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Why does PnP Gaming get a bad wrap?

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« Reply #75 on: <09-21-10/1805:50> »
I would recommend the Dark Elf Trilogy. Salvatore is a good writer. Don't start late in the series. Dark Elf Trilogy is a good starting place. The Icewind Dale Trilogy comes before it, but it's less good and it's more entertaining if you've read the Dark Elf Trilogy.

What kind of settings do you like to play? Maybe there's one out there you would like more.

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« Reply #76 on: <09-21-10/1820:12> »
Well, the one my gf and I have cobbled together has steampunk, cosmic horror, and post-apocalyptic elements mixed into it.  I love steampunk and cosmic horror (e.g. Lovecraft.)

From among the ones I know anything about, the one that comes closest to what I'd like was probably Planescape.  But that one is no more.

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« Reply #77 on: <09-21-10/1826:26> »
Darksun is comparable to something post apocalyptic. Ravenloft is horror. But it sounds like you know exactly what you want. I can definitely respect that. I don't think premade campaign settings are your thing probably though. At least not any that I know of.

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« Reply #78 on: <09-21-10/1832:03> »
Dark Sun did sound interesting from what I've read of it.  I may have to look it over a bit more when the local shop gets a copy.

Oh well.  I'll just keep on with my weird, broken ass world.

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« Reply #79 on: <09-21-10/2024:17> »
Dark Sun did sound interesting from what I've read of it.  I may have to look it over a bit more when the local shop gets a copy.

Oh well.  I'll just keep on with my weird, broken ass world.

You should check out Eberron.  Keith Baker is awesome (creator), and the world is full of intrigue, a magical wasteland that mutates stuff, backstabbing, capitalism (in the form of Dragonmarked Houses), and all sorts of other goodies.  Unlike FR, there isn't a bunch of 30th level mages in every town to teleport you to the abyss.  If you want a good read, check out the trilogies from Don Basingthewaite (sp?) and the Heirs of Ash trilogy.  I'm thinking Don's books are the Legacy of Dhakaan and...don't remember what the other one is.  Eberron has Artificers that make a bunch of stuff; there's Warforged (which is kinda like steampunk), A city of towers built miles high that bridges on manifest zones that helps keep it from toppling among a lot of other coolness.  Based on what you say you like, I'd give it a look.

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« Reply #80 on: <09-21-10/2039:56> »
Back on topic; I agree with most posters here. 

We are a bit strange.  A lot of people have hinted or said we are outcasts for the most part.  Generally, gamers aren't the most popular people in school.  Many are shy or have other problems (antisocial, anti-shower, anti something) and we'd prefer to discuss topics of our latest character/world/adventure/campaign/etc.  Unless a person is into that, they might just not want to talk to you if that's all you talk about.  That's not to say I think gamers have a one track mind on just gaming.  But most people in the hobby are fanatics; at least the ones that the general public title:  Gamer.  And why wouldn't others think PnP games are odd?

1)  It's been said already, but it is very true- RPG's are played in seclusion away from people.  Ignorance and the unknown think the worst.
2)  Ditto on the "there's a high percentage of stinky gamers."
3)  A lot didn't have girlfriends.  I say didn't because the group is changing.  More women are involved in our games than a decade ago, and there was a fraction of women that played games before that.  Honestly I think the internet helped gaming immensely. 
4)  Gamers spend their weekends indoors, not playing or watching sports, going to the mall, partying, or studying. Thus, most people are going to think, "what is wrong with those kids?"  There must be something up with that RPG game.  Heck, when I was a kid, I was outside playing or reading my religious text."  (For the record, I am a Christian, but I have to roll my eyes at those types of remarks.)
5)  Gamers don't generally garner the most healthy (or the most attractive) bunch of individuals.  Many gamers don't exercise (much), and the big type of food is junk food (pizza, chips, soda, etc)

Now while that's the stigma, it may not be the case in all games, of course.  However, in many of the games or conventions I have been in, I have seen this overall.

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« Reply #81 on: <09-22-10/1417:44> »
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You should check out Eberron.  Keith Baker is awesome (creator), and the world is full of intrigue, a magical wasteland that mutates stuff, backstabbing, capitalism (in the form of Dragonmarked Houses), and all sorts of other goodies.  Unlike FR, there isn't a bunch of 30th level mages in every town to teleport you to the abyss.  If you want a good read, check out the trilogies from Don Basingthewaite (sp?) and the Heirs of Ash trilogy.  I'm thinking Don's books are the Legacy of Dhakaan and...don't remember what the other one is.  Eberron has Artificers that make a bunch of stuff; there's Warforged (which is kinda  like steampunk), A city of towers built miles high that bridges on manifest zones that helps keep it from toppling among a lot of other coolness.  Based on what you say you like, I'd give it a look.
I like some parts of Eberron and dislike others.  I've actually lifted a few of ideas from it (as I have from a lot of other sources) and I really like the artificer class.  I think I'm just too committed to by baby now to switch to a pre-made.

But for the original topic:
And I definitely get the anti-social aspects of it.  That's me.  I'm quickly irritated by most people and only get along with small numbers of those I meet.  Mostly eccentric oddballs like myself.

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« Reply #82 on: <09-22-10/1434:06> »
There are some interesting bits in Eberron, but I really don't like the kitchen sink play of it.

Dark Sun was very interesting and very fun to play, back in the day.  Sadly, I fear that 4E D&D is probably going to cheapen it.
There is no overkill.

Only "Open fire" and "I need to reload."

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« Reply #83 on: <09-22-10/1434:50> »
I actually rather like 4E D&D.

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« Reply #84 on: <09-22-10/1436:28> »
NO! No edition wars here... Stop it right there! :P

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« Reply #85 on: <09-22-10/1438:29> »
Oh, 4E is good for certain styles of play and settings, to be sure.  I just don't think it is suitable for Dark Sun, as DS is pretty unheroic, and 4E strives to be heroic and then some.
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Only "Open fire" and "I need to reload."

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« Reply #86 on: <09-22-10/1441:04> »
True.  Which is why I tweak it a little for my games.

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« Reply #87 on: <09-22-10/1443:29> »
Oh, 4E is good for certain styles of play and settings, to be sure.  I just don't think it is suitable for Dark Sun, as DS is pretty unheroic, and 4E strives to be heroic and then some.
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« Reply #88 on: <09-22-10/1449:37> »
Joker want 4E Ravenloft! ;D

Also... Joker wouln't mind having 4E Dragonlance. I'm pretty sure Greyhawk and Spelljammer are long dead.

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« Reply #89 on: <09-22-10/1452:14> »
Unless you want to cook an egg on said shining armor. And yourself.

I'm not so much antisocial as antisocial towards my own age group. I have no problem hanging out with people 10-20 years older than me at all, but going to the mall with the people I talked to from high school? Forget it. I have so little to relate to them anymore now that I'm not stuck in a building with them for 7 hours a day. That is, unless I game with them, because that gives me something in common with them.
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