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Crimsondude

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« Reply #15 on: <05-10-11/2103:36> »
Wat?
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Since the end of Beyond the Pale.

Nath

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« Reply #16 on: <05-11-11/1516:46> »
As a note, 'immortality' is a misnomer. It's actually 'Immunity to Aging' if dealing with Shadowrun mechanics, as such elves are still able to be killed via physical damage (although their experience and magical power still makes this an exceedingly difficult prospect!)
Or "Type II Immortality" if you prefer.

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« Reply #17 on: <05-11-11/1744:18> »
Man, seems like forever since TvTropes.

It appears to be an extremely difficult status to attain.  Sounds like a job for the Logician!
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« Reply #18 on: <05-12-11/2050:02> »
Weren't more of the Tir Princes rumored to be Immortal Elves? Aside from Ehran.
Look past the lies, and all the scary stuff that remains is the truth.

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« Reply #19 on: <05-13-11/0027:16> »
Lugh Surehand, Sean Laverty, Jenna NiFairra, Sosan Naerain, Aithne Oakforest.

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« Reply #20 on: <05-13-11/0455:51> »
All of them.
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« Reply #21 on: <05-13-11/0520:39> »
Yeah.  But they are all 'unconfirmed' in the SR world.

And there is not even as much data for Tir na nOg.

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« Reply #22 on: <05-13-11/0623:51> »
Yeah.  But they are all 'unconfirmed' in the SR world.

And there is not even as much data for Tir na nOg.
go here:
http://ancientfiles.dumpshock.com/Immortals.htm
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« Reply #23 on: <05-13-11/1249:24> »
By 'unconfirmed' I mean people - including runners - DON'T KNOW.  How many shadow posters took Lone Gunman seriously?  Bugger all, IIRC.  Snopes and Elijah are the current posters most likely to chase the rumours down, but they haven't to date.  Frosty isn't going to do a tell-all, even of what she knows.

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« Reply #24 on: <05-13-11/1643:14> »
FastJack probably has his suspicions.  He's called Frosty out at least once on the lack of posting and items she's put up.

Which, considering that he's put up one item himself...  :P  Of course, Slamm-0! has only put up the rare item as well, but when about half of it had to be cut out because of how detailed he got into sports.  ;)
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« Reply #25 on: <05-13-11/1830:13> »
All of them.
It's hardly all of them.  There have always been plenty of Princes that weren't Immortal Elves (and even some that weren't elves at all) -- the "big names" that the fans and writers tend to glom onto, sure.  The IE thing gets certain Princes more page-space than others, so the feel is too-often one of "ZOMG, every Tir Prince is an IE!"  What'd be more accurate, though, would be to say "every Tir Prince that gets much page time is an IE."

And, even then, that's all post-coup attempt.  The current Council's still basically one big question mark, other than knowing Zincan, the ork, is High Prince.

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« Reply #26 on: <05-14-11/0558:13> »
Tir Tairngire and Shadows of North America specifically stated the Princes that entered the council from August 2035 had a birth date and records before the founding of Tir Tairngire (even if Prince Maria Cinebal was a spike baby born in 1998). So, it is strongly implied Lugh Surehand, Aithne Oakforest, Sean Laverty, Ehran, Jenna Ni'Fairra and Sosan Naerain are all immortals. Novels more or less confirmed the fact for most of them (and the Harlequin adventure for Ehran).

And, even then, that's all post-coup attempt.  The current Council's still basically one big question mark, other than knowing Zincan, the ork, is High Prince.
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Sixth World Almanac, page 191
The first open election was held January 5, 2065. Larry Zincan, an ork Prince on the Council, was elected High Prince. Hestaby, also a current Prince, was elected to the new Council, as was Rex, the sole Sasquatch on the Council. None of the other previous Princes were elected.

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« Reply #27 on: <05-14-11/0659:39> »
For the record, the "post" was a typo (it should've read "pre-coup").  Sorry.   :-\  I still hate that we don't know any other elves that are on the council of Shadowrun's go-to elven nation.  Rassin' frassin' other metahumans, screwin' everything up.  *grumble grumble*

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« Reply #28 on: <05-14-11/0711:18> »
Hestaby is still a Prince in TT.  I find it hard to believe Sosan Naerain, above all, no longer plays a part.  Then again she was always a behind-the-scenes player - something like the ideologue of TT.

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« Reply #29 on: <05-14-11/1552:27> »
I figure several of the Princes wouldn't deign to hold themselves up for election. I do find it odd that Dar Varien and James Telestrian III didn't get elected, but that's fine.

I blame the humans for meddling in TT's affairs. And I mean the RL humans.