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[SR5] Pixie Lifestyle and Weapons Questions

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« Reply #15 on: <02-09-16/1617:05> »
It's a quirk of the system since your range of stats is rather narrow.

Given that Pixies have a starting Body and Str of 1/2 (Run Faster pg 105) along with their low body mass, directly firing any regular weapon should have increased recoil penalties, if not just send them sailing across the room with the bigger toys, but this is not touched on really.

However, Magic Fingers is a thing and the smart Pixie could well use that to handle any firearm of choice.
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« Reply #16 on: <02-09-16/1620:25> »
I agree with you there, Reaver.  Which is why I've specifically mentioned getting things like pistols built into a rifle-format for them. 

Or, just apply massive penalties due to size differences.  I mean sure, the pixie can pick up that pistol!  Go ahead and pull the trigger!  You're taking a minus...  Shit, A dwarf using a troll's gun is -4, so I guess you'll take a -6 from Human to Pixie?  Don't forget to use both hands, or you're taking another -4!  Maybe you're better off flying grenades above the enemy, tugging out the pin and dropping it on them. 
Would you want to go into a place where the resident had a drum-fed shotgun and can see in the dark?

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« Reply #17 on: <02-09-16/1859:12> »
It's a quirk of the system since your range of stats is rather narrow.

Given that Pixies have a starting Body and Str of 1/2 (Run Faster pg 105) along with their low body mass, directly firing any regular weapon should have increased recoil penalties, if not just send them sailing across the room with the bigger toys, but this is not touched on really.

However, Magic Fingers is a thing and the smart Pixie could well use that to handle any firearm of choice.

The flaw in the magic fingers trick is that spell mimics your natural arm span. Thus again, it wouldn't work for a pixie. That would be like a human casting magic fingers and using a 155mm arty CANNON as if it were a rifle....
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« Reply #18 on: <02-09-16/2018:51> »
Actually, thats pretty good solution to the Pixie Question.
Pixie shoots gun, blasts itself into the next wall behind it and thus swats itself out of existence.

Everybody is happy.

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« Reply #19 on: <02-09-16/2035:32> »
Or if the pixie landed and braced itself, it works without a problem!
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« Reply #20 on: <02-09-16/2045:47> »
My pixie has a rating 1 bow   8)
But yes, this imho critter is more trouble than it is usually worth it.
There is just no prefabricated gear for them, just not worth it financially.
They can maybe in some cases use human gear for different purposes. Tshirt->blanket or whatever.

Guns are a fire and forget case. Forget the pixie.
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« Reply #21 on: <02-09-16/2208:35> »
I could see a pixie firing an extremely modified pistol, but it would probably look like Seras Victoria firing the Harkonnen cannon.

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« Reply #22 on: <02-10-16/0058:57> »
Think about it....

A light pistol is a 9mm.

That is the diameter of the round. Which is 1/50th the of a Pixie's height!

To put that into human perspectives, a 6ft tall (180cm) person = a diameter 3.6cm or 36mm..... almost the same size a grenade. But as a bullet.

As A BULLET, this is a cannon. Very similiar in size to what was mounted of freaking PLANES of WW2!

So no, you are not hand firing it.
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« Reply #23 on: <02-10-16/0111:03> »
Because people can't fire 40mm grenades from multiple types of weapons?  Or larger weapons, if the weapon is built right?  For Super Warhawk-sized payloads it would basically be a mini recoilless rifle, but it is still a possibility.  More-so for the Light Pistol.  Just give them some kind of snub-nose revolver; their version of an MGL-32. 
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« Reply #24 on: <02-10-16/0400:15> »
Maybe you're better off flying grenades above the enemy, tugging out the pin and dropping it on them.
...hmm, cast Improved Invisibility on self while holding grenade, fly over the target (above the blast radius) pull the pin, bomb's away.

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« Reply #25 on: <02-10-16/0417:20> »
Because people can't fire 40mm grenades from multiple types of weapons?  Or larger weapons, if the weapon is built right?  For Super Warhawk-sized payloads it would basically be a mini recoilless rifle, but it is still a possibility.  More-so for the Light Pistol.  Just give them some kind of snub-nose revolver; their version of an MGL-32.

That.

Plus with the nanotechnology and miniaturization processes available at SR lvl technology, i don't see this as being very difficult. Expensive, sure but difficult no. Unresisted recoil should be more difficult for pixies sure, but Again with SR tech, accounting for recoil is not that big an issue, gas venting, gyro Mount...etc.

So in essence i would go with up to and including at least a heavy pistol could be made into a "Pixie rifle/ assault canon" however the ammunition should not be changed in order to preserve DV, so i would limit clip size have all unresisted recoil Count at least double but more likely x3 or x4. So doable, but very very expensive as everything ( gun, clip, recoil sytems...) needs to be custom made.

But honestly this thread and the ones before it about Pixies essentially boils Down to "Some people like pixies, some people are ok with them and some people really really don't like pixies", but thats the beauty of Shadowrun, we can all adjust our own games as we see fit.

And yeah the flying and dumping grenades idea is awesome. :)

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« Reply #26 on: <02-10-16/0456:48> »
ok just a thought.

instead of using firearms. is there any issues with making them a melee character?


and no i do not know the stats or restrictions for Pixies. if some one could direct me to there info in the books, that would be apreciated.

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« Reply #27 on: <02-10-16/0500:39> »
In SR4 you could make a killer pixie melee character, either through the adept route or the mystic adept route. I haven't tried making one in this edition, but I don't see why not, especially with some of the stuff in Hard Targets.

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« Reply #28 on: <02-10-16/0947:52> »
Because people can't fire 40mm grenades from multiple types of weapons?  Or larger weapons, if the weapon is built right?  For Super Warhawk-sized payloads it would basically be a mini recoilless rifle, but it is still a possibility.  More-so for the Light Pistol.  Just give them some kind of snub-nose revolver; their version of an MGL-32.

Care to look up the speeds of a 40mm grenade VS say a .357 or .44 mag? Those are a lot slower then a 9mm....

You want ballistic speeds from a pistol, not "lob some lead".
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« Reply #29 on: <02-10-16/1055:27> »
what Reaver said.