No, Peter, didn't notice. Saw conversation a) regarding IRC, and b) involving Dumpshock, and c) pretty much ignored it - because again, IRC flat-out sucks. It was great when it was new, it was okay five years ago; today, it sucks eggs. I'm specifically talking about a link up top - 'Home, Help, Search, Profile, My Messages, Members, Chat Rooms, Logout'. AFAIK, the baseline chat that places like the HeroGames.com forums are running isn't much to add on ...