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[SR5] Reverse-engineering and repairing the archetypes

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« Reply #15 on: <08-15-13/1123:27> »
Because Bull has stated that Rating is Device Rating and thus capped at 6 at chargen, forbidding a Rating 8 bow at chargen.

Well, damn.  I'm going to have to go back and change the ones I've been making Missions Legal so I can pass them out at Welcome to the Sixth Worlds. 

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« Reply #16 on: <08-15-13/1233:06> »
Fortunately for bows, they are cheap enough (even a Rating 10 with an internal smartgun system is 2,000¥, 12R Availability, and 20¥, 10 Availabilty, per arrow) that you can generally just save the nuyen you'd otherwise spend on them during chargen, and obtain them within a week.

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« Reply #17 on: <08-16-13/0057:47> »
Whoa...smartgun bow.....my mind, it is blown :)
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« Reply #18 on: <08-18-13/0925:53> »
Wow! Great project! This was one of the first things that rankled me when I got my copy of SR5. I would go to the sample characters as a reference to see if I understood how a rule would work and then notice that the samples were fudged. 

Also, a wealth of experience in these posts! Thanks!!!
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« Reply #19 on: <08-23-13/1147:57> »
Quick note about the archetype Decker: Hack On The Fly is not a valid specialization of the hacking skill, according to the skill listing on page 145. It should be Devices, Files, Hosts, or Personas. I'd pick Hosts and change his Codeslinger quality to Hack on the Fly.

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« Reply #20 on: <08-23-13/1216:32> »
Removed the mini-math in my second post to create character space, fixed the Yamaha Raiden (also the one for the Drone Rigger: one drone said it was using it when it was actually using an Ares Alpha) and added the specialization note for the Decker.

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« Reply #21 on: <09-24-13/1439:14> »
Finding this post helpful while working up some convention characters. Thanks ZeConster!
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« Reply #22 on: <09-24-13/1813:51> »
Note that the Missions-Legal suggestion for the Decker's qualities is no longer legit, so those would need to be replaced.
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« Reply #23 on: <09-24-13/2130:35> »
Just now noticed I never gave a Missions-only replacement for Code of Honor for the Weapons Specialist: Bad Luck didn't seem handy with 5 Edge, and she's too professional for Biased, so I just went with an Allergy (10- or 15-point Allergies seem to be my go-to 'fix' for the archetypes). As for the Decker, I decided to up her Allergy to Moderate and give her Codeblock (Reboot Device): it's an action she'll occasionally want to take, and it doesn't go against her fluff description ("she destroys her enemies' weapons and equipment": rebooting is a more 'friendly' action than "destroying").

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« Reply #24 on: <01-10-14/1353:43> »
Went hunting for this post as a reference, and discovered it buried. Taking another look at the decker and technomancer myself; I'm tweaking some of these for a convention one-shot.
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« Reply #25 on: <03-26-14/1322:58> »
Went digging into this again to create fixed pregens for the upcoming (well, in progress for me) convention season. Discovered that the rigger is actually a lot more broken than she appeared at first blush. In addition to what ZeConster found:
Issues
  • No RCC
  • No Autosofts
  • Illegal mod (hot sim) for commlink (availability 12 for a Transys Avalon +4F for hot-sim mod breaks the Availability cap
  • Ammo count off

Here's my fixes off the top of my head. I'll try to post the actual fixed character tonight.
  • For Karma, rather than ZeConster's suggestion of dropping Edge, I gave her Insomnia (minor)
  • Changed Rover 2072 to GMC Bulldog
  • Dropped automotive repair facility to shop
  • Kept Lifestyle at Middle but dropped 2 pre-paid months, dropped Obscure and Special Work Area options per guidance in FAQ
  • Purchased Vulcan Liege Lord RCC
  • Purchased 1 copy each of Clearsight and EW Autosofts (R6)
  • Purchased Maneuver autosofts for all drones and Bulldog (R6)
  • Purchased Stealth autosofts (R6) for Optic-X2, Fly-Spies and Kanmushi
  • Purchased Targeting Autosofts (R6) for all mounted weapons
  • Standardized drone and vehicle-mounted weapons at 250 rounds of appropriate type including Taser darts (grenades unchanged)
  • Cleaned up small errors (erroneous Yamaha Raiden reference, fixed DVs for weapons, etc.
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« Reply #26 on: <03-26-14/1603:47> »
great catch! The only one I noticed was the Occult Investigator, myself. She has no spells :(

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« Reply #27 on: <03-26-14/1610:02> »
So? There's nothing wrong with that, she simply used her 7 spell-slots for Alchemical Preparations. She has Alchemy and the Conjuring skills, no Spellcasting.
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« Reply #28 on: <03-26-14/1755:29> »
So? There's nothing wrong with that, she simply used her 7 spell-slots for Alchemical Preparations. She has Alchemy and the Conjuring skills, no Spellcasting.

Sorry, I wasn't clear. What I meant was that it wasn't exactly telling what she was. Was she a mage? An aspected magician?

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« Reply #29 on: <03-26-14/1805:34> »
Given the character has skills from all three magic groups, clearly a full Mage.
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