[Morg]

Some modern-day submarines, and all modern torpedoes, achieve higher speeds when totall submerged than when surfaced because their noses create an air bubble of less resistance ahead of them while their propulsion systems are more efficient with increased liquid resistance to push against

in both instances the torpedo and the sub is moving in water and not in air or vacuum, your just stating a point about fluid dynamics, but this isn't about reality it is about meta-reality and what that gives us is

• The Gyrojet is a rocket the writers are not trying to over complicate it or it would have been called a Lancejet
• The only thing that moves faster in water then air is sound a rocket is slowed by air and water resistance
• The fluff states that the Gyrojet explodes on impact, EX rounds fragment and do not receive a bonus DV underwater
• Lastly the Ballistics of an object is hampered by water not improved so underwater EX rounds would be considerably less effective

Therefore the Gyrojets damage is explosive like a grenade and not fragmentary like EX so it should be resisted by impact like explosives are

any counter arguments?

[Stahlseele]

There were Gyro-Jet-Weapons in SR3, did they not make the cut in SR4?

[Morg]

There were Gyro-Jet-Weapons in SR3, did they not make the cut in SR4?

No the Gyrojet pistol is in arsenal but They dropped an ammo type.  I thought it could be improved a little maybe haveing a gyrojet rifle or SMG,,,

[hobgoblin]

"But what if I shoot someone and them change my mind?"

Wire-Guided systems are old technology, and still damned useful.

and a pain to clean up, i have been told...

[Red]

"But what if I shoot someone and them change my mind?"

Wire-Guided systems are old technology, and still damned useful.

and a pain to clean up, i have been told...

That's for the janitor at the corporate lab to worry about.

[DoubleTap]

ummm there are plenty of smart weapons the recieve no out signals ones launched, besides trying to hack a missile flying at mach beejeezus, before it impacts?  I call BS.  Back to gryo jets, I would think that 100 years of development we could have a workable gryojet weapon.

[The Wyrm Ouroboros]

I don't recall exactly where or when I read it, but it may have been back in SR2.  However, what I vaguely remember is that the gyrojet pistol was primarily an underwater weapon -- and that what it fired were functionally ramjet rounds, using a water-reactive propulsive.

Then again, I might be mixing up games.

[Red]

Honestly, if you want mini-missiles, find some hive warheads for a Ballista back launcher and go to town.

[Morg]

Honestly, if you want mini-missiles, find some hive warheads for a Ballista back launcher and go to town.

I have always loved the Ballista. It's difficult to keep loaded sometimes.