completely different from that of metahumanity.

I'm not arguing that point, they're minds are certainly alien. But the addition of sentience does raise the question of whether they reach adult human levels of mental development at the same rate they physically age.

Though it's kind of moot, since most human culture would be strange even to old shifters who hadn't been in the cities.

[All4BigGuns]

Pax and I are in agreement with one thing. The shapeshifters are not humans or other metatypes that can turn into animals, but rather they are animals that can take a human form. As such they would be born as the animal and age in the same manner, but likely live longer than the animal as the quote someone brought up mentioning orks states.

Nah, they don't have Immunity to Aging, just Regeneration.

Just being a smart-ass here, but look at Wolverine, his Regeneration made him pretty much immune to aging. 

[CanRay]

Just being a smart-ass here, but look at Wolverine, his Regeneration made him pretty much immune to aging. 

Didn't make him immune to brainwashing.

That said, I do love the Canucklehead.

IIRC, Shapechangers have a lifespan equal to the animals they originate at.  They're likely to be at the top end of that, due to the greater intelligence and regeneration.  So, a Wolf Shapechanger might live for, oh, 20-years, maybe 25-years.

[_Pax_]

IIRC, Shapechangers have a lifespan equal to the animals they originate at.  They're likely to be at the top end of that, due to the greater intelligence and regeneration.  So, a Wolf Shapechanger might live for, oh, 20-years, maybe 25-years.

Nope.  I quoted the book, chapter and verse.  Their final lifespan is equivalent to Orks.  So, around 50 wouldn't be uncommon.  Granted, more 'shifters will die earlier, of "misadventure", than will die of old age: they're animals, and lead violent lives.  Yes, even by the standards of the sprawl. 

[CanRay]

Bear-Who-Walks-Through-Walls seemed a pretty peaceful type... 

[_Pax_]

.... unless you're a wall! 

[CanRay]

Walls tend not to shoot back.  Then again, a Hearth Spirit might slot you up something fierce!