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Tsuzua

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« Reply #15 on: <11-29-11/1018:14> »
And I've absolutely never gotten that. Yes, there's the Hand Wave of "everything is constantly updated and made better and faster and prettier and more compatible and sparklier, etc, etc, etc" but that just doesn't grok with me, especially for Activesofts/Knowsofts, which are basically archives of recorded information. How does not getting a patch to make them more compatible with the latest model Skillwires degrade the rating of someone using a 5-year-old implant? If anything, that patch would give people with the latest model a Rating boost.

If its some specific bullshit done by the company, like a systemic problem that they intentionally designed into it to create a need for constant corrective patches because otherwise the program tears itself apart, then a hacker should be able to fix that as part of the cracking.

I could try to come up with all sorts of arguments about how any of this makes any amount of sense and maybe one or two might even might make a little bit of sense to you.  That's just the story of the SR universe.  You're suppose to spend a huge amount of money on fancy electronics where in real life, you could use a computer so old that you could barely give it away.

Then again, you can get most of the programs you would ever want (not counting military programs) for about 70,000Y.  That's the price of 1-2 decent pieces of ware.  That's a lot, but not that hard to get if you really wanted.  If you pirate,  it'll be 7000Y upfront and a 700Y monthly charge which isn't that much.  It's weird for software piracy to cost even a token amount and weirder still that apparently piracy effectively is subscription based.  That said, the net effect is that same; you get what you want for a trivial investment. 

On thing to keep in mind is that if you don't plan on hacking well-protected databases, you don't really need 90% of all programs.  The true cost of hacking is buying the skills to actually hack anything worth hacking.  It's 44 BP to get Hacking 6, Computer 4, EW 1 and that isn't something everyone has to spare.  Even if you had two hackers in the group, it's not really that useful to have two hackers baring special effort on the GM's part.

Honestly, I would ditch program ratings entirely (expect maybe for agents) and just make the matrix entirely skill-based.  You'll roll Stat + Skill and what stat and skill depends on what matrix action you're taking.  There might be cheap programs you buy/make that merely enable you to take some matrix actions.  Like you buy/code an attack program much the same way a street samurai buys a pistol so he can shoot people.  You'll have to completely rework the matrix and technomancers to make it all work, but you ought to be doing that anyways.
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« Reply #16 on: <11-29-11/1211:42> »
Its just like the modern day equivalent. The issue here is that if you are a business and the developer look into you and realizes you don't have an actual license, but are using their software, you're in a lot of trouble. It isn't uncommon to see a non-professional's computer loaded down with software, none of which is legal though.

Then again, a lot of younger members of modern society don't even seem to realize that it is a real crime. When I explained to one guy how copyright infringement actually works, and the fines associated with it, he swore I was lying because there is so much free stuff out there you can get just by torrenting it.  :-[ Then again he also though that Linksys was a company that broadcast free wifi internet almost everywhere as well.

^To this....


OMG.... *head explodes from ignorance....*
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« Reply #17 on: <11-29-11/1416:48> »
Zilfer, you don't know the half of it.  You don't know the half of it...   :'(

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« Reply #18 on: <11-30-11/2314:38> »
Yes, that is by no means the worst one I've had to deal with. I think the laziest one was along the lines of "Wait! I have to take it out of the box for it to works?" speaking about his computer of course. The dumbest one was the guy who had spent two hours trying to get his computer to load up right only for me to realize in ten seconds he was just clicking on his daughter's user account instead of his. I was like, "How did you not notice that you were logged in under Princess Pony instead of Adam?"

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« Reply #19 on: <11-30-11/2320:14> »
Mandarin Chinese version of Windows ME operated by a Chinese Wife, translated to German so she could get her Husband (Who was German) to translate it to English for me, then back again.  On a Dell Laptop.  To make a USB Wireless Dongle work.  Using the company's own software and drive rather than the slightly less retarded OEM software and almost as buggy ME driver.

The two guys that were bigger than I am got out of my way when they saw me coming through the line for coffee, and wishing I had the family Whiskey Flask.  (It dates back to Prohibition.).

Apparently when M$ stopped supporting ME, there was a huge party there.  And lots of laughing at customers with suggestions to upgrade.  I was gone by then.
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« Reply #20 on: <11-30-11/2355:34> »
But that's a simple fix! I'm guessing you didn't have your sledgehammer laying around.

I do remember having to point out to one particularly...lets call him chemically unobservant...guy that there was no way I could fix his computer because it was currently on fire. He started crying, then asked if it was any good that he managed to get the fan out of it (holding up the CPU cooler of course). I felt very sad for that computer. I luckily have never had to deal with people that couldn't speak my language though (when it comes to computers, maintenance work is another matter).

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« Reply #21 on: <12-01-11/0803:27> »
But that's a simple fix! I'm guessing you didn't have your sledgehammer laying around.
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« Reply #22 on: <12-01-11/1019:18> »
Winterpeg? Ewww
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« Reply #23 on: <12-01-11/1020:58> »
Winterpeg? Ewww
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